Georgia Prisons COLLAPSING: Whistleblower Exposes MURDERS, Riots, Drones & Zero Security

0:00the money that gets made by these illegal markets of coming in these drugs and all coming in these prisons. Dude, man, we got inmates just making millions of millions of dollars per year in these prisons. Hey, welcome back to the show. And joining us today is Tyler Riles, who is a whistleblower and a former correctional officer with the Georgia Department of Corrections. Tyler, it's good to meet you. How are you? It's good to meet you as well. I'm doing good. How about you? I'm doing great overall in light of all the craziness that goes on around the world. You had to reach out to me through a comment that you had left regarding your experiences as a whistleblower and your background in corrections. And I figured, instead of, we're initially going to just have a chat first on the phone. I figured what the heck with mine is we'll just capture it and on video and go from there. But I'd love for you if you could kind of share us what you are blowing the whistle on, per se,

1:05and the events that have gone on and kind of your story. You could start us off with that. OK, well, I started working with the Department. The Georgia Department of Corrections, which is the state agency. It's the largest law enforcement agency in the state of Georgia when I was 18. That's how far state prison. And then I led a 10-year career with them, doing various different things. I was an emergency response team commander at three different prisons, Telfer, Boudosta, and Johnson. I made supervisor very young. I was 20 when I became a sergeant at the first time. And I pretty much stayed a supervisor the whole stand at the end there. I was an instructor. And that's when I became a whistleblower. But the things that I'm blowing the whistle about is just that the prisons here, the state prisons, have gone down down to a point where there's almost nobody there as far as security goes. It's a complete murder house up in there at certain times,

2:05especially if some of these prisons like Telfer, Boudosta, even Washington now, Hays, Johnson, all these prisons vary a lot, like 75% plus percent of our state prisons here, which we have 34, are critically low on staff. So much so, like I say, that there is no security left at some of these prisons. And it started getting this way, really, around 2019 to 2020. But I stayed in it until 2024. So it was 2024 before I finally, I just had enough. I'd already been talking to several people that were in leadership position, because I mean, I was destined for leadership or whatever you want to call it. Like they wanted me to, right before I became a whistleblower, they were offering me some positions at the state offices here in Georgia, at TF College. There's where they have the headquarters for GDC, because I'm highly accredited

3:06at a whatever instructor. I got a lot of extra in the experience. I could teach people pretty much anything about how to be a correction officer. And so that's when I became a whistleblower, was in 2024. And that's the largest issue is that, that it's got down to the point that there's no security left. And now how it got there is a different story. I mean, how it got there with an agency called ACA, the American Correctional Association, is a federal type agency. It's an accreditation thing where state departments can get accredited and join this ACA. So it's an organization. It's not anything that anyone has to do, but it's a thing where, I forget the exact terminology of what it's called, but it's supposed to be like a gold standard for corrections work at the ACA. If you follow these standards, you become gold standard,

4:08you get accredited, you get into the system with ACA and then you get these perks. Okay, we started doing that in 2018. And that is when things started going so far down here because we were already short then in 2018. And when they started changing these policies, it made the workload go up by like 400%. So we're already short. And then they up the workload by 400% especially with the paperwork and all. And then it started getting even shorter. We had situations where officers were getting caught in personal dealing rings and things where they were smuggling contraband into the prisons. So that was happening a lot where we lost a lot of officers and then at these prisons, like I personally didn't see it go down but at Telfer and Valdosta. By the time I got to Johnson and all that, it was already in Shambles. Like I didn't get to see the process of it going down. But at Telfer and at Valdosta, what would happen is once it got to a certain level

5:11because there are supposed to be posts that are never abandoned at these prisons, especially at maximum security prisons, like Valdosta and Telfer and stuff like that. There are supposed to be, there are posts that are never supposed to be abandoned. So once they started getting short, we would have officers that were getting stuck on these posts for 24, 40, 70. I mean, it just varied how many hours these officers were getting stuck on posts. And it doesn't take about a few months of leaving people on posts for two, three days at the time before people are quitting the left and right and then the violence started increasing around the same time because the drugs started increasing. And they just man at Telfer State Prison in 2020 and 2021 at any time I could go around the compound and they would be 50 plus inmates that are high out of their minds on drugs, just laid up against the wall, laying in the floor, puking.

6:11Sometimes they would get paranoid and stab somebody. I mean, it was really wild in there with those drugs because like I say, once they started getting short and then you had these people getting stuck and then it just, and before you know it, you got five officers left and you're supposed to never be below 25. It's mandatory, but then you end up with five. And then it got on down like I myself at Telfer and at Johnson have been the only security person period prison on the entire compound. So at Telfer, that's like 1250 maximum security inmates, 900 or so of the 1250 got knives that they've made out of stuff that they just destroy in the prison because like I say, there's nobody down there to, it shocked me when they started abandoning the bill because because of things like what I'm talking about, like there's nobody down there. They can just tear their bed to pieces and make machetes out of it.

7:12I mean, that's what they're doing. So, so all this is going down. Then the COVID stuff happens and COVID made it even worse because the the states, the way the state handle COVID was like, like most states handled it, it was horrible. And during that time we lost a few more people and then it got to where, like I say, these posts were just abandoned and the prison were just abandoned. It was a few people left like myself that were trying to hold it together and doing what we could with what we had. But looking back now, man, I wouldn't even stayed in there when it got like that. But you got to think that I had already been there before it got like that and I had been trained a lot and I did a lot with the state already, but by the time that things started getting like this. So, you know, I looked at it like I didn't want to leave that career, you know, I was already well established. I know what I was doing. You know, I don't really have any problems like the M.A. population as a as a whole.

