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In Episode 3, “Feeling Lucky? or Down on Your Luck?” we really get into it. Breaking down who’s winning, who’s losing, and who needs to be held accountable 👀 From giving out A+’s to calling out real issues affecting the LGBTQ+ community, nothing is off limits in this class.
We dive into everything from pop culture moments and industry wins to serious conversations around trans rights, representation, and the way queer culture continues to be used without respect. Detention Talk gets especially real as we unpack allyship, identity, relationships, and the messy situations people don’t always want to talk about... but we do!
And of course, we wrap it all up with our Yearbook Awards, celebrating the ones making noise, moving culture forward, and doing it their way. Whether you’re feeling lucky or a little down on your luck… this episode is a reminder that class is always in session... and we’re grading everything! 🎓🔥
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You really think you're that girl, like do you really think you'd be popping off like I feel like even though you're from the South What? And you know like you think you got the biggest energy you got the biggest body. It's really giving a small Ooh, what's that what? Oh, what's that what? What's that what? That's what I'm here to do my big one. What are you doing? Just the all that white dick that I have tonight. I pronounced like he and babes. No, I should never join this podcast with, ooh. He's like, I'm not going to follow you. Right, right, exactly. Oh, you're shit. Right, exactly. All right, everyone. Welcome to the extra curricular where I still have a stay stack with a realty. And all right, bring it on. You know what's going on. We got some clovers in the building, no Gabrielle Union. Okay, because I'm feeling very much brown skinned girl, skin just like the pure. Hello, that's right. And all right, you know what's me, Michael? You know, aka, the mejor option, but all y'all know, Salis.
Oh, she brought me with the day. She brought me with the day. She's been a sickle. Oh, um, like that. It was up. Yeah, Shaboy Maya. You ready? No, I don't really need the introduction. And today we keep it in the family today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all right, that is class. Let's get started. What's going on? What's going on? How are we? Who are we? I am feeling good. We have been booked in busy. I'm coming off the birthday high. Yes, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. Girlies were outside for real for real. And we go get to that later. But you know, I'm just feeling big. Pieces energy, big water, big ice. I'm feeling good. You know, I'm really not feeling the New York weather. I feel like last week was super hot. Now this week, I feel like I need to go get my winter coat. Okay, it's not really making sense to me, but I'm feeling good. Money's up. You know, happiness is up. Things like that. How about you, Amaya? Yeah, overall, I'm feeling honestly like a lucky charm. I feel like I'm ever kind of at the end of the rainbow right now. I'm feeling blessed on all seriousness.
Like I got a lot on my plate, but I couldn't act for more. Like honestly, just really ready to get into some things today and really address what we got to address. Yeah, let's see. But I'll further do. We're going to get into our first segment, which is who's on campus. Those of you guys don't know who's on campus. Basically, we're bringing things to the table, addressing things who we want to uplift or what's going on in the world right now, that we want to grade A to F. And essentially, we got some things to say. So, I know that's right. Okay. I'm going to start first. I'm going to bring you to league. Um, Ms. J. and Tyra Brink's campus. So Tyra Brink's just dropped a, you know, a little docu minery about what was going on on America's next top model behind the scenes, whether that's with the models or the judges. Um, I'm bringing both of them only because I feel like what happened with Ms. J going into the hospital for what they went through. Yeah. Um, he essentially said that Tyra wasn't there for him in a way
where a friend should be. And yes, we want some cloud around a TV show so I can get more people to watch it and understand what's going on. But I think as a friend, meet personally, I think as a friend, I wouldn't handle it in such a spot like that. So I'm going to give them a C plus because yes, I do love America's next top model. I love anything modeling or anything fashion in that sense. And she pushed to envelope no shade. Yeah. But, um, you know, you're not reaching out in like the way that I just feel like it could have been a little bit better. I don't know. What do you out there? Oh, I mean, because I was dying laughing when when they were like Ms. J, right? I'm like, basically, you know why they ain't called. I was like, well, that's the I need. I mean, JV saying a lot of things that I was saying of. Yes. It's all in the face, all in the face. I feel like that is, it seems like she holds all her friends like that because even with, um, J Alexander, the way it happened when J didn't want to no longer do, I mean, the next top model, um,
you know, she just left that email as I'm disappointed and, you know, kept it pushing and they didn't really speak for no more. So it seems like she's a distant, um, like a, I don't know what they call that. Like a distant relative or something. Okay. Getting associate. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's my peer. She tries to distance herself away from people when she knows she's done wrong. Mm-hmm. Cause I feel like it was J Alexander had every right to want to step away, especially. Yeah. All that racism that was meant to play, you know, and she didn't really respect that. It's like, come on. I know you need somebody to support you in that time, but what about the support that your friend needs too? So, okay. And I think it also speaks to the bigger picture about like her running a business, right? They were popping out, like the first two cycles were like back in the back. So she was focusing on the coin in the back. It's not the crew that she was, you know, very like putting into the space. Let alone the contestants. Oh, and there was a contestant that we still see to this day. Yes. Like, when he heard low, or now the Marco, he was one of the first winners
that were of like, he couldn't hear. Like, yes, and there's just a lot. I don't know, but I don't know. That sure was too much though. Yeah. Like, looking back on it, yes, I was looking for the T and the antics, but then when you see like, how there was no care for the contestants through the antics, it's like, okay, now. Ira is giving money, huh? Give it up. I'm giving. And like, you messing up your friendships and people that help you build this platform to even get like 20 something plus cycles. You just dashing them away. But yeah, you don't care. What about you, am I who you bring in? On campus first, it's going to have to be them magazine. So that is online. If you see them on Instagram, they essentially like post all like the queer news or different things that's going on in society. And recently they just did a YouTube with the mask lesbians. It's the mask lesbians agree to disagree. And I'm actually going to give them a A plus because I really think that it was a good presentation. Yeah. Number one, you fill me like, they had people from all races, you fill me so they had an Asian mask, a white mask,
a different black everybody was there to show up and say, you know, what they agreed to disagree on. And like, there was even like a prompt that said, as like a mask lesbians, I could get as feminine as my feminine counterpart. Mm-hmm. And the only one that disagreed with that was the oldest one. She I think she was like 71 and she's a stud. And she was like, you know, well, I'm masculine of center. You know, I think I'm different from my femme counterpart, even though I don't identify as a man, I don't feel like I'm a man, but in the day, this is what I'm standing on. And then like, you know, pretty much everybody else is kind of like, there was some people that was kind of changing after she said that. So that was the thing that like two because they were able to like bridge a gap. It's like, okay, you know what? I do get that like, I wouldn't put on a dress or I wouldn't, this is not the clothes I like to present. But I feel like I could have that leeway and, you know, show my masculine here and feminine, however I want to. So I definitely think that that was like, you know, real representation that is needed right now. So yeah, I will say you said that this person was 71 years old.
