Ep.246: The Dancing Wolfeman w/Rick London

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Welcome to another episode of Where the Weird Ones are.

My name is Kevin, but you probably already knew that.

And if you didn't, now you do.

Today's episode is with author Rick London, Ricardo Kodo, if you nasty.

But no, he wrote, his pen name is Rick London, and he wrote the book, The Dancing

Where Wolf.

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It's actually a really good, I read it just the other day.

And it's very, very detailed.

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are feeling when they're feeling it.

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Everybody, welcome to another episode of where the weird ones are.

I have a special guest for you.

His name is is it.

Do I say the is it is my name Rick London?

Okay, Rick London.

All right.

So he's written a book and I'm interested in it and I can't wait to check it out.

So we're going to discuss that discussed his fear get some of his theories on wolf men and stuff like that.

So any who I'm going to let him introduce himself and give you a little bit of background.

If you don't mind, let the good people know a little bit about yourself, sir.

Absolutely, man, hey Kevin, appreciate you having me on.

So my name is actually Ricardo, but I use my pen name of Rick London for my book.

My book's called The Dancing Wolf Man.

It's a wolf wouldn't eat.

And I use that because that's the last name of my protagonist.

His name is Titus Wolf in my book.

So the just on my book is Titus Wolf is a high school music teacher dedicated

to high school music teacher by day and he DJs by night.

He's he's been around music his whole life since he was a baby.

His father is a son engineer and his mother worked as a as a cashier all around all around

music.

He's not at a music store.

And so he grew up listening to music.

He was taught how to dance, he, you know, it just everything, he just developed instincts

from music.

So it's deep in his DNA.

So when I coming back from a gig and it's based in the San Francisco Bay Area, for all

your readers, are your readers and listeners out there for Kevin's podcast.

I have a website from my book.

It's called The Dancing Wolf Man.

So on the cover, I got the Golden Gate Bridge here in San Francisco and you know, in the

full moon and in the dancing position, you know, smiling, you know, with musical notes

kind of give you an idea.

So the gist of it is coming back from a from a gig up in Bodega Bay and he meets a wolf

man and he kind of briefly talks to it, but you know, the wolf still attacks him and bites

him.

Doesn't doesn't terminate pieces, but bites him and he gets away and then eventually

becomes a wolf man and right before he, I'm just going to give you a little snippet.

The rest of you guys can read, but a little snippet is right before he attacks his first

victim, just lady jogging in the woods.

Right before he attacks her, she's jogging in the woods, listening to music on her, you

know, her phone and just got her iPods on and he hears some music in her iPods and it

transforms his consciousness back to his human self.

That's what music does as a part of music is the driving force.

So it turns back to his human self-wise, the wolf man and he's not a killer.

Titus is not a killer.

He doesn't have that instinct to kill.

So instead of becoming that vicious killer that you see in all, you know, where both movies,

you know, it doesn't matter who it is, right, they come where wolves they become killers,

but he's not.

So instead he becomes a savior and as that progresses in the story, you know, I put more and more

in there and so that's the main interest of the story, you know, it's like, I consider

like a big metaphor, you know, it's like the peace inside of us when we're presented

with the peace inside of us, what do we do when things get tough, when you want to act

out, when you want to become, when you want to let loose and just let your primal instincts

come into, you know, take over, do you let that take over or do you still, you know, hold

your morals, your values and you still want to be the person that you are.

That's beautiful, man.

I look, first of all, I have always, I'm not like a musically inclined, but you know, I think

anybody who doesn't, who isn't instrumental or anything like that, we all feel something

from, from music and one way or another and I love, I really like that take on that,

that's super intriguing.

And so I can't wait to read it even more, you know, I love music and so it's interesting

to see when writers put in like certain, certain symbolisms in their, in their stories.

Like it's way more, way more thought out, it's not just like, I just wanted to tell a story

so I wrote it like it's, you went through the, it sounds like, I know that I've done

it too with, with the, the couple books that I've wrote, wrote and, and stuff like that,

but it's like, you, you need a how, a why, and then, you know, a reason for the ending,

like what's, what's the point of the story and all that stuff?

So this, this sounds super intriguing, to be honest with you, it's a different take

on, on like the werewolf stuff and all that.

And I'm a big fan of werewolves, like, werewolf, American Werewolf in London was probably

one of the first werewolf movies I ever saw and I love that movie.

So yeah.

So you know, actually, it's great that you mentioned that.

So two things that you talked about, so the first one is the music thing.

So in the book, I even go deep in developing his character, you know, talking about, you

know, his, his dad being a sound engineer.

So I go deep in this one part, describing why music is so powerful in this life.

And cause you know, cause I couldn't just get anybody, you know, we all love music, right?

And any of us could listen to it, but you know, as our conscience is going to, you know,

go back to the human cell.

So I had a, I had a, I had to develop him, I had to give him a deep, deep background

and why music is so transformative in his life, why, why it, why it was his saving grace

when it became the wolf man, you know, cause I just couldn't get anybody, right?

How to be somebody who's just, it's in, it's in his DNA, you know, and it's funny.

If you don't mind, you said the American werewolf in London, just to give you a little background

of how it came up with the story, could I, could I talk about that?

Absolutely.

I mean, it was January 25th, 1998, Super Bowl Sunday, here in the Bay Area, I was living

in Fremont, which is the Southern, Southern, Alameda County.

And I got invited to go see the Super Bowl with a friend.

And so I had to drive up this highway or this freeway, 680 North.

And then I took 580 East and I get off this last, the last exit, which is North Vascular

Road.

