Episode 263 | The Devil Went Down to Georgia

0:00M-S-W-Media So yeah, now it's clean up on IL-45 time and for a long while, yeah, it is going to be clean up on IL-45. Hey everybody, welcome to episode 263 of Clean Up on IL-45. It's Wednesday, February 4th, 2026. I'm Allison Gill. What's up? It's Harry Dunne here. All right. Today, we're going to discuss a group of January 6th prosecutors who have written a memo to Congress offering them advice. Good, good, good there. On how to investigate the murder of Renee Good and Alex Prety in Minneapolis and Donald Trump suing the IRS for $10 billion, be with a B dollars? Toin himself. Plus, we'll talk about the massive failures of the Department of Justice as they pertain to the release of the Epstein files. As a matter of fact, they inadvertently or maybe inadvertently released a bunch of photos of

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2:10becoming a patron. They are a lot of fun. Yeah, you can become a patron at patreon.com slash Al 45 pot a I S L E 45 P O D. And check Harry Dunn's social media feeds today because there's news that's going to happen. Check it out. Y'all, I hope you're paying attention and listening. That's the that's the teaser and the spoiler, not a spoiler, but a teaser that I'm giving you. Check out all my socials and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's can't tell you what it is. Yeah. The show comes out. Yeah, we're recording too early, y'all. So stay tuned for us to say. Yeah. But today you're going to learn something amazing about Harry Dunn. All right. Let's talk about the news. First up from CBS. This is pretty cool. Half a dozen former US capital insurrection prosecutors who helped lead the largest criminal prosecution in American history have crafted a strategy memo to prompt Congress to investigate potential misconduct by federal

3:14immigration agents. It's a four page memo. It was obtained by CBS News on Sunday and it details a series of investigative recommendations for congressional committees to probe the allegations of excessive force and other violations by US immigration and customs enforcement agents in Minneapolis and and also customs and border protection. The group of prosecutors recommends congressional investigators use some of the same tools and techniques employed by the justice department between 2021 and 2025 and investigating the Capitol siege during which more than 140 police officers were injured and more than 1500 defendants were arrested. Yeah. Well, I love to see this. The recommendations were shared with the ranking members of the House Homeland Security Committee. The House Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee in the wake of the killings of Renee Good and Alex Prattian Minneapolis, the Justice Department declined to open an investigation of the agent who shot and killed Good while they were criticized for equivocating about

4:16investigation and investigation into Pratt's killing. Did you notice how they are they set with the ranking members? Y'all know the ranking members are the minority party. They're in this case to Democrats. Why didn't they share it with the oversight the chairs because they have no interest in obviously doing this, right? Yeah, I mean, you can read it if you want, but yeah, Jim Coburn, Jim Jordan here, how you know, have a party. Yeah. But these former prosecutors, each of whom departed the Justice Department in 2025 after Trump's inauguration, recommended Congress higher a group of former FBI and Homeland Security agents who are familiar with use of force policies. So we've got former prosecutors telling Congress to hire former FBI agents and former DHS agents to help them with their use of force investigation. Well, you benefit from the fact that many career agents and prosecutors have already left the FBI

5:18in the Department of Justice or plan to do so. Many will be willing to join you in this effort. There's going to be no shortage of volunteers, right? Yeah. And once you've organized the team, they said, divide your investigation into general categories of misconduct, including potentially offenses against detained migrants, offenses against non-detain migrants, offenses against protesters and observers, and flouting the flaunting of court orders. I think they meet flouting. Flouting. They're like a disregarding them. Yeah. The prosecutors memo comes amid concern that the Trump administration is not vigorously pursuing leads into Minneapolis, Minneapolis killings, and other related allegations of misconduct involving federal immigration enforcement personnel. The Department of Justice has no apparent interest in investigating CBP and ICE crimes. So we'll fall to Congress to do a comprehensive national investigations into these agencies misconduct, Brendan Ballout, one of the six former prosecutors who issued the memo told CBS news.

