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4:12Quints.com slash kkc. Welcome back for another episode of reality life with kkc and today is the day. The wedding episode of love is blind. Chris is back with me to discuss all that went down. Now this is part four of our series, which may I say, make sure that you go back and listen to all of the other episodes, one, two, three, and of course, this one. We will be back next week to talk about the reunion as well. Season 10 of love is blind took us to Ohio, a place famous for cornfields, college football, and now people that are willing to legally marry someone that they met through a drywall partition. And honestly, this season had everything. It had a man who still believes he's in the soccer playoffs across fit enthusiast who unbelievably dumped a gorgeous infectious disease doctor, a CPAP machine making a surprise cameo during intimacy. A bachelor pad decorated like a medieval sports bar and a woman who owns a casino couch.

5:16Now, let's start with the most suspiciously functional couple of the season, Christine and Vic. Now, Vic is a professor, which begs the question of whether he signed up for the show because he overheard his students talking about it in class and also that a criminologist would be open to fallen in love with a stranger. Next up, we have Amber and Jordan, which is one of those love is blind storylines that starts with a sentence the producers absolutely love. Jordan says he doesn't want to date anyone with a kid, which historically on the show means he is about to immediately fall in love with someone who has a child. And sure enough, Amber is a single mom to a seven-year-old Emma. And Jordan decides he's willing to reconsider, which is the love is blind version of someone saying, listen, I don't normally eat dairy and then immediately orders that a chini alfredo. So they fall in love and he accepts that she's eccentric. She accepts the sword that he keeps in his basement, not even mounted, but just beside the couch. And we're left to wonder, can these two make it work?

6:18Now, Brittany, she's 33 and she's ready for marriage and when I say that, I mean she already bought a wedding dress before the experiment even started. Now, Devonte proposes and her love language is physical touch and his love language appears to be vag reassurance and emotional buffering. And then they get into finances because nothing spices up romance like a spreadsheet. And he's nervous about her spending and casually brings up a prenup. And then perhaps the most love is blind sentence ever spoken. He tells Brittany he might need to ghost her for a full day to think about whether he wants to marry her. Then we have Emma and Mike, which is a storyline that quickly turns from a romantic experiment into a full-blown existential debate about reproduction. Now Emma isn't adopting and she worries if her future children make her a gene that would require multiple surgeries like she did as a young girl. Now Mike is from an Italian family who probably watched the Godfather on Easter. So Mike frets, she'll never be able to make a decision and he doesn't want to be the

7:20only friend without kids at the annual 5K at Thanksgiving. Then we have Ashley. She entered the pod saying that she wanted the Ken to her Barbie and she actually found him. He's tall, dark, handsome, former professional athlete. Now this man even comes with a build accessory, a soccer ball which he probably puts in a backpack and carries everywhere he goes. Now Alex quickly decides that Ashley is his forever. You might say that she's even a keeper, which is the kind of soccer pun that tells you immediately that this man has been waiting his whole life to use sports metaphors in a romantic context. But before the reveal, he openly admits that he usually falls for women based on looks first, which is a bold philosophy to announce on love is blind, the one dating show specifically designed to prevent that. And that is the subject of today's episode. Again, Chris is back and I have been overwhelmed with complete joy getting all of the DMs

8:23about all of you listening to this episode, taking pictures in the car or on the run wherever you may be. Keep them coming. We are loving them. We are also still desperate to talk to Mike's mom, Patty. So if you live in the greater Columbus Cincinnati area and you may walk past her, please let her know that we are dying to talk to her. I hope that you enjoy this episode as much as we enjoyed it doing it. In fact, I woke up at the crack of dawn to make sure that this gets to you on time. So enjoy it, share it, and here is my interview with Chris. Chris, top of the morning to you. Top of the morning to you. How is it? It's great what waking up, going to work, third job in a row, having no breaks, making television for all of you, breaking my back to make television for all of you people that listen to this show, okay? And again, a tip of the visor to you. Thank you for that. Yeah.

9:24Am I in a robe? Yes. Do I have to get dressed and walk out the door at the minute? This is over. Yes. Am I still here to talk about these weddings? I sure am. You sure am. Please that you're with me today. The good people have been writing me and saying, where are chomping of the bit? We cannot wait until you discuss the weddings. And truly, I have to say, this has been a season that has kept me extremely entertained. Yeah. I believe at any point that there would be long and lasting love, probably not. No. But I was entertained in the process. Let's start off with Emma and Mike. First question for you, the efficiency that they've chosen for these celebrations. What do you think that required to be the efficient? And a lot of them just sort of smiled in the background. Could you have done that as well? Yeah. You could be inefficient. Oh, I would. I know you would love to be, but you could do this. I think they just technically need to have a marriage. Be like able to be ordained, isn't it ordained? Probably.