And I had to drive about another 7, 8, 10 miles, I think 10 miles up North.

And there's a beautiful country road.

Rolling hills is green, you know, January is green, like we've had a lot of rain.

And it was sunny that day.

It was beautiful.

The cow came up to my car, so I was driving and had to slow down.

The cow came up.

It was real cool.

I took a seat Super Bowl, and then on the way home, you know, it's already dark because

it's Super Bowl and it's late, right?

It starts late and it's late.

I'm driving back, right?

And I'm like, I'm the only car in the road.

And there's not that many street lights, you know, in between, right?

So it's kind of eerie, right?

And there was no cloud cover, kind of fogging.

And it reminded me of the beginning of an American Warwolf in London.

When the two guys are walking, the two friends are walking in the moors, right?

And then they go to that bar, they go to that bar and the English, the English see that

they're Americans and they tell them to get out and they walk out and then they encounter

the wolf, you know, the wolf man.

So it reminded me of that.

And that's my favorite Warwolf movie.

I love that movie.

And that's just such a great movie.

And then, yeah, so that thought stayed with me since then.

And then in December of 2024, I was saying I was some friends on a Friday night and we're

talking about old friends and it reminded me of that night and I'm like, man, I haven't

seen that with my friend Nick in a long time.

And then, you know, we're still talking.

So then we all leave and go home and I get in my car and I thought stayed with me and

I'm like, and I remember driving the road and I'm like, what if a wolf man did come

out?

You know what I mean?

Just my imagination starts taking off, right?

So I'm driving and it's like, and the thought just stayed with me, right?

And just like, it just kept lingering in my brain, wake up the next morning still in my

head.

I'm like, man, what's going on with this?

Why am I, you know, why am I, you know, why is this thought in here?

It's like, I need to do something with it.

So I wanted to create videos and post them on YouTube for, you know, describing the story,

but I had to come up with a story.

And that took me a few months to develop my son later on in 2025, early 2025 or on spring,

he starts taking music class.

And so he's trying out the trombone and he comes home and he puts his trombone case right

behind me against that wall by where that chair is.

And I keep looking at that trombone, trying to come up with a story and I see that trombone

case kept looking at it and I'm like, bingo, music, right?

And then there you have it, right?

The music angle, right?

I had to come up with a gimmick for this Wolfman story because Kevin, you know, I love Wolfman

story, but I didn't want to make it another Wolfman story.

I didn't want to make it where a guy turns to a Wolfman and you know, then he starts killing

people.

And then of course, he started going to get in and then they kill him at the end and

they want that.

I wanted something different.

I wanted to turn him into something different.

I wanted to make him bigger than life.

Somebody who's going to use, who's going to use that for something other than killing.

And so that's how I came up with that idea, you know, just from a little memory of driving

in a country road and you know, and then the music angle and then that's how I came up

with my story.

And then just took a few more months and you know, wrote my outline and then bingo, you

know, I got the book done in like about 20 weeks.

Wow.

Last year.

Yeah.

Wow.

So are you have it?

That's awesome.

It's funny too, because when I come up with a lot of my story, so I am like on the cusp

of becoming a filmmaker as well.

So I'm working on a couple different like indie movie projects.

And I have one that's in serious development right now about a YouTuber.

She's a found footage film and she wants a paranormal investigator on YouTube.

And so she gets invited to this house that just opened up for paranormal investigators

and had a cult in it that lived there in the 70s and 80s and stuff.

So then they go and then a bunch of weird stuff happens and there's a couple twists in

the story.

But when I think of all these stories, sorry, man.

That's a great story.

Wow.

I love it.

When I come up, when I start thinking about stories, it always happens when I'm driving

every time.

And I think so.

I have to like, because my, well, because I drive for a living too.

So my phone will be sitting there and I'll just be like, Hey, Siri, take this note and

I'll talk to my phone and it'll take, oh, and I said, I said it.

So now my phone's coming on, but so I get my phone to take all these notes.

And so then I can come up with something else and it's always funny how it develops

because I always have this, I have the main idea.

And then I have like a kind of sort of an outline within the first week.

And then like by week two or week three, the story completely changes.

It's still like the same core story, but it like, it changes and it's interesting to,

to me, how you just said that, you know, it comes and you comes to you when you randomly

think of something.

So like you're talking about friends and then you, you think about this time that you

were going to the Super Bowl with your buddy and that drives.

And then that driver reminds you of the where American werewolf in London.

And then you're like, I should write us, like write this story.

It's so fascinating to me how the human brain works creatively like that.

It's just like a little piece and then you can just, you can run with it.

And I'll tell you this, my buddy Michael Thompson, he's also a writer and he was just,

I can't remember what he exactly was doing, but he set a line from his, one of his books,

right?

He just said,

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And then he developed the character before he developed the story and it was, it's beautiful

the way, you know, our minds work in that aspect of storytelling.

Absolutely, man.

I agree with you.

It's funny.

You said, you know, you're driving and you come up with your story.

You know, driving sometimes is meditative, right?

Yes.

Because you're there and you're so focused, right?

But it's almost a meditative state, right?

And a lot of times when you're meditating, your brain works differently, right?

You're coming up with all the stuff.

Like, what am I going to do when I'm going to have for dinner?

What am I going to do here?

You know, it's like, you got a plan, right?

Especially if you're working or you're going somewhere, you know, what your route is and

your mind is almost in a control and it is in a controlled state, but also a meditative

state where a lot of thoughts are just permeating throughout, right?

