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about Joe. I was standing at six four and weighing 250 pounds. 215. No, my bad. 215 pounds. Fuck was drafted number one overall in 2020 in just five seasons. He's made his mark is one of the leagues premier young quarterbacks with three trips to the playoffs in a Super Bowl appearance. Raising Ohio. His college football journey took him from Ohio State to LSU where he won the Highsman trophy in a national championship having one of the greatest seasons in college football history. Actually, that's the first time I've ever heard about Joe borrow or seen him play or just learned anything about him was the national championship game when he was at LSU and I literally was sitting there like this guy's Tom Brady of college football and just the first game I've seen him play actually in the first half just watching him go but like back to this he's not only recognized as an emerging face in the league but also for charitable work throughout his home state of Ohio. Cheers. What is the first thing you think of when you hear the name Joe.
Burrow Joe cool first thing comes my kids cool we all I think we were all watching those those national championship year games and in like the the meal rooms before games with all our teammates you know remember watching those and like you'd watch these LSU teams and yeah they had a lot of great players but he was just dice and fools I think he beat like every record you could beat passing throwing yards this that in college so when he came in it was like who's this kid gonna beat like he had a stand he had he he played himself into some craziness like this guy who is this kid then he came and he played he went to damn Super Bowl the Cincinnati Bengals like two years into his career which was crazy like he's just he's backed shit up he's always been the guy and he's backed it up I think he's just a calm cool collect guy man I love his game I love watching him play climbs the pocket like as a receiver these are the kind of quarterbacks you want that you dream of yeah because he's gonna sit in that pocket he's gonna find you he's gonna
deliver the ball I don't you know I don't want guys that are running because you get the ball I love the way he just slides up in that pocket every time he's just got such great pocket presents and that's why I love them so much when I watch from the national championship game because that's what he was showing and that's what time does as well 100% the best pocket passes in history actually probably the best and that's what makes him the greatest quarterback ball time it's not like he was running around yeah because he was such a great pocket presence and he would slide right up and he just kept delivering that ball right on the money and he was he was reading the whole entire field and every guy was covered but he stayed so cool within the in the national championship game and then all of a sudden he just looked to his left boom and just dish it off to the running back you get 10 yeah and he would just always know who to go to find the guy that's open never forced the ball if he does force the ball he's gonna force it in a pocket to where only his receiver can get it and not the defenders and that's what makes this guy so great at the quarterback position no ands ifs or buss up buts about it jewels I know he and that's like when when you say pocket
presents when you watch a guy like who has good pocket presents for example Brady it's when he can step up or slide to the right while he's keeping his eyes down the field to buy himself a half a second to deliver the football like it's not like it's rat athletic but it's like a six cents where you know where to go to stay in the pocket so the guy running the hump goes over you you know the pocket pressure the guard comes this way you step this way you go to your left a little and it's like a six cents and you see that with Joe burrow there were so many third downs where he steps up knows where his last read is finds that in cut delivers a good ball you know I'm really sad about their team right now because they're really good I feel like they're better than what they're doing but he's a stud and when you have a quarterback like that I can step up in the pocket and stay in the pocket as well it's you know extend the time in the pocket because he just got great pocket present this is when you actually as a receiver you cannot cut your routes short no
you have to get all your depth that you need to get so you got a 12 year didn't cut you have to get the 12 yards because it's all about timing with this guy and this timing goes from practice to a game because when you have a pocket presence quarterback it's not street ball it's real football it's the hardest football to defend when you got a quarterback like this so get your depth in the in the receiving game if you're a wide receiver or a tight end and do out a little details that you need to do because that ball is going to come eventually you don't know when but it's going to come and if you're the fifth read always be ready for it because if all four reads are covered it's going to the fifth read every single time depth in spacing is only really important on zone man coverage you can break your depth and yeah man coverage what do you think about when you hear he's a coach's son what does that mean to you coaches son means like kind of like a coaches pet but like I don't see that with Joey B like yeah like that that's kind of what he's saying I was saying son of a coach is he is he yeah I think his dad his dad's a big coach so it's it's literal he's a coach but you're talking about him being with the bangles like he's