8:12I know how to interact with the M.A.s correctly. I know how to interact with my fellow officers. And so I didn't want to leave during that time. So I didn't and but like I say, it just it got to where I'm in. I had seen so many people that had been getting raped for a long period of time before anybody found out. I've seen so many people that passed away that, you know, I would come up and get told like, hey, there's a guy down here in the building and they got stabbed a couple of hours ago. And then you go down to the building and you know, it's too late to try to, you know, there's no saving nobody, you know, after they've been stabbed up two hours ago. You know, you might've got to start to believe and save them. If you get there immediately after it happens like, like we did years ago, but once it got where there's almost nobody left in the prisons, order and all just went downhill to the fact that to a point like I'm saying, we sometimes we would find M.A.s they'll be stiff, you know, rigor mortis would be set in, you know, and then so yeah, that's what I'm blowing a whistle about man.

9:14These prisons are horrible. They let it get to a point with that we have no staff, the DEI and all that that came in ran away all your competent male officers because with the DEI and they didn't even call it DEI with the state, they you know, like those type of plans do, they use subversion and stuff. So they called it community policing. Now that's what the class was named and it came in in 2016. So 2016, he got mandated by a post, which is a piece of officer standards and training council here that all officers had to complete a two hour community policing course every year. And that became part of mandatory training then. And from there, I mean, it went from the community policing thing, which when you get into it, it's diverse, the equity inclusion. I mean, it even says it listed out and everything. It's just that's not the name of the course. It's community policing. And then so we was doing that from there,

10:14it went from that to that next year, 2017, we started giving M.A.s home on treatments that wanted them. So now we got these male M.A.s at these male prisons that are taking hormones. And that was another thing that made it go down at the prison. I mean, you just don't, you wouldn't think that giving M.A.s hormones would make bad things happen at the prison. But it did, man, because these M.A.s, once they got the hormones and once they started growing like the brass and all that, you really had some other guys that was trying to get at them. And then these other guys that was getting at them, sometimes was gang members. So then you would have a gang member that would sneak down there and get with this male M.A. that's taking hormones. And then the other gang members will find out. And next thing you know, if somebody gets stabbed up a cube by their fellow gang members for doing stuff like that. So we had stuff like that going on. Then there were certain buildings when they first started trying to do that that wouldn't even let those M.A.s come inside.

11:16So we had some violence against those M.A.s too. And violence that was involved with them and then relationship violence. Because that was something that I didn't see at till first take prison when I started. There were no openly homosexual men on the compound. It just, the other M.A.s wouldn't allow it. Now there might have been somebody that was under the table or something, but you get what I'm saying. Like there's nobody acting like a female down the building. That just was, that's nothing that I see. I mean, and then when we started doing that, we changed and we had, at till fair anyway. We had two buildings that we could put them in. So we had that going on. We started in 2017, 18. So like I say, it's a thing stacking on top each other that were causing order to just be lost, you know, as a home. I know that was a long spill. This episode is brought to you by Redfin. You're listening to a podcast, which means you're probably multitasking.

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13:18there were fewer and fewer people. I mean, it was just to save money or what was kind of more, could you peel that back a bit for us? Yes, well, even from the time I started, at places like Telfer, it was hard to keep staff because of how violent the place was and how they already didn't really have that good control even at Telfer. So it was hard to get people here and just because of the environment and the M.A. population that we had was very confrontational all the time and yeah, there's a lot of confrontation, especially for a male. So, and that's what you need in there the most is male officers at these male proofs. So that started happening. We lost the males. A big thing with the males too was the lockdown units because when I started, they only had, they were already to the point where it was about 50, 50 male female officers when I started, which that is not what you want inside of a male prison,

14:18especially a maximum security male prison where a lot of these guys are violent. So they was already about 50, 50. From 2014 to 2019, that went from 50, 50 to like 90, 10. We lost all the males. They were working lockdown and these were a lot of the people that were getting left on post a lot. It was because even now, they try not to abandon the lockdown units because I mean, obviously they need things. They need people to go on around giving them stuff through the flat and they like that can just come outside and get what they need when they're in lockdown. So they had a lot to do with it and like I say, just the compilation of things. Once a prison, we had a lot of situations like a Valdosta for example, when they started getting really short, the main thing that caused them to get short was they had a bad warden that came in and we had stuff like this. I never personally worked under one of these wardens that just let this one go completely out of the gun. But when I got to Telfair,

15:20Telfair had had a bad warden about three years before I started there. So I'm hearing stories like hey, we had this warden and it almost destroyed the whole prison because like people would stab each other and then this guy would come up and be trying to get them to calm down and like reward them. So he would like give them popcorn and movies and stuff and say and hey, if y'all stop, you know, if y'all stop stabbing, we'll give you this and we'll give it. So it's pretty much negotiating with them. So every time they would do something bad, they would get rewarded essentially. So that was happening and that made things go down here really bad and like I said, that's what happened about also the reason that I had to go down there. The warden that was there was giving inmates stuff like packouts, which is a packout is just like a, that's what they call them in the prison. But it's just sandwiches in a bag essentially that come from the kitchen. But this guy would go down and they'd be inmates that were being disorderly and he would give them these packouts so they would behave.

