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Episode 264 | A Second Bite at The Big Apple

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Trump’s latest attempt to kill his 34 count felony conviction. 

Pardoned January 6th insurrectionists keep committing more crimes.

We have some updates on Rudy and the Pillow Man.

Plus, Harry is running for Congress!

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Episode 264 | A Second Bite at The Big Apple

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0:00Hey everybody, welcome to episode 264 of clean up on aisle 45. It's Wednesday, February 11th, 2026. I'm Allison Gil. A.G. What's up? It's Harry Dunn here. Happy on Super Day week after Super Bowl, I guess. Yeah. Happy day after Super Bowl Sunday, right? Yeah. Yeah. Should need to be a national holiday, by the way. I think so too. I think so. As somebody friends that like texted me, like, well, the group chat, like I went to a friend's house and, you know, Super Bowl parties and stuff like that. Everybody, well, not everybody, I say about three-fourths of the people that were there, definitely called out. So it just needs to be a holiday. But anyway, we'll talk about a little bit about Super Bowl a bit later. But we got a lot to cover in this episode, including Trump's latest attempt

1:03to kill his 34 count felony conviction and more crimes committed, pie pardoned insurrection is so. Yeah, they just don't stop. And we do have some updates today on Rudy and the pillow man. It sounds like the worst television show ever, if I have to be honest. That actually does like a horrible sitcom, right? Welcome to Rudy and the pillow man. Brought to you by low T supplements or whatever. Definitely a lot of low T in that show. Yeah, and I want to talk about the Super Bowl too. But I also want to talk about you running for Congress. This would be the first time we announced this on the public episode here on cleanup on Al 45. You're running for Maryland's fifth. You're going to take Steny Hoyer's seat, which he's had for eight thousand years. And I'm really excited about this campaign. Thank you. Thank you. Yes. All of our non-patriots who didn't hear the bonus episodes and or didn't get one of the numerous text message sent out in the emails and all that stuff. I am running for Congress and Maryland's fifth congressional district. Like Alison says,

2:06Steny Hoyer held the seat on close to 50 years. But he's been a pillar for the country, for Maryland. And everybody else is still going to be big shoes to feel. But I got some big feet. You do. I was 15 and I got some big feet. But no, I'm, you know, I'm really, everybody was just, I'm really excited to be doing this and everything. But to be very candid with everybody, I wish that I didn't have to do this. I wish that I could, you know, campaign for my favorite, you know, candidate or, you know, I could sit there and send emails or donate money to help them get elected. But I don't think we have the luxury in this moment to sit back and just see how things are going to play out. We literally have to create the future that we deserve with our own hands and not just depend on somebody else to do it. Like we would be able to under normal circumstances, because these are not normal times and everything that's happening is not normal. We say that a lot, A.G. This is not normal. No, yeah, I'm with you. I'd like to be

3:09doing a podcast about what my dad did in Vietnam and what Kamala Harris is doing in the White House. But here we are, instead having to do the work that we're doing. And I'm especially looking forward to you getting out there, getting on the campaign trail and winning that seat. That would be outstanding. I'm really excited. I'm really excited about it. Like I said, you know, I wish I didn't have to, but I am excited about a real opportunity of us. I say us because we're a family here. And everything I do, it's about the people, not about me. So us having an opportunity to win this seat. And, you know, I get a lot of the courage that so many of you all talk about. I've reached your comments and how strong, you know, courage, I get that from you all. So we have an actual opportunity to do it and bring this fight to Donald Trump and these enablers in Congress that are just letting him do whatever the hell they want with no accountability,

4:10no oversight, no checks and balances that won't happen when I'm elected to Congress. Yeah. And I think people are hungry for that change. I mean, we saw it on display in front of 175 million people at the Super Bowl. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Pretty crazy Super Bowl, even as far as football goes, there wasn't a touchdown until the fourth quarter. Yeah. But that halftime show, well, first of all, you know, started with with Green Day and American idiot. And then we move on to Brandy Carlisle, playing an acoustic version of America the Beautiful. And then we get to to Bad Bunny's amazing halftime show. And meanwhile, the whole alternate turning point USA halftime show couldn't be streamed on X because of licensing problems. Even watch it at Mar-a-Lago. They all watched the Bad Bunny thing and they were super mad about it, you know, I don't understand Trump. I don't understand what the word this guy is saying. But then he,