a coach's son no no he's literally a son of the coach all right well then to like in the scouting report if he's a son of the coach is that good thing or is that about what that means he smart loves ball round ball group round that you know it it exists in the family you know it's a trait that that's a pass down I mean it's good to know that family members tradition of football exists in the family yeah that means you got toughness that means you got grit and if if one family member in a decade and then there's another family member that means that's a football family and that's who you want on your team yeah there's no doubt about that I agree like if I have a kid I mean they hear groc is you know a little mini groc is on their team but you want that same with jewels all we got little Julian Adam in coming if you have a boy but eventually on the football team maybe you know your daughter will be the first kicker maybe playing football ever now yeah you never know she plays soccer right now so hopefully she is the first but they're going to be like we got it out of them in our team but this is amazing like it's just passed down like it's just a tradition of just football now just passed down football now you gotta get your flag
and you said you're gonna meet Joe go cool I have I we did it we did a nerf shoot together nerf shoot okay or super bowl week before he was about to get drafted is him McCaffrey Adams from from the jets at the time the safety we talked about earlier and we we did this content he was a cool kid he just got a he's got a confidence look about him he's just confident you know it's not cocky it's just like we had him do a scene where he had to throw a football like one of those little nerf footballs and then dude like threw it over the house and like walked off and it was just like that's pretty fucking cool you know he's not even trying to be cool but he is he's just comes naturally just comes natural you ever meet him yes one time it was actually this year so but we got to go away back a little bit like when Malcolm Brown was drafted to the Patriots like whatever how many years ago that was yeah what 2015 what first round picked the tackle out of
Texas I got a text message that night the night that draft and it was like hey Rob it's Malcolm Brown like pleasure to be on your team I can't wait to get back to work in the football field you know and just I don't know to be your teammate it was something along those lines and I wrote back like man you know great to have you out in that eventually that night called the number and it was it was not Malcolm Brown who I got duped it was just a random fan and they duped me to answer back and saying it was Malcolm Brown so my phone number got passed around somehow some way and I got duped like I got got got as Martian Lynch would say on his back guys I got got all right I got got so now fast forward I was like I ain't ever going to let that shit happen to me ever again I ain't answering random numbers like if someone has my number it's because I know they have my number or something that's my official rule from here on out after I retired with Tampa Bay Buccaneers my second stint in the NFL they're like they're everyone's still trying to get me to play you know I asked me questions in the media when I had to do some media rounds you're like you know who is the quarterback that you would love to play with you know to this day and era like playing
right now and it can't be Brady obviously I'm like obviously I'm not gonna pick Brady I'm like Joe Burrow but he because he reminds me of Brady and I just loved the way that he presents himself in the pocket went everywhere went everywhere and I retired that year and then I get a text message go ground what's up man I saw I saw you talking about me in the media it's Joe Burrow like I would love for you if you came to the Cincinnati Bengals I was like I was like I ain't getting what I'm like I ain't getting got again like this this is nuts like I ain't falling for this shit like I ain't gonna answer I thought it was cooler shit though I was like this would be cool as hell if this is Joe Burrow trying to recruit me to go to the Bengals but also at the same time he's got to know I'm tapped out he does not want me on that team but he thinks he does because of my history but when I'm tapped out and I know I'm not pulling football anymore he you don't want me yeah so I'm gonna tell you that just you know myself I mean you do I would have still been good you still would have been but even when you're covered you're not covered I'm at the white party this year shout out to Michael Rubin having the white party and I go up to him I walk right