10:24To be a T.O.D. But I like how marriage is be real. Do you think they give them a heads up? By the way, these couples, here's their backstory. I don't know if they're warned. I wonder. I probably, but I bet you they also have a thing, they're a little earwig in their ear, and they just get the lines fed to them of what to say. OK. You know what I mean? When they're like, you know, the lines we hear every year, like, you enter it into a marriage, like unseen, or something like that. And it was like, now it is find out, time to find out if love is truly blind. When you feel crazy saying that, no, if I'd be exhilarating, I don't think I could do it because I think in the middle of it go, wait, wait, wait, wait, did you decide whether they're not you're going to have kids? Like, why are you keeping this guy hanging? What's going on? Yeah, that's what see this is why you wouldn't be able to do it, actually, because you'd be like, hold on, hold on, hold on. And they'd be like, no, Kate, no, we've made this joke already. I feel like they'd be like, I know we're still just taking over it. The event space. Were you happy with the, I mean, we never, I'm never happy.

11:26I'm never happy. Well, I felt like Amber and Jordan's what I'm going to get to. I was happy with what they provided us. It was intimate. There were a lot of flowers. But I feel like Emma and Mike, they knew something was not going to happen between them. And they just sort of like, they went to the Costco of that town and they bought a couple of flowers. But yeah, probably, right, got to keep costs down, you know, all right, Mike, we begin the episode where he eventually just says, listen, I appreciate that you just did that vow. And that even though you talked in circles for 20 minutes, you finally said that you're in love with me and want to be married. However, it's an issue for me that you don't want to have kids. And so let's part ways. I didn't think that at first, I thought, okay, maybe he wants to keep the door open to dating. And then when I saw him run up to stairs after she was crying, I thought, no, this is his swan song. He wants out. I think that this is the most adult thing we've ever seen on the show.

12:30Yes. Because this is something that he said in the put like, he's a good person. He said here, sort of here, like in the pods, he was like, I want to have kids. She was like, I don't know if I do. And he was like, okay, well, that's going to be a problem for me. Like, I want to, like, that's an issue that I am going to stand firm on because it's something I really want. And I'm letting you know now, before we're even engaged, how firm I am on it. Yeah. We don't see that often in the show. Oh, no, no, no, no. There's a lack of thoughtful consideration about yourself, about the other person, their families. Sometimes we have children, no, all for the sake of TV, no, I do believe that he made the best decision for himself. I'm probably for Patty, wouldn't you say? Yeah, 100% Patty's like, yeah, I also liked the parents coming together and being like, they love each other, but you know what's an issue and she's got to get there. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but I like, I felt good about it. I didn't feel there's other ones that will get to that I'd feel terrible about. Whereas like, this one, I was like, no, this was the right thing. Like, he stated his, what he wanted very clearly and was very firm about it.

13:36And wasn't like, yeah, it's fine, actually, it's like, no, it's not fine. Like, this is something I really want. And then she eventually was like, I don't know, and she wasn't like sure. And then like, was like, that'll be fine. And then like, go back on it. Do you know what I mean? Like, they both did the adult thing. And so it resulted in not a wedding, but it, I felt good that it was not a wedding. I felt good that they didn't, you know what I mean? I was like, this was the right thing. Like, they didn't, they shouldn't be together if they, if they can't match up on these very real things that are things that you're gonna, like, that's a real life situation right there. Yeah. It'll be like, he'll come around or like, she'll come around and then they just move forward. And then they're like, three years into marriage and then they're like, wait, what? And it's like, no, we already talked, like, please a number of people that I know that like, we're like, got married right away. And then it was like, wait, do you, do you know what each other wants in life at all? And they, and it turns out they didn't. And then that causes problems. Do you think she walks past him on the street and he's got a little stroller and she,

14:37there's a little pang like, man, or do you think she's like, thank God I dodged that one? No, I think she's like happy for him. I don't even think it's about, I think she's happy for him. And I think now that she's watched this, she's like, oh, I need to go to therapy for the rest of my life is what I think. And I think that she does need that. Amber and Jordan, she has never looked better. The makeup was perfection. And there was something about her that seemed different. Like she grew up, if you will. I don't like that they don't have a plan about what they're gonna, where they're gonna move. No, I don't. And I also don't like when he's, like, when he was sitting with it, I think his brother or friend, someone, another big lug of a man. And he was like, oh, like, what am I gonna, like he's like, well, she, like they live here. And the husband, like, doesn't want to commute an hour to bring the daughter to school. And I'm like, yeah. And then he's like, but I want to live in this area because I want to, like, go to concerts and I want to do all this stuff and I want to blah, blah. And I want it to be like, buddy, like, yeah, not like that, that's over, but like that, like, you're now a stepfather, like that. This is you now, this child's well-being is now your primary concern.

15:40You can't, like, like, sorry, but it is, you know what I mean? And not that you have to be the father and blah, blah, but like, if she needs to be live somewhere because it's close to her daughter, like you, that you need to be there as well. Sorry. Yeah. Like she's gonna uproot from her school and her teachers and her community, just because you, you want to go see, and then a blowfish. Want to get not who they belong. And then also, but also too, it's like the husband, like the, not the husband, the father of the, of the daughter is also a part, like, that's a factor. Sorry. Like if we're living in the adult world, like, that's, that, like, you, oh, you just want to go to concerts. Well, you might have to drive an hour to a concert. Sorry. No one I mean, like, we're talking about somebody who has decaying food on the counters and the sword, which we've much discussed. The sword. Yeah. The projector in the, in the basement. He strikes me as somebody that, like, when I looked at his brother, I thought the brother was the football star, but Jordan was the one that, like, slammed beer cans on his head.

