EVSN - Glaciers: Going, Going…Gone

0:00It's the 365 days of astronomy podgang coming in three two one Science isn't all knowing. Scientists don't know everything. Science is about the pursuit of understanding and what we do as researchers is an incremental process that hopefully notches our understanding forward bit by bit as we approach the truth. Lately I've been hearing a lot of nonsense about how scientists are getting rich off of con jobs like making up the dangers of coal, of air and water pollution

1:02and of global warming. First of all, we are not rich. A manager at a fast food restaurant here in southern Illinois earns more than associate professors, mid-career folks at our local college. There are some hot shots out there who are the best in the world and they are getting paid healthy salaries. Most of us, we're rocking used cars old black tops and accidentally vintage clothing while relying on having roommates or spouses to make life affordable. We are middle class. We are not getting rich spreading this information for the laws. Most of us who work in academia are driven by a need to try to understand new things, to find the missing pieces in our understanding of history and our knowledge of the universe. And when we learn things, to contradict generally accepted knowledge, we take a deep breath, roll up our sleeves

2:05and try to figure out how to get our ideas out to the world. Because many of us are driven to educate as much as we are driven to discover. For the past 70 years, humanity has seen research into the effects of environmental pollution on life, leveraged into legislation. Our understanding that chloroflora carbons trigger destruction of the Earth's ozone layer that in turn causes cancers has led to laws that change the contents of everything from hairspray to air conditioning units. And we're seeing reductions in the hole in the ozone layer now. Our understanding that the pesticide DDT is a carcinogen that also causes birds' eggs to thin led to international restrictions on its use, restrictions that have allowed bird species like the American condor to come back from the brink of extinction.

3:05I could keep going. Removal of lead from gasoline led to lower crime rates. That's my favorite factoid. I could keep going, but I won't. Because it's hard to see the point right now. Last week, a new executive order removed vast swaths of our nation's environmental protection regulations. And projects were incentivized to use energy from coal burning power plants instead of lower cost renewable energy. I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to the days when city skylines are hidden by yellow layers of smog. But here we are. I always imagined our dystopian future would at least have clean air. I was not creative enough. And while this was happening, research article after research article came out discussing melting glaciers and climate change. The climate change articles got set aside for a future

4:06episode, but I did pull out the glacier news to discuss today. Our world is changing. It is changing because of us. In today's closer look, we learn about glacial surges on land and the effects on the sea and notice the rash of tourists showing up to say goodbye to the world's remaining glaciers before it becomes too late. We also look at volcanoes because sometimes you need fiery molten goodness to go with your ice. I'm Dr. Pamela Gay, a senior scientist at the Planetary Science Institute. And you are watching Escape Velocity Space News, an independent science news show funded by you, our donors through patreon.com slash CosmoQuestX. I need to start this story with a disclaimer. Never trust Evolcano.

5:14You may think there is no chance it is about to erupt. You may even think it is dormant. Volcanoes don't care what you think. If the pressure inside gets high enough, they are going to blow. There are knowledgeable volcanologists who risk their lives to place instruments and collect samples from erupting volcanoes. They are made of the same stuff as tornado chasers, deep water explorers and astronauts. And most of the time they stay safe thanks to their training. Unless you are a volcanologist, do not explore active volcanoes. Case in point. On February 13th, roughly a dozen hikers were climbing in the Caldera of the Pitendila fornays when a fissure opened up a few meters in front of them and began fountaining lava. Initially they took phone video, but when rocks started getting

6:17hurled into the air and the fountains grew, they took off running. Ultimately three climbers slightly injured, had to be rescued by helicopter. And everyone had to get themselves to safety, but they did have the help of local law enforcement. This eruption was not predicted. It is ongoing. And it's the second eruption so far this year. And it's February. Folks do not trust volcanoes, especially active volcanoes. This particular volcano, located on Reunion Island, is one of the most active in the world. Its isolated nature and regular eruptions make it a perfect target for researchers trying to predict the will it wanted of volcanic activity. While some volcanoes are pretty good at telegraphing their intentions through expansion, tilting of the landscape, and specific kinds of earthquakes

7:20that are linked to underground lava flows. Not every prediction leads to an eruption and these false positives can lead to significant economic losses when tourists avoid visiting or people evacuate out of an abundance of caution. Failure predict eruptions, as happened last Friday, can cost people their lives, which luckily didn't happen on Friday. Since 2014, researchers have been testing a new seismic signal called a jerk signal. These long wavelength transient signals come from magma intrusions that cause horizontal ground motions. They're actually measuring the acceleration of the acceleration, which mathematically is called a jerk. Between 2014 and 2023, researchers issued alerts as much as eight and a half hours in advance of 92% or 22 of the island's 24 volcanic

8:23eruptions. It also predicted two eruptions that didn't happen, but both these false predictions were linked to actual magma intrusions and what are called aborted eruptions. This is amazing news, but we don't know if the plumbing of that one particular volcano allows this method to work, while the unique and different and changing plumbing of other volcanoes will foil this method. These results are published in nature communications with lead author, Francois Boudelsel. In 2026, this team will deploy needed equipment at Mount Etna to see if they can replicate their work. Another possible target for this kind of study is the kill away of volcano in Hawaii. The Hawaiian islands are the result of hot spots in the Earth extending tongues of magma up through the moving continental plates. As the plates move along, new volcanoes form as old ones fade away.

