EP 164 - James Bartley - Reptilians Among Us - Recognizing The Infiltration

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1:01Before you begin your road trip, ask yourself, do you really need five full suitcases? With a 2026 Kia Sportage X-Pro's class-leading cargo space, you'll have room for what you need. Find out more at your local Kia dealer today. Keep the adventure going. Kia, movement that inspires. While 800-3334, Kia for details, always drive safely and obey all traffic laws. Comparisons based on second-row legroom and cargo space behind second-row seats in the subcompact SUV class, according to Kia's segmentation as of October 2025. He said, um, listen, give me two years, you'll never want to come back, the adventure of a lifetime, and nobody will know you're gone. You get deployed at 17 and a half, and I was deployed from the New York Athletic Club. And we got to actually deploy right out of the locker room from, you know, you're being up to the ship and then the ship takes off and you're gone for 20 years. It's a very hard pill to swallow, but that's exactly how I experienced it. I was taken at 10 years old.

2:04I was taken and I was worked through several black programs. I was privately owned in the beginning. I did six or seven years on Earth. I just went all the stuff for the programs began for me, specifically the tracking that they have been doing to sell to kid. It followed me all the way through the military. And at that point, I got the dig of our sea, that's where I was taking off the planet. I just like opened that floodgate for me. And then all of these recalls started coming in and I was just like, oh my gosh, and the way I was describing it, she's like, I've never had this with a client, but that you're describing a parallel life right now. It's a combination of human and other species. I was able to remember the name on their uniform. It's USS R-Corp. That was putting me through some kind of recruitment tests from age three until 12 and 12 is when

3:04I was potentially well taken. He said, with your scores, I guarantee you'll make commander and you'll make pilot. And I said, pilot of what? And he said, four kilometer long starship. He told me what was going to happen. He said, you volunteer for the program, we'll put you in, you'll do 20 years, we'll send you back in time 20 years, age regrets for you 20 years, wipe your memory and you'll just wake up in bed like nothing happened. It's almost beyond words, it's beyond counter-election of how this could happen. New Webber's master minding this, the Air Force, working with extraterrestrials, working with a lot of pretty wild technology, which I'll also get into. It's really beyond fathomable, it's beyond fathomable.

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6:11And we're going to run that through the conference also. That out of the way today, we are joined by James Bartley. If you guys aren't familiar with him, he is. He has vast knowledge of reptilians and and other, you know, other related topics. But he's done some incredible lectures before and I'm an experienced here in a lot that he covers actually is things that I have personally experienced and he's an experienced or also. So we're going to, we're obviously going to cover that and we're going to just spread the awareness and let people know. How deep does infiltration goes because honestly, it's been the basis behind the reality of our matrix for eons now. And it's, it's, we need to expose this because that's the only way we're going to really get past it. So welcome to the show, James. Uh, thank you, Tyler. Thank you. I'm pleased to be here. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, we're, we're, I'm really excited about this. This is something that, like I said, uh, it's unfortunately near and dear to my heart.

7:13But I think, you know, we're all putting these positions for a reason and what better way to expose it than to know it inside out and I know you know it inside out also. So, um, really, how did this start for you? What, like what happened in your life that made you start this research? The, uh, the catalyzing event or series of events was when I came back from Germany in September, 1990, I was there for a summer, uh, uh, language program and after that was over, then I flew back to San Jose, California where I lived at the time. Now I'd had a series of events throughout my life, but I didn't have a conceptual framework with which to understand it. To me, there were just a series of anomalous events, some of them which I would have categorized at the time as psychic for lack of a better term. I didn't have UFO sightings. I did have things which I believe were UFO related, but at the time, I didn't really want

8:18to go on that direction because, you know, the implications were too frightening, quite frankly. You know what I mean? Because by then I read about Travis Walton's, uh, experience I'd read about, uh, Calvin Parker's experience, uh, in Pasagula, uh, Mississippi, because I was, I've always been to have it reader about this stuff, right? Uh, so I had a series of events in childhood, teenage years going into my adult life. And for me, I'm one of those guys where it comes right in cycles every few years. I have another series of events and they run the gamut from, uh, full on physical encounters to, uh, astral abductions, uh, astral dreamscape, stage managed dreams, I call them, uh, just a variety of things, a lot of synchronicity events, a lot of close UFO sightings. So I didn't really put it together until I came back from Germany and just to back up a little bit a couple of weeks before I was due to go back fly out of Zurich and go

9:21back to California. I started having that pro-dromal feeling again, uh, feeling of being watched, creepy feeling of, uh, you know, presences, what have you. At the time I lived on a guest house on the banks of the Rhine and along the banks of the Rhine there, the banks are very steep. And so I was at a guest house, a large guest house and my room was the very top room of the whole guest house, right? So when I left my light on there, it was like a beacon, everyone across the river and Switzerland, if they happen to be there, it could see that whoever is in that guest house in that top room, they've got their lights on, right? Well, I started sleeping with my lights on again because I was getting that creepy, trolley feeling and people were telling me, oh, you were up late last night, I didn't know when to tell them, uh, along the banks of the Rhine there, there's a stretch of about 90, 100 feet where they've taken the dense foliage because right there on the banks of the Rhine

10:24River on the German side, that's where the German, uh, side of the Black Forest ends, the Black Forest of Dems, Fairy Tales and all that, right? So a lot of dense foliage and what they did along this one stretch of the river bank there, they had a pedestrian sidewalk and what they did was they took the dense foliage and either it grew naturally this way or they kind of molded it so to speak so that it was a tunnel, okay? And then, uh, like the last two, two weeks I was there, there's no illumination, there was pitch black, I dreaded having to walk through that tunnel of foliage. So it sounds corny but I took the sprinting through there, okay, here we go and then I would just put my head to that like Ricky Henderson, like heading for home play, you know what I mean? Just sprinting through there to get the other side where I can get a breathe aside relief, leaving sleeping with a lights on again, so that was the lead up and then I get on the plane,

11:28go back to California and here I am back in San Jose, California, which has always been a hotspot of UFO, ET, deep black military activity. Lots of spooky aerospace intelligence related activity there, just the stones throw away for about, you know, 15, 20-minute drive from where I lived in northern San Jose was where Lockheed missile spaces, the blue cube, the NSA tracking facility, NASA Ames, etc, etc. It was all there and then not coincidentally, it was around that area, not too far from where I live, where Silicon Valley has been now understand that really developed, so that whole place has always been very spooky, always very, you know, tilted towards the supernatural, if you will. Before you begin your road trip, ask yourself, do you really need five full suitcases? With the 2026 Kia Sportage X-Pros class leading cargo space, you'll have room for what you need.

12:32Find out more at your local Kia dealer today, keep the adventure going. Kia, movement that inspires. Call 800-333-4 Kia for details, always drive safely and obey all traffic laws. Comparisons based on second-row legroom and cargo space behind second-row seats in the subcompact SUV class, according to Kia segmentation as of October 2025. So here I am back in San Jose, and then just in a matter of several days, a couple of weeks after coming back, I had a series of UFOs that one of which was a gray ET looking at it, made through my TV. If you remember the old days, it wasn't this 24-7 cable TV coverage. After a certain point of time, you know, one, two, two, 30 AM, they would do the national anthem, the color bands would show up on the screen, and then it would turn to snow, right? If you remember. I don't know, we're too young for that, but I know exactly what we're talking about.

13:33That's what it used to be like. Right. I used to have an 8-track player underneath my 71-climate road runner, okay? Kind of dating myself. And for a director, really quick, don't feel silly about being scared like that, because when this started happening for me, I was 25, 26 years old, and I found myself afraid of the dark, afraid to go to bed, actually. And I know I can relate, but yeah, continue. Well, also, what some of these ETUs do is they like to play with synchronicities, they like to time and synchronize things that have a real impactful meaning to you, right? And that played a part in it. So anyway, I fell asleep in the lights on. Again, TV was on, and in my mind's eye, okay, I'm laying there, sleeping. But I had a split-screen image in my mind, if you will. One half of my consciousness was in my bedroom looking at my TV screen, which was snow.

14:39The other half of my, of my split-screen in my mind, as I'm laying there sleeping, was my brother in his room, the other side of the house. And he's still up. He's got his TV on, right? So what happened was then this gray face showed up amidst the snow. And then it started lack of a better term, zapping me in my brain. I could feel these electrical currents, jolts, seemingly emanating from my TV right into my brain. Right. But that was one half of the mental image. The other half was my brother in his room, seeing the same gray image coming out of the snow on his TV. And he was wide away. Now, in order to test his reality, he punched his dresser, boom.