5:12you know, he wants to go listen to ball with a ball to bang to bang. Did he? Okay. But there were so many incredible messages up on the big jumbo tron as well. And he's down in it in the sugar cane. Well, you could just see the imagery though. It just meant like I kind of can understand Spanish if you talk real slow and like give me a chance to think back to my AP high school classes. Maybe I could understand, but you didn't need to understand Spanish to understand the unity that he was promoting in this. He didn't mention Trump. He didn't mention ice. He talked about love is stronger than hate and division. And he talked about unity and togetherness. And isn't that what we need? And once at this moment, now listen, I understand people that say, Hey, I'm not going to turn into a music station that I don't understand or even like the music. That's fine. People absolutely. But for the reasons that people were given, Oh, this should be done in English,

6:14you're absolutely insane. And it shows how close minded you are. And I probably know who you voted for based on why you did or did not like bad bunnies performance. Yeah. And his reminder that, you know, America includes a lot of places, a group of countries, you know, America, America, or a part of it. Yeah. The whole Latin America community. Yeah. The whole Latin America could be about all the flags out. He was in, you know, it was just I thought it was really well done. I thought it was an important message. And that love is the only thing that can, you know, be back hate. So yeah, shout out to bad bunny. And the bad bunny fans who knew a long time ago, how great this man was and talented. He was shout out to y'all for knowing first, because I'm a fan now. I say I'll go to a show like I'll go like. Yeah. And what happens at the Super Bowl halftime is a reflection of the zeitgeist. They don't try to move the country in a certain way. The country's already there already there.

7:16It's a reflection of it. And, you know, I mean, you should have seen me. I was going nuts. I was watching with my mom and a couple of friends. And when they were up on the electrical polls. Yeah. I was like, remember, remember after her came Maria and Ryan Zinky got that shady fucking Montana, $300 million dollar contract to fix the electrical grid in Puerto Rico. And did done it, you know, and I, you know, I was like, that's that my mom's like, you're, how do you know that? You're like, I'm telling you, their grid is, you know, they are so neglected by the American government of which they are apart. And, you know, these are just little tiny things. I loved it when he gave the Grammy to the little kid watching him as to say representation matters. A lot of people thought that that was the five-year-old. That one. I thought so too. I thought so too. I saw a couple journalists that did cover it and say, no, actually, it wasn't. But no, they didn't put a hat on him. They didn't put the blue bunny hat on. Yeah. There was a way to delineate that if they, if you wanted to. But the message that representation

8:21matters. The kid is watching Bad Bunny get a Grammy on, you know, on TV and is thinking about his like that representation is there for him for his future. Just a really well done. I loved it. I personally thought it was great to shout out to them. You know, good job. Like, oh, yeah, it was a football game on too. Yeah, by the way. Go, go Hawks, right? And, you know, hats off to all the amazing, incredible people who are Patriots fans, despite what Robert Kraft and the owner did and what he's donated and what he's going to do is what that does with his planes and ice. But like, to the, like, die-hard Pats fans that are just, you know, really, really good people hats off to you too. Incredible. Great season. Hold them to three-field, four-field goals until the final fourth quarter. But I know it was a rough night for some for some Pats fans that they're not my favorite team. I like the Seahawks a little bit better. But, fuck, I'm a Browns fan. We never get to go to the ball at all. So, so you're going to live like vicariously to other teams or whatever, right?