16:23And then obviously that starts. I mean, just think about with children. I mean, imagine when your child does something bad, you go give them a snack. You know, it's not going to be very long before they just being bad constantly, never endingly. So when you would have rewards, they would do stuff like this. A lot of your people that were there that did take it seriously. They would be getting trashed on by the inmates because they would come up and I've been here myself where I come up and I tell inmates something. He said, well, the warden didn't tell the warden they said nothing but a blah, you know. And me personally, I would just always say, you know, I don't care what the warden says or don't say, he ain't here right now. You know, do whatever it is. If it's something lawful anyway, you know, but you had that and then that, once people start leaving, like I say, and then these people start getting left on post and that makes even more leave. And then when you're down to a certain level, I say the violence and the drugs and everything just gets exacerbated because there's no security left at the prison. And now, like I said, now it,

17:24I don't know how they're going to fix it other than bringing in a large force all at one time to try to take control of it because you can't just trickle people in now. Because like I say, the environment's so chaotic that you're going to have a hard time finding somebody that'll sign up for that. You know, like it is now, and it shouldn't be like that. That's unconstitutional to have these prisons, you know, a maximum security prison up in there with three females as the only security at the prison. These are male prisons. The inmates can do whatever they want to. There's nobody there anymore to try to stop it at all. Like when they start stabbing each other now, they go until it's over, until they stop. And that's why a lot more people are dying now. I think more, as of February of last year, average down an inmate has died every day since 2020. And I think that's pretty much continued. So we pretty much been losing the inmate every day since 2020 in the state of Georgia.

18:25It's over, it's got to be over 1600 now since, since 2020. And we've lost several officers. I think I know four or so, the while I was in, am I still in it? And then we lost a kitchen store just that got shot at a maximum security prison with a firearm. That this inmate is just talking around on the compound. Because like I say, there's nobody there. And then they just getting, now these drones are a big problem. Because they just fly any in the contraband on the drones. And the inmates already have the cell phones. So they can coordinate whatever, hey, you need to come at this time. When they're coming, they might do an incident on the other side of the compound to distract what two officers are there. And then those officers go down there. And then they, these drones are flying in 20, 30 pound packages at the time now. Well, the drugs, weapons, cell phone, whatever, you know, whatever they want to get in. Wow, OK, so I, I'm, I'm surprised. I mean, I figured that in some capacities,

19:28prisoners had phones. I'm not intimately familiar with the prison system in terms of the structure and what you can or what you will or won't be afforded. But I mean, that is, you know, alarming that these people have a means by which to communicate with people outside. And they're having drones to deliver goods to them, so to speak. What are perhaps some other things that you've encountered that are, or that that were very alarming or, you know, situations that would perhaps come as a surprise to people. Man, I've seen inmates doing count sheets. And for somebody that doesn't know what a prison is, that might not sound too alarming. But what that means is the inmates are in charge of keeping up the other with the other inmates in some of these instances. No counts. I mean, I've seen where there hasn't worse, by law, you're not supposed to let more than a five-hour period go without counting every single of those prisons.

20:28But there are times where days go by, nobody's counted. That's how we've had escapes where the inmates gone for over a day before we may even, you know, notice that he's gone. At Johnson State Prison, during the time that I was there, there could have been an inmates escape. And he might have been gone two, three weeks before anybody would have known. If they were to chose to do that. The only thing that's stopping them now from doing from escaping in mass is that they're making so much money, like, say, by smuggling the drugs in. As far as like a specific scenario, man, I've been in over a dozen rides. I've been stabbed myself. You know, I've been a lot of things, man. It's like probably 400 incidents I've been in over that 10 years. But it doesn't have to be that way, because there's supposed to be security there. Once it gets worse, there's no security there. I mean, it's anything you think of. I mean, I've seen dudes get jumped on and just stomped the death, you know, with boots.

21:29But that's the thing that they did finally do something about. After 30 years of having inmates get stomped the death with the composite two boots that we issue them, they finally did take the boots from in like 2020. After several inmates in a row, they got stomped the death. They did take the boots from them. So now they don't have the boots anymore. They have the crocs and the tennis shoes, which, I mean, you wouldn't think that that'll make a big difference, but it does. Like, you don't want guys in there having boots that they can just stomp somebody to death with, not even have to have a weapon. But now they all got weapons. I'll tell you this, at Tell First Aid Prison, I've done shakedowns in some of those dormitories where I found over 100 shanks in a 80-man dorm. So there's over a knife, a weapon for every inmate that's in there. And these inmates that are at places like Tell First Aid, they're not, you know, we got, just at Tell First Aid,

22:30any time we might have 200 lifeers there that are never getting out. Because like I said, this is a, this is a, what's supposed to be a close security management prison. So these inmates are supposed to be closely supervised. They're never supposed to not to go unsupervised by an officer because they've already done things to get classified that they need close security on. So when that gets down to nothing, I mean, I've seen, I came in and found us that's tied up under their bed. They're hard tied in the building. The inmates got some stuff under the bed, you know, you get in there and save them. They tell you, they're crying and stuff, telling you thank you and that they've been in there for four days, they've been tying them up every time the officer comes in, they let them loose. And then they, when the officer leaves back out, they jump on time back up and put them under the bed. So I mean, I've seen stuff like that, the big gang wars. That's another thing because the gang situation got so far out of hand. And I know it's like that in California as well