16:42Like, he doesn't have enough brain cells to contemplate long-term decisions. And when his family came together, they were all collectively confused. How do we get here? We know our brother. He's an idiot. Like, how did this really successful, together woman with this beautiful little girl? Consider this doofus for a long and lasting future. Oh, also, the mom, I couldn't understand she was chewing gum the whole time, and then they panned to the floor, I think, on purpose. She took her shoes off. So it's just, like, free feet waving in the wind on screen. She's like, my dogs are blocking, she's like, do you know what I mean? The fact that he went through with the wedding. Now, his sister is the sister we would all want. And she kept saying, I'm here for you. What she's trying to tell him is, you are doing something that is forever going to alter this family and you better think about it, and you didn't think about it.

17:42But again, he lives in a friend house. So what are we thinking? Are they going to last long, even though they went through with the vows? I'm nervous that they're going to get to the reunion, and they're going to be like, it's just, and he's going to say, like, I wanted to be close to this, and I wanted to be close to that, and she needed to be close to her daughter. And it's like, yeah, you fucking dumb idiot. Like, you wanting to be able to go out and do nightlife and her needing to be a mother to a child or not, those are not on the same level of, like, need and importance. Sorry. Yeah. I think that's what's going to happen. Because even that conversation, last conversation, I was like, oh, I was like, this needed to have been ironed out. You know what I mean? Like, this is not a, this is not a maybe situation that you can do. And I didn't like that the vet, you know, it gets to the point of the wedding where it's like a roller coaster ride where people like leaning in with, with like one ear to the, you know, kind of up in the air, like, well, and it's like, and then I'll say something, and then they sit back in their chair, and then they go back up again, and then he says, I do.

18:42And they all look like flabbergasted. Yeah. Not an idea wedding situation. No. It's like, wait, did he say it? He said it. He does. I mean, if you went to a normal wedding in normal life and that happened, you'd be like, he's tear a divorce in three weeks. But also it's not a normal wedding. I know. I know. That's just remember. It's not a normal wedding. Yeah. Then I thought also Emma's going to have great stories in the future. I mean, I looked at her crying after he said that he wanted to move forward with the wedding with her mother. And then I thought, that's some of you put in your Instagram bio. You know, Emma, junior, capital to blah, blah, blah. My mom got engaged on Love is Blind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also, again, the Midwest families, very supportive, all of them have collectively come together in this improbable situation with potential spouses who seemingly have nothing in common

19:45with their loved one. Yeah. And they still are supportive. And I tip my visor off to that one too. Yeah. Amber again, looks great. Her dress. Fantastic. And it reminded me of the years that I watched a little show on TLC called A Wedding Story. I played that as the reason I got married the first time for three seconds. You went with the bride on the journey to find the wedding dress. And there were, I believe there are two kinds of brides in the world. There are brides who wear like a j-crew style basic classic dress and the bride who wears a penina torne. When penina torne is this designer who basically makes like a lace bodice. So you look like a sexy bride, if you will. I mean, sometimes people would take it too far because they would take even more of the corset out, the lining. So it's basically like aerial acidity. See through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amber is in the penina torne category, I believe.

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26:00living room that's like a little teeny nothing. I feel like it's like big lots meets Vegas. And like the couch was like up to the ceiling. Like do you know what I mean? It was like so big. It was like so. Yeah. And I thought maybe he's breaking this off because he doesn't want to end up living there. And I can understand that with the little hole between the living room and the kitchen. Yeah, I hate that. Yeah. She's a lunatic. Can I say that? I'm on his side now. She, when he was like, she already bought a wedding dress before we even, okay, what do you think about that as well? Walking the pods. I was like, yeah, that's bad. I see. Different. I went to Trinity and a lot of the girls from Catholic University had already signed, registered for a wedding date at the Basilica. I mean, that's like you grow up and you want to get, you know, you want to have a really good dress. Maybe she went to a store and I was like, that to me, that's like, oh, I already sent

27:02up for a wedding date at the Basilica at this thing that in I have no idea who my husband is even going to be or anything. It actually has nothing to do with him. It has everything to do with me. And what I already think about my dream wedding that has nothing to do with the other person that's involved in it, which is the problem that's the, and therein lies the problem because he's like, I'm just here. Like when he said, like, would you have gotten married? It's just someone else if it wasn't me, like a, do I even matter to this or do you just really want to be married? I don't think it's that much of a deal, big deal. I think he, that was his, his way to get out. I don't think he's a man enough with the beginning to go. I'm not attracted to you and I don't want to marry you. So he waited until the very end and then used that as one of the outs. You're not wrong. However, I do, it's sad because women, especially people in like rural America where there's like not as much going on in there, like she has a good job. She likes her job. She likes her apartment and now it's like, I have everything but I'm just not a bride and that's like such a scarlet letter on her. And again, this isn't her fault, it's society's fault.