9:25I'm just sort of, oh, I like their uniforms better. You know, whatever. Yeah, exactly. Because we never played past January, really. Yeah. But, um, wonderful halftime show. I thought it was great. All right. Before we get into the news, we do have some new patrons to thank, including Christopher Arbise, Melanie Blum, and Sally. And then our Hall of Famers, Patty B. Accidental Bird Sanctuary Founder, Lynn Bentley, Carol Hopkins, David and Brooklyn. We will survive. J. Sweef Hatig, Deborah Kirby, Dr. David and Tiffany Trump was adopted. Remember, if you become a patron, you can name yourself anything and we'll read it on the air. And you can do that at patreon.com slash aisle 45 pod AISLE45POD. Thanks for supporting independent media. We'll get to the news right after this quick break. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right, everybody. Welcome back. I am now convinced that customs and border protection and ICE officers have a higher crime rate than immigrants. And I'm pretty sure that pardoned

10:28insurrectionists commit crimes at a higher rate than immigrants. And we have a couple more examples of that just this week alone. First Jake Lang, he's the far right influencer and a US Senate candidate. He was arrested for recording himself kicking over an anti-ice sculpture at Minnesota's Capitol in St. Paul amid the immigration and customs enforcement agencies crack down there. So this guy, he's been kicked out of several bars too. He always kind of he's trying to be an influencer running for Senate. Yeah. But this guy is a, he's a terrible person. Well, if you also remember, he's the guy that during the ICE rates was they protected him for basically being stomped at a mud hole, stomped in him when he was out there counter protesting in Minnesota, the protest to, at that time, Alex Preddie's murder. So yeah, the interesting part was he was actually had the permit for the protest him and his five friends or whatever. And it was the

11:32thousands of other people who were considered the counter protesters, which I thought was weird. I was like, I feel like if you're outnumbered a thousand to one that you're probably the counter protestor, but you're right. The anti-ice protesters protected that guy from being destroyed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like you said, they commit crimes at a higher rate and they clearly don't learn because like I said, he's out there still kicking over ice sculptures and, you know, just vandalizing and just just trying to get himself seen and heard. Yeah. So the ice sculpture in front of the Capitol and St. Paul said prosecute ice and he kicked out the letters. So it said pro ice, but local authorities arrested him the same day and jailed him. He's a Florida resident. They jailed him on suspicion of criminal damage to property suspicion. He recorded himself doing it. Yeah. Uh, that's a felony. I never understood when they, I mean, I get it. Then it's an improvement guilty. Like we're watching you, dude. Like we see you. You know,

12:34we can see you right in your Camo Lulu lemons kicking over this. That was hilarious. Like I mean with the people talking about his outfit. Like, if you had a chance, go look at the video and watch it. Those Lulu. That was some comedic relief right there. Yeah. Now common defense veterans organization commissioned that sculpture and installed it on the Capitol steps there and they had permits for the display. That's why do you remember how Enrique Tario was arrested for burning a black lives matter sign on a permitted protest area, a same kind of situation, right? Except, you know, those are local DC laws within Enrique Tario. This is Minnesota, but same thing felony destruction of property. And we'll see what ends up happening to him, but he's under arrest now. Good. Yeah. And yeah, as we continue reading about these people, Andrew Take has been arrested on an outstanding. Check this out. Child sex crime charge here. Only the best

13:35people, right? He started six years old and he was taken into custody on Thursday after spending more than two weeks as a fugitive. Totally. Cool. Totally. Legal. Yeah. He was one of the more violent insurrectionists. He's bear spray and a metal whip to assault police officers on January 6th. And then he was caught. He was the guy who was caught after bragging about the incident to a honey pot who entrapped him on an online dating app. Like this woman was putting out date, hey, were you there on January 6th? I like that. And then she would like give all that information to the cops. Yeah. That was a great story. I was I remember that when that was happening, people were getting caught off of dating apps. And he was one of the individuals that was stupid. Well, he was stupid enough for being there, stupid for his actions, and stupid talking about it afterwards. So yeah. So he got caught. And he was sentenced to six years in prison. That obviously got pardoned and wiped out. Right. And now he's facing child sex charges from