23:32with the always prison system. Because I try to keep up with the prison system, especially now since I've been being a whistleblower, but man, the gang population is so high that like at Telfair, there are several dorms that there's nothing but gang members in the rooms. So when I was the gang coordinator at Telfair in 2017, usually there will be around 700 gang members active at Telfair at any given time. So these guys are all active gang members. They're all armed and there's no security there. So you can imagine how that goes. Somebody, somebody crosses the wrong guy and then knives come out and the next thing you know, you know, 200 people are going to war up in the prison with shanks stabbing each other all into dormitory. So so that happens and it gets as it as anyone could probably

24:33expect, that's real hectic when you have large populations of guys declare war on each other like that. Like it really is war in there sometimes. You know, I've been into myself where it's going down there everywhere you look is somebody against stab, you know. You look this way on the sidewalk is somebody against stab. You look up here is somebody against stab. All sorts of call on the radio is this building, that building, this building, that building, there but just stabbing everywhere. So that's been going on for years. That was going on even before even when I started with, you know, the only difference was when they was start stabbing, you know, it would be 35 or 40 of us rolling up in there within 30 seconds to amend or so and so it didn't. You know, it really didn't never get the chance to go big now. But at Washington State Prison, I'll give you a recent example for anybody that's watching or if anybody sees this later or whatever, at Washington State Prison, about two months ago, they had a riot.

25:34They had a riot where the inmates, like I'm saying, it's a war going on between gang factions at the prison. And there they had so few officers at the prison that all the gates were unlocked. So when it happened in this building, the inmates flooded out of the building and just took over the whole compound. They went up in visitation man. So visitations going, they only have one female officer up in there offering security for all these visitors that are busy. So these are civilians that are in the visitation room. These inmates attacked the one officer that's down there in the building where they started the riot. They attacked that officer, take their keys and then they made it all the way into the visitation room with the visitors. And the only reason that nothing bad happens to enough visitors is because they weren't trying to get the visitors. They were trying to get the inmates that were in there because of the gang war that was happening. So that happened a couple months ago. They've been been some reports about it as far as like news channels picking it up and stuff.

26:36But I mean, they're kind of brief with it. Oh, there was a riot, you know, four people died. I think four inmates did lose their life during that riot a few months ago. But like I say, we're in the hundreds every year now. Whereas in 2014, just this will kind of help put it into perspective. In 2014, we had, when I, the year I started, I think we had five murders at statewide all year. Okay, last year, we had like 72. Okay, so however many hundreds of percent that is, that's how much the violence has won up inside the Georgia Department of Corrections. But yeah, man, and the only have I seen all these things happen, I've seen people directly go against things that could help us, you know, like I'm saying, like that with the warden, a warden that comes up when I'm trying to instill discipline on a prison compound and comes up and under mines,

27:36everything that what I just done and gives this guy a reward for for acting up. Like I say, that gives them unlimited ammunition to use against the staff members that are trying to maintain order. And after a certain point, usually people just, either they leave or even if they don't leave, they just kind of give up and they just say, okay, that's the way he wants it, let them do it. And that's not the kind of situation you want to be in inside of a prison, trust me, because they take it, they're going to, whatever you let them do, they're going to do. Light was there now, if you let them just leave them in the building, they'll tear the whole thing up and make machetes and stuff down there. So we got that happening, for sure. Disney Plus wants to know, are you ready? For Marvel Studios Thunderbolts, The New Avengers, now streaming on Disney Plus. Let's do this. One of the best Marvel movies of all time is now streaming on Disney Plus. Hey, you weren't listening to me. I said Thunderbolts, The New Avengers, is now streaming on Disney Plus.

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29:41this is, I presume, a nationwide. Nationwide, there are a lot of states that are better than Georgia. From what I understand, the top three that are really bad are pretty much Georgia, Texas, and California. But Georgia, I don't see how it could be. I don't think it's in. Georgia has to be one of the worst because, like I say, we're down now, we're there. There are no men sometimes at these prisons, period, as far as security. There are just some females. And that is a crime in and of itself to even put females in a position like that. But that's part of all this craziness. And I'll say another thing that is a common theme amongst this is the fact. And it all goes back into this D.I. stuff. Nobody wants to do common sense things, okay? Why are we, why are we having these? Now, in Georgia, we didn't really have that much race rise except with the Hispanics. So the Hispanics, it would be race rise constantly.

30:43I mean, I've seen several of myself. And that doesn't turn out good. Like, there are a lot of people that get hurt doing those things. So why do we force, why do we force the Hispanics and the black guys and the white guys and all these games, all in the same spot? Why aren't they segregated? This is prison. So maintain a security of the prisons should come top priority. But what you find is, that's not what they put as their top priority. It's all these other things of trying to make stuff look good on paper and for them to be able to say stuff later. Like, oh, yeah, we so diverse. And then we so unsegregated. So yeah, we unsegregated. Everybody's dying. Everybody's at war in here. You know, so that's a thing. Like, I don't know how hard it would be to get that changed. But from my research into prison, because I've did a lot more research now than since I've been out of the system. And I'm trying to look at this thing from a, from a bird's eye view and say, what, what's go, how did it get like this?