And you're coming up and yeah, and then that's a great way to come up with idea.

The only thing is when you're driving, you know, you get a thought and it's like, if you're

unable to pull over, good thing you have your phone, right?

But like, back in the day before phones, you had a like pull over, it's like, hey, hey,

I got you know, you're looking for a pen, right?

You know, your idea down, right?

Now, thank God for technology.

You have a phone.

Hey Siri, take this note for me, bingo, and you could go home and you know, listen to

it, man, but yeah, I agree with you, man, it's odd how the, how the mind works.

And sometimes sometimes you know, you're sleeping too, you know, you're like, you wake up in

the middle of the night and you're like, boom, you have this idea, you know, because you're

dreaming.

But the best thing to do is write it down or put it on a, put it on a recorder.

Yeah, absolutely.

I love that, man.

Now, you made a lot of sense there.

Thanks.

Now, is this your first book that you've written?

Yes, sir.

It's like I said, it just came up, you know, and it's, yeah, it's a, and I, and I, and I

titled it, you know, volume one, because you know, I plan to do more, you know, I plan

to come up with a second book, nice, because you know, again, I wanted to write a story

and I wanted to introduce his character to the world, but I want him to live, you know,

I want him to become my goal with this guy, with my character, is to make it where like

people, you know, like, man, they just, they want to know what the next story is about.

You know, they want to come where they love this character, it's like somebody, if he

exists, that you don't want to meet a person, right?

You know, that's, that's what I want.

Like somebody to just to become a likable character, even though he's a wolf man, you

know, when the, when the moon comes out, and I, but, yeah, I got a, I got, I actually have

a plan, Kevin, for another four books, I have, I have two side books that I wanted to

do, because there's, there's three main characters in the, in my story, and my, my, my story

is not long, it's only like 150 or 150 pages, but I have, you know, I have the two side,

the two other characters, you know, and I want to write about them and create a very interesting

intriguing story about them, you know, where they come together and when they meet Titus,

you know, the wolf man, right, bring them all together, because neither of them are

the same without the other, right, the other two, you know, they're all, they're, you

know, they don't survive without each other.

So to me, it would be interesting to like write, write a story about them, and then, you

know, the, the confluence of them coming together, and so, yeah, that's, I have that.

And then the volume two, and then I want to get, I want to write a book about the origin

of the werewolf, you know, and, and have them explore that.

So, yeah, yeah.

And I was talking about it to somebody last night.

I did a little research before I started writing, or dirt while I was writing.

My pen name, Rick London, I came up with that pen name as a homage to England, right,

because a lot of the famous werewolf movies, American werewolf and London and other werewolf

movies are based in England.

So, for me, it's paying my respects to them, so I came up with London, right, London

England.

But actually, you know, the werewolf, the werewolf lore actually comes from the little research

again.

It comes from Macedonia, Greece, like a lot of different parts of Eastern Europe, you know,

and but, you know, for some, for some reason, just became famous in England.

Yeah, there's a, even, there's a big story of, of like a werewolf entity, a wolfman,

creature out of France too, and like, it like supposedly like wreaked havoc on this community

for like a decade or so, I guess, supposedly.

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You know, I think I, I think I might have heard of that.

I think I might have heard of that day.

That's unfamiliar.

Yeah.

You know, that would, that would be, that would be awesome, you know, it's like, now that's

going to take some research on my end because I want to go, I want to go as far as I can

and to find out all the, all the stuff that happened, you know, around the werewolf

floor.

And then, you know, and then incorporate my guy and his people in that story, right?

They're searching for the truth, right?

And, you know, I was talking, again, I was talking to somebody last night about werewolves

and vampires, not, you know, probably centuries ago, man, maybe those things did exist, you

know what I mean?

Because we didn't, they didn't have the technology we have now, right?

Now, you know, they have to, they might still exist, but, you know, they're hidden somewhere,

right?

They're, they're in hiding.

They don't, they're not easily exposed because of all the, you know, that we have cameras

everywhere, right?

So, yeah.

And there's some people don't believe in that.

I'm open minded, man.

I mean, I mean, those people who wrote those characters, you know, many years ago, they

came up with them for a reason.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I think so.

I think so too.

I think, I mean, maybe vampires aren't all supernatural.

Like, they are told in the stories, but I do think there are definitely true elements

to a lot of folklore and these old monster stories.

I'd, you know, at least in some aspect, like with the Wolfman, there's stories of real

people who have acted, at least acted like dogs and were hairy and stuff like that.

Like we, there's like legitimate recorded stories of these people, I mean, they might

not have transformed into looking like a Wolfman or anything like that, but they still

did some weird stuff that coincide with, with that creature.

And even like, you can't, you can even go into cryptids like Bigfoot.

There's a story of a hairy woman in the 1500, 1600s or something like that.

That was living in the wilderness and she was covered in hair and she didn't wear clothes

and then they tried to like, sophisticate her or something like that and it just wasn't,

it wasn't working.

So I've heard stories about that.

You never know, man, you don't know what's out there.

You know, I mean, I mean, again, these writers, they came up with these great characters

who knows what they experience or maybe they met people who had these experiences and

they, you know, and they gave them my idea to come up with this, to develop these great

characters to know.

Absolutely.

You know, just, just to bring something alive and make our imaginations go wild, right?

So yeah, makes for good, good conversation.

Oh, and good movies for sure.

And good movies for sure.

Visually, I, I really enjoy, I've never, like most of my life, I've never been much of

a reader, but I knew that I always wanted to write because I know so many people,

enjoy reading books and, you know, every time I find a movie that was a book, I'll try

and find the book and read that too.

