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Lori Garver spent years inside NASA making an argument most of the agency didn't want to hear: that commercial partnership wasn't a compromise, it was the strategy. On this episode of The Puck, Jim sits down with the former NASA Deputy Administrator to unpack how that case got built and sold from the inside — what institutional resistance actually looks like, and where she sees the current moment: a commercial-background NASA administrator, private capital flooding the sector, and real geopolitical competition for orbit and beyond.
The conversation doesn't stay in space — it moves through what NASA's procurement playbook gets right that healthcare gets wrong, and into a candid take on fixing Social Security.
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