by I'm like oh what what up Joe you know nice to meet you is the first time I've ever met him and then like within like 10 seconds he's like go you like something along the line like yo you never responded to me and like I knew exactly what he was talking about and I was like no frickin way that that was actually you bro he's like yeah I texted you like after you said like that you wanted to play with me in the media I wanted you to come to Cincinnati and I was like bro I never thought in a million years that was you bro I was like I'm sorry I apologize man because I love Joe Burrow yeah and I it because of Malcolm Brown text message because someone got me so I was just I at that time I was like bro I'm sorry bro I love your game and I was like you don't want me you didn't want me anyway so it was a good thing I didn't answer I turned into that so in that situation just take a guess just go with your heart and if you truly believe who's texting you at that moment you should have faith if you don't know the number time what kind of dude is Joe Burrow that's easy man I mean obviously he's kind of a dude's
dude for sure he is too cool he is too cool you can't be a dude's dude when you're too cool now when you're too cool he's got some dog you know he does he's got some ways in them but I think he's just a stud he is a stud 100% that's what I was going with I'm not even gonna argue with that the dog that I saw in him was after national championship game when he smoked that cigar and just sat there and like did those interviews or whatever and took a couple pictures with the cigar and his mouth that was dog like for sure but it's also he's deadly enough to do it like what it's like back and everything he had a little Jerry he's got the little you got the Superman curl he's got the Superman logo swoop a right out the frosted tips I mean are you jealous of his Superman hair look hell you have your arduals hell you kind of got that going a little bit no but not to his level no he's like he's got like a texture hair I got this straight ass hair aware yeah Joe Burrow he's too cool he's definitely stamp it stud and Jules what's the first thing you think of
when you hear the name Jaden Daniels first thing I think about when I think of Jaden Daniels is calm cool and collect I mean he's doing things right now that that no rookie quarterback has ever done he's doing things that veteran quarterbacks don't do that's a good point I mean it's it's really unreal to watch him play like in crucial situations everyone thinks he's a you know running guy but he's delivered crazy situational like drives where he he capitalized on a third down or or you know he capitalized on a fourth down throwing the football I mean he's dissecting man I I'm so it's been so impressive to watch I'm at a loss of words because these last couple of years we've seen quarterbacks come out and play very strong rookie years you know CJ Stroud last year and then Jaden like that was like the best rookie season all time for a quarterback
then Jaden Daniels comes here in the league and he's got two playoff wins and this was a joke of a franchise joke they only won four games last year I mean it is unreal you got to tip your cap to Dan Quinn Cliff Kingsbury Cliff's fucking developing this kid I watched his stats I watched his film from you know we were watching this film in college and you could see he was a gifted guy but you watch it in the league and now he's like he's progressing through these his progressions and he's delivering the ball over the middle of the field you watch his highlight film in in college I mean he's throwing him league neighbors Brian Thomas and he's throwing all these go routes which he's putting them right where they have to be I've been watching them dissect defenses I mean he's it's so impressive what do you think the Washington commanders first year ownership first year head coach first year offense a coordinator first year everything else that they got going on
everything else and the most important piece rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels without a doubt put it that way this guy's special he's never there's never a stage that's too big for him yet even just as a rookie and I would I would date back to that is because you got to have experience in order to be able to handle a stage that big and he was handling that stage when he was at LSU I mean you're in front of 80,000 people a week when you're 100,000 people a week when you're in the SEC and on top of it he's so experienced he played about what four or five years in college he's 25 years 25 years yeah 25 years old he's just like bone next those guys stepped in and they handled every situation that was thrown at them because they played so much football ready in college so to all you quarterbacks out there staying in college for four or five years is fine you're still going to get a chance at the NFL and actually might make you better you know your first you know year or two in the NFL because you're developed already you already seen so many situations you already seen so much good football you know coming at you so Jaden Daniels is one of those
guys that represents that that you can be totally ready even after a five year even after staying for five years in college which is which is amazing without doing but yeah he's the most important piece to this what new Washington commanders this new style of everything that they represent his offense a coordinator obviously Cliff Kingsbury I think is helped him out tremendously as well he's like a quarterback whisperer he knows how to relate to the young bucks he had what he had Patrick Maholmes in college he in Arizona Kyler Murray he dealt with as well and helped develop and he's doing he's very successful quarterback to Cliff and what was it there's some miced up stuff or there was an interview with some of the player Cliffs over here talking about Instagram models with some of these guy like they just have such a connection that's how we relate to these young bosses I mean they got connection right now it's been so fun I don't know anything about I don't know anything about I swear well these guys over here was talking about it I don't