15:41Like a lot of abductees, I, back then, I used to have my bed up against a wall. So I guess subconsciously, in theory, I had one of my flanks covered, which is a joke, as they go through the walls anyway. But anyway, I had my bed up against the wall. And when he punched his dresser in that split-screen image I'm telling you about, it sounded as if he punched the wall that I was laying next to bang. I woke up, I immediately looked at a TV and it would just snow again. But I know what I just seen, I know what I just experienced. So there I was, like, kind of cowering. And it was a flashback, that mentality, that state of siege that I felt myself to be. And I go back to my childhood days where I could have the room fully illuminated. But there I am, beneath a pile of blankets, pillows, I'd have a mound above me and have a little air pocket, right? And then when the air started to grow still, I'd lift up the blankets,

16:44get some air in. And I used to do things like set up booby traps. I mean, long before home alone, I mean, I would have yarn, I would have toy swing by on yarn. And then because I felt like when I was a kid, and I didn't have a context for it again, that I was under, I was being washed. I was, you know, I had a creepy feeling and certain periods of my childhood. So fast forward back to that experience. My brother punches the, his dresser bang, it sounds like he punches my wall. I wake up and I look at the TV, so he'd just snow again. Okay. So there I am, kind of cowering again, right? And next morning, I go out to the living room and my brother is sitting there and he's glaring at me. He's giving me these dirty looks and I'm just coming to go and go into the fridge and just doing my normal morning routine. Finally, I have to ask him, dude, what's up? Why do you keep glaring at me like that, right? What did I do? At first, he was reluctant to talk, then he said, follow me. So he took me, there was better, when he showed me the dent in his dresser. And I said, yeah,

17:46what's your point? He said, then he laid out this whole story about this ET looking at him out of the TV and then in order to test his reality, he punched the dresser and left the dent in it, right? And I said, now I didn't mention anything about what I'd experienced the night before. So I said, well, why are you mad at me? How does this experience cause you to have this animosity towards me? He didn't have an answer for that, right? So I just went back in my own room. Also, incidentally, my brother, my younger brother has figured in a lot of my UFO related dreams too. And then a little further down the track during that same two week time friend, I had a missing time experience. I dropped off my buddy after I promised I picked him up from work. And then I dropped him off at his house. He worked swing shift. We had the same, we worked in the same company for a while. So we would finish 10, 30 at night. And then I dropped him off at his place, a hung around long enough to see the beginning of Jay Leno's monologue for the night show,

18:51right? And then got in my car, my 71 clean of throat, brother. And then just as I'm making a left onto the street, and I only lived like about 400, 500 yards and make a left to make a right than I'm in my house, basically. So I'm just about to make a left at this four-way intersection. And I look over to my right, and that's the last thing I remember. The next thing I remember was waking up abruptly, sitting in my car parked perfectly in my front yard. And I'm always one of those kinds of guys, I don't know, call it OCD or anal or retender or something, but I have to park my car perfectly. One of those kinds of guys, you know, perfect spacing from tires to the curb, etc, etc. So there I was parked perfectly in my front yard on the street. Immediately, when I came to, I looked across the street to this house on the corner where when I first moved to San Jose,

19:57the neighbors there actually had sheep pinned inside that fence enclosure, right? So I looked directly across the street, okay, that house where the sheep used to live, that's there. I look over to the right, that's my house, okay, I'm back, but I knew something had happened because I felt my body felt as if it was like made of lead. I could barely move. And I had these electric currents running through my body. And in the back of my mind, pushing us away to the forefront of my mind, something about UFOs aliens, and I didn't even want to go there because, you know, I had that TV experience, I had a close flyby of a UFO experience synchronistically, which I didn't get into, all leading up to this. So I knew something of a UFO-related nature had happened by that point, and I'm sitting there for a good 15 minutes terrified. And I was starting to get sensation back in my body because my body, like I said, I felt like lead. Finally, I summoned up the courage to get out of the car. I get out of my car, I'm looking up into the sky, I'm walking backwards towards

21:01the front gate, right? And then I'm, uh, long story short, I get into the house, I go to my bedroom, and because I was going through the skittish kind of phase, I had a lot of things plugged into a power stick. And then when I, you know, would come home, I would just hit the power stick and everything would come on the TV, the stereo, because at that time I was oftentimes sleeping with a TV, and that's why I had that TV experience, etc, etc. So I go into my bedroom, stiff as a board, I hit the, uh, the switch in the power stick, the room lights up, the TV turns on, and the rate, the stereo starts blasting out. And of all the songs, it starts blasting out, it blasts out, lights out by UFO, right? Lights out, lights on, Luna, uh, cheese, you know. So I go to sleep, and then a short while later, I won't go into it, take up too much time, but I've talked about the system, my previous interviews and podcasts, I had a full-blown waking consciousness experience,

22:07when I woke up in my bedroom, and there are three reptilian grays there. They had the big black eyepieces, grayish, someone of a bluish tint, stocky, they were not skinny, they were not frail, they had kind of a blue vest on with some kind of symbol on, and instead of fingers and claws, they just had a long claw, right? Dr. Carla Turner called them chicken claws. They were reptilian grays, in fact, that exact type is mentioned in her book into the French, when her friend Fred is getting regressed by Barbara Bartholick, he has his experience with these reptilian grays, except they were wearing red suits, as I saw, we're wearing blue vest, but anyway, so I come to, and I looked down, I will look over to my right, what was odd was, I had my TV sitting on a chair there before I went to bed, I know it was there, but I guess they moved there or something, because that reptilian gray was standing right where the TV should have been, and I look up at him at his face, and I look down at his clawed hands, and I was like, oh crap,

23:12and then there's one at the foot of the bed, and there's one over by the door, and long story short, I won't go into details, things just kind of unraveled from there, found myself up in a big ship, you know, they laid me out on this table, and proceeded to do what I call flexing exercises, without even touching me, they were able to somehow, made me do all these sit-ups and stomach crunchures, and at one point I was on my stomach. Before you begin your road trip, ask yourself, do you really need five full suitcases? With the 2026 Kia Sportage X Pro's class-leading cargo space, you'll have room for what you need. Find out more at your local Kia dealer today, keep the adventure going, Kia, movement that inspires. Call 800-333-4, Kia for details, always drive safely and obey all traffic laws, comparisons based on second-row legroom and cargo space behind second-row seats in the subcompact SUV class according to Kia segmentation as of October 2025. And my upper torso and my legs were bent so far back that the back of my head and my heels

24:13were actually touching, okay? And by now I knew something that was going on, I knew it was real, I knew I was in deep trouble, right? And there was a being who many people refer to as a doctor or the surgeon or whatever, and then there was this little smaller tannish brownish beings kind of screwing around and in between grunts, I asked this being, what are you doing, right? And it said telepathically, we're taking your energy and had no idea what he meant, okay? So long story short, that's what set me off on this because there was no denying it, I'd had a series of experiences that even get into one more. And then what it did was it compelled me to sit with a pad of yellow legal paper and write down every single anomalous experience I had since childhood. And after several pages, I realized whatever this is, which I strongly believe at some level aliens were involved, right? It's been with me all my life. And

25:18as a way to regain control, I've always been something of a reader. So I started driving to East San Jose to the Eastbridge Mall because they had a B Dalton bookstore there, and I cleaned them out of every alien abduction related book they had, you know, the Bud Hopkins books, Communion, which I saved from last, because I didn't like the cover of it. The Betty Andres and Books, which were classics written by Ray Fowler. So that provided insight. And then eventually, despite all the activity in San Jose, back then, I don't know about now, but that then from a research perspective, and I didn't know anybody anyway, from a research perspective, it was very much a backwater, right? The few researchers I knew in San Jose, they were very standoffish, they were very territorial. Oh, what do you want to talk to my abductees for, right? I just want to share experiences, you know, trade hard stories, right? Well, I think so. Well, please, I was just going to say, I mean, things are a lot different now as far as it's a lot more common talk than it used to be. So it's a lot easier to discuss this stuff now,

26:23and still, you know, the main focus I really want to eventually get to is to let people understand, help people understand the vastness of this, how it's just infiltrated all aspects of our society, all the way down to the individual, like your experiences, because I'm sure what you just shared is going to, you know, other people are going to relate. It's not just you, it's not just me. This is happening. They're loose farming all of our energy, and yeah, so I understand like back then, obviously, it wasn't as easy to talk about this stuff as it is probably now. Yeah, and thank you for pointing that out. My mentor, Barbara Bartholick, she pointed out decades ago that every single person on this planet in some way, shape or form, is impacted by the alien slash reptilian presence, absolutely every single person. And now we're seeing that in space, because this rollout, these mass treatments, so-called, there's nothing remotely human about any of that. There's nothing remotely human about these

27:26restrictions, about the ocean, about the narcissistic abuse where we're all being subjected to, collectively, because nothing remotely human about it. And so once I got on the research trail, and I eventually moved down to San Diego, which was a key event, because I got away from the backwater of San Jose, became a member of the San Diego Yofo Society, hooked up with Evie Logan eventually, and then through long distance means, back then we spent a lot of time on a telephone. I became a close associate and colleague of Barbara Bartholick, and she really helped me out. She was my spiritual mama. She took me under her wing. By that point, she'd already had 30 plus years of reptilian research under her belt, just regressing hundreds of people. What the ET's do a lot of times is they set up screen layers. There's a screen for the abductee, then there's a screen for the hypnotic regressionist. And most regressionists dead end

28:32at the screen level, for them. And it's usually a generic can kind of abduction experience medical experience, procedures, et cetera, et cetera. Barbara had the means because she was trained by a world-class hypnotic regressionist to get below that, to where the real nitty-gritty is. And so I had independently come to the conclusion that the, and I think we at some level, we come with a soul-level understanding and over-soul-level understanding. Once we come the grips for this, and once we start to delve into it, this intuitive process unfolds. And I've always had this affinity, this kind of connection to books. And again, back then, it was books that we were into, because it was really no internet. So I found myself guided at different times of my life to use bookstores, and I would just happen to find the gem that I needed to find. While I'm in this process, I'm in the San Diego UFO Society. I'm networking finally with other