Mm-hmm. Do you feel like that's a different age form of like lesbian as a lesbian's present themselves, whether super hyper femme or, you know, but do you feel like somebody being of that age is representing something that's not in our modern time right now, maybe? It's interesting because I think, I think it's true. I think age has a lot to do with it. Yeah. There's even this documentary called The Aggressives that was like going into like specifically the bone scene or just like following around like the masculine as lives or even those that end up transitioning as men. Yeah. And kind of just seeing like what their day to day was and like that was a whole nother time zone and that time difference. And a lot of them did transition today. And so I do think that like back then I feel like once they held on to that masculinity, they held and stuck into that. Right. I think nowadays those that are even younger, like my generation, our generation, they feel like, you know what, like I don't want to be boxed in.
Like I want to be out the box. Right. And I think that I do see a lot of like conversation about when the older lesbian speak about like, yo, like all these baby studs or this and that, like they now they make in extra labels and they try to put a negative connotation on it. But it's just like, yo, you know, those identify as women or even not by and every lesbian is in all of the in between. Why can't people just be fluid? I don't really get why there has to be that. Yo, you not a stud, you're not a mask lesbian now because you want to make up now. You want to do this on some days. You know what I'm saying? And then a day people are people. Yeah. They want to do what they want to do. Yeah, never. Because yeah, I was about to say, like how you present in your relationship, like do you feel some days, like you want to reach into that femininity or into that masculinity or do you like feel like is seasons where like you're in that back and you want to switch? I like that you said seasons because it's like, for example, like when I was in high school and even, okay, so my evolution really was like,
middle school, I still presented more of them, but if I was in a relationship, because yes, we was dating in middle school. Come on. When I was in my relationships, I was more of the mass. I would, I would say the dominant one. But I was presented more. You was more of what the Delta, okay? The bra, the one. What the heck? I can't win shadow. No, I'm not the worst. They were the best. All right, mama. I'm crying, but no, literally. And then like high school came and I guess that was when I was in a STEM era, which they, you know, stud and fan mix, whatever. And then I felt like after that, I started to really then understand my gender identity a little bit more as well. And once I stepped into that, understanding my endrogyny and different things like that, I just find as non-binary, you know, that's what I felt like understanding myself. And yes, having the verbiage to understand yourself really does help when you're younger, especially. As I got older now, I don't really give a f, but, you know,
I still think the world is going to perceive me, however they're going to perceive me. If I have opportunity to let you know who I am, and this is what, you know, I need you to respect. Understand, yeah. That's the verbiage I can't explain. But don't be sure to answer your question. I do think that there are seasons, but overall, I present and my energy is on that masculine spectrum, but I'm always from that. Actually, I just, I feel like I really will say, like I really act like a budge queen. If we're being real, see, like, that's what I mean. No, no, no, say me and Michael be gay. And it seems like, like, on the note, like it'd be some static on the low, me and Michael, because, like, you know, that's how I feel, like, really, like, I'm the next, like, we will mix that up. Yeah, literally, all mixed. Yeah, we do present very similar. Okay. You know what I mean? I feel like. I'll feel once I was set up. Yeah, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. You listen. Yeah. You can put that on the one hand. Yeah. We'll bring it to the stage with me.
First, I want to bring up Durant Bernard. Yeah. Like, I have to bring that in. I'm the new, okay. Yeah. That's the perfect set, like, for what we said to Durant. Yeah. Because they kind of play in this whole thing, but, like, they have been taking off. And so, like, I saw an Instagram, because, you know, he's performing at the blue note. Yeah. Okay. And I would say, babes, also, blue note, blue note, I got to add a little C, because I'm like, girl, y'all be giving these artists. They'd be like, okay, take us out now. Take us out. Boom. The day up and this I babes, if you haven't got the money, like that, like, boom, you're done. Okay. So with Durant, I was like, oh, my God, I'm so excited. To see. And then those tickets were sold out. Mm-hmm. And I was just like, oh, my God. I think so. But I get it now. The day that they were put up, I think they were sold out that same day. Yeah. Because, what? We're not as well as his big ones. Exactly. And I remember seeing on his Instagram, like, someone made a thread, like, type of post, saying, like, oh, do we really follow, like, Durant's music, or do we just, like, appreciate the vocal
agility that they possess? And then Durant was like, baby, it's a church. Like, you find in, listen, get into the choir, find your songs, your ad-libs, be a part of the family. And I'm just like, I just love, I love Durant. Don't be so real. Like, you've seen, even when he accepted his Grammy, like, though, you could see the joy of his family, the behind the scenes, just videos of just the support. Like, that's a big thing. Like, the support from your family would really drive. Okay. How you would predict it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, some great music. I think when him and Kichonata do music together, like, babe, that's my, babe, that's my 30 seconds. Oh, my God. I said, oh, K&D. Yeah, like, it's so good. I don't know. I feel like with him is just like, um, I don't know. He just has that magic to him. The gentleman. Yeah, like that gravitas, like he wants to listen. Speaking on Kichonata, who I'm going to bring to campus today is Pink Pantherist.