6:19Also, by the way, Brendan Ballout is my attorney representing in the plaque, a lawsuit. And so Brendan Ballout is fantastic. By preserving evidence now, Congress can tear prosecutions in the future, which in turn will discourage CBP and ICE misconduct in the present. Yeah, I'm not sure it will, but I mean, you know, you got to do something. The group of former January six prosecutors also recommended that Congress solicit tips, videos, and photos of potential ICE and customs and border protection misconduct from the public. That's kind of like what Jacob Frye and Tim Walls did. In their memo, the prosecutors said the Minneapolis killings and other episodes of alleged misconduct have triggered public revulsion that is parallel to the anger and outrage after the Capitol insurrection. The memo also recommends Congress should partner with quote cooperative, local, and state law enforcement to enable sharing of information and search the social media profiles of the known officers involved, as well as the victims themselves to determine their

7:24culpability. Sounds pretty good. I'm on board so far. Here's all the things we did to have 100% conviction rate. If for January 6th, why don't you try it? Absolutely. The former prosecutors said Congress should also send preservation requests to Google and other technology companies for geofence data on potentially nearby witnesses. The historic January 6th prosecutions were fueled by hundreds of tips from the public, including for volunteers who scoured the many images and videos from the riotous attack on the Capitol to determine the potential identities of the people involved. The Justice Department secured, like you said, a 100% conviction rate in jury trials against the Capitol attackers. Yeah, so might be good to listen to these guys. As we know, Trump reversed the success of the Justice Department by grant and clemency to more than 1,500 of his supporters who were convicted or charged in relation to the Capitol riot. In his pardon, the president said prosecutors were quote, grave national injustice that has been

8:27the prosecutions. Excuse me. We're a grave national injustice. It has been perpetrated upon the America people over the last four years. So this is great. I love this so much because I was like, and then I started thinking, well, maybe you know how Jack Smith and Tim Heafy and a couple of other guys just set up a law firm. Like, maybe they can help. I'm here for it. Yeah, DOJ is not going to do anything. So all these former DOJ people are like, maybe Congress can do something. Here's how we got a 100% conviction rate investigating January 6th. Yeah. We're pretty good. Hey, follow this roadmap right here, right? And hired disgruntled former DHS and FBI people too. I like that the most. I like that the most because they're like, oh, hell yeah, let's stick it to these guys. Yeah, because I've been wondering like, what could all these former amazing people who've been pushed out of their careers at Department of Justice FBI? What can they do? And DHS too, you know, like they said, use of force experts there. And actually today, a bunch of former DHS lawyers,

9:34like people who were general counsel for DHS, wrote a big long op-ed in the New York Times saying that DHS, you're not supposed to use administrative warrants to break down people's doors and go in their houses without consent. So there, there's a lot of participation from all of these former officials and career prosecutors and lawyers. And I think that that's, that's fantastic. And I'm just sort of crossing my fingers a little bit that Jack Smith's new private law firm gets involved. That would that would be incredible. But that's just it's just so good. Like it's like Brendan Ballou, like reference in this story, being my attorney, he just said, we still got so much to do. We can't just sit on the sidelines and just let these people have their way, especially from the career prosecutors, the people that actually believe in the rule of law and actually doing the right thing. This gives them an opportunity to do something. And I love it. Yeah. And pro public actually this week was able to name the two CBP agents who murdered Alex Freddie.

10:42Oh wow. And Jesse Ochoa and Raymondo Gutierrez. Wow. And per use, these aren't new recruits. It's not a training issue. These guys have been there for eight and 12 years, just like Jonathan Ross was there for 10 years. Well, see that that's goes to my point. We talked about this a lot. Why ice needs to be abolished? This isn't training issues. This is mentality issues. And you can't train your way out of a person with a mentality that I think it's okay to do what Renee Goods murder or did and Alex Freddie's murder or did. You can't train your way out of that. That's not training. No, it's systemic violence and bigotry and bullshit. So yeah, it can't be, can't be reformed. Now, I wish the Congress with its current makeup could abolish ice. They can't. They can't do that. They can defund it, though. And I hope that they do. Yeah. All right. We've got more stuff that we have to get to, including the FBI raid on Fulton County election offices. They were