29:37alien abilities and other researchers. And immediately, I was drawn to the reptilian aspect of it, because I talked to people that had reptilian experiences, and because of my deep interest in the deep black military aspects of this as well, we were getting a lot of reports out of the high desert of Southern California of people that were having not only hardcore reptilian experiences, but on occasion, sometimes more frequently, they would be kidnapped by deep black elements of the military, taken to a facility oftentimes, sometimes they were taken to a corporate office suite in town somewhere, but often it's not they were taken to a facility either above ground or taken underground, and they would really work them over, stick them with needles and do all these other things to them. We called the military type cases back then, the term myelab didn't exist. We didn't know what else to call them. So I was already on that trail, finding out what was going on the high desert of Southern California. There's a lot of the antelope valley is where the aerospace

30:43headquarters, if you will, is where Lockheed and at the time Rockwell and a number of other aerospace corporations had huge underground facilities where they developed a lot of this alien technology. And so I was just what I got into, and then synchronistically through a series of synchronous events, I got reunited, if you will, with Barbara Brottelick and their and my research just really took off. And you were just talking about more the physical aspect of abductions, but a lot of this is they they're able to telepathically project their consciousness into one's mind and create screen memories and even make themselves appear as someone else. And you know that I've heard you talk about that before, but I've experienced this. And I think we even we even see this in the world stage with some of our politicians and you know the just term shape shifting. It's it's not necessarily that they're shape shifting, but they're tricking our mind and we're perceiving them as a human when they're actually not. And then they have the reptilian

31:49like in what they call them imposter humans, they look no different than a human. And you know besides the fact that you might see their eye every once in a while, they turn into a slit or whatever. So that the deception is really what I want to get into and how they're able to deceive us and manipulate us. And this is happening on all levels of our society. Indeed, it's through a long term process of genetic hybridization. After the most recent series of selectionally driven cataclysms, there is a much smaller surface population base that they had to deal with. So they began the reptilians, Draco and other arctic ET groups began this process of hybridization and viewing their DNA and their behaviors, characteristics, etc. into particular bloodlines. And within the context of some of

32:52these bloodlines at the time, this elite, if you will, the astronomer priesthood class emerged which created the laws, dished out the penalties and all that. And around the same time, we had the supplanting of symbol language which speaks to us from a soul, over soul level to the alphabet language which shunted us into the left brain. And with the alphabet language comes words, comes edicts, mandates, dogmas, and a priesthood to enforce all that, right? So that was a radical abrupt change and of course around the same time because these beings are so evil, right? The ones that are the controllers here. It was the eradication of the original feminine principle and the replacement with this harsh, misogynistic mentality. Again,

33:55wielded by this priesthood and we saw these themes of that and the witch hunts which lasted for hundreds of years, inquisition, etc., etc. The simultaneous eradication over many centuries of First Nations traditional lore of the shamanic medicine man tradition, medicine woman tradition. That was native to this planet and also to some degree imported here from from off-world by other ET groups. So they got rid of the old and they didn't have as many people to have to deal with because so many of them were wiped out in these celestial driven cataclysm, they created these hybridized bloodlines, they imbued their honorous characteristics into these bloodlines, of murderousness, repatiusness, bloodlust, etc., etc. Service to self. Service to self, absolutely. And so they created and in linear time terms, all this was in a blink of an eye. The plan was to

35:02by allowing certain technologies to come into the possession of the deep black military aerospace community, many of the key members of which already were from the sub-Rosa hybridized bloodline anyway, right. All these fraternal orders of Freemasons and what have you. So many of them were already sprinkled throughout the service and subsurface intelligence, military, political world. So when this technology began to come into possession of the earthlings, if you will, obviously it was eventually, it was the same hybridized bloodlines that gain control of this technology and perish the thought they would actually allow that technology to get out into wider circulation to benefit us. Now it's all about artificial scarcity, it's all about divisiveness creating wars, etc., etc. So what they've done is all these honorous characteristics,

36:03behaviors, they've imbued that into their hybridized elites. They've filter that down through the school system because they knew that and they get to go back to what Barbara Barber said, everyone on planet earth has been affected by this. So someone could come, someone could be of pure heart, just a wonderful person to be around, but in their childhood and growing up, they're just surrounded by narcissistic abuse of reptilian hybrids that were in a chessboard, cosmic fashion placed around them at key junctions in their life to knock them off, of course, destabilize them, neutralize them, destroy their lives, etc., etc. So a lot of us have had to navigate through this obstacle course for a long time. They intimidate, their goal is to intimidate the star seeds, right? And then they get them, lead them astray off their spiritual path. And eventually, like me and you, like you receive the receiving end of these attacks, right?

37:09And they want you to throw in a towel, essentially, and just terminate your assignment here on earth. And that's, you know, that's what we're seeing on a world stage right now. We're seeing this amongst everybody. And it's not just like things are going wrong for you. This is all done by design. Absolutely. And when they really have you in their crosshairs, you can have financial problems, you could have car problems, you could have employment problems, you could have, I mean, it just runs the gamut. It's what Harvey and Evie Morgan, I talked about like this big time spiritual warfare attack, right? And all because you're on the hunt, you're on the hunt for truth, you're trying to find what your mission is here because you know that at some level, we're here for some greater purpose. Every single one of us, not just us on the spot gas, but everyone has the potential to make a profound impact in this. And so what they do is that they

38:13just surround us with all these narcissistic reptilian hybrids. I mean, I grew up around a bunch of pathological liars in my, in my immediate family and in my extended family, my cousins. So people were lying to me from day one. And that that benefited me because after a while, it wasn't just that I tuned them out here from so and so, cousin so and so, what's he going to lie about today, right? But there's a vibe that comes along with that. There's a vibe which I intuitively picked up on without even consciously realizing it. And then later, when I was in this field, I would pick up that vibe again and instantly, and I trust my still silent voice. Because usually when it tells me that, well, whatever this person is peddling, whatever theories they're pushing, there's nothing in it for me. I'm not going to make a value judgment about them or the material. It's just that, you know, I got to allocate my time and resources in other directions, right? So it's helped me to navigate because the UFO community, especially in the

39:13early 90s when I first became an active member. And it was what you were talking about a moment ago of how they strive to knock us off our true path. The new age is one of those traps where they would like nothing more than people like us to be just, you know, blissing out and just tuning all this stuff out because it's too negative. And we're just going to visualize it, a never ending champagne cruise in the fifth dimension, right? That's what they want us to do. That's how they neutralize us. Some of us are a bit more stubborn, right? So, you know, getting back to my story and how it fits in, eventually what we found out was not only did myself and others that I networked with, not only in Southern California, but around the US, not only did we find out that, yes, the reptilians, the key players behind this as well as the mantis beings, what's starting to come out now, but what myself and some of my colleagues have known for some time is that these octopus beings too are key players in this. They're not just

40:19ethnoplasmic interdimensional, although they have that capability. Like the reptilians and some of the other beings, they're masters of density and frequency. They can alter their density at will. Streaming intelligent. Streaming intelligent. Even in earthly terms, the octopus are extremely intelligent, but in cosmic, galactic and beyond terms, and these are quite large octopi that are, I think these enclosures. Do you remember that story in Antarctica where the group of scientists encountered an octopus like that? I want to know that story. Do you know what I'm talking about? They encountered an extremely intelligent octopus and diving somewhere in Antarctica. I'm not going to do the story any justice right now, but yeah, they encountered something that what they would basically describe as an ET. Yeah, like Barbara Barclay had worked with a guy named Riley Martin, a black guy,

41:20very sharp. You can see in the series of videos that Barbie did with Riley, and that's what Barbie style was. She would videotape the abductee, let them describe in their own words, what they experienced, what their perceptions of it were, what they gleaned from these experiences. It was a very powerful technique in her infrequent lectures. She would just play these videos of different abductees, and then in between the videos, she would do a commentary, right? It was very powerful because you can tell that these people were not coached by Barbie, what to say. These are people that have seen and experienced what they're describing, and you mentioned a key point earlier, it's not just physical experiences. These alien abductions, they occur all across the board. Asteroly, stage managed dreams, psychically, it's not just the stereotypical medical procedures that are done to people. It's much more than that, and a lot of it can happen in your own bedroom at night. You don't have to be taken up into a ship, right? Or

42:22conversely, they can just pull you through a portal, and then you're either underground or in some other dimension, so it varies. So Barbie was worked with a guy named Riley Martin, just to make a quick point, and he was on board a very large ship, which he estimated to be about 15 miles long. I don't know how he came up with that estimate. Maybe he was told that by some of the ET's, but in one part of the ship inside of a huge enclosure was this very large octopus being, and since that time, I saw that video in the 90s. I've spoken to a few other people who have likewise been taken on to big space stations, and likewise have seen these huge octopus beings, but these octopus beings can scale themselves up or down. People have seen them, smaller versions of them interdimensionally, even coming out of TVs and coming out of PC monitors and what have you. Anyway, I'm going to say something. I mean, our reality is nothing what we think it is, but yeah, if you don't have an awareness of what you're talking about right now, and things are happening to you, like like Dickie said, they can project screen memories and all the above,

