
E184 | Trezor CTO | How Quantum Computers Could Empty Every Bitcoin Wallet
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Trezor's CTO, Tomáš Sušánka, breaks down how AI is changing the scam landscape and why even security experts are getting fooled.
From AI deepfake Microsoft Teams calls to voice cloning and phishing sites that nearly caught the CTO himself, this conversation covers the modern security playbook everyone needs for 2026.
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0:00 Introduction
2:07 Does Tomas Like To Talk
4:15 What Does Tomas Do & Why
5:15 How Much Does Bitcoin Matter To Tomas
6:28 Why Should People Still Care About Bitcoin
8:25 Who Is Tomas Sushanka
10:10 Why Humans Are So Bad With Security
12:58 Tomas’s Thoughts On People Downplaying Risk
14:27 How Should One Think About Risk
15:25 Does Intelligence Play A Role In Risk
16:54 Why Do Smart People Fall For Scams
23:39 How Do We Fix This Scam Problem
25:12 Partnerships: @Variational @BitwiseInvest
26:05 Which Security Mistake Would Tomas Remove
28:57 How Tomas Protects His Assets
29:49 What’s The Craziest Hack Tomas Has Seen
31:24 A Security Habit That Makes Tomas Look Crazy
32:27 Why Someone Should Care About Self-Custody
36:05 When Should People Look Into A Hardware Wallet
37:48 A Strategy For Hardware Risk Management
44:16 How Does One Manage The Inheritance Problem
46:29 Should People Keep Assets On An Exchange
47:32 Partnership: @KASTxyz
48:20 What Security Setup Should Kevin’s Grandma Use
50:08 Things To Can Do To Prevent Hacks & Scams
1:01:57 Should People Upgrade Their Trezor Wallets
1:05:28 How Self-Custody Will Evolve & Not Be Archaic
1:08:07 Partnerships: @JupiterExchange @Ethena
1:08:50 The Biggest Problem With Self-Custody
1:09:52 Is Quantum Computing A Worry For Crypto
1:14:48 Who’s Taking Quantum Computing Seriously
1:20:41 Who’s Securing Bitcoin Against Quantum Risk
1:23:58 A Crypto Belief That Tomas Disagrees With
1:26:12 Is There A Future For Digital Identity
1:27:56 Could Self-Custody Become Too Complicated
1:28:42 Dangerous Advice Tomas Had Heard Before
1:29:43 Does AI Make You Safer Or Vulnerable
1:31:25 Closing Thoughts
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