28:03But that's such a scarlet that she was, that she's like, I'm willing to do this with anyone that will come my way. Even this guy that I like keep saying like, you don't say I'm pretty enough in blah blah and this is not like, and why am I not the perfect bride for you in blah blah? You know what I mean? I just find her, I find her very annoying and it's to the point and he's no prize or anything special. But like she, I just could feel it off of her especially in that last scene is like she desperately just like wanted to get married. And it's like that never take it from me from seeing so many friends that just like desperately wanted to have a wedding, it never, it never works out. Yeah, and I mean, he clearly didn't like her and she's like, well, I've, you know, I found my guy and I'm like, your guy just, you know, like, hello, trans am and text the girlfriend that he was with before he was on the show. And it's like get a clue, you know what I mean, she was so, I don't know, he was, again, he was nothing special at all and like, it wasn't like, but I think he was super overwhelmed with all the stuff.

29:04She was then being like, we're so in love and he's like, ah, do you think her parents are devastated? Do you think they're together still? Do you think they're not together right at the, at the, no, I think he was with a different woman by, you know, two days by then. I think he knew right away. Then I thought maybe when the curtains were lifted and he realized he wasn't attracted to her, would it have been better for him to tell her right then or better to, I think no, but I think he should. I think she was so pretty. I think he was attracted to her, but then I think as he got to know her better out in the outside world, he was like, oh, you, I truly, I'm not going to, I do think that he that was what repelled him even if it like, I think that he was like, oh, I didn't matter what I was. You just wanted to like do this to get you to do a wedding. I really do want to do that. You can smell it on her when you see her and now that I'm going, and then once that was happening when I go back and think about all the other scenes, I'm like, oh, yes, she just like desperately wanted to get it, get married on TV. I would like for him at the reunion to bring some, some proof, like an inner bedroom.

30:09She already has like the wedding frames, you know, you know, she's got the bridesmaid stresses all ordered. She's got the wedding shoes in the closet, like really fully leaning into all the ways that she had already planned the wedding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like what your family doing August 2nd, well, I've already booked the reception venue and yeah, the whole thing. Okay. That's scary. That's stage five cleaner behavior. Do you know what I mean? That's old, you know, old deed cut reference, but like that's stage five cleaner. Yeah. You know, um, any who? I would have liked to have seen the wedding though, and now what were they going to say to each other? Well, if she had planned it truly for like the last couple of years, like the whole, like friction with the wedding planer would have been funny. Well, you know, I ordered these six years ago, so I brought them like to use these. And they've like doused on them yet. Oh, Ashley and Alex, boy, am I going to miss these two?

31:10By the way, that's another Instagram bio. I would love to have, you know, accountant, you know, trusted trust in Dubai. No. What did they say? Trust in Dubai in a, and like a safe house in New Zealand, New Zealand, I would love to have a, my bio was a bridesmaid on a lover's brine wedding. That would be pretty good too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're scrolling through Instagram and you come across the one who has that. I'm like, I'd like to party with that girl. Yeah. Um, first thing that I noticed was that Jackie was free from Paul, Ashley's mother. I thought she looked great. I was hopeful that she took this as an opportunity to like get in and get away car and fly to New Zealand to the safe house that Alex had actually. Can we traffic her out of the wedding and like get away from that fucking monster of a husband? And I like that they pretended that they're in a loving marriage where she's like claps in his hand. And because you know, she's like, oh my god, this is an unmidigated hell living with this

32:13man. Yeah. Yes. Again, he said, I think you cut this out a couple episodes ago and I went on my retirement about him. He's the ugliest person I've ever seen. You said he looked like a reptile. And then, and like, he's so ugly and again, it's giving the jinx. I'm sorry to say it's filled them all, of course, like I he comes on the screen and I screen bloody murder. Like it's. Well, and when he walked in the room with his son, they look like two insurance agents that are just about to blow up your world. I'm boring. So it snooze fast and he thinks he's like bringing it. I don't know. He's the worst. Okay. So she basically eviscerates them up there. Do you think it was in her best interest to wait until the ceremony? Did she get some sort of financial package like just wait until the end? Like she want to do like Kate I bricks, you know, weeks before that. I'm sorry to do this, but I, I really hated that she did this. I did too. Actually, in the sense that because here's the thing is that like she pretended the whole

33:20time. I agree with you. It's like we're here and we're blah, blah, blah. And yes, there were concerns. And yes, she's like brought up things like we don't have enough sex or like blah, blah. And then in like when she was like catching him in the lies of like you said you were going to move to this place, but you said till this person you were going to move to this place, like whatever that like all that stuff like yes, but then but like. Once it was over and she walked away from it. And then she was with her friends and I think didn't think she was on camera because it was like a far away shot of them. And she said he's a loser, which I'm like, did she listen to me? I'm like straight out of my book. And she said he's a loser. And she was like he never none of the stuff that he ever said was true. I don't like that you lied to all of us the whole time. Because I think she thought that this was going to be like her big moment of like slam in him to his face at the halter and it's going to be like the shot most shocking thing we've ever seen in love is buying it.