11:46fucking decked, excuse me, public episode. They were effing decked out in tactical gear. You know, when I talk to Andy McCabe and he's like, yeah, that's not what we wear when we go into an office building to get papers. That was just a show put on by, by Cosh Patel. And Tulsi Gabbard was there. It's all just a big mess. And we're going to talk about that right after this break. Stick around. We'll be right back. Delete me makes it easy, quick and safe to remove your personal data online at a time when surveillance and data breaches are common enough to make everyone vulnerable. It is unsettling how easy it is to find personal information online. A name in a city can turn into an address, a phone number, and even a list of relatives in almost no time at all. That kind of exposure can lead to identity theft spam, harassment, people being targeted for simply being visible or outspoken. Now, someone who has an active online presence privacy is a big deal to me. I've watched people I know deal with doxing and harassment and it changes how you move through

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13:49delete me dot com slash cleanup code cleanup. You'll be glad you did. Okay, everybody. Welcome back. Our next story concerns the FBI raid on the Fulton County Election offices. Reuters reported last week that the FBI searched an election office in Georgia's Fulton County outside Atlanta on Wednesday, pursuing US President Trump's false claims that his 2020 election defeat was a result of widespread voting fraud. The FBI said in a brief statement that it's agents executed a warrant at the Fulton County Election Hub and Operation Center in Union City. That's a large warehouse like facility opened by Georgia officials in 2023 and called it a court authorized law enforcement activity. Court authorized long. All right. The warrant sought a number of records related to 2020 elections. The Fulton County government said in a brief statement about the search the latest in a string of actions by Trump's administration to use the justice department against his perceived enemies or to intervene in cases where he believes

14:53he was treated unfair. The FBI agents were looking to seize computers and ballots. They believe were held at the facility as a part of an investigation into possible election interference a law enforcement official told Reuters speaking on the condition of anonymity. Yeah, but apparently the justice department isn't going far enough in its weaponization efforts. They just they just demoted Ed Martin. Yay. Ed Eagle part. Who I've been calling Wackadagpa, which stands for weaponizations are assistant deputy attorney general pardon attorney. I was like, it was something. Wackadagpa. Wackadagpa. Three titles. So the stripped him of two of them and put him on like in a office somewhere else outside of main justice. And he's just the pardon attorney now. He's no longer the weaponizations are because apparently Trump is disappointed in the fact that none of his political enemies have been indicted. Now Fulton County commissioner Mo Ivory confirmed that a warrant was

15:56being served and said federal officials were collecting 700 boxes of ballots from a secure location. In a video posted on social media made from inside the election center, she accused Trump of trying to create chaos in order to benefit Republicans in the November midterm elections. In separate comments to reporters, I've recalled the federal intrusion and assault on voters. And said local officials were considering what legal recourse they might have to stop it. Quote, we know in America right now it doesn't even matter if what you are saying is the right thing. If our president wants to bring in the forces, he will. That's what she told reporters. Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard visited the site of the search on Wednesday. Word is witness giving her a highly unusual presence in domestic law enforcement that one former official called unprecedented. Well, that tracks with this administration. Word is reported that Gabbard last year formed a group of dozen of officials from across federal government, across the federal government, including the justice department that was helping her to steer Trump's

16:58drive for retribution against his perceived enemies. Now check this out. This is from The New York Times. By any measure, the FBI search of an election center in Fulton County, Georgia was an extraordinary event. Agents seized truckloads of 2020 ballots as Trump harnessed the levers of government to not only buttress his false claims of widespread voter fraud, but also tried to build a criminal case against those he believed wronged him more than five years ago. The statute of limitations is expired. What happened the next day, though, was even more unusual. And I wouldn't have used the word unusual here. I would have used maybe illegal or fuckery or there we go. That works. Swearing on the public episode, but it's fixed though. Unusual. Right. Behind closed doors, Tulsi Gabbard, DNI met with some of the FBI agents, members of the Bureau's field office in Atlanta, which is conducting the election inquiry. That's according to three people with knowledge of the meeting. People are leaking from inside and I love this. They could not say why Ms. Gabbard,