She's worked with Kichonata. That's what I'm saying. Let's do a collide. Um, at the break awards this year, I think it was like a couple weeks ago or something, um, Pink Pantherist one, um, producer of the year. Yeah. And I feel like, I don't know. I, I feel like there's not a lot of buzz around that. I feel like it was for Rell or like, so his beats or, you know, any other things. Timberland. Timberland. There will be so much buzz. I feel like she's done some of her, most of her music off her phone in her bedroom. In her bedroom. Like, one of your favorite, favorite songs that the, in my ego boost. And then she did that song from her phone in her room. Like, girl, like, give her her kudos. Yeah. I'm not sure. She's doing it big. She had her new album, Stateside, even without Zara Larson, uh, Haliga. Ooh. Is this Alica? Oh, I don't know. That's my babes. Oh, that's what I'm going to do. Down. And if you want to be on Teacher's Lounge, let us know. I'm full. You know, we on that. You know what I'm saying?
Am I a who wants to bring a, um, I'm bringing it. Okay. I did bring her one last time to campus. Tiana Taylor. Oh, that is. Not real talk. Tiana. Can you put in the comments? Cause like we cousins for real. Like, no, we. I'm saying it guys. Okay. Like my family from Harlem. They always say that they stuck. I'm having my cousins. So that's why I really gotta get for how flowers. What she's here. But essentially, you know, um, at the Oscars the other day, you know, she looking good. She lookin' flash, she goin' somewhere on the red carpet, walkin' to her somewhere. And a security guard, a male security guard gonna shove us. Oh, yeah, it's about that video. And I just felt like, you know, she held that with Poise at the end of the day, but you know, she really could have took it there. Okay. But you know, then in that setting, they would've gave her the angry black woman. Right. You from me, so, you know, I just really feel like when we watch the video too, you see everybody tryin' to go on to her and like stop her or whatever. And it's like, nobody is doin' anything behind the scenes, like, you know what I'm sayin'?
Yeah. So I just felt like, I need to support her back on campus cause she, it's just she keep tryin' in and it's like, for a good reason. Like, I'm not gonna let you keep you doin' it. I will say to rebut that, luckily enough, the Oscars, you know, made a statement saying, like, hey, we're so sorry that this happened to you, Tiana Taylor. We've already have been looking into who we booked for security, and we want to, you know, make sure we take the proper actions to make sure that he doesn't work, or work at the Oscars and anything like that. No. Cause they are quick to be like, oh, this angry black woman screaming at, okay, you know, but I don't know, I feel like Tiana Taylor is protected by something, you know what I mean? He's protected. Covered. It's like the devil. Come on now. Okay, cause he tried to do that cause I think for essence of black woman in Hollywood, then Deja and Tiana had an interaction. And I remember there was some publication, I ain't going to name it, but the girlies were given like, oh, they fight and they fight in, and I'm like, babes.
That's how I know you not with the black, you ain't with the community. Oh, I see. Cause they was kidding. They took everyone. Yeah. They don't send a culture. They don't send it. How animated we can get, and especially her from New York, it's like, babe, she don't give, like, animation. I have a whole conversation with people looking. Oh, what's happening? What's happening? We just have names. I'm just talking. I'm from New York. I like my job business a little bit. Hello, honey, babe. Like let the girls live. Let the girls be. And that, like, personally, even me, when I went away for college and Connecticut, every little time I would speak or address something, just because of how I come off, it was like, oh, okay, yeah, my is aggressive. This is God. Like, all right. Like, we already know that they were so obsessed with the whole New York thing too. Like, all right, girls were like, chill. Right, right. But, um, let me know who's bringing all campus. Oh, okay. Speaking of all these, like, controversies, I got to bring Kat's eye. The beginning of the theme. They get in the scene. I would give an F because of all the things that they were doing. But like, the girl is, you know,
Kat's high in this, like, global girl group, type of dynamic with hype and giffin, like a US label and a Korean label. They, there's always, like, these rules and regulations around the group. So it's really weird. Other girls exactly. That's what you get to other girls in their position with the canon cannot say about Menon's height. Some of the baddest ones. Okay. My bias. That was the black one, no? Menon? Yes. Okay. The visual, literally called the visual of the group. Like, he's the face of the group. Okay. Cause she has that, like, Durand, like, that genocide, and like, this hiatus has been a little bit controversy because they made an announcement saying she's taking mental brain. Are you, are you, are you, are you fired? Right. And she was like, girl, I'm healthy. Some things are out of my control. And I'm like, ooh, cock that. Somebody's lying. Yeah. She's lying. Okay. And so they were in Lala Paloza, the five girls for the Latin American run for Lala Paloza, right? Yes.
Right. And she ordered her. And Menon was in New York. So I'm like, oh. I think you showed me that. I was like, oh, it was so bad. The Hudson, your honor. It's like, it's giving break for real. And the girls did good. But watching it, I could tell. It's something. You could tell something was, yes. Her warmth was needed. Mm-hmm. Her tone, like, she has, and she's, her voice is so stable, too, with all the dancing. And you can just, yeah, it's not the same. It's OT6 all the way, like, no, no, no, no, cat's eye for me. I will say for that, a lot of people that listen to cat's eye, especially people of art's can tone, look at, you know, the black woman on stage, too, feel seen. Yes. And when you take that out of the equation, you lose a lot of the demographic of people that actually like to listen to cat's eye. Exactly. My milkshake bring this. Yeah. A car. And they have to put it down, trying to learn that. Right, see me? I wanted to learn it, because I was like, I see somebody on, under that, well, she doesn't look like me, but like, I feel seen because they have the same sense.