And the book is always way better than a movie because movies only have like an hour and

a half or so to tell the story that is sometimes 500 or so pages.

So they got to try and tell the story within like, so what a script, an hour and a half

script would be like 120 pages.

So yeah, and you were mentioning that you, you know, you make movies.

I mean, that's, that's awesome.

I feel that my story too, man, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get it out there and meet

people where, where, you know, I feel my book can be adapted to a movie or story, you

know, because it seems like Hollywood loves where we'll stories, right?

Yeah, they're still making it, yeah, they're still making it, but you know, I want to throw

mine, mine's got a twist to it, you know, it's a different take, you know, so again, Kevin,

you know, it's like so many wolf stories, books and movies are similar, you know, the vicious

brutal killer, and I just didn't want that to happen, you know, I wanted something different

just for people to run with, you know, it's like, hey, let me, let me, this guy sounds

intriguing, but again, you know, I also, I also made it where it's like, it's a big metaphor,

you know, the beast with the mouse, you're right, so, yeah, all right.

So are you from the San Francisco area originally, or are you live there now?

Yes, sir, yes, sir, I grew up here, and since the early 70s, yeah, I grew up, I love

this area, you know, when I was thinking about this book, it's like, where am I going to

put, where am I going to make this story, right, Kevin, it's like, so I had to make it

where I know, right, right, right about what you know, right, I know the Bay Area real well.

I actually, I used to be a limousine driver on the side, you know, and I've had, yeah,

and I've had driving jobs, so I kind of got to learn the Bay Area, right, real well.

And so I wrote it in Marine County, which is north of, I live in Pacifica, California,

which is about seven miles south of San Francisco on the coast, I live around on the coast,

and then, or by the coast.

And then San Francisco, and then across the Golden Gate Bridge is Marine County, and that's

where I have my story set in the town called San Rafael.

I had to pick somewhere, and I always like driving through San Rafael, you know, Marine

County's beautiful rolling hills everywhere.

I'm like, I had to come up with a nice white area, a lot of wooded areas, you know, for

the wolf to go venture through.

So, you know, and just, just keep it where I know, you know, I know the Bay Area, like,

the back of my hand, so just like, that was kind of easy, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think the first book that I wrote to, took place in, in Maine.

So I was able to, I mean, I kind of like made up some of the, some of the area, but it

was easier for me to, to describe like nature and stuff, because this is the nature that

I'm used to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What part of Maine?

I am in the southern part.

So, I am in Sanford, really close to New Hampshire on the coast, so like a 20 minute drive

from the ocean.

Yeah.

I hear it's real green there, man.

It's beautiful.

Not a forest.

It's green.

It's green.

Right.

Right now, it's not so green, but we still have like the other, ever green.

So I mean, we're the, we're the white pine state, so there's always, there's always needle

shelter.

Yeah.

I, I love being in the woods that I wouldn't trade it for anything else.

Sometimes I'm like, how do people live in like city areas?

Because I don't know if I'd be able to do it, you know, I, when I drive for work, I drive

through like Portland, I don't know.

And there's like, I mean, there's parts of Portland that are kind of rural, but most

of the park, most of it is just building, building, building, building street, street, sidewalk.

And it's, that's all it is.

And I'm like, man, there's got, there's more to life than living in a city like this,

man.

You know, Kevin, it's funny, you're saying Maine, there's a great Stevens.

What is it?

The same story, the storm of the century.

Yes.

Have you read that?

Yes.

Right.

And then they did, they did a mini series, right?

It was really, really good.

You seen it?

I haven't seen it.

But I know they made it.

Oh, my God.

You got to see it, man.

It's, it's awesome.

It's like, I think it's two or three episodes.

It's really good, really good cast, really well made, it was made for TV, man, it's just

like, oh, Fior, the actor, he's, he's like the antagonist, he's, he's brutal.

It's really good.

You got to, you got to check out, and it's said in Maine, yeah, yeah, when you said

Maine, I'm like, man, I love that stuff.

I'll have to check it out.

Another paranormal story, you know, about a demon, right?

There you go.

Absolutely.

I love paranormal supernatural stories, for sure.

Yeah.

So I did have one question, my real couple questions down here that I really

wanted to ask you.

So when, when you're in the writing process, what does like a day of writing typically

look for you?

Are you at the computer most of the day, or do you take like, what does that look, what

is that process, the process of writing look for you?

So I did it in like different parts, like I worked on getting a chapter out like every

week, right?

And then, and then at the end with that chapter, I would finish the chapter and then I would

go back and then read the story from the beginning, every time I added a chapter, just

to make sure that the story flowed, you know, so there was time, there was some nights,

I didn't have anything.

And then the next night I had a lot and it's like, boom, I had to put that in there.

But you know, the one thing about the book is, I didn't, I didn't, it's not a long book.

I wanted to split it in two, because I wanted it to get it out last year, I wanted to

get this character out to introduce to the, to the world, you know, and then the second

part, of course, will be volume two.

But yeah, it was just, you know, just came up with something almost every day, again,

there were some nights where I couldn't come up with something and then Bingo just came

to me and then I got it in there and yeah, it was almost, some weeks it took me to create

a whole chapter, one week it, one time it took me like three weeks to come up with one

chapter.

So it actually took me more than 20 weeks, let me see, hold on, let me go back, I started

in like July and I was done in October, so July, October, so that's roughly, it is

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You know, let's talk for three, almost 17 weeks, or maybe I started in June, I think I

started in June.