43:27that can really fuck with you and drive you to insanity, honestly. So it's important to realize that they're able, what they're capable of as far as that goes, because it was tripping me out for years, but then once you're aware of it, you can actually start, you realize there's tools, and you can actually defend yourself and protect yourself, and it doesn't have to be like that, although they're very smart, and they adapt, and they're clever, and they'll find a way in if you're not constantly aware, especially doing this type of work. Yes, absolutely. When they become aware that we are on the search for truth, we're on the quest, we will go through stages, periods of our life, and we're subjected to a lot of spiritual warfare reprisals all across the board, almost nightly at times, we'll be asked to be abducted, and we messed with in some fashion, we'll wake up the morning with marks and bruises and puncture holes, but all we can do is just just keep marching on, that's all we can do, after a while what happens, not saying that we're out of

44:28the woods yet, but what happens is just like any other bully, they look for easier prey, is what they do, they try a lot of these things on us, and then when the fear and intimidation doesn't have the kind of impact on us that they would like, they'll just find easier prey, and in my case, they used to do a lot of stage managed dreams, where they would send these characters into my dreamscape, which I knew were reptilians. Oh my goodness, same exact thing happens in me, go ahead. But they would be humans, like for example, in this one experience I had, right? I was in your stereotypical kitchenette at a worksite, right? Small space, a phone on the phone on the wall, old-school phone on the wall, table, you know, kitchen stuff there, little fridges, and then I'm in there, and then these three guys show up. Now they all look

45:33identical, sometimes their screens aren't too effective. They look like identical Filipino guys, except one was taller than the other. Now this happens with a reptilian sometimes, where you either see them in an experience, and they look like reptilians, or they look like fake humans, but sometimes the alpha, if you will, or any, right, a taller one than the others, is there, and it seems to be the boss. So again, in this dreamscape, stage managed dreamscape scenario, I'm in this little kitchenette at a worksite, and then there's, and they had the corneus outfits, they have these like brown outfits, brown shirts with like kind of a yellow diagonal, it reminded me of the terrible looking San Diego Padres uniforms back in the day, right? And brown pants, and they all look identical, except one was taller than the other, and the one was just had this like grimace of rage at me all the time, the shooting evil at me through his eyes, and I knew immediately what they were. They were reptilians pretending to be humans,

46:35and just to rub it in, they kind of make themselves a Filipino, right? So I pick up the phone, and I dial, and I call it Barbara Bartola, and I go, oh, yeah, I got these three dickheads here, and I'm at work, and they're reptilians, but I know they're reptilians, right? And because I'm talking to Barbie, or I think I'm talking to Barbie, the lead one, the taller one, starts to get really enraged, and he starts making these threatening like actions towards me. At the time, this is important. At the time, I was living in the little studio apartment in San Diego, I mean, small, I could be sitting in a toilet and cooking breakfast, that's how small this place was, right? And my bed was right up against this large bay window, right? And then down below is the terrace, the deck for the unit below, right? And so here I am laying in bed in this astral dreamscape manipulation, and I'm on the phone and I'm getting irritated.

47:38I'm talking to Barbara Bartola, and then this entity is just messing with me, getting in my face. Finally, he pisses me off so bad, I lunge at him, and then in real life, I'm crashing into that bay window. Unfortunately, I didn't fall through it. See, that was the trick, it was trying to bait me, right? Into like lunging for it, I did, I fell for it. Fortunately, the glass held, otherwise crash, I would have been cut the ribbons falling down to the bottom, who knows, what would have happened? So I bounced off it. And then I woke up and I go, oh, those occurs. Sometimes I wonder, like, I would love to have had a camera in place, because I've experienced the same thing where your physical body, you're fighting this thing in the astral realm or the dream state, and then it manifests into the physical and upon a waking state. And a lot of times it's you breaking free from some sort of paralysis or whatever it

48:38might be, but sometimes I wake up lashing and covers a flying and dogs, who knows what's going on, but yeah, it's interesting to think about too, this isn't just, like they don't look for immediate results, like they plan everything out. Everything's very well planned out to guarantee their success, not just individually, but across the board for everybody. They don't care about the immediate results. This is a big master plan, and that's what we're trying to expose. Yes, and from an alien abduction perspective, and moving out, expanding out to all the society, all of civilization, what they do, what I've come to understand about the reptilians and some of their cosmic vassals, some of the gray fashions that work for them work in aligns for them at some level. What they seem to do is modify our behavior in certain ways, and you know, not casting any value judgments on anyone in their lifestyle and their lifestyle choices, but they can run the gamut from

49:44changing the, let's say the sexual orientation of people on the one hand, but also making them more impulsive, making them more violent, making them more rage-filled, or conversely making them very timid and passive, and what have you, turning them into doormats, turning them into, you know, people pleasers, right? Like to give an example, when I was a boy, I would climb anything, right? And then when I was in my teenage years, when I was having a lot of alien abduction experiences, but didn't understand it at the time, I kept having these dreams where I was stuck on like a, like a sheer cliff face, right? No footholes, no hand holes, I'm just stuck there. And then the only way to break out of that was the way my simple mind worked was, oh, just jump, get it over, so I would jump, make myself wake up from the terror of falling, and then before too long I had a fear of heights go figure, because this happened repetitively, right? And then what happened also was they did an overlay on that. This is how they get people

50:48turn them into arachnophobes, and that took me a while to get over that, right? Where I just kept having dreams of big spiders all over the place, and spiders coming around me, and it turned out later, much later in our work that, well, yes, there are these weird spider bot thingies that not only seem to be, yes, not only did they seem to be, there seems to be like an AI variant, if you will, but there also seems to be an interdimensional real kind of critter, or critters that are spider-like in appearance. I had Kim Russell on my show, and she talked about as a little girl, and these things would, you know, come in over bedroom, she would, they would be crawling on over bed and she'd scream and turn the lights on, they would be gone, and they turned the lights off. And you woke up to those before you heard, right? Multiple times, I've seen those, yep. Yeah, always, always when I'm waking up is when I see them, yeah. And it was right, when we're waking up, that if they want us to forget about a particular experience, then they could like, aronisize our dreams, manipulate us to trigger the sexual

51:49arousal mechanism, so we lay their fantasizing about some hottie for a moment, just a moment, but that's enough to make us forget about what we just woke up from. You know, when we're cleaning onto that last vestage of the experience, yeah, I know, I had an experience that was on a craft, or I was in a warehouse, it's a thing was going on. Oh, hot chick, right? Suddenly, you forget all that stuff. That's a manipulation, and people need to realize that that's how they work on us at the emotional psychic psychological level. The whole psychology field was created by reptilian hybrids mucking with our heads, right? Look what it is now. So, you know, getting back to the the dream manipulation, then I found myself in dreams where I'd be stuck in a sheer cliff face, and here are these big spiders crawling towards people on the cliff, okay? So they're combining this stuff, and I jump off again. So develop the rapophobia, develop the fear of heights, and they can do this with clowns, you know, terrorize people with clowns and their dreams. I mean,

52:52I had this one experience. I don't know if it was more ET related or kind of I'm thinking it's more military mind control related where I had this horrible, astral dreamscape, virtual environment experience where this balloon cloud was coming after me, and you know, like when you rub two balloons together, it makes that squeaky kind of squeely kind of noise, right? So here I am, and it's one of those things you were just talking about where, you know, you're lashing out, you're pushing on them, and all this changes our behavior in subtle and not so subtle ways. If we don't have a conceptual framework and realize the pattern that's going on, we could fall into certain free-determined behavioral categories that they want to put us in, and they will try, we're going to turn this kind of a pedophile, if that isn't work, we're going to turn them into this, if that isn't work, we're going to try this, and eventually if you fight all that stuff off, like I said, they'll go, you know, look for weaker prey. Yeah, and they control people through their

53:52vices also, whatever alcohol cigarettes, drugs, whatever, you know, self-medication is a big part of this. Yeah, once they get somebody addicted to something like that, you know, it's unfortunately game over for them unless they can come back. Yes, and then also especially, and Barbara Bartholick was on of this decade ago, the crank aspect of it, where they get people hooked on crystal meth through derivatives such as commonly known as crank in California and in the Midwest, because that's a big-type doorway to open, because what it does is it lowers their frequency bandwidth into the happy hunting ground of all these entities, they just jump into people and take them over. And so anyway, a lot of it is behavior modification. You often hear researchers say, well, you know, they're studying our emotions. Well, what do they really mean by that? But Barbara Bartholick found out in the course of her investigations is, and I experience this personally, they traumatize the hell out of us, where they could be from anything from

54:55pitting children to make them fight against one another, to turn one or more into a bully or make them, you know, an aggressive child. What Barbie called years ago, and look what's happened now with the cultural Marxism and critical race theory, everything else, but Barbie called decades ago the breed out, the love agenda, just the breed love out of people genetically and through psychological indoctrination, just make them turn them in a spiteful kind of. Thank you. Thank you for bringing that up because the love aspect of it, actually the latest Matrix movie, which not a lot of people were a fan of, but I actually found it pretty intriguing, actually, knowing what we know. There's tons of disclosure in it. And that at the very end, the guy is like, he might as well be in a reptilian talking to them and telling them how they've basically programmed people away from love to where they don't even want true love. They don't even want that that passion and that connection and that union anymore because they've been so programmed

55:57away from it that it's just, even if it was, even if it was laid out in front of them, it's just like unappealing to them because we've been so programmed to go for the superficial aspects of reality and materialistic aspects. And then obviously, they're always manipulating us sexually and that's, that's one of the, that's one of the main ways that they do it that they control us. The vapid vacuous just don't give a rip mentality that I'm not picking any particular group, but exemplified in many cases by so-called millennials, but also people well in their 40s and 50s, if they've had this communist socialist Luciferian bent to them. And a lot of it has to do with the indoctrination too. We're just surrounded by all these teachers, counselors, administrators that are basically reptilian human hybrids that are spouting the Marxist communist creed, right? And

56:58what happened was just to look at it from a geopolitical perspective, a lot of people became tolerant. People don't really understand the McCarthy years for what they were. McCarthy, if there was anyone, we hear a term bandied about a lot of these days controlled opposition, and a lot of people don't really know what that means. I take the good with the bad, okay? People are choosing such and such as being a controlled opposition. Well, that's how well and good, but is it causing some people to be red-pilled? Well, if it is, I take the good with the bad. I don't care if he's controlled. Yeah. And they don't understand also how celebrities and burgeoning and soon-to-beast celebrities of once sort or another in the sports world or whatever. They take all these pictures of them, and those celebrities have no idea the editing that's going to take place, whether they're going to shade one side of their face. Oh, look, the black and white, dark, light aspect. Oh, look at the thing what he's doing with his hands, and he's covering his eye with, you know, with one hand, and did the guy really do that during the photo shoot? We don't know.