34:20And it like it felt kind of flat. I'm not going to lie. I don't know. I did for me, but then again, I'm like I'm crazy. So maybe people know what I'm saying, like like am I just, do I just can't stand her in her dad? So now I like think everything she does is stupid. But like I felt that it felt very flat. And it was very like it was she thought she was serving and it was like no, like sorry. Like you made yourself look like a goddamn idiot for this whole entire show. And if you really felt this way, the fact that you went along with it for so long is really pathetic and sad. I agree with you. I felt like she made this plan with her dad. Like they devised this in a corner at some coffee shop and it did fill a little flat. And because I think I despised the dad so much and I felt like he was so involved in this and the smirk that he had in the beginning of the show. I feel like the production crew must have been like kind of hate this guy. Yeah, like this fucking dad, Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah.

35:21What have been me obviously? I know he thinks he's producing that's the problem that dad thought he was producing the show. A hundred percent. And he would have been like, I can do it. I can do your job. I'm like, okay, go ahead. Oh yeah, your daughter looks like a fucking idiot, like a numb, a numb skull like in the whole time. Yeah, go. Sure. He's like, I got the biggest settlement in Ohio history. I can produce this to show that my daughter decided to be out. 200,000 dollars. Yeah, bye. Yeah, look, I also think and that soon as she started doing it, I was like, God fucking damn it. Now he can say she was mean she never wanted to be with me like she handed him every excuse possible to be able to say and when she was like, you don't have integrity, like when she hit below the ball with that stuff, I was like, now he will be able to get off Scott free from all of this because he can be like you, she was planning a whole time to like embarrass me at the, at the altar, and she thought that was a play and it would it actually he's going to come out squeaky clean from all of it in this like in the court of public opinion because she did that.

36:22Yeah, I think she did think that this was going to be like a meme of her that will be the meme of the meme of the world and it will be shared across the globe. No, it wasn't. It wasn't a good moment. And she actually played right into his hand, which is pathetic. You know what I mean? Because now he can be like, yeah, like I we I tried to make it work. Like he didn't, she should have made him go first. Yes. She should have been like, why don't you? Because she said, I already know that you're going to say now. So I'm going to say this. And it's like, no, no, you actually don't know that. Do you know what I mean? Like, and he, and then he got to be like, yeah, the feeling is mutual. He didn't even have to say no, he didn't even have to, he didn't even have to deny her. He got to, he got to, and he can go back and now say, oh, I said that because she fucking said the mean is shit about me. So like the feeling was mutual because she offended me at our wedding day during our vows. And again, do I know that he's a fucking loser? Like she said, yes, 100% do I agree with every single thing that she said? Yes. But like, she played it so badly, so poorly. Yeah, it felt like a middle school girl who kind of like walks up the lunch room and

37:24says, you know, we're over with like her pack of friends behind her. And he's like, okay. Okay. And he's like, I'm already dating this other girl. Yeah. Yeah. She really thought she was doing something and it she simply was not. And she was like, he's going to love the way I look. I was like, I will say that whenever she's like, you don't even, you're not even attracted to me and I feel ugly. And so it's so sad that she's like, I feel like I'm so like not your, I'm like, I feel so ugly and like, I feel so not attractive. Like when I'm with you, it's like you are gorgeous. Yeah. It's like really sad. I did like her dress. I'd have to say. She looked incredible. She's beautiful. She is beautiful. But he, she, yeah, she really fucked that up, didn't she? However, he did treat this like he was preparing for the 2014 NCAA soccer semi-finals. I mean, the whole monologue comparing it to a game was one of the greatest moments of this show's entire story. I know. But I think it's sad that they like play into the producer's hands because you know the producer's like, imagine this is a soccer game.

38:24What would it be like? Like you know, that was a producer. Imagine a hundred percent. Like one billion percent. But it's like he, a god and he really thought he was giving them like exactly what they want. But they're both I did think that's why he can't get a job because every time he goes into whatever office, he talks like it's this big soccer moment and no one can handle it. And they're like, please fire this guy. Well, he's also someone that like was betting on the fact that he was going to be like a superstar. And now he's like, I have to have a regular job. I know. But the job was like 10 years ago. Yeah. I know. I live in, living in your, your, your college days when you're in your like 30s is now again. She was fine. I'm a loser. She was right. She was right. Again, I agree with everything that she said, but the way that she went about it was mishandled from soup to nuts, as they say. And then they would hand to the bride's knees and they were like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. And it wasn't again, it wasn't. I, she should have stood up for herself, not in the, she should have stood up for herself when they went in that weird, when they were like by that fire and like in a cozy little

39:26den of wherever they were. She should have been like, you don't like me. I know that you don't just tell me. Yeah. And he would have been like, I don't. You know what I mean? Like, because that's the other thing. I wanted the reunion for them to say to him, and like the other interview that is shown of you on the show, you're like, I feel great. I feel amazing. I feel about, there is like not one time that he says to the interview, like, I'm, I have concerns. I'm nervous. Do you think that she's going to say the reunion? You know, when we were sitting around the, the glass top table and you had your earphones on, that's when I knew that we would never be together. Because if she does say that, I'll think I'll be even more annoyed because that would have been an, an opportune moment to have been staring at him. But again, she can't do it because she's weak. Yeah. Um, by the way, when he's like, yeah, yeah, I day trade and he's explaining to his like groomsmen. Do you think they're like, yeah, dude, you've been sleeping on all of our couches for the last six years, like dial it back. Also again, it's like day trade, what, like, what are you day trading? And like, you're not doing any, like, what are you trading? No. And he's all about the Australian dollar.