I think there was a couple of weeks that I might have done two chapters, you know, there's

some short chapters in there.

And then that one chapter that I had to get, you know, that I had to do that had to go

deep in my character and then there was also a chase scene, those took a little while.

But again, you know, what I never took, I've never taken a course on writing.

Again, I just wanted to come up or creative writing or any kind of writing course, I just

wanted to get this book out and so whatever came to my mind, you know, it's like it just

wrote it down and got it in there and I said, and then just kept reading it from the

beginning till when it was up, till I got to that chapter, I had to do a lot of

reduced, right?

A lot of course, you read stuff, you're like, oh, no, that doesn't work, right?

You go back, you read it again, oh, no, that doesn't work, right?

Boom, then you do another chapter, you read again, and then you go to an, oh, that chapter

doesn't work.

So, or part of that chapter doesn't work, kind of, so do a lot of reduced.

But yeah, it was, I loved it, man, it's like, you know, I never got stuck and I guess

I was driven to get this out and I was fortunate, man, I never got stuck, never got frustrated

where my story was going, it just kept coming, you know, and then boom, I was done by Halloween

because my story, the story, my last chapter is based on Halloween.

So, when you do sit down and write, do you like to write in silence with music or anything

specific that you like to have, like what's your ritual, like when you're actually in the

writing?

I just sit down here by my computer and then I just write, noise doesn't bother me, but

I like, you know what?

I like that.

I never thought about playing music while I was writing.

That's good.

But that's, that's a good, that's good, that's good, man, maybe, you know, next time when

I write my books, just play a little music, and I like all kinds of music.

I love, I love all kinds of music, just like my character in my story.

I love all kinds of music.

And you know what?

I'm going to try that.

Thank you for that, man.

I love that.

You know, next time I get in my next story, I'm just going to put on my headphones, play

a little music, you know, and just get in like that meditative state like when we're

driving.

I figured that, I figured I'd ask because where your character is musically inclined.

I was like, I wonder if he's listening to music while he's telling the story, writing

that story down.

No, you know what?

I just love music.

It's just to me, you know, when I saw the trombone case and I love, I love all music,

you know, love music from all genres, all, all from whatever time, you know, it's like

I'm not just a love music from the now, you know, so I love stuff that 50, 60, 70

years ago, you know, music's music, right?

If it moves you, you know, what, listen to it, you know, get some joy out of it, right?

Absolutely.

And so it's like, to me, it's like, that's how it made my character kind of part, you

know, I was saying yesterday that something's like, I kind of live vicariously through my

character.

So he's my character.

So he's part of me in the way.

Yeah.

Now, as you were developing the story and was there any character that kind of like surprised

you as you're coming up with the, as you're building this world and then you're like, well,

I'm going to write this character.

You kind of, and then like as you're developing each character and any one of them surprised

you in yourself, like be like, oh, wow, this actually might be a good character.

Yeah, the villain, you know, there's several, there's several

antagonists, right?

But the main antagonist, that's the one that surprised me, it's like, I had a, I had

a del deep into that one.

It's like, I had to think about that one.

And they slowly started developing this character.

But that one was surprised because I had a, I had a, I had to throw it in there where

like, try to make people guess if this assistant, is he a villain or is he just somebody who

just keeps, you know, just shows up, right?

And it's like, yeah, so it's like, I had to make it kind of like surprise way, which

also surprised me, you know, so that's a good question now like that.

Awesome.

That's cool.

All right, so I don't, I just ask you, literally just ask you that questions.

Did, so did any of your characters become darker or lighter as then you originally intended?

No, I think they became lighter.

Okay.

The, the, the whole story, you know, because of the wolf and the wolf man, he had become

in a wolf man and all that, it brought the best out of them, you know.

So yeah, the, yeah, the lighter in the sense of, you know, it's like, you saw, you saw

the humanness in these people, right?

You saw how good they are, you know, and the, you know, Titus, Titus wolf, becoming

a wolf man brought that out in them, you know, because of what he did.

So there's all kinds of layers in that, in this book, you know, that I hope people, people

get when they read it, you know, I've had a few people tell me that it's like, you know,

the duality of man and, you know, the psychological, you know, the inner peace within, you know,

so I love all that stuff, man.

If it, yeah, if it makes you think that way, yeah, for sure.

Awesome.

Awesome.

All right.

Another question I have for you is, because this has happened to me personally several times,

did the ending ever change from what you originally intended?

No.

No.

I had a, you know, I put in a, what do they call it, cliffhanger?

Yes.

Honestly, because that cliffhanger, you know, actually, you know what?

You are absolutely, that's a great question.

Actually, it did.

In my head, I had part of the ending, I had this part of the ending, right, where I

wanted to make it really, really romantic.

And I think I did that, but in a different way than I had in my mind forever, right?

When I finally did the ending, it came out different than what I had.

But it's still, the theme of it was still the same, you know, the romance and, you know,

can be and present it with the antagonist.

So in a way, it's, it, it's swayed away from what I wanted, but subconsciously, it came

out, you know, being kind of like the same thing, just, just differently.

So, but I definitely didn't want to change it where like, you know, I get to the end and

I'm like, oh, no, this doesn't work, you know, it's like, no, I got to, I got to change

the whole thing.

It's like, no, I kept to that ending.

Nice.

Because also Kevin, that's, that's a great question because, you know, the ending is based

on how the story develops, too, you know, I mean, you can come with the ending, right?