Exactly. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay, okay. What are you bringing? Because I ain't going to get too deep into it. Yeah. I'm going to have to read this verbatim, because it's really given a F for Kansas. Like, what's going on in Kansas right now? It's crazy. They recently just passed the several laws that restrict trans rights, including bands on gender affirming care for minors. It also limits on changing gender markers, on IDs and restrictions on trend, athletes and sports. I just feel like a lot of this shit that's going on right now, that regards the LGBTQ. Why are y'all talking at us? Yes. Bitch, we do everything that y'all love to listen to, whether that's dancing that Beyonce does, because she's very into the Chris aesthetics. Yeah. You know, Kat's eye, you get like, bitches love Kat's eye, or gay. I don't know, it's just very aggravating to me, because I'm like, there's so many things that we can be working on, like free healthcare, and like rent stabilization in New York City, or, you know, a plethora of other things
that can't even come to the top of my mind. Right. But I'm just like, I don't know, but there's even more. So like, there's a governor, there's a, excuse me, there is a Democratic governor, Robert Name of Laura Kelly. She's opposed many of these bills and tried to veto them, but, you know how Republicans go, they just, no, no, no, no, we can fight it. No, but we knew this was coming. But it's just so, like, of course, I'm not trans, but like, I have to feel for my brothers and sisters, because, you know, as I was saying on the first episode, we're all on the same boat. We can't get nowhere, we can't roll nowhere, we're not all trying to do the same thing. So I'm just like, Kansas, F. Y'all, you get a big F, don't even come to class, you're expelled. Don't, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't want. What's even in Kansas? All I know was Dorothy was there in some hat. Mind you, it's a sundown town. It's a sundown town. So y'all don't even want this out there at the 6 p.m.
That's crazy. And isn't Kansas shaped like a boot? Like, they kickin' us, they're the curve. They kickin' us. And I'm just like, I don't know. I don't know. What's out with that thing? That actually really brings me some mind next thing I was gonna say, because, well, while it's out of the country is Senegal, but they just also reinforce laws on LGBTQ. And it's kind of just like, I don't understand. What's the fixation? Like, where are we going with this? Where's going with this? And if you already had, you get five years in prison, if you are showcasing the same sex acts in all of this, they double in it down 10 years now. And it's what y'all, the comments was like, they're just gonna be doin' the things in jail. Right, like, y'all put us in a club. I was just like, cause now we know who's gay, who's not. Uh-oh, okay. But it just really gagged me was like, 135 legislators to zero. Like, all of them vote for this. And it's just like, ooh, and they talk about,
oh, they're transmitting HIV, like the whole stigma of everything. There's no actual statistics goin' on though. And it's just like, this is just all their stigma on, you know, the community. Didn't they find a fucking cure for HIV in Australia? And the reason why U.S. don't wanna bring it is because they pay for those medications, they do all of that, so if we break that all off, then there's no money for the government. Oh, of course. So it's fine. It's fine. But there's free health care in Canada. Oh, okay. 100 miles from where we're sitting right now. That part, crazy. We need to get on. Exactly. Oh, you ready to go? Look at the passport. Let me get my bag. No, I'll put it back. I'll say, you know, T. La. That part. Nah, but that's just how I feel. Like, it's always the same repetition of things going on or so. Why do we keep talking about the same stuff? I'm like, can we move on? We got bigger fish to fry, honestly. A.L.C. move. I'm gonna handle something. No, thank you. I want to see you work. Nah. Okay.
Start double that turn. Kiki. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of Kiki, let's talk about Kiki. Do you love me? Palmer. Do you love me? And like this. Oh. Wait, that's much. That's much. I don't know what you're saying. So let's hang in today. Oh my god. Yes. Another day. Another day. But with Kiki, I don't know if you guys know, she's going to be in this new movie directed by Boots Riley called I Love Boosters. It's coming now probably in the summer, I believe. I'm not so sure, but she just did a panel in South by Southwest. Yeah. And in that panel, this random guy walked up to the stage with a ring and asked for her hand in marriage. Ooh. Random person. And like she thought it was a joke. Yeah. Is this a prank? And it was not a prank. It was not. And based on like some of the other people that were there, they were saying that like this guy was, you know, trying to get into the room and security escorted him out, but then he secretly just came back in. And then he said basically what the quote was like, oh, she wants to say yes.
Oh, wait, I think I see that which gagged me. I'm like, babe, you ain't that there's a woman in your life. And he's just like to say yes. She's on that stage looking at you crazy. Exactly. Everybody. I feel like Kiki is in a self-love era and I feel that for her because she ever goes. I love Kiki. But um, no, like, we haven't heard anything about her love life since that man she had the baby with me. Right. And even after that, she said when she does get a new partner, she's going to make sure they have a whole not a separate house like they, she's not your child. They don't want to look. Okay. I mean, I'm the same way. I'm like, if I have a partner, babe, it's two separate bedrooms. Like we can't. We have all these. I'm not on my bed by myself. Like, okay. Any get hot. Then I got to get used to your, you know, hypo, whatever that is. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. With that whole situation. It was kind of crazy. But I think she did an interview, um, surely after like a couple of days later and she's basically saying, you know, she understands the parasocial relationships. Right. And in that moment, she handled it with like grace. And that's why I give her a, because she handled the situation very professionally and she
talked about, like, you know, she doesn't want to crush anybody's realities, but also being like real with people, like, yes, you can have this affection towards the celebrity. But then when you're coming on stage as of her marriage, I'm like, she don't know you like that. Okay. I'm sorry to this man. I don't know this man. Yeah. Very much. But I was just like, I don't know. It's very interesting that how people act towards celebrities. And I'm just like, okay, you got to calm it down. We don't know these people. People out here. Yeah. They keep on receiving it like a pro. So I'm proud of you, Kiki. Okay. We're going down. We're going down. And with that, we're going to go to a quick commercial break. We'll be right back. Yeah. What's going on in my eye? I thought you were supposed to start off. The tension talk segment. Ciao. If you must know, I'm reading all the shadows issue one of their new magazine. And they also just dropped a volume two. So get into it. Wait. What's auto straddle? I need to get in. Listen. They have everything from queer's real queer stories, crosswear puzzles. I mean, if you want to find community bars, eats, they got it all in the same way in
education. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, where can they tap in? Right. They can tap in on Instagram at for them or at auto straddle, which is their queer media site as well. Okay, period. Cause I was looking at this hat. Okay. Is that any princess? Yes. That's that collab with Tima loves music. And for them. Oh, there we go. Yes. I love this. They got a lot of cute stuff in here. Oh, yay. Thank you for for them and auto straddle for providing these products for our episode. We appreciate and love you for what you do for the queer community. Yes. Serious. Okay. But if you want to rush me, let's get into the center talk. Oh, my thanks. I need to get into some things. We got to talk. I don't know. Keep a little bit. Come on now. Okay. Oh, it's going to talk. Yeah. Cause you know, it's really giving. Yeah, I've been waiting. I've been waiting. Okay. Why don't you go ahead? Do yours big one. Listen. Let me reference back. Cause.