either but click on my explore page it's all front cheese yes smart instincts he's a dynamic threat as well yeah everyone's like hey get down because he's skinny man those linebackers get a whole of them they could do some damage to him but he's just got to get down I mean yeah I know you're a young book you he's a young buck still so you can take a couple hits but he's slippery enough like you said that he can maybe he's to avoid it you got to I mean he's got consistency as well that's what makes a great quarterback is this guy has consistency as just a rookie yeah you know that's incredible I mean he gets through his reads quickly as well I like it is big hands he got big hands yeah he's a huge hands or is that penics that might have been panic it looks like a guy that would have big hands yeah Jayden Daniels looks like you know he's so skinny I he might just have average hands I love how he is at the podium too he's just calm all over the place he's calm under pressure he's calm at the podium he's calm after you know when he's doing interviews after the game he's just calm at all time and I swear you got to have that personality like that
to be a quarterback in the NFL it's kind of like being a golfer a little bit you just got to be calm the whole entire you know day because there's going to be ups there's going to be downs and then if you're just in the middle you're just always ready to go at any given time so Tom was always calm he what he we was in in pressurized situations in pressure but like there's going to be a time you got to pick it up you got to pick it up but Jayden's calm at all times yeah it just goes with him it does and his leadership is just a rookies incredible I would say his days you know at LSU have gotten him that that skill set to have that leadership and also he bounced around a little bit in college so do you think guys that bounce around like that in college does that help their leadership and that helps their knowledge of the game because they're learning so many different systems and you got to become a leader instantly when you get to a new school well I think that the experience of having to gain the respect of a new team multiple times put some in a great position to go and if he's balling great do the same thing in the league and that's and that's
what we're seeing I mean he's gotten the respect of his team at arrows on a state LSU and now you could see that the team is rallying behind him I mean Terry McLoren's happy he's been you know he's been playing with no quarterbacks his whole career finally as a quarterback and look at you know the damage he's done this year I just think it's I mean he's he's just he's unreal and he and the what's cool is that the Washington commanders surrounded him with the pieces to succeed as well they went out they got veteran running back Austin Accler who's a beast running the ball out of the backfield right out of the backfield on third downs in passing situations get a hold on the ball Zach Irton veteran Titan who's very consistent you know out there out in the field who he's been feeding throughout the playoffs as well then you got superstar wide receiver McLoren who's been there for a while and needed a quarterback so it was a win-win situation for them as well and then you got him with one of the best you know new head coaches in the game as well Dan Quinn and I believe Dan Quinn is the reason now if you look at it why the cowboys were 12 and five over
the last couple years I mean without him being with the Dallas Cowboys they absolutely tank this year on the defense aside of the ball and even Michael Parsons even brought up that they missed Dan Quinn throughout this season as well so Dan Quinn you got to give kudos to him for developing you know helping with the development of Jayden Danis but also boosting that defense and just the team overall the morale you know for the Washington commanders now I see why the the Cowboys were that good over the last couple years and Dan Quinn and this is we're talking about Jayden Daniels but Dan Quinn this is a tip of the cap for the defensive coaches that get a bad rap when you're looking at this oh like we got a new young quarterback let's let's surround them with the quarterback guru or something like like Dan Quinn he's a he's defensive guy he's developing day Jayden Daniels now I know Cliff Kings where he's a huge part of that but you know this is this big for defense everyone it takes everyone man you got to have that that had coach all end to develop him too no doubt about that remember that how Mary though
against Chicago you think that changed their season this year when when Jayden Daniels a second pick overall how married the first pick overall Cald Williams I mean was that the game changing of like game changing event game changing play of their season you think I think that's one of those moments where you got like a destiny team it's a destiny team moment when you look back on it that one plays going to be signatured on all the highlights and all everything because you know you they needed that to win that game and that's a huge part of the reason why they're in the playoffs you know that's how that's why the NFL is best every game counts you know we're going to look back and all those games that you know the Cincinnati bangles lost because of a play or you know the the Chicago Bears lost because of you know a bad play here or there you know these this team right here the Washington commanders they've had those plays and that's why they're in the position that they're in and it's been remarkable because you're doing it with a young guy