Because you wrote a book, you can come, you have this idea for the ending, but as you

keep writing and all this stuff comes up and you're redoing stuff, then you get to the

ending, it's like, no, this doesn't work because it's based on what happened in the

past, right?

But as I kept writing the book, the ending stayed the same because of all the stuff that

was coming up leading to that.

So it all worked out.

Nice.

Nice.

I will say that, so this movie that I'm working on, the ending has changed like three times

as I'm like trying to develop it because like the, I mean, the core of the story is like

I said, like, it's a YouTube paranormal investigator that gets invited to investigate a house.

She investigates it with two of her friends and one of them is going to be me.

I'm going to play the character and he's like the guy who holds the camera and stuff.

So, you know, he films her and stuff and originally they were all just friends and now it has,

then I changed it to the two girls, our friends and my character is just the older brother

of the other girls, other girl in the story.

And then the ending changed three times because I originally was just going to be like,

it's just going to be like this random haunted house and then I put the cult in there and

stuff like that.

And then I was just like, man, this is becoming something fucking way more thought out than

I thought I was going to do and I really enjoy storytelling to begin with and going through

that process.

I was like, I think I just made this better.

Yeah.

No, I could see that, you know, it's like because you have the ending right and then you're

like, something happens to the characters like, no, I like, I would like this character

beat, you know, to surprise everyone, right, because you want the surprise, right?

Absolutely.

You're like, no, this character would be for the better, so I think you have to rewrite

everything.

And then sometimes if you have to rewrite the ending, you have to go back and change

something, leaning to that, to give the reader a clue, right?

So it's like, boom, if that changes, then you got a lot of reduce to do.

But you know what, man, that's a creative process, right?

That's a great, I mean, you hear that, you hear that, I mean, you've heard that throughout

the history of cinema, right, you know, one of my favorite movies, what was it?

The Return of the King, you know, the last, you know, the last, the last, the last, what

is it?

In order to ring movies, you know, I love that movie and I was leading up to the movie when

they were filming it.

It's like, what is the Peter Jackson of the director?

He was writing, he was changing the script every day.

He was driving people crazy.

Every day, man, he was, he was just driving everybody crazy, he kept changing it every

day.

He's like, no, no, we're going to do this.

And then, you know, then the actors would get in there, they would get in character and

then they would be ready for tomorrow based on what they did that day and then he changes

it again, right?

And it's like, I've heard stories so that other movies, right?

So it's, you know, when you got all those creative juices flowing, man, it's like, you come

up with a great idea and then you're like, and then all the sense, like, no, I got a better

idea.

I'm going to make this person do that.

And then, and then later on, you're like, no, I want that person to do that because it's

like, you got to figure out who's who's better at something and who's not.

Yeah, absolutely.

Good.

So you said you're, you're planning on four books and all and they're all going to

be tied together.

Yeah.

So at least four.

So I got the, the next one would be volume two, right?

And then I'm going to write an origins story, you know, where it would be the third book

actually, where they, they go in a, they, they want to find out what, you know, where

this where wolf comes from, right?

So that would be the third book.

But then I have two others, like prequels, one is, one is the, the, his, his love interest

that I named Nicole Santoro in the book.

I'm going to write about her story and her, her life before she met Titus, you know,

and then leading up to, to their encounter where they meet.

And then I have, you know, another guy who's becomes part of the circle, you know, and

his interesting background and then leading up to where he meets Titus.

Because those three, those three central figures, you know, again, either, neither of them

are the same without each other, you know, none of them are the same without each other.

So I have to find, I have to, I have to find, I have to create a story on all, on the

other two, you know, because again, my main character, I want to make them bigger than

life, but also want to make the other two, you know, bigger than life, you know, and because

of them, you know, Titus is a better person and a better werewolf because of those two.

So, you know, and they all got each other's backs, right?

So it's like, what's life without friends?

So, you know, I got to write about the other two.

Absolutely.

There you go.

Awesome.

Do you have, you have plans or ideas for other stories?

Or is this just all, is this what your mind is set on right now?

It's, it's set on that, but you know what, you know, you never know about your creative

juice, right?

Something could pop.

I could be driving again, right?

Something to pop up, right?

It's like, it better get my phone.

But I love, Kevin, I love hard-boiled detective stories, I love, you know, crime procedures,

I love spy thrillers, you know, I love all that stuff, man, I just love, I love stories

where there's clues and there's a killer, you know, and that, you know, good versus evil

and they got to, they got to find these, so stuff like that, you know, stuff that makes

people think, you know, throw clues in there, oh, if you're here in my cat, man, sorry, if

you're here in some yowing, my cat's wanting to get out, he's a, he's, I got a tuxedo

cat, he's high maintenance, so right now, right now he wants to get out, but I love him.

So, but yeah, man, it's like, you never know, Kevin, right?

Like you said, it just, if it comes to you, why not?

Just like this story, if something comes to me, man, and I feel compelled, I feel that

juice is in there and I feel like, say, this is something I could do, sure, why not?

You know, it's like, I leave it open to whatever, whatever comes my way.

