01-2-Up with Harry and Mike

0:00All the seats are taken in the house, that makes the rules. All the seats are taken in the parliament of fools. Welcome, to up with Harry Palmer. And Mike Holt is your independent government free patriot weekly broadcast to the people of Australia, presented by Ken's news radio, the People's Factual Media Service. Welcome to the show, Mike, here at Hellaya. Oh, I'm bloody good, thank you, man. A long time since we've done this, and I'm exactly at the back doing it again, we've made a good time before my health got harder than we last time, and I couldn't do any more about it, but, uh, we send the radio back and, back him in good health again. So, uh, yeah, well, time to start firing a few rounds

1:00off into the right direction, I think. So, we decided we'd have a little chat about the TIX department. So, what was it like to know? Well, I just, I think you've done a bit of research, I've got a lot of stuff that I've come in with a different way to use. So, I think we'll let you keep it off, Mike. Um, and then I'll find us through with what goes from me. All right, well, the first thing I think to do for the listener is to go onto my website, at cihrnow.com.au, and up the top right of the menu, there's a little magnifying glass, if you click on that and search for ATO, I have a few articles in there, but there's a not interesting one in here called updated information on the validity of the ATO, and does it really exist? So, we're not a bit of that here, gone. Right, and down on the text below, it says, here is an affidavit by Anthony Wallace, an officer within the ATO Australia that proves the fraud.

2:01And basically, he said, by virtue of my office, and my duties as an officer of the ATO, I prepared the reply to Mr. Douglas Cameron's letter on 18th of February, 1999, blah blah blah. I search for and cause searches to be undertaken, blah blah blah. I search the ATO's computerized file marketing system for files referring to the creation of the ATO is the kicker. But I was unable to identify any relevant files. I think I've done an extensive search of the ATO's national office's library. I was assisted in this class by Karen Moore, one of the ATO's librarians, and I contacted the Commissioner of the Records Management Section of the ATO and asked him if he was aware of any files that relate it to the establishment of the ATO. He told me they had no knowledge of any such files, and that he was unable to identify any such files when he searched the section's manual card indexed.

3:03And it goes on. So in other words, everybody he spoke to was unable to identify any documents that are attested to the formation of the ATO as a legal entity. So why don't we just start there? He's a good spot, a great spot. All right, stop it to him. Yeah, so the ATO itself actually is an on-entity. It's, I suppose you might call it a ledges that they branch up the government, but where's the legislation? There doesn't appear to be any. How did it generate in the first place? Well, during World War II, they needed money to fund the war. So they should have gone to the Commonwealth Bank like they did in the First World War, but that's another story. And they brought in an Australian taxation income tax. Now it was only supposed to last until the end of the war, but the politicians saw how much money they raped in

4:04and they thought, guess what? Oh, all that lovely money sitting there, what shall we do with it? I know. I have big pockets and we can keep the ATO going and keep making money. And that's what they'd been doing ever since. I've got you done found it, haven't I? You have. I'm sitting here standing amazed in the standard. It doesn't surprise me because this is the way that the governments have worked. We've probably got the worst governments in history now, but we go right back to square one. They weren't a great deal, different, just probably more sophisticated. Perhaps not even so more sophisticated. We just didn't have the communications power like the internet that we have today and the phone system. And so most people back then were totally unaware of the French and Anagas, the government was engaging in. But the fact is, it's all shenanigans from the word go. It was the same thing with the pensions. Oh, of course it was.

5:04That's terrible. So they set it up in 1947. The pension act by 1952 or three, they saw all that lovely money and moved it into the general ribbon. You had started stealing it. It turned out money. And it's still being deducted. Yeah, yeah. OK, now the first thing we need to do after we understand that the ATO has no legal basis is we've got to stop giving the ATO our information. How do we do that? We don't report. We don't have to tell the ATO the money we're making. They just demand it. And you can just sit back and say, ah, no, that's private information. I'm not bound to give that to you. Go away. Now, over the last couple of years, I've been working with various people. And we've come up with a couple of ways to stop paying taxes, fines, and everything else. And they're both legal. Now, the first one is the Bill's of Exchange Act 1919.

6:06Do you know anything about that, Harry? No, no. All right, so in 1919, they passed the Bill's of Exchange Act, which basically authorised the government and the banks on how to make money. And I mean, literally create money. Was that a pretty first? Yeah, it was. Basically, it was a free pass. Let's take the money. And so we came up with this Bill's of Exchange Act and we realised that just like when you sign a check, your signature creates the value on that piece of paper. As we do. Right, and then data. That's just a piece of paper. Now, what brought this home to me very clearly was back in the 70s, where I used to go down to the surface paradise hotel. And on the weekends, they used to have the Whitton T-shirt contest. And the girl who won it. Yeah, I know, it was good parts. But the girl who won it would get her check written

7:08on the back of the T-shirt. I guess she had to drive it out for this. So you can write a check on anything. So when the government, any department of the government including insurance, taxation, what do you call council taxes, all of this, anytime they send you a piece of paper with a monetary demand, that is what we call a presentment. Now, a presentment has absolutely no legal authority or power. It's just a demand for you to pay them some money. And if you're silly enough to do so, well, they have luck to you and good luck to them. So what do we do? When we get a bill or a presentment, it's a blank check. So all we do is we write on that blank check. The word is hang on a second. I'll bring up the actual wording for you. And it's very simple.