58:00You know, clever editing. Suddenly, it splashed all over the media. Oh, look, this person was a shell all along. Well, maybe, maybe not, okay? See, people aren't really thinking on an intuitive level. But, but anyway, you know, getting back to the point I was going to make, the, the cultural Marxism was such which itself is a reptilian self-hating outward projection agenda. It was designed to trigger that our complex mentality within people, the victim identity politics, make them like lash out at all these institutions, and the rage is always directed. It's always directed at white people. It's directed at this. It's directed at, you know, anything to do with American traditions, right? Because you have all these people that are being manipulated at different levels, and it's all cult abuse. What will you find when, when one

59:04studies the behaviors of a lot of these hardcore serial killers, they were really steeped in the occult, they're really steeped in a double worship, really steeped in the ritualism. Well, in varying degrees, that has been shoved down the throats of people childhood on up through all these schools and indoctrination. What have you? And so it's moving us away from the love aspect, getting us into the egocentric self-centered project, all this unrequited, unresolved rage issues out syndrome, and also the androgyny aspect, the gender dysphoria, as they're calling it, now aspect, which is, you know, the Baffamé agenda essentially. I remember years ago when I was in San Jose, and I was at the financial district La Hoya, very richy area, and it's where all the banking institutions that a lot of corporations are, and I was at this reflecting pool for science applications, international corporations, it's infamous contractor for the defense department,

1:00:05intelligence community, anyway, they had two statues there. One of them was an oversized statue of a guy in biblical garb, you know, the staff, you know, the shepherds outfit, et cetera, et cetera, and the plaque read the old man, and over to the side was another big oversized statue, and it said the new man, and similar biblical garb, except they didn't have the hood on, the individual was bald, and it was androgynous. You couldn't tell if it was a male or a female, all right? So the old man, the new man, and the new man is androgynous. You can't tell if it's a male or a female, and that's one step below, one run below, this whole transhumanist turned everyone into a bot boy kind of syndrome, which is what we see now. We see so many people just plugged into their digital devices, and again, it goes back to this alien reptilian agenda of plugging us into this hive consciousness. Now, they operate on a hive consciousness, but the thing about these ET's and these interdimensional negative beings is they can access the information

1:01:09field. They can access memories that we have, which we're not even consciously aware of, and make us relive, like for example, if they're going to, if a reptilian in our example is raping a woman, and this woman, which they know has had childhood sexual abuse, because they would be plugged in at a genetic information field level with the reptilian hybrid who abused her when she was a young girl. So not only would they be able to plug into the information field and force her to relive those memories in real life while they're raping her, but they they can all that blocked traumatic energy, which was never successfully released through years of therapy and what have you. It's still there to be accessed, so they just draw it out. You talked earlier, when we started about this lushing aspect, this is what Barbie called big-time, energetic, emotional harvesting. And what do we see now with these social justice words? It's the

1:02:09pod person point in shriek. That person's not wearing a mask. That's what we have now. The reason, the logic, the love, the empathy, the compassion, that's all done, that's all been kicked to the curb. The narcissistic abuse metered out on a moment-by-moment basis by the corporate media and all these authority figures. That's all reptilian narcissistic abuse. It's like we've allowed into our personal space, all these narcissistic reptilian abusers, and what's a hallmark of narcissistic abusers? They lie in our face. They do something in front of you, and then they lie about it, right? Yeah, and that's... Go ahead, sorry. Well, no, please, I just want to make that point. It's true, because well, that's sort of like I've said this before. What does a narcissist do? They rewrite history to avoid accountability. So they're lying about, they're even trying to lie about their history at this point, so we don't actually know who we are, where we came from. They've erased... They've came in and erased the true human history a long time ago. And like you said

1:03:11earlier, it's all about altering the gene pool. They go in and alter the gene pool of a lesser evolved civilization so they can control us from afar, and basically we're all this puppets, and even the politicians, and some of these celebrities and stuff, they're puppets too, and some of them don't even know that they're being controlled. And then there's a whole soul-scalping aspect to that too, which I'd like to get into, but I'll let you comment on that. Yeah, yeah, because that is a key aspect of it, because the soul and the mind and the oversoul and the information field are inextricably linked, and look what they're doing with these treatments, they're cutting, essentially, cutting people off from that source of lack of a better term, right? They're being plugged into this Borg hive collective where the potential exists after people shed the mortal coil from dying from these treatments. That's, you know, the fun and games ain't over. They could be plugged into this eternal trimal-like existence potentially forever. We just don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes as far as this AI nano-bott technology is

1:04:14concerned, but getting back to the behavior modification, which is a key aspect, because what they've done is they've imbued their genetics and their behaviors, and also reinforced through ritual of one kind or another, you know, ritual through government. Government is one of the biggest ritual pushers there are. You go to a government website, you know, you don't click enter, you click submit, right? Here in Australia, it's like when somebody sends in like evidence to a court or they send in, you know, a request for information to some government bodies, you know, it's a submission, submits, submission. Jordan Maxwell talked about the power of language, and others about the years of talk about the power of language, and symbology, manly hall, et cetera, et cetera. So all that reinforces the underlying genetic programming, and it's manipulation, not just the genetic level, but the spiritual level, because a lot of these people, they are reptilian human hybrids,

1:05:15focusing on the reptilian human hybrids here for a moment. So there's not only a genetic compatibility, but indeed there's a spiritual compatibility, there's a frequency compatibility. By imbuing so many reptilian genetics, so much of reptilian genetics, if you will, into somebody, it radically changes the neurology, the brains of these people. I think we all have receptors, we know that there are like DMT receptors, THC receptors, for whatever reason, they're already under in our brain, right? Go figure. But I think at some level, there are receptors for lack of a better term that allow these arctic entities to plug right into our brains, right into our minds. If our astral dreams stage manage dreams or any indication, they can do this, right? And whether they choose to eroticize our dreams, whether they choose to horrify our dreams, whatever the case may be, they have the means to plug into it. And what happens is,

1:06:17if a person has enough of these genetics in them, it allows these reptilians that have the ability to alter their frequency and density to enter into us at various times in our sleep. And sometimes if people aren't aware of this process, what happens is what I call an interface takes place where eventually the energy, the interdimensional reptilian energy, the successfully implants itself for lack of a better term into the host human and it's actually driving the ship. Because it's absolutely a parasite. The metaphor of Stargate SG-1 was a great example where these snake-like aliens burrow into the necks of people and take them over. Well, essentially that's what's going on. And there actually are these snake-like interdimensional entities that take up people as hosts. But anyway, so these entities take people over, turn them into hosts for themselves. And since the institutions, the whole system has been geared up for this type of control, surprise, surprise. So many of these

1:07:23hosted people become supervisors, they become managers, they become irritants, they're thrown into relives, key junctures. And I'm all for self accountability and self-responsibility, but it doesn't help when all these hosty people are around us at times leading us astray. And the guys of friendship or whatever the case may be. And a lot of it is at narcissistic abuse, where we're just confronted with nothing but lies. And then for people that have been beaten down, because we come all of us from a shame-based upbringing. We have this wounded inner child, and we have a working progress. We have to work at all these issues. So we don't act out in some way that negatively impacts us in the future, where we're people pleased that we can't say no, and it just causes all kinds of problems for us. But one example. So these entities are constantly trying to categorize a slottist in a certain category for their manipulative purposes.

1:08:27And as time goes on, we begin to see, and especially now more than ever, because of this treatment rollout, those people that haven't succumbed to them yet, we see the pod person replacement aspect, the boring aspect now more than ever. We was leading up to that with the social justice warrior programming, and we were seeing the schiz of the society where they're deliberately trying to create these artificial divisions within society. But now we're seeing the consciousness is, and I do believe I've talked about this in recent podcasts and interviews with Jerry Marzinski, and if you haven't had Jerry on the show, I could set it up. The guy is brilliant. Yeah, please do. Yeah, absolutely. Because there's absolutely no doubt in my mind, and in Jerry's mind that there is a linkage between the intrusive thoughts and the voices and the entities behind the voices and these treatments, because these voices speak to us at our own thought voice. We think it's part of thought voice, because it sounds like our thought voice, but they're not.