31:44And that's a very common thing that comes up hearing from M.H. testimonies and from staff members testimonies is that when they start a segregated force, segregated force desegregating these prisons, violence went up a lot. And that's a pretty simple, easy fix. You know, I, I'm a proponent of segregating them. Oh, I'm talking about segregating the old ones from the young ones, segregating the, this game from that game, segregating the races, especially if they're having a conflict with one another. Why not? We need to be, and that's another thing too, like working these guys, because the way they got to sit up now with the, so few staff, like when people think of prison, they think that it's still like it was in the old days. And they're thinking that these guys are out working and that they're doing details and all that, but now it's not happening that much. They're just essentially leaving these guys and some of these guys now are staying, now that it's got short, are staying inside the building for years at the time,

32:47years in the same building, barely even getting any sun sign. Some of these black guys turned almost white because they hadn't got sun in years sometimes. Now, when they're in the buildings like that, if they don't get sun and all that, then that's their decision when they're in those buildings. But in the lockdown, and this is another thing that has caused the department, as a whole, the State Department, to fall, I can say, fall prey, but get found guilty of violations and civil cases in these court cases, because in the lockdown units, that's different. They need us to come and escort them onto a yard and all this in order for them to get outside of time. And that's not happening anymore. So in the lockdown units, they really are. They don't have a choice. I mean, they just in the sale until somebody comes and like I'm saying, when you don't have any officers, there's not anybody around very often.

33:49So, I mean, and they might get showers, nothing. In my personal experience, at the lockdown units that I was running, even when it got real short, I would make sure these guys got showers. Even if I had to work 15 hours or something, just to make sure that they would get showers, but the yard stuff, yeah, that went down you, even with somebody that's highly motivated like me, I mean, they're just wanting enough, you didn't have the resources to do it. I mean, they want enough time in the day to take them and do all these different things when you're, when you're supposed to have 12 people down there and you got two, you know, just, you don't work, you know, so you prioritize, like so that, you're taking them a shower, but, but no yard. And that's bad to be having to choose between one or the other two for guys, but, but yeah, so it's multifaceted. Like there, there are, there are a lot of things that that need to be looked at seriously and honestly and so that we can try to fix this issue. But what I found is that nobody's trying

34:50to do anything like that. They're not. So, I don't know why they wouldn't, I don't know why you would want prisons to be like this unless you just want everything to collapse, you know, but that's how it is. These prisons, a lot of these prisons like Telfare right now, Smith is like that, Ware, Pays, Hancock. I mean, these are major, the prisons I just listed on, that's seven, eight thousand inmates right there. They can get out at any time they want. They could take the whole prison right now and it wouldn't, it wouldn't take nothing but two or three highly motivated guys. They could take over everything because that is, that is really how low the security is at some of these places. Now, there are a few that have came back up, like from my understanding, the diagnostic main hub prison that's in Jackson, Georgia around middle Georgia. Now, it's kind of came up like they have fairly decent staff in there now.

35:51But, but all these other prison man, they're in a bad, bad shape man. Like I said, they're, you know, at Baldausta on Christmas Eve. So it was Christmas Eve of last year. They found a guy that had been murdered by his roommate. So this is in the lockdown unit. And in the lockdown unit, they're supposed to be your, an officer is supposed to check the inmates every 30 minutes. So there's never supposed to go 30, there's never supposed to be 35 minutes. In between, you get checked on in lockdown. But this guy was strangled by his roommate and wasn't found for over two days. So his face had already started decaying and everything, by the time the officers even noticed that this guy was dead. So that just kind of gives you an idea of just how bad the security is. I mean, you're talking about 96 or so checks that was supposed to happen or say, however many of that is doing the math out that that didn't happen. So the civilians here in Georgia are at risk

36:55because the inmates can just get out anytime they want to. And that would be obviously a horrible situation. The inmates inside are at risk. Everyone that are dying the most, they're dying in the hundreds. The officers and staff, whatever few of them are left in there, they're at super risk. So it's just a bad situation for everybody involved, man. And it's a situation that is easily solvable. When I had, when I blew the whistle, I got the opportunity to have a Zoom meeting with the assistant commissioner. Most people don't get to do this when something comes up and they're getting threatened to be fired like I was. They don't get the chance to speak to the assistant commissioner. But being as I knew what I was talking about and I come from the background that I do. Like they can't go back in time and say that I haven't done all these things that I have done over the years. And so they, when I wouldn't resign, they try to just get me to resign.

37:57They come up, they pretty much gave me three odds. They was like, hey, man, if you'll just say you're vinting and take it back, then we can just sweep this under and we can just squash it. But if you don't do that, then you either resign or you get terminated right now, you know? And I'm looking at this and, you know, I was prepared for that anyway when I wrote this statement. Yeah, the only reason, okay, the only reason that I was able to admit was able to meet with the commissioner is because I refused to quit. I told him, matter of fact, I told him exactly, do your paperwork. When they told me that, I said, do the paperwork. They told me, oh, you're gonna get fired, you're not gonna resign? No, I'm not gonna resign. Do your thing. You know, and then they did the paperwork and sent it up. And then I guess when the lady read the paperwork and read that letter that I wrote, that's when they called me from up in Forsyth. Say, oh, are these things really going on? Oh, we don't, you don't need to be fired. You need to talk to the commissioner. And I guess they already set up

38:59what they were gonna have, what they were gonna tell me to do. But I had the meeting, I got it recorded. I've already published it on YouTube and everything. Like, I don't have it on the video, and I just recorded the audio of the Zoom call where me and this fellow had this conversation. We had like a 20 minute conversation. He lied to me several times. He told me that the, because I was bringing this up about the males and that we have to get, we can't leave this prison without male security at these male prison. And he was saying, oh, we can, because that's when he was telling me, like, oh, what do you expect us to do? And I said, back in 2020, I was thinking, and this is what we were all thinking. All of us that were down there in these situations, we're thinking, hey, man, we're holding it down now. And any day now, they're gonna bring the National Guard in. They're gonna bring somebody in to come and help us in here. But it never happened. And so I'm telling him that, that that's what I thought would have been done years ago.