Child, this is about to really tie me out right here. We got E.J. Johnson. Right? Okay. So I'm going to address a few things with this. So if you didn't see E.J. Johnson's did a recent podcast interview and just basically talking about how, and this is where it gets tricky for me. Cause I actually don't know what pronouns to use. Right? Oh, yes. I don't know if E.J. Johnson is identifying as a trans woman or still identifying as a boy. So I'm going to say they. Okay. So E.J. Johnson. They went on a podcast interview and just said that they prefer to date straight men. So in that gay men are not attracted to them and that they're not attracted to gay men. So a lot of people were in a room about it. I see a few different things. Even cis straight women came into the conversation and said, you know, I actually don't think that's an issue. But what they did have an issue with is that E.J. then said, yeah, because at the end of the day, if I look cuter in a skirt, I'm aware I skirt, then talk about like against
woman. Right? You know, like, yeah, I look cuter in this skirt or I look this. And so a lot of the women were like, yo, why are you taking jabs at women? Like, and they were like, especially if that's what you're trying to be. That's right. So you know, it was a lot of mixed things. I don't know if I'm missing a part of the story. I don't know. Yeah, I've finally seen it too. Yeah. I would say if he was trying to be a woman, I think he has enough money to, you know, get the surgery, things like that. I think presenting more feminine is fine, but, you know, I think in this day and age, a lot of gay folks appreciate more of a mass presenting man and it's unfortunate because they're very... Again, I love to be more feminine some days, some days, I love to be butch and a lot of people don't appreciate that now unless you live in New York where they're like, okay, I love this, I love this.
Yeah, yeah. Still, again, New York City. It's like, they don't even like that. They really flush with it. No, it's actually really funny because I've been watching The Pop the Bloom Queer Love tracks. Yeah. Now, I'm like, I was really getting into this and things like, I was learning a little bit because I honestly didn't realize what you said is really true. Like, they're like, oh, I don't really like you feminine, oh, you two feminine. Yeah, you two feminine. I didn't know that the boys, the girls, were coming to the community. Yeah. Really have a crazy preference. So, that really doesn't make sense and I wasn't even thinking about that at first when it came to what E.J. was in. This is crazy, yeah. Yeah. E.J. does present very feminine and even when I speaking to my godmother, she even like affirmed that like, yeah, like, E.J. could pass as a woman even. Yeah. And so, I get what you're saying. Like, Jennifer has to, it's like, kind of, they look very simple. What you have to say about this, I mean, I kind of do agree because I remember like a couple years ago, I was at the eagle. Okay.
Wait, tell me what the eagle is. No, I need to know. Babes. One. They very much was giving babes, if you're not shirtless with packs and abs, six packs, like shiny skin, the men are paying you, right, jock strap on with a heart ring, right. And so, I was very much felt a little bit like uncomfortable, like, can I express myself fully? Because sometimes I can't help my femininity, it's just going to come out. Hello. The music is good, bitch, I'm shaking my ass and some niggas do not shake their ass. I'm money like a free throw. Okay. And then if you look at you, like, girl, what's tea, but there's spaces like that where it's like being a little bit more feminine, like the men kind of pay you a little bit. So I'm like, okay, I kind of see that, let's, let's really dive in. And then I know for me in my past, like some of the niggas I have fucked with before, like they have been attracted to my femininity and they have been to not be out as like gay
or they identify as straight or they have mostly had cisgendered partners, women. And then they mess with me because they're like, oh, wait, you kind of like, so I can kind of see. Give it a go. Yes. And I don't judge them because I'm like, babes, I don't know what you go by, I don't know how you identify. You like me, you like me, because maybe it's cities at the top of the ocean at bottom some days. Hello. And though, maybe like giving top energy. But also throwing the jabs at women, that's where I get a little, okay, now slow down. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. Because we don't need to be doing all of that. Like, there's an experience, you have your experience, but there's a lot of people having a whole bunch of different experiences and what they wear. So I don't know. I'm kind of like, hmm, but I do get it. Yes. Cause straight men, sometimes they like a little femininity, even how it presents. Does that know some people? But then this is just what raises the question. And that's even my gamma that was like, okay, but then that's not a straight man. That's what they saying. I mean, at the end of the day, but also, okay, if a straight man has some type of experience
with someone who's queer or is not very, you know, if it is a one, one, okay, one, they still straight, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, then it's like, girl, we've grown. I'm going to finish EJ. Um, EJ, I don't think he knows what he wants. And I'm saying he, him because I, you know, I just how, yeah, you know, that's what it's still saying. But I think when it comes to trying to find a straight man, it's kind of hard. That, that line fluctuates only because you're, you know, you're gay and obviously straight man is a contradicting word straight man, right? You know what I mean? Like if he's a straight person, he's looking for a cisgender woman, which you are not. Yeah. So you're obviously looking for a man that has some sort of fluidity to his sexual level. I think so too. And at the end of the day, I like to say that gender expression, gender identity and sexual orientation is all different to get that through. You could be identifying as bisexual or, you know, pansexual and still like whatever gender