14:41a previous like 2016 thing. And he's been on the lamb for two weeks. They finally caught him. That just gives me the hope, AG, that somehow like, you know, sometimes I believe in karma. Sometimes I don't like, or is it just slow, but that made me smile because it's, you know, karma catching up to. Yeah. And these guys are criminals. They're going to commit crimes again. And those pardons aren't going to help them. Now, Brian Cole, the January 6th pipe bomber has filed to say, I've been, you know, Trump's pardon covers me. So it's going to be interesting to see, to see how all that plays out. And we had a third person arrested to plead guilty. His name is Chris Moynihan. He threatened Hakeem Jeffries, like a credible death threat to Hakeem Jeffries. And he was a pardoned January 6th insurrectionist. And so he's also now in custody pleading guilty on Monday to, to these charges of threats to the minority leader. There's that the one where Mike Johnson said, oh, yeah, I'm not familiar with it. He failed to condemn it like immediately. Probably. That's what he says about everything. Yeah, it's terrible.

15:44But yeah, of course, like you said, Moynihan, he's, he pled guilty. I'm curious to see what was it a plea deal? Or was this initial, was this initial here? And we'll find out more information about that because it just played on Monday as we're recording. So probably a plea deal. Probably we're like, we have recordings of you. You did it on the internet. Like it's you. Yeah, I just hope it's not a slap on the wrist. You know, with this, with this DOJ, like, is it going to be just a slap on the wrist? Hey, okay, he pled guilty. We'll give him a month. Like, come on now. Depends on what judge he gets to. Think it to reject that, don't they? Yeah, and they do. But also, you know, you've got to remember a lot of these judges that are appointed by Republican or by Democrats usually go easier on the sentencing guidelines. And the Republican judges. And we used to, we used to praise that. We used to be like, heck yeah, but, you know, now, you know, when the judges are sentencing these seditious conspiracists to nine years when they should be getting 30 or 40.

16:50I remember they were going to Biden's DOJ was going to file to rethink those sentences, but they all got pardoned. Yeah, we definitely saw a lot of that. And a lot of the officers, myself included, were angry at a lot of the like the sentencing memo or the sentencing guidelines would say 25 to 30 years. And they'd be like, oh, here's like 16 or 12, yeah, 12 in some cases. So yeah. And that's, you know, for a long time and still for depending on the crime, right? Judges should have that discretion. But if you're making death threats to the, you know, minority house leader, that should probably warrant a more stringent. Absolutely, especially because like I said, he's already, he's what's it called recidivism? Is that the term when you, he's already, you know, committed crimes, violent ones at that. So yeah, we'll also get to see them fight that their previous crime that was pardoned by Trump shouldn't count toward their

17:51sentencing guidelines because, you know, it, you get longer if you're a, if you have priors, you get a longer sentence. But that's the thing. It's not exposed. She just, it's time-served kind of thing. It's like, all right, you're done. So we'll see that on your record. Yeah. I would love to see how that's litigated. Yep. Me too. And I, I don't know what's going to come out the way we want. It usually never does. But, but we'll see and we'll keep an eye on it for you. All right. We have an update on Trump suing himself for $10 billion. We can talk about that after this break. Stick around. Crazy. It's so dumb. I just, I can't like, oh, he's, and he keeps doing it. We're going to talk about it. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right, everybody. Welcome back. Okay. So last week we talked about Trump suing himself for $10 billion to loot the treasury through friendly lawsuits. He's suing the government. He controls over a contractor at IRS leaking his tax returns to the New York Times. And he's not

18:56suing to go to trial. He's likely looking for his IRS commissioner, his buddies, who at the moment is his six IRS commissioner six Scott Besson, the treasury secretary, the guy who's covering up Epstein's finances. Yeah. Complete adventures there. We'd little bit. Yeah. Hey, Scott, my six, the IRS commissioner. And I can't help but wonder whether that's why all the other IRS commissioners kept quitting. Maybe Trump was like, I'm going to sue for $10 billion and you need to give it to me. Seems legit. Maybe could be one of any, I mean, there's so many corrupt things that he wants the IRS to do. That's just one of them. Maybe they wouldn't agree to that $10 billion payout, but maybe percent will. But regardless, the story today, the update we have is that representative Mike Thompson, he's a Democrat from California's fourth district ranking member of the Houseways and mean subcommittee on tax. He announced legislation to prevent a sitting president from profiting from lawsuits against the United States government. Seems like a no-brainer.

