
About this episode
Daisy and Francis are joined by Jad Esber, founder and CEO of Koodos Labs, a product and research company focused on the next generation of the internet. Koodos Labs is the creator of Shelf.
Shelf: www.shelf.im
Jad: https://x.com/Jad_AE
00:00 Night Life
02:20 Daisy smells like a donut
08:33 Inverting the internet's personal data model
14:47 Understanding the concept of data gravity
19:56 The algorithms influence on interpersonal relationships
30:53 Shelf: Your aggregator for taste
39:00 The difficulties of tracking physical media consumption
44:01 Connecting through shared media consumption
50:40 The balance of friction and meaningful engagement
Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers.
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