8:08Pay to the order of all. And then you put the bill as a name, exactly as it's on the bill. The next line, without recourse, the next line, by endorses. And you put your signature and the date. And then underneath that, you write your first and middle of the house's surname. And then underneath that, you write endorser, comma, general executor. Now, that all sounds very complex. But actually, you don't have to write all that. As long as you sign and date that bill and send it back, that is a bill of exchange. Yes, it is. Now, if you don't believe me, you can walk into a car dealer. And after negotiating with them, that they will accept a bill of exchange, because you explain to them how to do so, they sign the car purchase order. And they take that to the bank. And the car dealer can get paid in four ways. He can deposit it into his account,

9:08and wait the usual seven to 28 days for the money to be deposited by the bank. You can deposit it in the bank and discount it, say, three or five percent and get your cash immediately. You can put it on your books as an asset, or you can trade that bill of exchange with other companies as a financial instrument, right? So, when the government sends you a bill, and you sign and date it and send it back to them, they can get their money out of the finance ministry. Any government organization can always get their money from the finance industry. That's correct, they do too. Yeah. So, when they send you a bill for rates or a fine, or tax, or whatever, just through a bill of exchange on it, now, some taxer for tax demands are so big that it's very problematic getting the ATO

10:10to give up that money and get it from the finance ministry instead. So, what do we do? Well, I teamed up with a company over in Panama, run by a Canadian guy called Kevin J. Johnston. Now, Kevin is a bit of a radical, and he hates the taxation office. So, for the past three years, he's been dealing with the ATO, and he's saved over 300 companies, Canadian companies, from paying tax. And what he does is, if your tax bill is over 100,000, it's not worth it to him to do it for under that amount, right? So, if it's under that amount, do a V.O.E. But if it's over $100,000, Kevin and I will take your company by transferring the shares over to Kevin's company, and that takes the debt away. Then we will supply you with a fresh new company with no debt, and you continue trading. It's that simple. And there's no loss to you. The only thing you do is you pay us a percentage of the debt

11:12for taking that debt away, and it's a lot smaller than the actual debt. So, on average, if it's $100,000 debt, we charge 20%. And the more the debt, the less free we pay you. But you pay us, I'm so free. Yeah, I'm going to say that a lot, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I understand design. Yeah. So, I've come up with these solutions because I don't like dealing with criminals. And let's face it, these people in the government are criminals and traitors. So, that's what I'm up to. Right, well, let me, let me bring you in on one item you brought up about three, you wrote a check on anything for voting your son at. A very good friend of mine took his jersey care, hindered the Victorian tax action department, as a check payment was all written on the side of the care. And he got it. Left it in the foyer. And what they did, they must have been legal advice they came back and charged him for feeding the check. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

12:15Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. This is what they like. Well, I mean, here we go. The four corners last year, already before coming on, they were fair that the ATIO organization set up, it set up to protect us. It's now badly with over 50 billion, that's what a capital B billion in uncollected taxes. Yeah. Ewa Cranian, the son of the former deputy commission of tax action, has been jailed for 10 years for orchestrating a $10,000,000 tax fraud. That's the boss's son. Yeah. Well, Chris, the real problem here is that we all pay these taxes because we think we have to, when in fact, we don't. So just to get you rid on that point, the justice pine who has heard the case, he said that it kept government services and is going to increase taxes. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

13:18We're paying taxes and the good money he sells, they're taxes. I mean, it's unbelievable. Yeah. Well, when everything, too, that some people's interest, community radios started in Durant Australia. Totally little things are operated by volunteers doing a hard, best to get their finances from the public and the odd breadcrumbs from government of parliament. We're talking about a tax action department and they're no longer a tax-free. They have to pay taxes and once they can prove that they're a charity. I know that the charity constitution is a charity and only some of them got through. I mean, how ridiculous is that? Oh, it doesn't surprise me, mate. The corruption in this government is out there. Oh, we've got 50 billion. Well, obviously, that must be part of the 50 billion. The poor little tiny radio stations in the country, Danes. Yeah. No, the corruption is out of praises. And, uh, I don't know. Well, the other thing is, the other thing, too, aren't the key to more than that, is tax action department is ill by telephone. No.

14:18They do not want you to write to them because they want to talk to you directly. Now, they can't use a telephone conversation unrecorded, un-sensual and unsubstantiated and not date stamped for anything. No. So, therefore, all your communications should be with the tax action department by email. It's not hard to do. They've got an office stand in Aubrey. At a post of a spokesperson, 188 Aubrey, you say, as well, 264, uh, is rightly the commission of tax action that happens to be Rob Hepheron. Uh, and, uh, away, I told a few of the radio stations to do that. They're still running me in circles. They come back and say, I've killed the contact, it's my phone. And you just write back and say, I don't do as well. I mean, I do it emails. No. Yeah, and then just plot them at their own game. Yeah. Well, this is one thing that we tell people. Once we start doing the bills of exchange or anything to do with the ATO, we do not talk to them. We do not, uh, accept phone calls, no cases, emails, whatever. Smoke signals. We don't talk to them.