19:59Quote President Trump continues to use the office of the presidency for personal gain, including by suing the federal government to line his own pockets. That's unacceptable. That's why I'm introducing legislation that ensures if a sitting president sues our government while in office, they get taxed 100% on any money paid to them through a trial or a settlement. The president holds immense responsibility and influence. It's unacceptable for a president to use that position to financially benefit from the very government they were elected to lead. Yeah, I assume legit. This legislation would add a new provision to the internal revenue code imposing 100% tax on any civil judgment or settlement paid by the United States to a sitting president or the president's immediate family. That's very important. In this case, because Donald Trump loves to enrich his family, but this is if the legal action was filed while the president was in office, it will be formally introduced into the House of Representatives this week. What do you see happening in this A.G.? I see Mike Johnson not knowing anything about it.

21:05That's right. For a vote. But it makes sense. Because when Trump was asked what you would do with him, he's like, I'm going to donate it to charity and the reporters like, yeah, but it's still coming from the taxpayers. It's still coming from our taxpayer money. You know, you don't understand. It goes back to, they're good to give it to charity and you're forcing them to give $10 billion to a chair. Is it the Trump foundation? Because you're not supposed to run that anymore. But I'm glad you brought up the family members too, because a lot of the sons, the two adult sons were implicated in those from, you know, the Trump organization by the Trump organization tax returns. So this guy's name is little John, the guy, the IRS contractor who leaked all the stuff. He's already been in trouble. And now, now Donald Trump wants us to give him $10 billion that he gets to keep. Yeah, that's insane. I am, like I said, I never have any confidence in the Republican led house at this moment. But I do think that there may be three or four members who would say,

22:09you know what? This is your right. We can't, because what's the stop the next Democratic president from suing? Like you've sending a precedent. And I feel like there are enough, when I say enough, three out of 200. Well, I hope that's my hope. And I, you never know, because member pretty much all of the Republicans in the house were like no Lindsey Graham. You can't sue Jack Smith for a million dollars. But that was the Graham. This is Donald Trump, which to who they're all scared of. So Donald Trump is like, how dare you? This is my money. So Donald Trump might see it as a swipe of them coming after his pocket book, which, which, yes. So I don't know. But I think, you know, messy might be one, because he's already on Donald Trump's bad side. There's a lot of people leaving that don't, that aren't running for reelection. Yeah. That might be willing to do it. We'll see. Also, from Adam Klausfeld, Donald Trump's attempt to remove his appeal of his 34 felony convictions in New York to federal court following his sentencing appears to be fated for another

23:11defeat. I think this is like the third time. Quote, I think we're beating a dead horse. That's senior US district judge, Alvin Hellerstein. That's during a three hour oral argument, swatting away arguments by Trump's lawyer on a threshold issue. Trump's criminal convictions have been at a historic stain on his presidency that he struggled to erase. The jury found that Trump repeatedly falsified business records to cover up hush money payments to stormy Daniels from the voting public in an attempt to influence the 2016 election. Removing the case to federal court would hand Trump a rare victory in his crusade to discredit his criminal prosecution. But the practical effects of such a transfer would be limited. Yeah, if Donald Trump succeeded in transferring this case to federal court, little would change, except the speed of his appeal. The state judgment would be entered in federal court. Trump would not be able to pardon his state conviction, but the case would have an expedited path to the Supreme Court with one intermediate stop before the second circuit instead of two more state appellate courts. Judge Hellerstein seems exceedingly unlikely