40:27About the Australian dollar for what, you know, sorry, not to like be rude, why, what, what? Yeah. What do you think about his mom, like, with the, the disco drafts and the way she sort of finds, she's, she's a cookie, she's a little, again, she, she, she's like, he learned it from her. She flips in. Like I said, the show made. And again, I don't think she's like, that's not. I mean, to Leo as, as Andy McDowell's character in the show, but like, she flits in. She does her thing. She does whatever. And then she flits out. She never has to have any commitments to anyone. She never has to be loyal to anyone. She never has to like be a, she never has to like be a support system to every anyone. And he's the exact same way. Yeah. Two piece and a pod. Well, I mean, listen, she did dodgeable at not marrying him. We're just disappointed that it went about the way that I just have to react, I still have to react to what I see on the screen, sorry to say. You know what I mean?

41:27Should she have married him? I was there when she was going to say, yes, and he was going to say no, and I was like, you're really pathetic that at least she had at least said no first, you know, yeah. She was guns ablaze and she was ready to cut this off. And I can understand that he's pretty annoying. The way that she taught, yeah, the way that she talked afterwards with her friends and that shot that I don't think she realized was on camera. It was a different person from the person I've been watching the whole time and I didn't like that. Yeah. Oh, man, I'd love to get the producers on the show and ask them what they really thought of her. I guess I'll have to track them down and like take them out for Margarita. Yeah. You'll have to get them drunk. There's no way they'll come on the show. By the way, Patty, we're going to have to go to, we're going to have to go to the quiet woman. Yeah. We're going to have to go to the quiet one. No one has been able thus far to connect us to Patty, Mike's mom. I know. We've been, we'd like to put that out there quite literally begging for it. Patty, now that they have not gone through with the wedding before the reunion next week, can you just please reach out to us? Anyone, please. We're desperate. Desperate. They're probably all under like lock and key for like the next month.

42:29Oh, okay. We may look at like a like a note under the door of my house. Like Sam, I'm just going to drive by and be like, goodbye. We've got Patty. Um, okay. Let's all leave with Vick and Christine. So Vick and Christine, I'm going to say, Vick, it should he decide to leave his vocation as a criminologist and a professor. He could do like the cover of like romance books, like like a Fabio, like a mother Fabio and or he has a quality to his voice, which would be great for an app or voiceover work for an audience. An audio book. Yeah. Now, when she gives him the box, what do you think was in that box? Like nasty lingerie? Kate, I don't know. I'm sorry to tell you this, but I fast forwarded through their whole thing until we got to their vows because I simply couldn't do it. Oh, my God. I know nothing about these people.

43:29I don't know. I have no desire to know anything about these people. They are so painfully boring that I couldn't do it. I think that they alluded in the beginning of the show that there was some sort of a show down where his sister was going to be enraged by the idea of them getting married. But then when you get to the end, you find out the sister is the efficient to the wedding and loves Christine. So I felt a little bit of a let down. People are so weird. People are so weird. Again, cut. Hello. Ding dong. This is this thing on. Cut the cord from your family. Yeah. I know that you, I love my family. I've talked to them all the time. But these people that are like, well, my sister is going to really be ready. It's like, I would tell my, like, I love my sister. I'd be like, shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? Like, like, do you know what I mean? Like, again, I wouldn't even, it wouldn't even be a thing. My sister wouldn't even come in and be like, here I come to like make sure that it's up

44:30that you know what I mean? Like. Yeah. It's so bad. I hate that. There's a lot of like, well, you know, I'm really into my family. And do you need to understand that? I think that's a total red flag weird thing too. Okay. I'll have to, you know, if they, uh-oh, my sister's like you like, I don't know if we can do this. It's like, yeah. You're a manager. You're a loser. Sorry. To quote Ashley, you're a loser. Be an adult, be an adult. Cut that cord, people. Anyway, continue. I do feel like that's a generation of people that watch the bachelor. And that was always the kind of the setup like, you're going to meet, you know, my brother and he's really, he's very protective of me. I mean, that's weird. Like, what do you, is this like flowers in the attic? Why are you so upset with brother? What that says to me is that you pick these fucking losers and your family's like, why are you dating this person? Do you know what I mean? Like that? Yeah. To me, that's a bad representation on you if that's what you're saying. Okay. So she gets all dressed up for the wedding. She looks beautiful. And then a box is shown to them after they get married and it's something like, he gets