15:19We demand that they only write to us. Now, they keep on trying to ignore us. I'm dealing right now with the, um, in a service mail. Yes, my service mail, a service mail, and always, always registered. Why? Sorry. We were only, the AGL is continuing to ignore my bills of exchange and continuing to ignore my demands that they only write to me. So they keep harassing me by phone and text, email. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I ignore them. I just heard me. Leave the, ignore them. Yep. Eventually, they're going to get the message. Now, the other thing is I wrote to the, uh, the CEO of the AGL, and his name is Nick. I always thought it was Hicks. So I wrote a very interesting little letter to him a while back, and I told him, first of all, I apologize for using the wrong name. Uh, I have no idea. So please forgive me. So when you go to these people and you start writing to them,

16:21always be polite, be gentle. We're not out there to create controversy or fight them. What we are, therefore, is to resolve the issue. Now, that means we've got to educate them into understanding what the bills of exchange access. And in section 48, it says, if they do not accept a bill of exchange, uh, but it's in their hand. In other words, they deny it, but they, they're holding it in their hand. There is no more debt. Once they accept that piece of paper in their hand, the debt is settled immediately. So what, what this, uh, why we make them write to us and why we always write to them, we send the bill of exchange back to them in a registered mail. So they don't know what's in that envelope. So when they open up the envelope and they take it out, boom, the debt's gone. Yeah. In other words, we're using the law and their own stupidity to track them into accepting

17:22our settlement. Do you know, do you know that this 21,700 people employed by the ATR, yeah? 21,700, as they got paid a dollar a week, that's a lot of money. Yeah. When they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a week, it's a different kind of fish. That's too much. And if all these people can't get to get, with a 50 billion outstanding, who's doing what? Nobody. I'm just forgetting. No, they're pretty useless. Ah, dear, you know. The only people are not as proud of the bottom and went down hill. No, it's this level. Anyhow, Mark, we've explored us all the world's problems and thought, Minnesota, we can't do that, but it's good to be back again. Let's take the guy and two of them now. It's a lovely zone. We've got people up and dancing now.

18:22So continuing them, we started way back a few years ago. It was very good then. Well, I think we might be able to get a bit better now. Absolutely. Now, there's two websites you can go through to find out all of this information. For the Billers of Exchange, you can go to my website myholtshow.com and then go how to B-O-E. You know the second one is it? B-O-E help. And under B-O-E help on the menu, you'll see how to create a Bill of Exchange. And the other website is taxbegon.today. And it's got a nice picture of a guy in a red bear suit, being chased by a big burly ATO guy with a straight convict suit. But if you've got a tax debt over $100,000, didn't touch with us, we'll solve the problem for you and we'll do it within a week or two. We won't take long. You won't have that debt anymore. So don't pay the ATO.

19:24Give us a very small fee in comparison and we'll take the debt on and we'll get rid of it for you. Well, here's a good one for you. It's a friend of mine that was up in Tari and New South Wales. He had the tax wage in a farm of $250. And he negotiated with him and he negotiated nothing happened. So what he did, he got $251 coins, put him in a helicopter bag, and when he was down in Sydney went to the tax office, threw the foyer up to the reception desk and says, there's my tax bill. Thank you very much and we'll be out. And you know what? He never heard from them again. How the hell would that happen? Well, I don't like coins. But they wouldn't know who he was. He put a bag of coins on the counter. No, mind you, I wouldn't even give a map. They don't deserve it. I don't pay criminals. That's it, full stock. Yeah, well, here what you're saying. It's just the way we're going and have that many employees. Almost seriously. There's a thousand of men all over me.

20:25That's good for the town, of course. But that's the main place where they service all the documents, which is the, it's in Snullock Street, I think. They're in an old river, in Maraudley. But that's the area in that business. Yeah. And that's the key hub for over a thousand employees. And that's the way it goes. Any other time, Rob Heffern's the Taxation Commissioner. And he's been there since 2020. He's still there today. Now, always remember this, too. There is a little trick to email in people. Government departments have just thought clockwork. You wind them up, and they go. When they don't run their clockwork, they just follow backwards. And when they did their email address, they did them all the same way. Yeah. And if you had a ride onto that, robbot.heffern. I-T-F-E-R-E-N-S-I-T-R dot gov.au. You can bet you a lot of them turn up and he's from there. Well, there you go.

21:25Listen to that. All right, Mike. Well, I think that's a-we've covered a little bit of a thing for people who haven't listened to. And we meet on the desk again next Thursday, as that's end. Sounds great, mate. Thank you very much. All right, Mike. Thank you. Patience. So I was a little bit late this morning, but we won't be in next time. That's all right. Yeah, you look a lot better for it in here. Yeah. Well, people tell me and you, we've got the perfect places for radio. That's it. We certainly have. All right. Catch you next week, mate. OK. Cheers. Tuning next week at cansnews.org for another gem from ToUp featuring Harry Palmer and Mike Holt. Yeah.