that's never done it and he's either he looks like he gives I mean I usually am so pessimistic like deep down inside with like young quarterbacks in the playoffs like he looks good he looks good he looks like a savvy vet like he's been playing for like five years he slows the game down like even when because you when you watch him on the sidelines and he makes everyone miss and he gets out right away and he protects himself but he gets out like he's always like he's always a step ahead of the defender and then even when they're blitzing them like he sits there and and they're so scared to fully go at him because they can make them they got made miss earlier in that game. So there's this a bit of hesitation and then he's delivering the football on these blitz zeros he's defeated blitz zero a whole lot of bunch this year like up to like more than a lot of these quarterbacks in crucial situation got to have it situations it's been crazy and when you can beat blitz zero as a quarterback especially when you're that young you're going to be set up for rest of your career and they're then they're going to stop practicing your and then the
run game just opens up that much more and it's wild that he's that the game is that slow for him that he can beat blitz zero and put the ball where he needs to put it in like a split second which is just incredible. I got a question for you Jules who is a better passer right now Jaden Daniels or Lamar Jackson. Oh, don't be scared. Don't be scared. I mean the kids scared to answer. I'll tell you right now. It's a scary. It's out but you said it on the blitz zero point Lamar's last two seasons have ended on blitz zero. You'll put your money on Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels to handle that blitz zero. What I've seen. You heard it here first, folks. You heard it. I'm going Jaden Daniels. I think he's good. Who's got who's got better legs? Well, my Jackson or Jaden Dan, there we go. Okay, that makes up for it. Okay, more is a beast. Jaden Daniels or
Michael or Michael Vick legs legs. Vic. Yeah. I agree. Vic. I agree. Wow. Jaden Daniels a beast. Well, what kind of dude is this guy? We've been braving about him. You know, we've been going off about his skills. He's great pastor. Dual Threat can run the Heisman. He's skinny. Heisman has an eye out deals his ASU teammates told him he sucked when he left and he didn't care. He didn't even listen to them. Yeah, they said you suck. Get the clean out your locker. Get out of here. Really? Yeah. Video surface of them cleaning out his locker room and his teammates on IG telling me and he sucks after he left ASU. I mean, that's ASU for you. I would, you know, that's that's the scum devils for you. They would do that type of stuff. I mean, I don't I don't know why I'm saying that about them. Oh, I know why because I went to the University of Arizona. Wildcats bear down, baby. But what kind of dude is Jaden Daniels? Is he a whiz? He's definitely a whiz. He's a whiz. Yeah, he is, but he's kind of a dog, but like, but not not really because he's too like
he's too skinny. Maybe to be a dog. Like he's not like cussing people out. He's a free to because he's really fast and he yeah, that's yeah, he's freaky. Yeah, because you're skinny and like you get really freaky when you're skinny as an athlete. I think he's a stud. He might be a stud. I mean, his athleticism football. Just the way he handles himself on three, on three. Who do you think? One, two, three, stud. And it's because he's just been, I mean, he's won the Heisman. He's gone here. He was supposed to do what he's doing right now. That's what studs do. They do what you're supposed to do at the podium. Sounds the way we all think he should sound probably. I mean, the post game interviews on the field, I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, it's like he didn't win the game because he's just so calm. Like it's not like he's, you know, overly like celebrating and just a celebration. Like he's just like he gives the praise to everyone too. Yeah. And yeah, he does. I mean, he gives the praise to the team.
He did a great job. The coaches did great. The, you know, why are you serious? It's incredible, man. It's like he's a 10 year vet. He's got pedigree. He's got that football IQ. He's a stud. He's a lovely stud. Preparation. It's the foundation of every great NFL performance. It's the early morning practice sessions, the late night workouts and the run it one more time moments. Net app, the NFL's official intelligent data infrastructure partner takes the same methodical approach ensuring 3.5 terabytes of game day data reaches over 380 million fans worldwide instantly and securely with the right preparation. Net app can help transfer your business and future proof it for the AI revolution. Visit netapp.com slash NFL today to see why true progress comes from harnessing data with purpose. You know, I've always said Boston isn't just a sports town.
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