39:59And he was saying, oh, the National Guard is mostly female anyway. And then he was saying that it takes too long to train him. And he just wanted to give him off excuses of why they haven't done any of this. And I'm sitting there at the same time. I'm saying, oh, well, that's bad. Of course, I'm gonna look up this information right after we get off the phone. And National Guard is 80% male. So why are you, why aren't you even saying that? That it's mostly females and we can't really use them. And he was saying that anyway, toward the end of that conversation, he gave the number. He said, if you know anywhere, we can get about 3000 men that that's what that's what needs to happen. And that is what needs to happen. That's about the right number. We need about 3000 able body men. And all this could be solved in a week. I mean, give the right person command of those 3000, put them all, separate them out, put 30 or 40 or whatever at each at each person. And you could take control. And from there, we could get people in and train them

41:00and get the staff level back up. And then you could let those, those military servicemen or whatever go. But that was the point, the main point that I was bringing up, like we have to do something because it's so crazy in here now that, like I say, I mean, when we bring people in, when they started getting like this, it was rare that they would last two or three weeks they'd been in quid. Because they would see somebody get killed or they would see some of this staff and stuff like I'm talking about, or they would all these drugs. And that's, man, like if you've never seen large numbers of people that are high on drugs all at one time, like it's not what you want anywhere. I'm sure it's bad on the street, but it's definitely not what you want up in a place where nobody can get away from each other. Like they're locked in these buildings and they ain't their half of them are high at any given time. And the way that the drugs got was, they started calling them strips and they were coming in so much, man, it was unbelievable.

42:01Because they were bringing the drugs in on strips of paper. They were soaking it, soaking whatever their substance was and the substance wouldn't come up on drug tests that we had. That we would have these guys, like me personally, I'd be going around, and I would see this guy doing like this on the wall. And then I would take this guy up and drug testing. Nothing. It was synthetic stuff that they were spraying on the stuff that wrote spray from out of high. It was all kind of different. All the wall ingredients that they were spraying on this paper and then these inmates were down there smoking the paper and it's messing them up. And you know, a big time. All that's going down, all at the same time. And it caused, it caused no staff to want to stay there and you can't even blame them. They can't blame them. Even highly motivated people like myself, they're young and that are not really over worried

43:04about danger or anything like that. You still don't want to be in it because you're seeing all this blood shit all the time and there's nothing. There's nothing you can really do about it. So yeah. Well, you know, I'm not surprised given what you've shared, that has me thinking that there's perhaps some hidden actor actors at hand that Santa benefit from this. I mean, you know, so somebody is, you know, why would you, why would you have something so short, staffed on a matter of importance as inmates goes? I presume this receives little to no coverage over where you're at. Little to nothing, man. And I'm getting censored at stuff too. So all my, the stuff that I try to do, I mean, I'm censored like crap on X when they, I don't know, do you mess around very much on Twitter on X?

44:08I'm on there pretty actively. I don't post a whole lot. Sometimes I upload the interviews on there, but I'm pretty active on there, yeah. Man, that one of the accounts found out how you can ask Grog for your semantic contextual scoring where they pretty much have you on a, where they monitor you for like risk or stuff, like anti-semitism as they call it and all this other. And I put them on list and got it all, man, that's all on there. I'm 78% de-boosted on there just because I speak about the things that I speak about. And nothing that I speak about is hate for at any point. You know, I just, look, when you got serious problems that's going on, they're gonna be some things coming out that people don't want other people to know about. And evidently, the people that are in charge of X, at least X anyway. But on Facebook, I noticed the same thing. I just, I don't have the, I don't have the list of exactly what they're knocking me for like the like they do on Facebook.

45:08I mean, that like they do on Twitter, but I guarantee they're downplaying it because I'm, when I do get stuff that starts spreading, it gets a lot of likes and things like that when I'm talking, a lot of times my stuff just gets hid where nobody even sees it. I mean, so you got that that are going, that's going on and that's going on with a lot of people, man. Pretty much anybody that's that's going against the grain in any type of way is getting, is getting censored. So what does that tell you? That tells you that we don't have people, the people that are doing that do not have Americans anyway, best interest in mine. Because especially about this prison stuff, like I say, a lot of people don't care. And that's what's been told to me by several people that are, that have big platforms like, oh, that nobody cares about the prison. So we don't want to make content about the prison because nobody cares. And that's not true, man.