45:38a box and it's like, this is for, you know, later tonight. The wedding night. Like, Jing dong. Yeah. And then she says, oh, just so you know, you know, my sister is staying in the same hotel and he's like, but she's not going to be in our room. And he's like, not in our room. I was like, you guys are losers again, boring. I mean, he's like, here, we can't even tell you what's in this box because it's condoms. You know what I mean? That's what I was like, is it toys? Is it lingerie? Is it condoms? Is it like a, a bun cake? Like, what is it? Because they seem so boring. And I don't care. And again, I don't care. Yeah. I simply don't care. Okay. So in the end of this show, why were they always sort of cast off on the side? What was the reason for that? They were so boring, I think. Really? You don't think it was like, oh God, all these couples are a nightmare. We need at least one nice couple. Circle back to that couple seemed to have something going. I just think they were like, well, here's these two. And then, so they stuck them in the back. Yeah. Oh. Okay.

46:38Well, what do you think? Do you think they're still married? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're still married. Yes. I don't know if she's pregnant, but maybe headed toward that. No, I think they're like so happy, which is great for them. Very good. For me, as a viewer, terrible. So take away from the weddings, anything, any other feelings before we get to the reunion where we get to eviscerate the outfits. It seems like in the teaser, there's a lot of reaction shots too. I know, but that makes me nervous because that means to me, that means that there's nothing. Oh. Because I'd rather just see what they're gasping at, but maybe they just want to put nothing in there. Yeah. That looks so weird with that stuff. It's like, they're very different from bravo where they're like, here's the crazy thing that someone says, that's in the promo. So that you go watch it. This thing is like, you never know what's going to happen and it's like, they kind of, they do it differently. You just saw like someone's hair extensions, like flying in the wind as they have backstage. Predictions of like, who's going to look the best? By the way, did you see the clip of Chris, the guy who looks like the mad lib sky, he's

47:41grown out his hair, his hair, I think he's dyed it. So it's a little bit darker with like a little bit of blonde highlights. I feel like that's a move that some dudes do. Like if I grow my hair out, I'm going to look like a little bit cooler, but it looks like greasy and weird. No, he really thinks he's bringing something to this and he's not and it's going to be rough. It's going to be rough and tumble as what it is. What do you think? I think that Ashley will look beautiful as she always does. Yes. Amber's going to wear some fucking cockamamey thing that we're going to be like, absolutely obsessed with because it's going to be out of control. Like it's going to just be so weird or it'll just be her normal little long sleeves, like peasant dress with that, that's like, truly up to her labia. Like it's going to be like that. And then I think the guys are all going to be boring as fuck. They're all just going to be in like plain suits, like it's just not offensive, but just a plain suit or honestly a hoodie, like I feel like one of them will wear a hoodie and what's going to wear a hoodie. He's probably already someone's pregnant, I'm sure, not, you know, pretty.

48:42And Bri is going to wear like something hideous that we're going to wear. She's going to wear, it's like a turtle neck, but like sleeveless on one side and short and a cape and have a cape. With like high heels that like lace up and like wrap around her, every single wrong, everything wrong, every single thing, you know, like every judge, because she can make on the selfie will be wrong. Now, I've heard some rumors that possibly she and Connor are dating now when we think about that. If I don't, I don't want to hear that. I want better for him. But he also needs much like Ashley is weak and needs to say, no, you embarrass me on live television. And like, you said that I like Emma loser and like blah, blah, blah, and like that. No, sorry. Yeah. My friend Christina said to me yesterday, I think that Bri is the kind of person that is sort of mesmerizing because they really do believe that they are someone that they are not. It's, it's almost admirable to envision, she's the, like she's, I think she's manifested

49:45herself into something that she really isn't. No, and she thinks she's like making moves. Yes. And it's like you work at like a lot, you're like a paralegal, like what does she even do? I actually don't know what she does for work. What does she do? I don't even know, but she's sure like to eviscerate that guy, but you're not moving a shaken and doing things. She thinks she's like I'm like making deals. It's like you're like assisting lawyers, like they're actually going out there and like defending clients. And again, there's nothing wrong with being a paralegal at all, but she thinks she's like about to be like at a four, like she thinks she's going to be like on the cover of Forbes tomorrow. She thinks she's Allie McBeal and just putting down this guy that's got like a pretty consistent job. No, Allie McBeal. Not Allie McBeal. I mean, oh, well, that said that that was the weddings and we are, I'm going to look forward to just the outfits alone with a reunion. I can't guarantee that we're going to be, you know, our hair is going to be blown back, but I think it will be appointment TV nonetheless. One thing I did see is we see some of our couples that are still together at these little

50:47tables, like watching, which I feel like they'd often on do that. And I am excited to check back in with them and see what's going on face physically, emotionally. I saw Kwame and Chelsea, and I believe Chelsea cast for this show. I know you said that before, and I believe that you know what, they put her front and center because she's the one who cast the whole show and these are these are like her babies. It's like dance mom. She's like, never forget what I brought to you. Never forget her like slutacious like Calvin Klein photo shoot with the two of them. How could I never never forget I love but again, like she was like, this is what I like. And it's like, okay, yeah. And then who is the other couple and there were more, there were definitely more because I could see in the outside when it was like just someone's like side of their lay was like, there were more people there than we saw. So I wonder who else is going to be I'm excited to check in with our people again. A lot of like, oh, oh, and we didn't even see Vanessa and so is there some sort of big room? Before didn't we have didn't we have like a article that was like, here's all their looks.