9:26And when I said spots, I said that on purpose. The islands have two different kinds of lava chemistries and some research hints at two spots being responsible for this difference. The currently most active of these volcanoes is kill away out on the big island, which has had sustained activity since 1983. Famous for its lava fountains and amazing lava lake, this volcano was associated with a magnitude 6.9 earthquake on May 4, 2018. This quake occurred the day after the Loa Kuna eruption, which opened 24 fissures near and in numerous subdivisions and threatened the Penangia thermal venture. This quake didn't trigger significant damage, but it did have a weird side effect on the landscape. Specifically, the landscape stopped moving. Prior to the quake, study fault creep was observed with the volcanic pile meets the underlying oceanic crust. The

10:29sudden release from this large earthquake could have released so much stress that it will take time for pressures to rebuild to the point that slow slip events are seen again. This quiet period is called a stress shadow. According to Ingrid Johansson, quote, assuming study loading from fault creep, we calculate that the slow slip fault regions could be of stress shadow for 56 years plus or minus three years. End quote. Johansson is first author of a new study in the bulletin of the size ological society of America. This particular fault is known to regularly erupt and was responsible for a 7.7 magnitude earthquake in 1975 and a devastating 7.9 magnitude earthquake in 1868, which also triggered a tsunami. The volcanic islands like Hawaii, reunion and so many

11:29others always have this potential for the triple assault of eruptions, earthquakes and tsunamis for when you need the earth fire and water to all record a. In general, massive quakes are associated with the build up of stress, where a crustal plate abuts against either another plate or volcanic pile that limits its motion. In some places, we can see one part of a fault steadily move while another part remains stock until a big quake releases all the tension. In other places, we see different parts of a fault release at different times. In general, we know that a certain amount of motion is going to need to happen at some point in time because surrounding regions have already moved. And once that big one happens, we know we are going to have a few decades or maybe centuries before the pressure

12:30builds back up. At least that's how it's supposed to work. But the conchocked up peninsula had an unexpectedly large 8.8 to 8.9 magnitude earthquake last July. It occurred within 40 miles of the center of the 1952 magnitude nine quake that also triggered a trans oceanic tsunami. This quake was associated with a 9 to 12 meter slip, an amount as much as double what was believed to have built up along the fault line. A new study in the journal seismica with first author Yugi Yagi explains this quake may have resulted both from new stress in the system, as well as residual strain created when the 1952 quake experienced dynamic overshoot. Or what I would call backlash if it was a geared system, essentially the fault rebounded and got locked in place with stress already there waiting to be

13:33released. This means that sometimes that stress releasing quake can also be a stress causing quake. Figuring out volcanoes is weirdly going to be a lot easier than sorting earthquakes. And we have a long way to go before we're successful at either of these problems. From Earth to Fire, we now turn to ice. Stay tuned for an update on the Earth's glaciers. There is something almost magical about hiking on a hot summer's day, and seeing ice covered mountains off in the distance. I was lucky enough to get the climb up to the base of a glacier when I was younger back in 1989, and

14:33I'll never forget that experience above the tree line. According to the UN Environment Program, between 2020, that glacier I saw shrank by 20 to 25%. The ice I saw on the retreating tongue is long gone, and what I experienced is no longer an option for adventurous climbers. All around the world, we're seeing ice cover shrank, and a new study in nature climate change with lead author Emanuel Salim looks at how humans are reacting to this loss. According to anthropologist researcher Semini Hal, quote, most people on Earth will never be able to visit a glacier, and that fact becomes truer every day as they disappear. But the desire is there to be near these giant bodies of ice is a powerful experience, because they are unique natural wonders that move,

15:33creek, whisper, and invite reflection. For those who live near glaciers, losing the marks and end to cultural forms and an environment that have been millennia in the making. End quote. Roughly 14 million people a year visit glaciers. A number that is increasing as FOMO becomes more and more of a concern. Unfortunately, this kind of ecotourism can put stress on the very systems. Folks are afraid will disappear. This study suggests the challenge is not only how to witness the loss of glaciers, but how to ensure that grief, awareness, and tourism do not accelerate the very forces driving their disappearance. Trying to figure out how to balance raising awareness without scaring people too much or triggering actions that do more harm than good is one heck of a challenge. Humans are as complex as the climate,

16:35and in some ways they are even more unpredictable. If you have a chance to visit a glacier because you're already near it, take that opportunity. But don't go out of your way. As Hal points out, quote, glacier tourism that facilitates access to these majestic sites can often be part of the fossil economy problem that is hastening glaciers demise. End quote. Melting glaciers are one and most dangerous phenomena on our planet. As they melt water can build up in lakes that eventually break free, sending a surge of water down rivers and valleys. In these narrow corridors, humans may have no easy path to high ground, or insufficient warning to get there. In October 2023, this kind of devastating flood tore through Gwati, India, leaving more than 100 people dead or missing. Communities weren't just flooded.