18:03who also appeared on site at the search was there, but her continued presence as raised eyebrows. Really? I don't, again, raised eyebrows unusual. Anyway, given her role overseeing the nation's intelligence agencies does not include on-site involvement in criminal investigative work. I wonder if she got tired of like Christie Known being on like the scene of everything, like in her like costumes and like Tulsi's like, I want it on that, man. Well, I think it's partially that and partially the fact that Trump has been trying to prove foreign election interference since 2020. Remember when he wanted the Pentagon to seize voting machines after the 2020 election and Rudy Giuliani. Rudy was the voice of reason in that December 18th meeting. Rudy said, no, you can't, you can't have the military sees voting machines, not unless there's foreign election interference. And right then, Sydney Powell, Donald Trump, Jeffrey Clark, Mike Flynn, they all went to work to try to gin up some fake foreign election

19:04interference so that they could send the military to seize voting machines. And he recently said, he regrets not sending the military to seize voting machines. So that's what I think he's up to with Tulsi Gabbard here is trying to fabricate some sort of foreign election interference so he can come out during the midterms and seize our voting machines. Well, that's in his will house. What occurred during the meeting was even further outside the bounds of normal law enforcement procedure. But wait, there's more. Ms. Gabbard used her cell phone to call Mr. Trump who did not initially pick up but called back shortly after the people said the president addressed the agents on speaker phone, asking them questions as well as praising and thanking them for their work on the inquiry. According to three people with knowledge of this discussions, that's insane. Like, hold on, let me call the president real quick. Hey, all right, close your eyes. Close your eyes and imagine President Biden calling the FBI agents who searched Mar-a-Lago after and saying,

20:08great job, you guys. Thanks for searching Trump's home. Can you imagine? No, no, no, I cannot. I can't imagine the outrage that that would follow it like this is insane. Right. And if Jack Smith testifies in front of Congress again and any single Republican is like, did you ever have any discussions with Joe Biden? He's like, not like Donald Trump had with the FBI agents that rated Fulton County. Like, come on. All right, this article goes on to say that the supervisor of the squad, which investigates allegations of public corruption and civil rights violations and develop the evidence for the search, primarily fielded Trump's queries. One US official said the call was fairly short, maybe a minute or so, and compared the conversation to a pep rally or a coach giving an encouraging halftime speech to his players. That person said the president gave no substantive direction to the investigators. Oh, well, it's understood. It's understood. Good job finding the fraud guys. Keep it up.

21:12Yeah. And now, and of course, now there's a whistleblower memo of highly classified information that Tulsi Gabbard is refusing to give to Congress. And I'm like, what do it has to do with this? What do it has to do with this? And Trump is is asserting executive privilege over it. And I'm like, is that the communications between Trump and Gabbard about this? I think you, well, A.G., your gut is usually right, A.G. That's where he's come to find out. And I was thinking the same thing. It probably is. And by the way, the time says here that Trump personally ordered Gabbard to go to Atlanta for the search and coordinated her actions with Andrew Bailey, one of the two deputy FBI directors according to the US official. So whoever this is, telling the New York Times about these meetings and what was said and the pep rally phone call with the FBI agents and that Trump ordered Gabbard to go to Atlanta and knows all this stuff. And I'm wondering if this is the whistleblower. This is fantastic. Anyway, yeah, White House spokesman, Davis Engel defended

22:17the administration's effort in Georgia. President Trump pledged to secure America's elections and he has tasked the most talented team of Patriots through just that. This is Mr. Engel. He added that President Trump has full confidence in his entire team. D.N.I. Gabbard and FBI director Patel are working together to implement the president's election integrity priorities and their work continues to serve him. Him. Their work continues to serve him. I didn't mess up. I read that again, y'all. The continues to serve him and the entire country. Well, it spokespersons for the Justice Department declined to comment. The FBI declined to comment on an open investigation. Yeah, except they comment on open investigations all the time. The Tisha James, Jim Comey. Yeah, everything. Uh, Lamanica McIver. I mean, come the F on. Yeah. Even for a president who has radically transformed the Justice Department and the FBI by trampling over their political independence and using them as tools for personal retribution.