24:17to give Trump that fast track. The judge rejected Trump's attempts to transfer his case twice in the past before trial and months after his criminal conviction. Yeah, after the second denial, the second circuit court of appeals sent the case back to Hellerstein finding that he should have explained why the Supreme Court's immunity ruling did not grant Trump access to a federal forum. The Supreme Court's ruling found that no evidence relating to a president's official acts in office can be used against him. Now during oral arguments Wednesday, Hellerstein left little doubt that he's going to reject Trump's efforts a third time on multiple grounds. First, he indicated that Trump waived his right to transfer the case to federal court by first choosing to litigate the fallout of the Supreme Court immunity's decision in state court. That's a strategic decision said the 92-year-old jurist. Wow, he's still competent. I guess it sounds like it. The Supreme Court's immunity decision came down on July 1, roughly 10 days before Trump's original sentencing date and his defense

25:21challenged the case before Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchand. With an adverse state court ruling imminent, Trump filed his second removal request nearly 60 days later after the statuary 30-day clock expired. Oops. Hellerstein said that Trump's lawyer were seeking second bite of the apple after losing in New York the big apple, which is which the removal statute doesn't allow. I know I wish he said a second bite of the big apple. That would have been good. I just thought that just quickly over feet like that. Yeah, that would have been a good one. Yeah, Hellerstein, if you're not saying second bite of the big apple, what are we even doing here? So Trump already filed his opening brief to overturn his convictions with New York's appellate division first department. That's the state's intermediate appellate court. They have different names for their courts. The Supreme Court is the low court and then the appellate division is there. It's a lot of it's weird there, but this was the intermediate appellate court. And the judgment against Trump has been entered already at the trial court level. So for Hellerstein,

26:24that forms a separate basis to reject Trump's efforts to transfer the case to federal court. He said, here's there's nothing for me to do. He said, there's nothing to do. Trump's appeal has focused on that finding and challenging the calling of witnesses like former White House communication director, Hope Hicks, and ex director of Oval Office operations, Madeline Westerhout, the defense also contests the admission of certain social media posts by Trump. I mean, the ones that like our public everywhere. They want, he's trying to say they were official president business. And so it can't be used against him because of immunity. And he's lost on this so many times, but he keeps trying. Yeah. Trump's lawyer, Jeffrey Wall, a partner at the firm Sullivan and Cromwell noted that prosecutors called Hicks testimony, the nail in the coffin of the defense. Yeah. Unfortunately, judges have already found that the conviction would have been the same without Hope Hicks testimony without using his tweets.

27:29The Manhattan District Attorney's appellate lawyer, Stephen Wu noted that these witnesses and exhibits referred to Trump's private acts toward the end of oral arguments, hellerstein noted that Trump is not above the law. Well, yeah, he is though kind of. If the appellate process continues in New York state court, instead of federal court, Trump's convictions will face two more levels of review before the appellate division in the court of appeals, which is New York's highest court, the Supreme Court would not have the option to review the New York court of appeals decision, the Supreme Court being the Supreme Court of the United States. Hellerstein reserved decision on the matter, but he'll let us know soon. And it's again, it seems unlikely. The dude said, I think we're beating a dead horse and you're not above the law. I have a feeling he's kick him to the curb again. But, you know, we'll see him kicking eye on it. Everybody should be following Adam Klausfeld, by the way, on these cases. Donald Trump, I'll tell you what he always does. He's always going to fight everything.

28:29He fights everything. Yeah, with our money. Yeah, exactly. I hate him so much. All right. We've got Rudy and the pillow man to tell you about coming up here in the D block. But we have to take this one last quick break. So stick around. We'll be right back. All right, everybody. Welcome back after months of absence from the D block. We have a rare update for both Rudy and the pillow man. We are back with Rudy and the pillow man. We need, we need like a, a weird, sad, buddy cop TV show intro and a theme song for this right here. Absolutely. For the D block. But let's start with the pillow man. This is from the Wisconsin examiner, Mike Lindell's memoir. What are the odds from crack addict to CEO? That's his book has enjoyed a new surge of sales since he announced a run for governor

29:31late last year. Who's buying the book, which details his addictions and rise to fame, his campaign, his campaign for Minnesota governor is buying all the books. Something was fishy there. Something was fishy. I knew something was coming. You know, Lindell, the CEO of my pillow, spent more than half the money he raised for his campaign buying copies of his own book, according to Minnesota campaign finance board data release Tuesday. This is so sad and pathetic. I can't even, I don't know. He's half his campaign money. He knows he can't win for governor. He's running. I bet he's running so we can buy copies of his own book. I bet like that might be the whole game. It sounds like it. So Lindell launched his campaign on December 11th, 2025. And in about two and a half weeks, he raised $352,000 in individual donations. Hey, Harry, how much did you raise in the first 24 hours of your campaign? 500,000. Can't just check out. Did you buy your own book with all that money?