you want. Right. But also be straight and be attracted to the same sex. And that can be true. You know what I'm saying? But people like to put the label on you now, you're curious. Now you this. But I think the way you said it was perfect about there's that fluidity still. Yeah. What? Even if they don't register that mentally yet, it's that's just what it is. You're open. You know what I'm saying? So yeah. Let me bring somebody. Okay. So I have to bring in the teaser talk, Serena Williams. I'm sorry. I know everybody loves Serena Serena down. Babe, I was talking with one of my homegirls like a couple weeks ago and she has Hulu with ads because she ain't paying all that much money. She's fair. You notice that like these Serena, the zip-bound GLP1, like the drugs, yeah, is how she manages her weight was just popping up all the all the time. And when she said that, I started seeing on the trains and I was just like, wait, why are we promoting this like, ozimpic like drug for weight loss, giving that she's an athlete
and she has trained her body so much? Yeah. And I know she said that like part of it was like, oh, after having kids, she wants to maintain her weight. But I'm like, babes, Beyonce had twins and when it came to homecoming, she had that diet. She had that workout plan. I mean, I don't know what she was doing personally, but babes was working in that gym. And I think it is possible. And I feel like as a black woman and our history is black people with drugs, it's like, I kind of feel a little bit weird seeing this being promoted because I remember once upon a time seeing a Serena in a commercial with a fridge full of healthy goods and different things like that. So now that you're telling me she's in this commercial, it's kind of, it is very strange because it literally hurt and jacked him from motin them drugs. Yeah. Showing her like, you can be skinny, you can be skinny, you can be skinny. No, you're going to look like a ghost. You're going to look like you're not there. I've seen a lot of people like, right, factor in the faces, factor in like they're about to disappear. And I don't want a body shank because yeah, yeah, body yet choice, but it's about
you're promoting a drug. Right. No fact. But here we are talking about, oh, you know, you can't do drugs, you can't do whatever. What's you said it? Do not do drugs. Don't do it. No shame. Oh, no shame, no shame. Yeah. But they promoted it. So heavily like now, I feel like damn, should I get one too? I would look skinny for 2026. Exactly. Exactly. You know, there's four people with the world bees and who have this. Right. There was a whole reason behind it. That's where ghosts were abusing is one thing to use in your abusing and so it's like you're also using it in the wrong way that wasn't really intended for your audience. And you know, then that's the way from the whole purpose. Yeah. I had to put her in there. Yeah. What about you? I will say on the steps of us talking about straight folks and things like that, I want to bring in allyship. I feel like something that just recently happened with nappy boy from gay magazine last name Smith, but they want to they want him to switch it to nose, but the thing that I know is
that he did a gay event recently and he was supposed to ask questions with an interview with gay magazine. Yes. And in the video, he's, you know, saying that he doesn't want to do it. I'm not doing that. And then I feel like he said something to the girl on his left and asked her to kiss her on something because they did some sort of interaction. And I'm not trying to put all of this weight on to you, Jules, but I will say you have a platform that could not only benefit you, but it can benefit us as a whole. And I'm speaking about the LGBTQ community. If you're going to confirm to do a interview or you know, some sort of event with the LGBTQ and your team confirmed to do an interview, and then you cancel it that last minute, I feel like you're using us essence. I don't know. You're benefiting off of our platform. Yes. And I feel like that's unfair. And it's not just you. You know, there's a lot of people that do that, whether it's Harry Styles, you know, even
though he just did the SNL skits thing, you don't know everything about me dad. We don't know his sexuality. We have no feelings. Everybody has claimed that he is something. And you know, again, that's queer bathing. Yeah. And there's another person that's done that as well. Maluma, when it comes to his aesthetics, you know, bad bunny, you know, I think he's come out. Maybe he said, maybe 20 years down the line. He'll be something like that. Oh, everybody want to just like, okay, I'm going to dip my toe in and I'm going to come back when I get my towel, you know, I mean, like, if you're going to be with us, girl, I don't know. I love a good on time. But like, if you're going to be, you know, about the LGBTQ, but you're not like a part of it, please just show up. It means a lot to us when you show up, but you're not, you know, yeah, the other side to that was just like, your family has shown up. Yes. A lot of time.
Okay. So hope Renaissance. Come on. Cool. Johnny. Yeah. Like, I just don't get that part. Like what you, you making your family look bad, no shit. Yeah. You know, like, I'm a little confused why you didn't want to do the questions. Like, you know, there was like a lot that people could have learned from that actually. Yeah. That's representation itself for the allyship of like, okay, this straight person is able to go on to this community and to this setting and, you know, be secure who they are. I think we was even saying like NBA young boy has, you know, got gametes of the communities of people. Yeah. Blue face. Yeah. I don't know. Blue face is weird. He did it properly. But he's there. Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah. Weird, you know, person, like at the same time, he showed up. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't hiding his face under his hoodie. He wasn't doing any of that. And another person is James Franco. He plays nothing but gay roles, but this is a straight man.