51:48When is that coming? When is that coming? I think I was ready to come here and like destroy where I know why not to do next week. I guess so I'm I'm bracing for impact just the shoes alone. I feel like you're going to have a lot to say. I know, but they have the shoes have not been triggering me. Good. Okay, good. Who you know remind me who which season had the worst shoes Denver? Last season, was that Denver? Yeah, with Sparkle Megan and all them, that was last season. Yeah, the guy, the Russian guy with the truck driver and then the girl that was the model. And then I would like to serve you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to do some research on some of the couples of the seasons past just to circle back and give you like a little bit of life update. I think what we should do is you should get all their Instagrams and put it in like a Google doc and we'll just like click through and so we can just live just go through and look at their Instagram and see like what's up and just talk and shoot the mother fucking shit. You know what I mean? And just be like, no, there's no agenda for this. We're just going to give our thoughts of what we see on their Instagram.

52:49Did I tell you that I may have already told you this, but every year my sister and her friends would get together after January 1st and bring their stack of Christmas cards and then just go through and discuss each person's like Christmas lettering card. Okay, that's so mean and I love it. That's why I stopped doing Christmas cards. I was like, yeah, because you're like, I can't be a part of this conversation. I can't be part of that. No way. She's like, my bitch sister here she is. Exactly. Okay, good. Fixing famous people. I'm coming up. We're going to be recording this week. Do you want to tell them who we will be discussing? We're going to be fixing Heather Locklear. Heather Locklear. That's a good one. She's not for, she's not on the list for a while, so I'm excited to talk about her. Oh good. I did suggest Joey Lawrence, but that dream's not going to happen. Things are in the works, wink, just saying. Okay, wink. But I think this is a good time for people to reach out to you and tell you people that they think you should also call you. Yeah, my DMs are always open. If you think someone needs to be fixed now, again, this person needs to be redeemable.

53:51People are like, Kanye West, I'm like, no, you know what I mean? That's the night. Yeah, that's not the point. I think like, you know, a child above is not someone that I'm going to be fixing. You know what I mean? Actually, both of those people are on the unfixables list, which is like my, my band list of people. So if you think like someone who either like is in some hot water that we're like, yowza or someone who is like, where to think like Heather Locklear is a perfect example of like, they were a star and now where are they? You know what I mean? And a lot of the times you find out they just had kids and didn't want to do the same work, which is like completely normal. But that's not normal for me. I don't, I want more, you know what I mean? So if you can think of someone that you want to put on the list, DM me that again, they need to be able to be redeemed. Two quick things as we go out. One, Hudson from heated rivalry has been hired. JLo is going to direct your next movie and he is going to be in it. And she's now following on Instagram. So I feel like you guys are going to have a lot of feelings about that.

54:52And the second thing is that I saw a clip with Lauren Bezos. And she said she would like to go back to space. Yeah. Okay. Who, who, who, who at this time? I don't, I don't know. Nicki Nicki Minaj and Sydney Sweeney. I'm sure. Well, I heard that they went to a bunch of fellas to try to get like, like a guy's space trail. Oh God. Oh, brother. No one wanted to go. I'm surprised. I feel like the soap opera actors of our time would want to go. Yeah, but that, no, but they're like we, they want, they, they want to try to pull in people like, like, a listers to be in their orbit and get them under their spell. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Well, that's going to be, that's going to be a hard one for people to accept. Yeah. And what, and what, and how do you ask? Do you want to go on a space rocket to Mars? Do you want to do blue, worth looking for? We're looking up another blue origin flight. You know who's going to go? Jared Leto or 100% who make that part of his kid rock?

55:53Kid Rock would go, uh, I don't know. You need to go on. I don't think they want him, but he would do it. I think they would like Kid Rock. No, but I think they're like, he's a loser. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, like, they're like, no, we were like, Jared Leto is a perfect person. He's a charlatan, a call leader and hot. You know what I mean? And like, actually still on a list celebrity, even though all of his movies tanked. Right. Or Andrew Keegan, I think he may be involved in cold adjacent activities. As far as I can remember from a couple of years ago, so they should circle back with him too. Not famous enough. All right. Well, thank you. It's working people follow you. You can follow me at the Christopher Rosa and you can follow my show at Fixing Famous People. Thank you for the work that you do and enjoy filming today. Time to go do some interviews, some sit down intro interviews with some new people. A lot. There's nothing I love more. Well, here we go. I think you're going to have to go. Amazing KC. Thank my great guest, Christopher Rosa, and remind you to make sure that you click subscribe.

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