30:33No, no, I have not. No, I have not. I can guarantee you that. I have not. And I will not You haven't thought about it. Come on. One penny will not be spent $500,000 worth of books, man. You'd be. I just read my story. I'll do it for free. Like I'll read you my story, man. People that want to hear it need to hear it. Oh my God. Now in December, the Lindell campaign bought nearly $190,000 worth of his autobiographies from my pillow. Lindell's campaign finance report lists the expenses as advertising general Mike Lindell books. Oh my God. So he put it in writing that he bought his own books. Reached by phone, Lindell said instead of typical campaign flyers, he's giving out his book. He said my pillow owns the books and that my pillow is employee owned. Ah, all right. So his employees own my pillow. My pillow bought all these books and he's using them as campaign flyers. That's his explanation. When we're going around all these places in

31:36Minnesota, other people are giving flyers. I'm giving them a whole book so they know who I am. Oh my gosh. I mean, he's got an excuse for it, but he's an idiot. Do you ever have that adjunct professor who's like, and the required reading for this semester is my book. Of course it is. Of course it is. So yeah. You know, but but but also we've got another dumb story, another dumb guy or another dumb guy story coming. Yeah. It's a good story. It's a dumb guy. But so we got pillow man. What's up with Rudy? What's up with his partner Rudy? So this Rudy update. All right. This is from courthouse news. A $10 million work place harassment claim in which Rudy Giuliani stands accused of demanding sex from an employee will move forward to discovery. A Manhattan judge said on Monday. Now, while New York Supreme Court Justice Nicholas Moyne reserved ruling fully on Giuliani's bid to dismiss the case, the judge acknowledged

32:37the defense's team conceded to one of the causes of the action in the 68 page complaint. That means regardless of if of his impending ruling, at least part of the case will proceed. Uh-oh. Okay. We're going to be moving forward with discovery, Moyne said. Ah, now this is where the details come out. Rudy conceded to one of the causes of action. Yeah. Some of some things going forward. Something's true here. All right. Content warning here. You don't remember this. We talked about this. Her name's Noel Dunphy. We talked about this a lot during when we were covering the case against Rudy brought by a shame awesome Ruby Freeman because this case kind of happened during those proceedings. Noel Dunphy brought the case against the former mayor in 2023. She claims while working for Giuliani between 2019 and 2021 he frequently subjected her to booze and viagra fueled sexual harassment that culminated with him forcing her into sex. Quote, he held her by her hair. Dunphy claims in the complaint. According to Dunphy,

33:42Giuliani also owes her about two million dollars in unpaid wages after renegging on a promise to pay her a million dollars a year in salary. Wow. But while arguing for the case of dismissal Monday, Giuliani's lawyer said Dunphy never even worked for Giuliani. Rather, he said they dated for a few months and that Giuliani never seriously offered her such gaudy pay. Adam Katz who represents Giuliani and Giuliani's corporate entities pointed to Dunphy's relatively limited business acumen when compared with her supposed duties under Giuliani, which included advising him on the Foreign Agents Restriction Act. A law Katz said is so complex. Many judges and attorneys struggled to grasp it. The phara for foreign and that's okay. It says if you lobby for a foreign entity, you have to report it to the DOJ there. I have summed up the entire story. It's registration act for you. It's very complex. But the judge suggested the motion to dismiss stage is too soon