Okay. You know what I mean? And like, don't benefit off of our bag and not show up for us. You know what I mean? Okay. I don't know. Yeah. I'm tired. Yeah. I'm tired. No, because it's possible to be even a queer icon, but not be queer. Yeah. Like pop. Well, I think, well, this is again, it's one of the things, but like Lady Gaga, like, she's not queer, but I think that's a queer lady. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's a queer lady. Yeah. She's even dressed. She's done and done drag. No, literally. Yeah. I mean, that's not good. Which one? I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Oh. Wait, I do have a quick question. Back to what I was saying about tracks. I was watching. He was like, oh, because one of the contestants was interested in him and he was like, oh, I don't date men. But I was confused. So I thought he was gay. And then even when I was really looking into it, you do want to be there. I'm confused what he meant. Like he was on Bobby. I love you. Showing all that. So. I was going to say he could have been a good representation for all that shit because he's not gay
question mark, but he's giving the power for queer love. So. Yeah. I don't know what he's given. Okay, now. Okay. We already talked about that. That's enough of the jules miss. Who are you bringing the attention? I'm bringing in choice brown and hot tea when it comes to her relationships. I mean, I know we're not really supposed to get into people's business. But anyway, if you had no choice, brown is, you know, we love getting it with you a bit. Okay. Sabatha Brown, that vegan lady. We love her. She got good energy. Her daughter. And, you know, she's one of the girls. And so she just recently got a relationship with, I think YB is her name and it was just like so quick. I was shifted over. And now she's day and on to me. And so the tea is like how you was able to get over on TNA so quick that the next day, I mean, YB so quick that you next day you were on TNA. So the other part to it is though that she's now coming out saying that YB had posted
a revenge point how YB was abusive. And you know, I just didn't like that because it's a lot of stigma around the lesbian community specifically tool. You know, I definitely know it could get there. But it's like, if YB saying that that's not true, like, you know, I'm saying, I just don't, I don't know who to believe choice was looking real convincing and, you know, they go and I think there's always a double standard as well in the lesbian community when it comes to the FEM versus the stud. They go, you know, take up for the FEM, oh, innocent, I'm a little, you know, a little distressed. Like, damn, just like, I don't know who we really got to trust right now. Okay. But I actually don't know about, I'm really excited that you bring a lot of people to the platform because it helps me understand another side of the community that I don't necessarily like exactly. Like last time, I think you did easy with that and they've been on my platform before, like I've seen them sometimes, but I don't know a lot of these stories.
So maybe I got to join my homework, y'all, you know, the homework, you know, like the stigma around that. And so if it's not true, you know, don't say that, but I'm going to leave it at that. I just want to bring that to the table because it got to be in detention. Okay. It's different. Okay. Come on. And the next person I need to bring you into detention into detention is Jack Harlow. Oh, not. Come here close. Come here close. Baby naming that album Monica got me stressed a little bit because are you saying my Niko? Monica? And you had this R&B album and you trying to sing and do all of that girl stop it. Okay. But we can already be here because I feel like it was trash. Exactly. And the only song that was good on there was Trading Places and I listened to this album. Trading Places. I listened to this album three times in one city. This album is only 28 minutes long. Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like if it was like girl, you got to put something out girl. Exactly.
I don't even want to give him his numbers. I didn't listen. I listen to the first song. I'll pay you. Change the place. This is cute. Let's not drop that. I will say Jack Harlow recorded this album at a space called Electric Lady. This is a space where a lot of Neo Soul artists go to to, you know, write and record things like that. Just to name a few, Joe Scott, Eric Abadoo, the late D'Angelo. So I think he was trying to get that essence of music because he said in an interview, I'm going blacker. Like, yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. That's the man. Nick Garh. Okay. Yeah, that's my nigga. My nigga. He went to Electric Lady and came out nigger. Okay. He said, no, he came out with the same hat. Am I a god? Oh shit. He coming for the gigs for real. Okay. I'm going to bring that up because I'm like babes and also this because it's like Post Malone. Yeah. When he was coming in on that rapping game and now he's this big country artist. I hear no rap song from Post Malone. Yeah. He no longer whatever song.
Oh my god. So much after. Are you going to do the same thing? I do. Oh. Oh. Oh. Jack Harlow's booth. And I like it. I do. I'm like, I'm like, I want one for home. Yeah. I don't know. Right. Yeah, I'm feeling. Yeah. Okay. I'm crying. Okay. Do you want anybody else for detention? Um, I don't necessarily have anybody else for detention talk. I wanted to bring up Timothy Shalameh. Yeah. Um, I know he's been the ballerina joke as of lately. Curie. Cause he came out. Oh, excuse me. That's just kept me back. Oh. Um, but he basically came out saying something in an interview with Matthew McConaughey. Um, speaking about the ballet community and the opera community, um, I want to say, I want to give him like his grace on because everybody should have their own opinion, but I will say there's a way to go about things without, you know, making other people feel upset about what you're going through.
But again, you know, just like you have your own opinion, you have your own opinion. Yeah. Timothy should be able to have his voices on opinion, um, but at the Oscars, he was the ball of every joke. Yeah. Somebody got up there. It was boom, boom, boom, boom. And, you know, you people can only take so much. You know what I mean? Like based off of my opinion, now the whole world's bashing me and he has a bigger platform. Like I can handle it for bitch, you know, right, trying to be like, Oh, Michael's this Michael's that, but everybody, I'm just like, okay, like I get it, I get it. But like, I don't know. Well, America doesn't even value the arts for real for real. Like they'll hype up the sports before they give money to even dance and all that stuff. Right. Like in that comment, I'm kind of feeling like babes. They already not funding the girls, like we are dancer in the community. We try to get grants all this stuff. People from the fun. Yeah. Because they don't care a little bit. So I don't know. Let's be bad teacher right now. But the arts and the world go around for real and that's the end of the day. But they feel like the money is coming in from the entertainment with the sports and
all that. Right. I mean, at the end of the day, you still need dancers, though, okay, you still need to have respect. You need singers. Like, let's, let's get it together. Like, Gallian opera has been around for 400, 500 years. Yeah. Foundational. Like, foundation, bro. Like, when you go in there, I think somebody was saying this. I think it was Doja. When you go in there, there's a certain type of respect that you need. You gotta sit down. You gotta shut up there. No clapping then. No, none of that. It's a tough job. Because people work hard for their art. But yeah, that's what you're saying. But I don't even got nothing else to bring to the tension talk. Honestly, what a conversation I have is just tired. Yeah. I don't even want to bore you out with that. So rich. Yeah. I'm over it. I have to try to call it Timothy. It's like, it's too many white men. Girl. Pass it. Pass. Done. We're going to start up our yearbook of one. Yeah. We've got to pop up these surprises. Like the favorite fees, you know, so we're going to get into it. I'm actually going to start off. I'm going to start off with, most likely to succeed in everything that you do.