17:36They were also buried in mud. In Alaska, recurring outbursts from the Mendenhall glacier have led a nearby valley to be named Suicide Basin. And homes and other structures continue to fall prey to this glacier's surges. As more and more glaciers experience accelerated melting, researchers are looking for ways to predict these kinds of floods and the rapid motion associated with glacial surges. With sufficient warning, towns can move and infrastructure can be short up against future disaster. But long term planning requires pulling apart changes that occur due to seasonal variation as well as long term variations. Researchers have to be able to ask, is observed melt in movement, a sign of spring, or assign the glacier is approaching a new tipping point?

18:36In a new paper in Nature Communications, researchers led by Taylor Smith apply a new math technique floating to multipliers, to glacial systems around the world and demonstrate that glaciers' behavior can be predicted by measuring their velocity over time and looking for changes and how each cycle can be described. The math on this is complex with eigenvalues punctuating the analysis as plots are analyzed for periodicities. Ultimately, I and astrophysicist don't need to understand that math. What I and you need to know is this one kind of measurement velocity that can be obtained with GPS or satellites when acquired for multiple points along a glacier is sufficient to identify systems that are becoming unstable. A lot more work is needed to understand time scales

19:36and accuracy of the predictions. But this is an important start. As we try to predict how glaciers and i-sheets will evolve over time, it is important to understand that for the foreseeable future there will always be things we miss or fail to account for as our world changes. And some of the things that we're seeing are just plain chaotic. For instance, really weird dynamics are observed in the Greenland ice sheet. Ice penetrating radar has made out large structures that look like the kinds of chaotic plumes you'd expect to find in a lava lamp. Intuition tells us ice should be solid and not move like a solid should not move. But our intuition is actually really bad at doing science. After years of not being able to explain these weird features,

20:36a team led by Robert Law realized that rock inside the earth can't convect very slowly, like the contents of a lava lamp. And ice is softer than rock. As law explains, quote, finding that thermal convection can happen within an ice sheet goes slightly against our intuition and expectations. Ice is at least a million times softer than the earth's mantle though. So the physics just work out. It's like an exciting freak of nature, end quote. For better or worse, convection is a somewhat chaotic process. But understanding it is there, is the first step to understanding how to include it into predictions about ice melt. And as law points out, quote, Greenland and its nature is truly special. The ice sheet there is over 1,000 years old. And it's the only ice sheet on earth to have a culture

21:38and permanent population at its margins. The more we learn about the hidden processes inside the ice, the better prepared will be for the changes coming to coastlines around the world. End quote. The world is changing. Science will help us survive those changes. But not every coastal or ice fronting community will make it. We will have to move. We do have to prepare. I have to admit, I prefer the unpredictable fiery destruction of lava to that of melting ice. At this point, we would normally throw to Eric Mattis and rocket news. But with everything going on from crew 12th to Artemis 2

22:38and all the other new rockets proving themselves, we're working on a special rockets episode. For now, let's return to volcanoes. I have a cool piece of news from Jupiter's Moon Eye, which reminds us that the same physics here is at play across the universe. It's just the details that change. We often see relationships between volcanoes here on earth where linkages in the magma plumbing can cause multiple eruptions to trigger one another. Io takes this idea and erupts with it. On December 27th, 2024, the Juno mission made one of its closest approaches to Io, and took infrared images of Io that revealed hot spots associated with active volcanism. Samultaneous eruptions sprawled across 40,400 square miles or 65,000 square kilometers, implying that this suite of hot spots are somehow all linked through a previously unknown web of magma tunnels.

23:38The amount of energy released is estimated at 140 to 260 terawatts. For comparison, Mount Sid Helen's 1980 eruption was 52 terawatts. Io is a moon that is just over 2,000 miles in diameter. Boston to San Diego is 3,000 miles. That is a tremendous amount of energy to come from one small rock. And that is awesome. And that is all for now. Good night everyone. And remember to go look up. Oh, and please give this video a like and subscribe so the algorithm tells you in the world when new science is ready to be learned. This week we'd like to thank the following $10 a month and up patrons at patreon.com slash cosmoquistx. Jason Jeff Harris. Jeffrey Mershini. Joe Holstein. Joseph Bernat.

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