1:09:28Especially if there's an OCD aspect to it, and especially if these thoughts lead to behavior, bad behaviors, et cetera, et cetera, well, these thoughts are constantly going people to take the treatments to get themselves tested and what have you. And then once they go down that road, they just find themselves in a deep spell situation. And so that's what we're finding. There's been a clear division now between people like us. I don't say this in a lead as said, and everyone else who's still enmeshed in this part person matrix. It's a spell, like you said, it's black magic. And I know somebody, specifically, who's a star seed, and she woke up one day with the thoughts like she found herself in her own voice, like saying, I need to go get the vaccine. And she was like, wait, this isn't, she knew. She goes, oh, I see what you guys are doing. And she was powerful enough to, you know, just cast that away, which is where we all want to get to a place. Like when they when they trying to attack me now,

1:10:28I'm just like, nice try, you know, and you know, they're clever. And sometimes like even last night, they tried messing with me. And I was almost expecting it because we were going to record this today. But you just got to, you got to get above it. And like you said, they'll go boy, someone else. And unfortunately, like I'm still, it's still trying to figure out like how to stop it completely. But it's not that easy. Yeah, I'm still trying to work it out. Fortunately, I work with world class healers in the true shamanistic sense where what they do is they, they yank out all the energetic plugins to us and they detach all these entities that try to attach to our work fields. I mean, this is what medicine men, women, shamans have been doing, you know, from time immemorial. And they've carried on that tradition in their own way. So, you know, I have a friend that Leoni David, I'm going to have her on the show. She's pretty booked up for a while, but she, she could be a tremendous help. I went through a spate last year, four nights in a row. I've always been kind of

1:11:32an insomniac. I'm not going to blame aliens on this, but I think that some level, I think that they had a role. And the astral abductions were so blatant, even as I'm laying there trying to sleep and not even asleep yet, they were already taking me out of my body. Four nights in a row. And then to those listening and watching, you get very, you could feel yourself being pulled out the top of your head, pulled out of your chest, pulled out of the soul, your feet. At any rate, they're actually abducting me. Four nights in a row. And I'd have to fight and battle and get back into my body. So I asked Leoni David to help me. And she did. And I did have a knock on what I haven't had that problem since, right? But, you know, I never have I gone through four nights in a row where they didn't even bother to wait for me to fall asleep. You know, to whoever they were, they were like, well, you can never have enough tools on your belt as far as this stuff goes. And I want to get into how this is affecting, okay, our leader is the elites, the politicians, and the soul-scalping aspect, because that's interesting to me. I've heard that they have the

1:12:36technology to essentially literally, basically rob someone of their soul, scalp their soul, and put it in a pod for lack of a better term. And that soul is trapped in a pod. And it lives out the illusion of a life in some sort of a matrix. Okay, so now their soul, they've taken, let's just say, Joe Biden's soul and put it in a pod. And it's living out an illusion, an illusionary life in some matrix somewhere. They then project a reptilian consciousness into his body. And they take control of the host. And they can, and it's not just one. They can, you know, in and out all the time, there's different. Yes. Sometimes people are hosted by numerous entities, not just one. Yes. Right. And yeah, so they're just replaced by like a reptilian entity. Yeah. And this is happening with our world leaders, military, politicians, elites, all the above. And this is, I think, what we're seeing. So sometimes it's not necessarily a reptilian, but it's a reptilian consciousness

1:13:38in these people. And it's unfortunately that they were once human, but probably blackmailed out of their normal existence and pushed into a position. If not born into it and groomed that way, via MK Ultra of my control, all the above. And obviously the chemtrails and all that stuff plays a huge part in it. That's part of the spell is some of those gases that they release just completely mask their own ships and their own craft and everything else. It's, it's there clear as day, but we can't see it because of the gases we're being deceived with. Absolutely. The geoengineering, the aerosol agenda. I'm absolutely it's not a question of me being believer. I mean, you know, I leave it to everyone else to make their own decisions about these things, but I'm absolutely certain on numerous occasions I've seen for lack of a better term, the second son, people call it neighborhood, people call it, you know, what they will, the red dwarf,

1:14:40the brown dwarf, et cetera, et cetera. I've seen it with my own eyes and I've seen the upfords that they've made to conceal it with the chem spring and the chem clouds, right? So and there's no telling it's already having an impact on this planet, seismically, walkanically, et cetera, et cetera, which they're all just labeling climate change, of course. And there's no telling if that many solar system is inhabited by one or more advanced civilizations, right? So we're at that stage now where it just happens to cycle back at this point in time. I think it's part of the reason why they're chemtrailing everything with this perma chemtrail haze we see above us, but all of that what it does is they've terraformed this planet to such an extent that it's it would be unrecognizable to our ancient ancestors. They just look around what the hell is going on here, right? The food is unnatural and still and even like one

1:15:44anything to do with some of the stuff that we call food, that's how bad it's gotten. And so what we have is a closed system and what we have is this subject population. Barbara Bronkel used to always say most people simply don't have the neural circuitry to understand any of this and she didn't say it in an elitist fashion. She was it was out of sadness and regret really and I know what she meant by that because it's a process of and again I don't mean the sound elitist when I say this, it just I'm calling it as I see it. There's been a genetic de-evolution process at work where the people have been so shame based through through all this trauma, through all this abuse and some of it goes back many lifetimes and neurologically they've been affected in such a way that they're more reptilian brain, they're more reptilian orientation minded if you will, then they are human minded. So they're more prone to be emotional,

1:16:46they're more prone to lash out, more prone to be impulsive and we know through studies of serial killers that they lack a frontal lobe capacity which is our impulse control net. And so what they've done is not only have they eroded through various means genetics and otherwise genetic engineering and otherwise the the frontal lobe impulse control capability but they've also done something to the higher cognitive functioning capability of humans as well as the intuitive connection, the intuitive process a lot of that has to do with the alphabet language and then just all the dogman and you know the brainwashing that's gone on since then so yeah please. And if we allow them to inject something directly into us that can strongly affect the intuitive aspect of the human and that's exactly what it's doing. You know it has nothing to do with this agenda, I don't even call the pandemic I call the agenda in the agenda. Well it has nothing to do with the soul shearing the soul aspect you

1:17:50were talking about and they don't even need to capture a whole soul they could just you know a shard of it if you will right because they have the means and in one of Barbara Bartholick's key cases along with Dr. Carla Turner they work with Ted Rice and as a boy you're probably familiar with the story but any listeners are familiar with it I'll give a quick rundown they abducted Ted Rice as a boy and then they took him on board this big ship and they hooked him up they put all these wires on them and connected them to a black box they gave him something to drink which basically killed him ejected his soul consciousness matrix which was then sucked into this black box right that black box was something like it similar to it comes up again and again and a lot of these abduction even my lab experiences right so anyway Ted Rice's childhood body is officially his consciousness is now inside this box and then he's able to see this because his consciousness can see outside of the box they wheel in on some kind

1:18:55of a gurney essentially a clone of his right an identical copy of his own childhood body they hook up all these wires from the black box to the clone body give him a jolt and next thing you know he's in his new body and they take him out to what barbie called the assemblies and assembly is that's like that scene the parliament scene the Star Wars where there's all these different ETs all these different species there in some big you know confab kind of thing and then they what they did one of the ETs did was it held Ted Rice in his new clone body up triumphantly and all these ETs were cheering and stuff right and then and then they sent him back and then his exactly and his family was searching for him this was an Alabama where he grew up of memory serves his family his extended family cousins and uncles and aunts they were searching for him in the woods because he missing time he was physically gone then they saw this whirlwind kind of thing with lights emanating emanating out of it come out of the sky touch down depart

1:19:57in its wake it left young Ted Rice there that Ted Rice then had like a major major heat keep temperature problem he was warm to the touch hot to the touch so they immerse him into a bath tub and cover them with ice to bring his body temperature down long story short a lot of those childhood illnesses you're only supposed to get once by E like chicken pox and measles he got him again because that wasn't his original body so the point of relevance is yes they can for and everyone who's gone to an astral abduction knows this they can take your your consciousness for whatever length of time and you know temporary temporarily detain it and I think that at a cosmic level they've done this to countless souls not just humans or humans on other worlds but the different ET's they've they what they've done it's it's like a currency for them it's like almost like Bitcoin in a way where they can utilize these trade these and I think that

1:21:01part of the agenda that we're just talking about with this mass treatment rollout has to do at some level with it has to at some level with what we call the soul yeah well and and something to know is that the reason they have to do this is because the soul can't be killed the soul is a fragment of source so that they can't kill us they can't kill the soul but they can certainly manipulate it and trap it and do whatever they can and it's obviously you know we're talking about all this doom and gloom but there is a way out you know they programmed us to be this dualistic society right but if you can you can shed that dualistic nature and just rise above that and you know start doing the inner work with this cliche but that's honestly what it's going to take and defeating the enemy within because we're always there we're always in a battle with ourselves and then a lot of times you know we're the only thing in our own way that we're the only thing that's stopping us from progressing so anything you could do anything you could do to heal that heal your

1:22:01promise and your wounds and your weaknesses and and basically recalibrate yourself you can rise above this and you don't have to be quite susceptible as the rest of the world because you're aware now and you you have the tools and once you're aware they can't control you anymore they can try and they're going to try but you adapt we adapt that's what's beautiful about us well the shadow work is some refer to it is the toughest work to do because we have to confront ourselves all of our weaknesses all of our vulnerabilities all of our preconceived biases and a lot of it has to do with impulse control right what triggers this to behave in certain ways also what can potentially and I went through periods of this what can put us into a very compliant state I went through a period of extreme suggestibility at one point when I was living in San Diego for about two weeks I couldn't say no to anyone and imagine the chaos it caused my life right