I ask that because I have so many like stories that I want to work on just like to have like

the very small skeleton skeletal structure, but I know that when I do actually work on it,

it'll become something better than what I'm thinking about right now, at least at the moment,

like, so, so doing this podcast, I realized, you know, I can just write books and self-publish

them and stuff like that, like no problem. So as I did, I still, I wrote, this was my first

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and then on our, in this, the first book, we're investigating a missing person,

we're trying to find this kid out in the main wilderness, and we encounter, encrypted. And so

as we, and then in book two, which book two, I put out, I published a month ago, maybe two months

ago. It's more of like, we're starting to realize there's a monster world out there, and so

by book three, we're like full-fledged Monster Hunters. Um, but it's based on, the characters

based on me, it's not really not me because the guys way more braver than I am and way more

tougher than I am in real life, but, you know, but the dog is based on my dog, and she's pretty close to,

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now to three different competitions. I won't know for a while about it or anything like that,

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about big production companies taking it and going to see it in the movie theaters and stuff

like that, I started thinking, you know, I could do my own movies. I was like, I should do, I

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the haunted house. And then I'm like, what other movies could I do on my own without like a big

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limit very few actors and still be able to put something out. And I could act in them too,

just so that I don't have to look for other actors depending on like the the role and stuff like that.

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we're actually filming. And then I can, I'm going to be working on my second one in the winter of

probably February of 27. And then anytime after that, after I'm done with that, there's another one

that I can do. And then there's one that I can literally do my by myself that I thought of

the other day. And it's literally just me, it would just be one actor, the majority of the movie

in one location and just high intensity and atmospheric and stuff like that. And I've got so excited

about it that when I come home, like every time I come up with something or or change a story,

I'll come home and tell my girlfriend. And she just sits there and like, yep, well,

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you know, you man, dude, I admire you, man. Jesus, I was thinking while you're saying,

oh, that's like, man, do you ever get any sleep? Because it's like, you got a job, right? You

work full time. You write books. You got a podcast. And you're creating a movie, man,

that's, that's, that's amazing, man. You're amazing. Thanks, man. Just, I'll give you the props,

man. Hey, dude, that, that, that, well, you know what? Because you're a creative guy, you know what I

mean? And creative people are always on the move, you know? Because nobody's, you know, it's like,

make your own luck. Nobody's going to do that stuff for you. And I think, I think make your own luck,

man, make your, make your own legacy. Nobody's going to do that for you. Nobody's going to, you know,

somebody might come up to you and offer to help, you know, maybe finance your movie, you know,

make, maybe get better, you know, better equipment or just, you know, it's like, hey, we want to make

a movie based on your story, but you're doing this stuff to get it out there, you know what I mean?

And that's why I'm like, I'm going on podcasts, right? To like tell the story of my, my book, right?

Because I'm sure you came across that when you wrote your book, it's like,

there's people who write books and then just sit back and wait for the book to take off. That's

not going to happen. I mean, you got to take, you got to take action. It takes a lot of work. And

right now, Kevin, you know, right now, what I'm doing is I'm just building credibility, you know,

it's like coming out on podcasts like yours, great podcasts like this and, you know, hopefully people,

you know, start learning about Rick London, you know, and building credibility. I'm not in a rush

for my books to start selling great. I know that can happen. The potential is there, but, you know,

it's like, but I rather, I rather work to like get my name out there and the story out there.

And it's like, yeah, and after a while, people start seeing, you know, see me everywhere. It's like,

hey, that's what you got to do, you know, you just like, and I kind of like, I would like to learn

how to make movies too. You know, it's like I have that idea, you know, when you're creative, man,

you just, you know, creative people don't just sit back, you know, they, they take action.

Yeah, for real. I've always wanted to, you know, be a, since second grade, I've wanted to be a writer,

and then, um, and then I wanted to do movies and I was going to do, um, the New York Film Academy

when I graduated, but then I didn't graduate. So, um, I couldn't go. And then it took me several more

years before I got my GED, but I remember I talked about it so much that my high school girlfriend's

mother bought me books on how to write scripts. Yeah. Wow. Wow. And then look at it. Now you've got

a couple books up. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And hey, whatever route, whatever route it takes,

you know what I mean, as long as you do it, I got, I'm at the point now where, because I'm almost

40, I'm not almost 40. I still got like two and a half years, but, uh, it's knocking on the door.

And I was just like, you know what, nobody's, there's no savior. Um, you know, if I'm not going to do

it, it's not going to happen. So let's fucking just do it. So do it now while you're young,

but I do while you're young, Kevin, I'm 61, man, but I've still got, I still got a lot of energy

in me. And it's like, I still got a lot of work left, you know, uh, ages, just ages, just, just

is what it is, you know, absolutely. As long as you keep moving, as long as you keep moving, man,

if you just sit still and lay there, nothing's going to happen, you know, gotta get out there,

absolutely, absolutely. Um, I can, uh, also while we're on the topic of getting out there,

if you're interested, I can suggest you to a couple of my other podcast friends just to help,

you know, create a buzz around your book. Absolutely, man. Yeah, it's like, and I love talking

about, I love talking about my book. And then I love learning about the podcast, you know, man,

if you give me a lot of great ideas, you just like, I've learned, I've done about, this is like

my eighth podcast and everyone, you know, I've learned a little bit, right? Like, what can I take?

Hey, man, that's a great idea. I can incorporate that in my story, you know, and other stuff,

man. It's, it's a two way thing here, you know, it's like, I just, I just don't want to come here

and just blur about everything about me. It's like, hey, you know, it's like, it's, it's two people

talking here. It's like, you know, come here with an open mind and learn something, man, because

you know, a lot of, you know, you know, a lot more stuff about writing and creating movies

than I do. So it's like, hey, you gave me some great ideas. So thank you for that. Yeah, you're welcome.

You know, if you ever need any, like, help or if you want, you know, any kind of, I don't know,

what the frick is the word that I'm looking for? Oh my god, I hate it when words don't word.

And you're right. I don't know, like a third party, like, um, idea or whatever, or like,

just to look at it or something like an absolute, I would do that for you if you wanted.