34:45to question Dunphy's credibility in that way. Quote, what you're saying is maybe she's not qualified to do that. Moine said, there's potentially a lot of holes you can poke in that story. But again, we're not really at the poking holes stage. Now, one of the ways Giuliani pressured Dunphy into sex and again, content warning here was by abusing his position as her lawyer and her boss, she claims. In one instance, she accuses Giuliani of offering her $300,000 if she would forego her legal rights in a pending case and quote, fuck me like crazy, unquote. That statement was recorded by Dunphy. It's on tape. Rudy's attorney Katz said Monday, there's nothing inappropriate with an attorney having a relationship with a client to which Moine said, I think I would disagree. Wait a minute. This is okay, guys. Giuliani, of course, did not attend Monday's hearing. Of course. Last time he joined the cases proceedings in a 2024 E hearing, Moine cut Giuliani's

35:48microphone on several occasions as the former mayor lobbed the tactic against his accuser and claimed this case was an injustice. Mr. Giuliani, I'm muting you, Moine said at the time. I was hoping you could abide by the guidelines, but you can't do this. Remember that? Remember when the judge was like muted. I mute you. Shut up, Rudy. I'm not a cat, Your Honor. I'm not a cat. Oh my gosh, the greatest moment. We have a filter on zoom. Zoom history. My gosh, I'm not a cat. So this gets to go forward, at least on one count, conceded by Rudy Giuliani himself. Yeah, and I mean, the argument that there's nothing untoward about a lawyer having a relationship with a client and for your defense to be like, she's too stupid to advise me. Like, wow. That's kind of way. Yeah, so you hired someone too stupid to do the work and forced

36:50them to have sex. That's a way better story for you, sir. Absolutely. No, it's not. So we're going to keep an eye on this, Rudy's. We love Rudy news. So never seem to end. And that's good. I hope his life sucks ass until it's over. Yeah. Have the day you deserve Rudy. Seriously, just people keep coming after him and coming after him because he's a terrible, awful, horrible, crimey, disgusting person and pillow man. Now I'm thinking, like, should I write a book and run for office and buy a bunch of my own book and then write off into the sunset with my 7,000 copies of my own book. I think it would sell your book would sell without you without you having to run for office because you're awesome. I know, but think of all the books I could buy. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, there's nothing wrong with run for office to buy your own book. Oh, my God. We give him out his campaign flyers.

37:52You can read a whole book about my crack addiction and how it became the CEO of a company that went bankrupt. Yeah. Yeah. You can buy us from the ashes, pillow man. All right. Thank you all so much again for listening. Really appreciate you. Really appreciate your feedback. And to Harry, Tom, where everybody can go to, you know, support. Yeah. Harry done for MD, the number four or spell out for, um, doesn't matter. MD.com. Really appreciate your support. It's, it's encouraging. And while I'm doing something crazy, like running for Congress, though, y'all all support me. Either let's me know that y'all look crazy too. I'm not as crazy as I think I am for doing it. So I appreciate all. Let's hear it for imposter syndrome. All of us being like, I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm doing it. And then everybody's like, we love that you're doing it. Yeah. We're all just sort of in the same boat. And I love it. So thank you all. I really appreciate you. Harry done for MD.com.

38:57You're the best. All right. Um, we're going to keep you, uh, tethered to your podcast studio for as long as we can. That's right. And yes, I will be here still showing up in your ears, um, as long as I can, um, as long as they'll let me. But yes, I will, I will definitely be here because it's as important to me. Awesome. And you're important to us, Harry. You are. Thank you so much for doing this. It's brave and it's awesome. And it needs to be done. Thank you. Do in the work, putting in the work. Like all of us are every day. Uh, thank you all so much. We'll to see you next week. Uh, if you're a patron, we'll see you, uh, the bonus this weekend. Thank you and, uh, you know, I just hope everybody takes a little time for themselves and, uh, you know, make sure you rest to refuel and recharge for, for the fight ahead because it's a big and, yeah. We'll all be there right behind you. We got your six. Well said. All right. We'll see you next week. I'm Allison Gil. Harry done. Thanks, y'all. Clean up on our 45 is written research and produced by Allison Gil with editing by Molly Hockey.

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