23:20Given all that, Trump appears to be taking that kind of involvement to a new level rather than going to senior department or FBI officials. Trump spoke directly to the frontline agents doing the granular work of a politically sensitive investigation in which he has a large personal stake. Last month, Trump and declaring once again that the 2020 election had been stolen from him, that left little doubt of his intentions. Quote, people would be prosecuted for what they did. That's what he said in remarks that the world economic forum in Davos, Switzerland, telling a bunch of German speakers, if they've worked for me, you'd be speaking German. Oh my God. And in appearance on CNN stated a union on Sunday, the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, tonight that Mr. Trump had played any role in the search or that he had been briefed on the inquiry. I don't believe he was involved. He said, this is a criminal grand jury investigation, and I can't comment on it. That's so weird. Like you said, AG, they do all the time anyway.

24:22Yeah, I got to get their story straight first. It's what they meant. Yeah, I got to wonder what's sitting in that safe in Tulsi Gabbard's office from a whistleblower. It was so funny. The Wall Street Journal was like, her not sending this to Congress is without precedent. I'm like, no, it isn't. Do you remember? Do you remember when there was a, oh, I don't know, whistleblower report about a phone call between Zelensky and Trump and DNI McGuire at the time didn't hand it over to Congress. I believe even though Atkinson, the inspector general had had found it urgent and something that had to be turned over to Congress. The DNI withheld it. I'm like, there is not just is it with precedent. It's with it in like an exact match of the same positions involved precedent like you even being real with me right now, Wall Street Journal. And they also seem to sort of insinuate that the reason the memo is being

25:26withheld is that it's legitimately so super classified that Tulsi Gabbard is legitimately concerned about, you know, transmitting it to Congress. And they're sort of going with that narrative. Like it's so classified that it's too classified for Congress. Nothing is too classified for the gang of eight. Yeah, they can get there are skiffs. Yeah. In the capital, you the issue, that is her excuse for blocking it and executive privilege. So it's got Trump in there somewhere as well. Because only Trump can claim executive. Yeah. Anyway, or, you know, somebody who spoke to Trump. But anyway, that's not by the thing. That's a whole other tangent. Yeah. But something that's interesting about this whole phone call with Trump and the FBI search guys and people and Tulsi Gabbard is that if they're even able to bring any criminal charges based on this, which I don't think they are, I think they're just using it to justify snack and voting machines from future elections. But even if they do bring criminal charges,

26:30the statute limitations is over, which is also going to make it hard. But there's a really good case for vindictive and selective prosecution. So again, I don't think this, I don't think this investigation is about bringing any charges. I think this is invested. This is an investigation about fabricating for an election interference. Yeah. Maybe even maybe even he's going to maybe get Maduro to admit that he stole the 2020 election for Joe Biden or something. He's in custody. Yeah. It's something. But now you're you're right, though, AJ. And going back to, you know, what we said earlier, how Donald Trump's own words, people will soon be prosecuted for what they did. That's his quote. No, they really won't because like you said, the statute of limitations, they're talking about the 2020 election. Obviously, it's we're in 2026 right now. Six years later, you can't prosecute, but trumping up charges or making made up charges or whatever. But I don't think you're out of the realm of possibility. AJ, like you said, getting Maduro to even admit it. So we'll let you go and give you a million dollars if you say that you stole the election. Yeah,

27:33exactly. But you know, Trump has a long history. Well, documented of not caring about actual outcomes of investigations, just announcing them to cast down on stuff. He wanted Zelensky. He shook Zelensky down to just open investigation into barisma and the Biden's. You don't have to actually do it. Just open one. When Jeffrey Clark wanted to send his letter down to Georgia to say the DOJ has found a regularity is with your election. And therefore, we need to stop and halt and seize your voting machines and stuff. You know, he actually had a handwritten note. There was a handwritten note from that meeting that said, just open the investigation and let me and the Republicans in Congress do the rest. Yeah. Because that's right. So he was creating enough of a of a, I guess, a doubt accusation of fraud so that he could then have Mike Pence throw votes out, throw over votes out. You know, so he's got a long history of just, just say you're investigating. That's enough. That's all we need. I think we'll handle the rest.