1:23:05like I'm going into a car wash I just want the basic car wash but they come around up Selma you want to get the special it's a little bit more yeah yeah go for it right what was the special they put this you know air freshener thing shaped like a tree on my rearview mirror that was pretty much it and they wiped down my you know console yeah I paid like 10 bucks more for that but the point being is that I was in a suggestible state where I was so compliant so submissive so weak and what we see now with this psychological warfare abuse going on society wide this abusive government slash daddy figure has taken on the role of the authoritarian stern disciplinary and daddy and so many of these people they because of whatever unresolved issues that they still haven't worked out because of their own childhood issues and because of their people pleasing behavior they they gravitate towards that oh they want to protect this they

1:24:09want to save us and it power it empowers them in a strange way so they're almost they're almost deputized in a way so they turn in the mask holes they turn the vascals of vax holes they turn in the carons so called and they become a force multiplier for the system yeah because you know because they're playing consciously and subconsciously simultaneously both the victim identity card and also the hero heroine card at some level you look at these messed up people even in places that don't even require a mask anymore they still wear them thank you yeah we don't have to wear a mask here anymore it's recommended but 80 to 90 percent of people are willingly wearing them still yeah rolls my mind i'm like yes have to wear like yeah it's a hive consciousness thing it's more than just virtue signaling it it's in a very weird twisted way they see themselves as like Brad Pitt and World War Z or Will Smith and I am legend it's like you know we're in this together this for the community we gotta

1:25:12right well they're led to believe that they're they're like a stand-up citizen they're doing and doing something right and i'm gonna and then at the same time you know you see like these orchestras playing their flute through the mask with a hole cut in it i'm like where is like it's this is somebody who's no longer thinking for themselves you know well that's a hallmark of narcissistic abuse the insanity becomes the norm it's like what i always say about these narcissistic abusers just and i say to them don't push your insanity on me right and that's what they're doing with this whole rollout is like like you know i'm not part of your cult don't push your cult crap on me because that's what this is all about is is dogma uh you know uh cult abuse and cult acquiescence and i you know i don't play that game basically so a lot of this is led of this long-term genetic engineering behavior modification to this point we're at now and the point you made about how we can get ourselves out of this navigate out of this the shadow work is a big part of this i'm a work in

1:26:17progress i wouldn't you know make any claims that being anything other than a work in progress right it takes a lot of work we come from a shame-based background and that's what makes it more difficult right we have to own up to a lot of crap a lot of stuff that we've we've done it's interesting that we're on the subject because i've been reading the autobiography of slash like a tariff for guns and roses man you talk it you talk about our contic manipulated life and somehow he always landed on his feet and and i see that at some level with all of this like despite some of my you know worst behaviors some of the worst choices i've ever made somehow you know my long-suffering spirit guides i don't know what what the details are but somehow i can navigate around that and there's an internal compass that we have that that we if we listen to that still small voice we can navigate around a lot of this crap now what they're doing a hallmark of a prison society is they just remove your privileges

1:27:21and you have fewer and fewer options right but still we we can still create that bubble of serenity around us where no matter what kind of crap they roll out if they can stick because we're not part of their cult and and i i believe that you know with the power of the internet with the power of the shows that we're doing we're reaching out and in our own way what we're encouraging and empowering others because sometimes all people need is that belief in that encouragement like Barbara Bartlett did that for me i mean she believed in me before i believed myself i was a big-time shame-based individual when i first met her but you know she really bucked up my spirits really encouraged me to be under her wing and i always make the point nowadays that you know pay that forward in some way because a lot of people out there that are hurting and they're on the path to reintegration and recovery but they've got an important story to tell to and they just have to believe in themselves enough to to be willing to share yeah beautifully said yeah absolutely i agree with that um one last topic before we wrap this up i feel like we

1:28:25could do like we could do ten of these episodes there's so much to talk about i mean it's literally and i'd love to have you guys a my show too just interject briefly please come on my show and just let it rip whatever you want to talk about right no yeah absolutely um so the reptilians themselves so we have i've you know we have reptile there's so many different species of them they come from different places um even like i've heard free masonry the masonic symbol like masonic symbolism actually stems or originates on a reptilian home planet and it was brought here it's not something that humans conjured up you know um but i've heard there's there's so many different species of them i've heard and then i've heard there's like the term reptilian which is like a reptilian that has evolved it was born and evolved on earth they didn't come here i just think i just found that interesting but what are your thoughts on a benevolent reptilian race because through my research i've i've like i've heard they're born into this society the reptilians are even born

1:29:27into this as children they don't have a choice and even some of them on some level on their planet or even here on earth are going through their own awakening and they escape their system and then they specifically you know sometimes people channel them and they ask to not be judged by their race but their individuality um how are you familiar with any concepts of benevolent reptilians because some people don't think they exist i absolutely believe they exist sometimes the show up is lack of a better term we call them messengers where they'll pop up and you know say sometimes that like a cryptic message or whatever but that's it they just say something to you that which may or may not make sense later but at a soul level there is some degree of understanding so you know messengers show up once in a while and i do know of cases where some reptilians have tried to help abduct these female abductees in particular that i know and they were they were punished for it the the rest of the mob really came down on them there was one reptilian that

1:30:32lack of a better term the gal referred to him as joe and joe was helping her out from you know the depredations of these other reptilians that it was in the same society right and then when they realized that this joe character was helping her out they they punished him and she never heard from him again and i know of other cases even on our own planet where a dominant reptilian species we see this played out earth's history with humans all the time we're a dominant empire if you will will subjugate weaker nation states or weaker tribes and that happens as well underground where a dominant reptilian species will essentially enslave and subjugate a weaker reptilian species and turn them into slaves or whatever the case may be and and i do know that there are reptilians for lack of a better term that are good that are against all this i was doing a lot of psychic work with the germans we were having these skype sessions several years back and

1:31:36this reptilian was like kind of watching us over a couple of sessions and finally Martina she said this through an interpreter that my German is limited but we had a gal that spoke perfect anguish and she said well Martina says as a reptilian here watching us and it's been here for the last couple of weeks she hasn't said anything about it because it's not harming us or doing anything and we've had these entities show up that we manage beings hanging around just watching us right so anyway Martina goes through the interpreter do you want me to ask it what it wants and yeah we go sure go ahead and she asked it what do you want it turned out it had one of these interdimensional snake entities attached to it it attached to it's like solar plexus area where a lot of these entities attached themselves and so it asked us can you remove this from me all right i go sure let's do it so you know we put all our psychic abilities together and we made a

1:32:38conscious effort to detach this snake entity from this reptilian and we did and then it just went away right now a week later because we were we were meeting weekly the week later we're having another Skype session with the Germans next thing you know several reptilian show up and they all have the snake entity inside of them they wanted us to detach the snake entities from them well this is interesting and we did we pulled the snake entities out of them see what we've come to find out because eventually literal interdimensional dragons are showing up that had these snake entities embedded in them and when we took the snake entities out the dragons were doing cartwheels spinning doing all this yoga you know acrobatics stuff and you know some of the Germans who had second sight i think sometimes it could be a blessing or a curse to have the theoric vision frankly i don't want to look around and see all these interdimensional entities around me so i'm glad i don't have that ability at the moment right but some of the Germans that i was working with

1:33:40did have do have that ability so they were seeing and they were if they were vision all these dragons spinning around do we call those they were so happy to have these things taken out of them and the Germans were breaking down they were crying they were they were weeping tears of joy and so the backstory came out right a lot of the dragons that were in physical form were hunted unmercifully by by human bands but the ones that had an interdimensional capability were able to escape extinction unfortunately what happened was the snake entities had embedded themselves into with the physical and also into some of the interdimensional capable dragons and caused them to do all this like negative kangaroo stuff right going around attacking villages and attacking people so they were basically abducted and used as you know in drone attacks essentially but they were being piloted all along by the snake entities so if if their backstory of their historical message to us had any validity that's what happened because a lot of these

1:34:41dragons see themselves as earth-based entities they're here they coexist on the earthly plane with nature with us this is why the Chinese venerate them but in Europe they have a totally different no understanding of them because of this snake entity infiltration thing right so two things well for one I've had via one of my sessions healer literally visualized I guess second side she was able to energetically see some type of a serpent wrapped around the base of my spine and she was able to remove it and quite literally it was life-changing for me I don't know how long it had been there but also synchronistically I just read yesterday this is mainstream news they discovered dragon fossil dragon fossilized dragon in the UK which they call it an underwater dragon it's like 36 38 feet long has a six foot diameter skull but from above it it looks like a dragon and it's really interesting to me that they used it word dragon you know they could just call it the

1:35:42sea sir whatever they wanted but it's it's really synchronicity I think that you're talking about that now yes and I was in comms for a while with two guys that were shakers and movers these are young guys shakers and movers in the rave scene these guys were the organizers of the rave scene and they both told me independently just how ET saturated and gray saturated in snake entity and reptilian saturated the whole rave scene was oh my god I can imagine yeah because one of the guys told me he used to this is back when I was in San Diego what was the Indian reservation they did the raves at the patanga Indian reservation in north county San Diego the memory serves and the way they would do it they would put out like a you know telephone message in code or something and it told everyone where the rave is going to be and then in hours time that message was not going to be on that phone number anymore right so they had hours worth of time to find out the location and get to the site right and so this guy told me there were times when they saw