46:09If people, when people find out things like what I've been talking about over these last 30 minutes or whatever, you might not, there, there may be something that you care about more, like like the Epstein stuff. I mean, that's children. So order of priority, locking up the Epstein pedophiles is probably more important than fixing the prison. Okay, because you're looking at, we have to prioritize, right? You know, so crimes against children, probably something needs attention before the prisons do. But the prisons at least in Georgia, they should be pretty high up on the list. Like, we need something done quickly about this because lies are getting lost. Lies are being lost weekly, you know, at a bare minimum. If not, like I say, when you average it out, it's pretty much a life of day. And that's just for the state of Georgia. So these things need a dressing. I'm going to have to find out some kind of way to break through on this thing, to be able to speak with people. And that's why I thank you. And I'm glad that you reached back out to me, man, because most of the time when I put comments like that,

47:11like I did on your YouTube, you know, I don't get no response. You know, and I'm not trashing on about it. I mean, look, there's a lot of people that get a lot of comments. Maybe they don't have time to, I just get hit in the bottom of the pile. So, but I thank you for letting me come on, hopefully, we can get connected with some people or get some chance to do some interviews and get this out. I mean, I have a lot that I can tell and get a testimony about. I like doing stuff in person. Well, I don't mind doing stuff like this, but obviously it is more interactive when you can sit across from somebody and talk to them and feel the atmosphere. And it's not any kind of delay or anything on the phones, but I appreciate you for letting me come on here and talk to you. And I will see where it goes from here. Well, I appreciate you. You're reaching out, Tyler. And I think it's important to, you know, get your message out there.

48:12I mean, clearly it sounds like the powers that be are not fond of it. I'll also add that I've had that in my own experiences as far as my channel, my platform goes. I don't get nearly the views I used to get, say, three or four months ago, so because I've covered certain topics. And I'll also say that if you are getting censored, then you're on to something. And a lot of the people that these big names and alternative media are in my estimation compromised or they conveniently omit certain things. And that's why they're able to have the audiences that they have. It is a game that a lot of people are not aware of most, most people. And so I would say so, like for myself, for example, the fact that I've, in my opinion, have been shadow band to some extent or what have you. That tells me that I'm touching topics that are onto it. Maybe imperfect, but there's something there. So I appreciate you doing what you do. Is there anything else that you'd like to share, Tyler?

49:14I'm on this point that we're saying, because everybody pretty much has figured out what the things that they're hitting us for. And when I was coming up, man, I just listened to everything that was in public school to tell you the truth. Like I didn't look deeper into wars or politicians or any of that, man. I went through school and I went to work and I did my thing. Since that, since coming to the realization that these prisons are being ran in the ground so bad that it's death and destruction all the time. And I do know the reason. One of the main reasons why they're doing it is because of the money that gets made by these illegal markets of coming in these drugs and all coming in these prisons. Dude, man, we got inmates just making millions of dollars per year in these prisons, off of our prisons. So there are other people that are getting cuts from that, probably, man, I don't know 100%.

50:15But I can tell you, people act shady. There are a lot of people that act shady and I don't, that's not even nothing that is shocking from Georgia Department of Craziness. I mean, you can just look at the number of employees that have been arrested for corruption and that's in the hundreds and hundreds just over the 10-year period that I was in. So corruption is a problem. And at high levels, a corruption might be just making sure that the environment is bad enough where it stays short so that drones can keep coming in the prison every day, you know. So you got that. And with the thing like earlier, I was saying that they had me marked as anti-Semitic or whatever on X. Me personally, the people that I've came in contact with that things were going on around them that made me uncomfortable. They were mostly, they had square and compass rings on

51:16or they had square and compass on their door at the prison or whatever. So, you know, are those two things connected? You know, the things that are going on with Israel and the things with free masonry and these other organizations and it's not even just pre-masonry, man. We got fraternities that are in here from colleges and obviously when you have people that are sworn to do an oath to fulfill an oath inside of a prison or inside of anywhere and but they're also sworn secretly to another oath that supersedes that oath. Like if you tell me, if I swear an oath that I'm gonna fulfill the duties of a correctional officer or else I'm gonna get charged with violation of oath of office and I might have to do a year in prison. Then, and then I also take another oath that says, if I ever don't do this other thing that I'm gonna get cut in half and then my intestines are gonna get burned

52:18and I'm gonna be removed from all books and nobody's ever gonna remember my name. If those are your two oaths, you know, I don't think it takes a lot of sense to figure out which one you're gonna prioritize, you know. So, we have a lot of that going on in the department and some of these people that have the square encompasses, they're some of the, they're good workers and I've never seen anything go on sideways around. But some of the others, there was a lot of sideways stuff going on around and that's just one of these, man. So, the England, I also, because I know we're getting, we've got to be like 45 minutes or so, but I know in England that they came, it is not for the entire United Kingdom, but it's for one of the police forces over there where now they're forcing people to declare whether they're a Freemason or not before they come onto the police force.