We'll go to Quinlan Blackwell. Yeah. Put it back on. You've been lately, like you've been on YouTube. You've been on TV shows. You've now done carpets. You've been a host at the Oscars recently, which I think you did fab. And I saw some meme where you was staring at some guy like, oh, you need, oh, I didn't know. Why? He was fine. I don't know. I didn't even see that. Oh, I got to tell you that. That was what you asked for. Stand close. Stand close. Oh, okay. It's what you look at the camera. She went. Oh, no. No way. I'll cry. No, but shout out to you, Quinlan. Maybe we can get you on a teacher's lineup, or so. You let me know. We'll get, we'll get, and throw out a little bit down the line, but you're, you're all going to bring. Okay. I'm going to go. Sign in, yeah. So I, I mean, I have a couple. Okay. I feel like. Okay. I'm going to give it to Megan, the stallion for most likely to steal the spotlight. So, you know, news came out. You would love her. Okay. Cause I, I'm a pony. I'm not tall like a stallion, but I'm a pony and I can, yeah.
Okay. I'm a horse. Look at that horse. It'll get a horse. Is that the same song, or is that it? Different one, but, you know, you get the same thing, body T, body T, like Megan. But she's going to be on Broadway or moon on, oh, I think Ziggler. I think I'm saying that right. Ziggler, Ziggler. Broadway debut. Broadway debut. Which I'm like, almost like just cheers to her for like stepping into this new era, right? You know, being, cause she has like the Popeye's franchise. She does music. She's getting her acting bad. She's something. Nothing is. Yeah. Right. But she know I'm black. Oh. Perfect. But also being just after the year she, the past few years that she has, like you have her new man. Yes. Being healthy. Working on music. I don't know. She's singing now, though, right? Oh, playing her vocal. Yeah. I think they broke up. Gadget. I'm. Yeah. Come on. Love is not real. No, cause. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
From what I remember, it might have changed now, but wow, the father was trying to cook in and. Oh. All right. He was just celebrating. She still, she still got grown. Let's convert. You're here. No. Well, I go shit. I got one or two bass. Come on. Okay. You forget. Let's give up. So the suprosive I have is greatest duo doing it for the culture. And that's going to go to Ryan Kugler and Michael D. Jordan. Yay. Once they are together, magic is made. It's a pleasure to leave for the black community. And it's just like, yo, look at the, like, all the films they've done together. It's just always going to top the charts in this speedy storytelling and it's finest too. And it's like, they really trust each other. That brotherhood is real crazy and really, like, just love that, you know, black brothers thinking together. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Creed, like, we have one and then sinners, like, come on. Okay. The sinners are movie. No, literally.
They just really do things magic together. So I just, I'm, I love to see it. Yeah. So that, that's honestly my only suprosive today. Oh, period. Really? Yes. That's how strong I feel. Yeah. I think that one's a good one. Yeah, it is. I want to say, I want to bring a one more superlative with me on my end and it's going to go to T.S. Madison. It is. Most likely to get her lick back. Yeah. Bitch. The stuff I've been shooting with the deal stocker with the, you know, cause you, you know, I mean, like, you don't find you. Basically, he's been threatening her, like, starting to kill her and things like that. And essentially, I saw a video of her with a shotgun outside her door. She don't play. I'm like, she does not play. I don't care. Like, T.S. Madison has always been that girl. If you ever need assistance, know our DMs are open. We need that as well, cause I'm sick of the deal stockers thinking that they got one over us. Or anybody like. Yeah. The deal. Crazy. Yeah. Whisperer.
Do you need that? I don't know. I don't know if it was a deal. Whisperer. It was deal whisperer. Now it's deal stalker. Oh. Boom. There you go. It was in front of that lady's house. Yeah. I took a video. I think I seen that. Yeah. So it's cause T.S. Yeah. She's going to stop us. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was your house. In the age of AI, honey, please. No. Damn. Yeah. But we love you over here. Make sure. Hey. You know, you're going to follow her because. Exactly. That's my mother's room. That's my mother's room. That's my mother's room. Mother's room. Big O.G. And we need auntie over here too. Okay. No, say. But yeah, who are you about to bring? You got your last one? Yes. Okay. Well, the first Avroyer and she will go for the socks. of her, Cavilleлив. Can you do a walk? Yeah. Something was to my turn.
Ow. den. I think I know what you want to say after this word broke some of the relationships. What you want to say after this pontoon, you want to talk about it as something. That's what the car is. Yeah. Yea. York. Come on now. I'm like thankful for that. It just makes sense. So it's right on the customer pride month too. Like, you know, we get, we get, you know, over there right now. It's giving pride. It's about to be. Oh, pride. Come on now. She's going to be here two months. Yeah. Oh, I feel like I'm going to see all the sidewalks with the rainbow lines. Okay. It will be outside for a girl. It's not going to be what the, you know, rainbow fishing and pink fishing. Because that's another thing. What? Well, I'm when I'm fishing, washing, rainbow washing and pink washing because you know, these corporations and, you know, they'll do a real quick Zara H&M. That's why I hope, man. Donnie is really what he's doing. That's what I'm, that's the only thing I need. Right. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's like, okay, I'm giving congratulations because you have made the effort more than
everybody else has done. Right. But let's see how it unfolds because, you know, people are still human. They make mistakes. So we'll see. Right. I don't know. But I love it now. Is that the bell? No. Oh, my God. Wait. Is that the bell? Yeah. We was just getting into something. Oh, my God. Well, we love that you guys joined us for today. If you guys don't follow us already or subscribe, please for free to follow us here. Yes. And we'll see you guys at the next episode. And again, thank you for them for the place. Yeah. I know that's right. I'm aware this had tomorrow. Are we sure to follow them on Instagram, add for them or add auto straddle for their career media. Stay tuned. And stay tuned because we got a word. Snip, snip, snip. We got a special guest joining us on our next episode. Yay. Can I wait to share that with you? You don't want to miss it. Yeah. Hello. Period. What that? We'll see y'all later. Yay. Oh, my God. Yay. I ate it down. Period. I'm feeling this. If you call me daddy, I don't hit you into the paintings.
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