28:39Yeah. All right. We've got more that we want to get to including a massive failures, illegal failures, the Department of Justice to release the Epstein files. Stick around. We'll be right back. All right, everybody. Welcome back. Okay. As I'm sure you've heard by now, the DOJ's made its last production of the Epstein files this past week, despite only publishing about half of the total documents they claim to have. The Times reports that the Justice Department published dozens of unredacted nude images on its website showing young women or possibly teenagers whose photos were contained in files related to the wealthy sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. As part of its required disclosure of the Epstein files, the federal government was tasked with redacting both sexually explicit imagery and information that could be used to identify victims. Yeah. The New York Times came across nearly 40 unredacted images that appeared to be part of a personal photo collection

29:39showing both nude bodies and the faces of the people portrayed. The people in the photos appear to be young. It's unclear whether they were minors. Some of the images seemed to show Epstein's private island, including a beach. Others were taken in bedrooms and other private spaces. The Times notified the Justice Department on Saturday of nude images that journalists had encountered and flagged more of them on Sunday. A spokeswoman said that the department was working around the clock to address any victim concerns, additional redactions of personally identifiable information, as well as any files that require further redactions under the act to include images of a sexual nature. Once proper redactions have been made, any responsive documents will repopulate online to spokeswoman said. This is sad. Yeah. Officials have largely removed or redacted the images that the Times flagged for them. The images appear to show at least seven different people, although the Times didn't seek to identify them. Now, Annie Farmer, who I've interviewed before,

30:40you can see that interview at mullershear.com. And she is testifying court about how she was groomed and abused as a teenager by Epstein and Gellin Maxwell. Said the news of such imagery being public was quote, extremely disturbing. She said it left her feeling naive in thinking that the government would follow the law in protecting the victims. Quote, it's hard to imagine a more egregious way of not protecting victims than having full nude images of them available for the world to download. That's what she said on Sunday. Man, this is just heart. It's disgusting. It's heartbreaking. It's just man. It's retraumatized. It really is. Although, man, other victims have expressed outrage that their names and other identifying information have been found in the files. Brittany Henderson, a lawyer for one woman who was identified in the files, even though she had not previously been linked publicly to Mr. Epstein called the redaction failures abhorrent. We are frankly shocked by the level of carelessness that this department has shown towards these women she said. Yeah, the Justice Department was supposed to release all of the Epstein files by

31:41December 19th, but missed the deadline. Yeah, missed it by a month and a half. Friday's release included not only millions of documents, but 2,000 videos, 180,000 photos. And the Justice Department said a team of more than 500 lawyers and reviewers had worked on the publication process. The redactions at times appear haphazard and contradictory with some files shielding someone's name and a duplicate file elsewhere making the name public. One email described the Epstein victim list, but then left dozens of subsequent names exposed except for one that was redacted. This is crazy. This is the stuff that they are releasing. What are the stuff that they're not releasing because this stuff is bad. My God. Some victims are angry that their information was disclosed while powerful people's names were shielded. In one case, records show a text exchange between the former Trump advisor, Steven Bannon and Mr. Epstein that referenced a news article about President Trump. An associated image of Mr. Trump appeared in the Justice Department

32:43files with their redaction box over his face. It's a big bloaty leaning forward guy in a blue coat with a long red tie and his fan. You're like, who's that guy? Hey, who's that? This is terrible, man. So as I learned when I spoke to FBI agents when they were the ones initially reviewing these files, they don't care about the survivors. They don't care about redacting the perpetrators. They can't. Yeah, Donald Trump. I'll say Donald Trump, but yes, that's it. I just the amount of retraumatization to have been a victim of Epstein and Maxwell, and now to have been a victim of the Department of Justice releasing nude photos of you to the public. It's just heartbreaking. It is. We'll keep an eye on this and we'll see if the survivors, I don't know if they file suit. I don't know. We'll see, but we'll keep an eye on it for you.