53:19I think that would, obviously, because I say when you're getting into stuff where oaths are involved, then taking oaths of office and fulfilling duties for the public sector, that should be something that at least people know. Like, even if you're not gonna bar them from being in there, you should at least know who they are because you probably don't want to put five of them together on a shift, you know what I mean? Like I say, especially if they're sworn to keep each other's secrets and stuff. You know, what if your secret is that you're smuggling 10 pounds of dope into the prison every week? You know, what if that's the secret that you're keeping, because you need people to help when you're doing things like this? And I'm not saying that people are necessarily doing that. I don't have any proof of that myself, but I got a lot of pertinent testimony to give and it's gonna take more than an hour to give it, but I'm down for it, man, I'm gonna talk

54:20and say what I think I should say, period, and whatever, if somebody wants a shadow band me or do whatever they're gonna do, it don't matter, they can come talk to me or we can do whatever, you know. I'm not, I'm a man before I mean anything, brother. So, I'm, all this stuff threatening me and oh, you, you could better quit or we're gonna do this and you better not talk about this or this is gonna happen all this, you ain't gonna have no money. I don't care about money. I literally will go make a little cabin beside a creek somewhere and eat fish, make a fish trap and I'll be good, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not out here trying to become rich anyway. I don't care about money or really don't, I mean, I like eat, I'm not sick. That's not what I put at the top, man. Like, that's not something that I'm out for. If I get a lot of money, I guess I'll try to do something with it, but it's not my goal here. And like I say, that's why I really don't care about these shadow bands and these other things, law fair and all this, like, I don't care, man.

55:24I don't think it's time for all that. I think it's about that time. I think it's time to pick sides, you know what I mean? I'm not on the side of all this stuff. I'm not on the side of leaving these prisons like this. I'm not on the side of leaving these compromised people in charge. I'm not on the side of forcing people that are at war with each other to mix up together, whether that be anywhere, you know. I'm not for any of that. So I just want to try to help in this thing, man. I woke up a couple of years ago really during COVID and looked around and said, man, dude, we don't let this thing get so bad right under our noses. And it's just because we weren't told, but look at who we had telling us our information. Like you were saying before, you got these people that have agendas and stuff that have been given us our information. So we found ourselves now, or at least here in Georgia. I don't know how it is in California,

56:25but I find myself now in a place where there are some serious things I need talking about. And I'm here for, man, I'm gonna talk about as much as I can, honestly, and if anything I say is wrong, then hopefully somebody can explain to me how I'm wrong and maybe I'll come to a different conclusion. I mean, I'm not some kind of sage or nothing. I don't have all the answers, but I have my testimony in the 10 years that I spent inside the prisons. Since then, I've learned a lot more. And I'm assuming you've probably been kind of on the same journey. So I'm just trying to do what's right, man. Life is full of choices, but the choice between getting crispy chicken nuggets or a crunch wrap slider isn't one you'll have to make. The new crispy chicken crunch wrap slider at Taco Bell. All white meat chicken nuggets, breaded in tortilla chips, wrapped up sauce and all, inside a slider-sized crunch wrap. Choose from creamy chipotle or jalapeno honey mustard. Well, there we go. Life is still full of choices. The new crispy chicken crunch wrap slider,

57:25a brand new classic, only at Taco Bell. And participating in those Taco Bell locations for limited time and loss applies last. This episode is brought to you by Colaguard. Do you know what's really scary? Not screening for colon cancer when you turn 45. The Colaguard test is non-invasive, requires no special prep or time off work and shifts right to your door. In just three simple steps, Colaguard takes the scare out of colon cancer screening. If you're 45 or older and at average risk, ask your healthcare provider about the Colaguard test. Colaguard is available by prescription only. Learn more or request a prescription today at colaguard.com slash screen. Well, I'm glad you touched on the secret society element of it. And I feel like that has become more pronounced to the general public in light of the Epstein saga going on. All I add that I have heard from people over the years that they have infiltrated pretty much all levels of society pretty much. Ted Gunner said, I don't know if you're familiar with him,

58:26but he's a former FBI, very high up with the FBI. He passed a handful of years ago, but he talked about it. He talked about how there are many elements of society that the prison system, law, politics, et cetera. So yeah, most people are totally clueless and someone who's not been familiarized with this will think it's very out there. But yeah, I have respect for anyone who is whistleblower and who's speaking their truth and is trying to get a message out there. So I'm glad to be part of your journey on that. Tyler, and how can people learn more about you as well as getting touch if they want to? I reckon they could follow me on Twitter or X at Tyler Riles X. So it's just my name and a capital X there at the end. You can follow me on YouTube. I'm probably gonna change the name of the YouTube, but for right now it's Chase Ryle.

59:28There's my middle name, C-H-A-S-E, Ryle, without the S-R-Y-A-L at Gmail or no. Chase Ryle at Gmail is the email and then Chase Ryle Dash C7P is the YouTube channel. I have a few YouTube videos up there. The longest videos I have are videos that I've done on other people's channel, kind of like what we're doing now. And I have to figure out, is there a way that I can put a link for a different video on my own YouTube page? Well, I'll figure that out. I'll go in with... Yeah, yeah, I can send you this recording here and you can upload it to your audience, et cetera. Yeah, you can repurpose it. So yeah, I'm glad we were able to connect. I appreciate you reaching out. And yeah, it's very thought provoking. I'm candidly, I'm not surprised. I do think that there are forces with in our own government that have an agenda and that agenda is to bring about this kind of control

1:00:31of demolition, like building seven. And that is more or less kind of what's going on. And I think people need to be more aware of it. So I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and we'll be in touch, Tyler. Yes, sir, thank you. Thanks for tuning in. And if you enjoyed the show, I encourage you to like, share and follow if you found value in it. I also have a new show called Markets with Christian White, which is exclusively focused on the financial markets. If that is something of interest to you, encourage you to check that out. And I always look forward to hearing your feedback and thoughts. And until next time, take care and be well.