1:36:48literal grays at these events that there were times when he came across like four grays kind of laying in the square shaped pattern on the ground right and he said that he felt that the grays and perhaps other ET's had a role in not only the way that emo music was but also the frequency in which it was played but also the lyrics for whatever songs you know that had required lyrics they had a hand in that and we can see this played out you know and again it goes back to the intrusive thoughts what is a muse it's like was that really our idea to come up with a weapon a mass destruction in some laps somewhere you know why didn't we make like a longer lasting light bulb instead right why does it always have to veer off into this earth destroying civilization destroying direction right where are these ideas come from and the other guy that I spoke to when he was under the influence of ecstasy and and other drugs he would go under these raves and he

1:37:50would see with his aetheric third eye vision because it would be amped up from the drugs right he would see the snake entities hovering over a bunch of ravers and he said that some of these waivers you know like when they're holding a like a flashlight kind of light thing in their hands and then they they wave it around and dance in certain patterns he says they do it so unnaturally fast that there's nothing normal about it right and he can see like grays jumping in and out of this guy and other occasions he can see hovering right above a bunch of ravers on a dance floor these snake entities and these snake entities are just sucking up the loose from these these waivers and it's growing and gradually expanding and expanding and he said he's seen it as aetheric third eye vision these things can get so big like you know the New York skyline these things can be as big as that when they get fully expanded sucking up all the loose and you can imagine because what they do is they don't want this in that frequency bandwidth of like upliftment and plenitude and serenity no that does nothing for that works for us not so much for them

1:38:55so they strive at all hazards to shunt us in this lower frequency bandwidth of rage a fear of victimization of you know all this other stuff right and it's constantly reinforced by the media et cetera et cetera so we're a lot of us are already in this lower frequency bandwidth anyway which is their happy hunting ground you add on to that pharmaceutical drugs and you know elicit drugs et cetera et cetera it just opens up people big time and so you know you you get a focal point like a like a rave and you can imagine the amount of loose being generated and a rave well and how these entities are just sucking all that up and okay let's let's change the word rave to mass protest because that's a little more practical right now and I just made a post about this it was unpopular to some people because you know a lot of people were getting I see people getting angry because everybody's just sitting on their asses like you need to get to the streets we need a protest but I mean a posting guys this is a spiritual war and we can't go blindly protest without putting up protection because these protests are honeypots for these dark entities

1:39:58to come and do exactly what you just described they did during that rave they do this they're in a protest also and I think this is what happened with January 6th because I know people who came back from that one person willingly admits that he was pretty sure he was possessed on some level after that event and this isn't just he's one out of thousands of people and so we can't just blindly go out into these large groups of people because sometimes they are a trap sometimes it's a honey pod they want us to go out there I mean yeah there's peaceful ways to do it but if you are going to protest like go meditate on it put up some protection call and whatever help you need if you really feel you need to be out there in the street doing something but yeah it's something to think about that people don't think about because you gotta think about who is inviting you to protest who is what's what's working through that person and and they're obviously the reason you want to go protest is because you're being emotionally triggered on some level yeah you're being

1:40:58emotionally triggered on some level you feel like this is the only way I need to get out there there's anger involved it's usually not coming from a place of centered centered this whatever if that's even a word um yeah it's a desire to at some level strike back and a desire at some level to hit back at our at our oppressors and I see we see this in different ways too where people figuratively and sometimes literally you know charge headfirst into these institutions of control like the federal reserve like like uh you know these various federal agencies what have you the World Health Organization but what they're doing is they're they're taking on the outward front the the physical plane front of this control system it's the underlying reptilian alien control system propping it up which we have to detach ourselves from eventually get through a frequency bandwidth beyond their reach ideally right they can go wallow and steal and whatever kind of

1:41:59you know reality they want but they you know or pick on someone else but they'll will be beyond their reach ideally right and there is something to be said about mob mass psychosis because I've seen this at different levels at sporting events at rock concerts uh do you have this group thing where everyone resonates uh at the same frequency and everyone gets locked into this high consciousness the one of the rave guys told me about that he said um just at sunrise the music is blurring out this emo music that locks in on a certain frequency anyway right and then he said simultaneously he said it was a mind blower as the sun was rising it was completely spontaneous everyone raised up their arms in unison and went like oh and he said it blew his mind but that's part of that mob psychology uh you know hive consciousness that they were plugged into which they don't realize and like for example uh you know well Trump could easily have

1:42:59said okay instead of coming to the capital why don't you all just go to your you know the city center the plaza you know in front of your uh you know city council where you live and have a peaceful protest we'll just come out and force all across the country right I think that would have been more effective why does he encourage everyone and to go all the way to the state capital where it's just this big honey trap like like he described and uh and and that's a key point because well even the bible talks about this fisiens where we are fighting uh powers and principalities we are fighting this is a spiritual warfare battle manifesting uh in the physical plane but it's multi-dimensional in nature right so it's okay there's aspects of us that we're not even conscious the aware of they're grappling with this problem that dealing with this problem in more than one timeline right so in one more than one reality even so when we realize that we are multi essentially multi-dimensional beings and and we look at it from that standpoint then it

1:44:01becomes more important to I wouldn't say become insular but to go inward to because through within we can connect multi-dimensionally outward to the cosmos and everything else and that's what they want to forget they want us to focus on the fact that we're or the you know the fake news if you will that were mere blood bags that were uh you know we have no higher purpose in life that were just fearful uh you know whip curves or which we were anything but but you know what we're seeing now play out in front of us we've been to use a term predictive programming it's been in our face all this time so not even on a subconscious level at a conscious level all these people that are masked up you know they they've already seen this movie over and over and over again and now and I hate to say it and it may sound elitist but for many of them it's giving it's given meaning to otherwise you know meaningless lives they had nothing really um to sink their teeth and do to

1:45:04grasp onto in the past no real cause now they're like we're in it for the survival of the human race but it's the bass acquires opposite of that right and so a lot of us have you know long since decided look these people you know we just wish them well this is you know keep their caring ways to themselves but there's nothing more you can do for them if they've been double treated if they've been boosted and if they're you know total mass calls uh you know the clock is ticking on them and unfortunately when you talked about earlier how your friend was waking up with these thoughts of getting the stabs right there's a lot of people that were 100% against this but they were held over a barrel they got families they got mortgages they've decided okay I'm gonna fall in the sword and I'll take one for the team right and then they they took them much against their will and see that's you know these are courageous people and my heart goes out to them right it's not easy and it's gonna look different for everybody I'm fortunate enough to be in a position for I don't think that would happen to me but people have families and careers and stuff that

1:46:08they're protecting and when it comes down to your child you're gonna do anything for your child and they know that they know we all have a breaking point we all have our weaknesses uh they know because they programmed them into us so uh and there's certain groups that watch us all the time and they know exactly what it's gonna take for for us to bend for us to break so this just things to be cautious of but um we're gonna go ahead and start wrapping this up man thank you so much for coming on can you please let people know where they can find you yeah so you can go to my website the CosmicSwitchboard.com I do uh you know consults so if anyone's interested in having a consult about their experiences uh you know alien abductions, interdimensional uh my labs cult abuse whatever the case may be you know feel free to go go to my website and uh there's a few four or five years worth now of archives on there so and you can also find me on Facebook on on Twitter on Twitter on CosmicSwitch29 and on Facebook you can look me up James Bartley awesome

1:47:10thank you so much and you've been pretty quiet over there today you got any words to add no I mean thank you so much for coming on fascinating information I yeah it was it was mind-blowing yeah thank you and thank you to to Jenny Constantine for putting us together she's a true spiritual warrior right please send it to her my regards yeah absolutely yeah she is definitely a warrior that's for sure um we've we've had a few heated conversations with her on the podcast before she's she's fun yep but yeah thank you so much man this has been incredible um definitely let's hook up in the future and do this again because there's no shortage of shortage of things to talk about there's so many directions we could have gone but you know it's to put it all in the nutshell the way you did is impressive and thank you for that and I know this is going to be beneficial and guys if this doesn't make it through to YouTube storm I mean I don't if it doesn't make it on YouTube you can find us on rumble obviously to watch a video podcast and then

1:48:15Apple podcast Google podcasts I sound cloud all the all the audio platforms I'm sure I'm forgetting some but anyway there's other places to find us if if this doesn't obviously okay honestly yeah and then obviously we're on telegram facebook instagram uh we're just hanging on by a thread everywhere right now the shadow brain is real and so we're just doing what we can so any support you guys can give us it all helps it all helps and honestly what's more supportive than donations is just sharing this stuff just get this information out there and um because we're out of the algorithms if we try and share something it doesn't go anywhere it's like sometimes crickets it's almost laughable at this point so um if you guys want to help just please share this stuff if you find it at all compelling or if you think it's gonna help somebody and uh with that I guess we'll go ahead and wrap it up thanks again James are coming on this was fantastic uh enjoy the rest of

1:49:17your day and um guys we will see you next time we have two more episodes coming to you this week it's a busy week um I guess universe hail the plans for us this time so uh stay tuned for those and we will see you next time have a great evening