33:44All right, we've got one more story that we have to go over, but we're going to take one last quick break so everyone stick around. We'll be right back. Okay, everybody. Welcome back. Our final story that we're going to cover this week comes from Reuters. Donald Trump on Thursday sued the US Treasury Department and the IRS for $10 billion dollars over the disclosure of his tax returns to the media in 2019 and 2020. In a complaint filed in Miami federal court, Trump, his adult sons, his adult son is crotch fruit and his namesake company. The Trump organization said the agencies failed to take mandatory precautions to prevent the former IRS contractor Charles Little John from leaking their tax returns to leftist media outlets, including the New York Times and pro-publica. The plaintiff said they suffered significant and irreparable harm to their reputations and financial interests and may seek punitive damages because the leaks were either willful or

34:49resulted from gross negligence. Hey, Jay, real quick, though, like, let me, let me ask you something with, with Trump suing them for $10 billion. Now, this just goes back to the story that we just did, right? Like, what? Now, now, is that, is this saying that the people who's nude images were just leaked or willfully or negligently released? Can they sue for $10 billion? The DOJ? Right. That's a good question. That's a good question. Thursday's lawsuits put Trump in the unusual position of suing government agencies that are a part of the executive branch, which he leads. It's suit of self. It's suit of self. Thursday's complaint, Trump and the other plaintiffs said the New York Times published at least eight articles in pro-publica, published at least 50 articles based on Little John's disclosures. The leaks caused plaintiffs, reputational and financial harm, public embarrassment, unfairly tarnished their business reputations, portrayed them in false light and negatively

35:51affected President Trump and the other plaintiffs, public standing according to the complaint. Now, prosecutors charged Little John in September of 2023 with leaking tax records and not just of Trump, but thousands of other wealthy Americans to the media, saying he was motivated by a political agenda. Little John, who was 40, pled guilty the following month to disclosing income tax return information without authorization and was sentenced in January 2024 to five years in prison. So, something else this also reminds me of Harry is, I mean, he sues himself a lot. He sued Texas. There's a law down in Texas he didn't like. So, he sued Texas and him and Greg Abbott kind of conspired to settle to get rid of the law. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I think of the Ashley Babitt law settlement, you know, was Trump like, hey, sue me for five million and I'll give it to you. Yeah, yeah. He filed an administrative complaint,

36:52like a lawsuit with the Department of Justice asking for monetary compensation for Jack Smith's prosecution. So, he's just stealing our money. That is exactly what he's doing. And nobody, no, where are the guardrails? They don't. There are none. Or Lindsey Graham, but like, he's about to shut down the government because he wants to still be able to sue the government for a million dollars for his toll records. She's this guy. It's just like, that's the latest thing is suing a Trump and the government suing themselves and paying them and settling with themselves. That's the new way of getting rich now. It's just so the government. It's just so us. We won't say no. Yeah, it's, that's really, that's really frustrating. I'm not sure. I mean, I guess the one saving grace is there will be a judge involved. He did filing in Miami, though. Yeah. I'm about to say that was intentional, obviously. He found a fit.

37:58Is that, is that where, um, who's his new favorite judge done? I lean Canon. Canon, she's in Fort Pierce. Okay. But I think she's part of the Miami division. I'd have to look into it. Anyway, it's very frustrating. Very. But we'll keep an eye on that lawsuit for you as well. All right, my friend. I'm really excited about your announcement later today. Yep. Yep. Watch it. Watch it. No, no, no. Yeah. Watch my socials. Watch my socials. So watch this space. Got some information coming. Yeah. Watch this space. I like that. And thanks all for listening. Thanks to our patrons as well. At, you know, public episodes always free. But we appreciate your support. And again, if you'd like to join us on those happy hour calls, there's so much fun. And you get to ask us questions and, um, you know, air grievances. It was kind of a great opportunity for everyone to be like, yeah, this isn't okay. And I'm not okay. And that's okay. And a place where you won't be gaslit or have anyone tell you

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