Yeah, thank you, man. Like I said, I'm going to send you my, I'm going to send you my man's

check it out and I hope you enjoy it. All right, I guarantee you that I'm going to.

Though, um, my favorite closing, closing question, I love asking this for everybody.

It's always different in, um, but anyways, so with everything that you're doing, you,

you got this book, you have plans for others. Are you finding fulfillment in your life with

what you're doing right now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Uh, uh, uh, just the joy it brings me that I,

that I came up my, and my wife, man, my wife is, she's just like, I'm just so proud of you, you know,

it's like, yeah, man, I had an idea, you know, and I didn't let it sit and it's like, uh, I did

something with it. I never thought I was ever going to write a book, you know, and, and yeah,

now I'm a published author, you know, and, uh, yeah, I'm proud of myself, man. It's like, because, um,

I've been reading since I was a kid, man, and, uh, I'm an avid reader, and I finally come up with

something that I can share with somebody, you know, a story that I can share with somebody,

that just, that just blows me away that, you know, that I had that in me. And it's like, hey,

I got some, I got some different skills. There's something back there that I thought I never had

and it came out. I consider myself blessed, you know, I'm blessed, man. I've been, I've been gifted

with, uh, with the ability to, to be a storyteller, you know, content creator, you know, and then,

and then the other thing I had to ask myself is like, hey, how far do I want to go with this,

you know, it's like, hey, put, put your heart into it. Again, nobody's, nobody's going to

do it for me. Yeah, there's people out there that are going to collaborate with me, right?

Maybe that's the way you were asking, right? Collaborate, right? You know, there's people that I'm

going to collaborate with, right? You know, and actually, man, in the creative world, right?

It's like, it's a collaborative, right? You know, you can't do stuff by yourself. You've got to

have other people helping you, giving you ideas, giving you feedback. Hey, let's try this, you know,

it's like, uh, the author community is huge, man, you got to, you got to network with people,

and, you know, it takes a village, right? You know, you support each other, you support each other's

work. And you're not going to, you're certainly not going to do that just by, again, by being a

couch or take off. I just, you know, not doing anything. So, yeah, man, it's like, it came up with

a story. It's like, hey, push it, push it, keep taking it, push the envelope, as they say, right?

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Hi, this is Alex Cantroids. I'm the host of Big Technology podcast, a long time reporter and an

on-air contributor to CNBC. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial

intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So, each week on Big Technology,

I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it,

asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more.

So, if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices,

and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology podcast

wherever you get your podcasts. Awesome, man. Awesome. I'm so excited for you. I'm excited to see

what the future holds for you. You know, just listening to the way you talk about your story,

it makes me want to read it even more. So, I hope that translates to the listeners as well.

So, but if you... And I want to read your story, man, you sent me an email of your story,

so I could look it up and I can get it, man. Yeah, I love stuff like that. I'll send you the

manuscript too. How about that? If you're going to send me yours, I'll send you mine.

Absolutely, man. Like I said, you know, the author community, man. We've got to support each other.

And the more we get involved with each other, like you said, you've got friends who do podcasts,

it's like, hey, the more the merrier, man. We also, we've got to support each other.

Absolutely. Do you have any other, like so? Do you have any social medias that you want to plug

or anything like that? Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm not on Instagram, but I am on X under Rick Linden,

1964. That's the year I was born. Facebook under Rick Linden as well. You'll see the dancing

wolfman. I have my web page. I have my own web page, dancing wolfman.com. You can buy the book on

my web page. It right now, if you go to my website and you hit buy, it'll take you to Amazon,

but I'm working on Kevin. I'm getting a POD. We're looking for a POD vendor that's that

right now. A lot of some of the vendors are charging up, you know, to printing costs are pretty

right now, right? We're trying to find a vendor where it's not, you know, it's finding good terms,

right? Finding a good contractor. So once I do that, then I'll be able to sell the book on, you know,

on my own. Now, one thing I want to tell your listeners, if you do go to Amazon and buy the book,

I have it on other websites. It's also on Barnes and Noble. It's on Apple books,

thrift books, and like 13 other sites. If you just do a Google search for the dancing wolfman,

what an E wolf would again. It'll ask you, did you mean this and it'll show you all the other sites

that on there. But if you do go to Amazon and buy the book, to buy the hardcover or paperback,

you got to have just a standard Amazon account. If you have prime, you won't be able to get it.

For some reason, it doesn't work with prime, you know, you have to have just a regular Amazon account.

Then you can buy the paperback or hardcover, the ebook version, the Kindle version, no problem.

But I was told about that and they can't, for some reason, Amazon doesn't work that way.

So if you can't get it on Amazon, hey, go to go to thrift books, you know, go to go to other sites

and you'll be able to buy. And please, if any of you listeners, if you do buy the book and you

read it and you like it or you don't like it and I hope you do like it, you know, go to my website,

I have a thing on there, send me a commentary, send me a review, you know, give me your feedback,

all in any feedback as well. Nice. All right. I actually think that feedback was also one of the

words that I was looking for earlier too when I was like, if you want some kind of like feedback

on a developing, when you're in development, I can do that too. But anyways, absolutely.

All right. So for the listeners, please go check out the Dancing Wolfman.

It sounds like a pretty great story. So again, like Rick said, if you get it and you like it,

please leave a review of some kind that'd be great. That would help him out immensely.

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an on-air contributor to CMBC. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial

intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology,

I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it.

Asking where this is all going, they come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon,

and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices,

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