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4:03That's right. I found her. I was a Los Angeles lady. This is my partner, Frank Smith, my name's Friday. What if you feel up to telling us exactly what happened? Oh, sure. It's about the most terrible thing ever happened to you. It's not when you get to me. Although, thanks. JD brought me some hot coffee. Who's Janie? Janie, all of a sudden she worked the first three flowers. She brought me some hot coffee. Thanks. She was up here and they let her bring it. All right, Mr. Joyce. If you just tell us about it, please. Right from the beginning, you want to hear all about the whole thing? If you would, please. Well, I came on it four just like always. A punch stand and came up with the 10th floor and started in. Got the things out of the closet on the 10th. Here's me, I started on the 7th. But now and I like to do it a little different and I start on 10. Yes, ma'am. What time was it when you found the body? Oh, just a few minutes ago. I got a guess about seven right right in there. I only had two more offices to do when I'd be finished. I just had two more when I got there. Yes, ma'am.
5:04Should go ahead and tell us about finding the body. Oh. Well, I unlocked the door and I saw the light inside. I thought it was kind of funny because usually it's dark. You mean in the office? Yes, and where Mrs. Fitzgerald's desk is, it's usually dark. I thought it was kind of funny like I said. But then I thought that maybe she was working. She does a county, you know, woman accountant. And I thought she was working. So I knocked. I didn't just want to go right in if she was working, you know, disturbers. Well, I knocked. But she didn't answer. I go ahead, please. Well, I opened the door and went in. Right off, I was kind of sore about it. And I'm excused for a thing like that. No, excuse me. Oh, what do you mean? Well, didn't you see the place? Didn't you look? Yeah. Well, then you know what a mess it was. Paper's all over the floor. The ash tray's filled. I'll add a mess and I'm supposed to be true. At 7.30, I had never made it. It never got through on time.
6:05And that's when I saw her behind the desk. Oh, it's an awful thing. There she was on the floor, did. Yes, ma'am. There was no one else in the office. No. This is Fitzgerald. She was on the floor behind the desk. What'd you do then? I screamed. No, this loud as I could. I wanted somebody to come up there right away. When I was the first time I ever saw anybody dead. Then I ran out of the office and went downstairs to get somebody to help. Just an awful thing. Oh. Poor, this is Fitzgerald. Oh, she was so nice. All the time saying hello. When she'd come in early and I'd still be working. Oh, I think about it. And I just can't believe that it is true. I just can't hardly believe it. Did you see anyone on the floor while you were working? Just Mrs. Fitzgerald. No, ma'am. I mean, was there anybody in the halls of the building? Oh, no. No, not that I saw. There wasn't anybody. I didn't see them if they were there, but they weren't there. All right, Ms. Joyce.
7:06We'll contact you tomorrow about a statement. Meantime. Leave you one of our cards here. If you think of anything, we should know. We'd appreciate it if you give us a call. Oh, sure, will. Anything at all, I think. I'll call you. Can I go now? Yes, ma'am. I'll have to go home and take a hot bath and come, my nerves. Surely. Oh, sure. It's going to be a shock to her husband. Of course, not that he'll mind too much. A big point. Her husband, you know, Mr. Fitzgerald. Yes, ma'am. What about him? Well, just said it isn't going to bother that one too much. Why do you say that? Well, I shouldn't have said anything. Not a word. I shouldn't have told you. I'd get fired, sure. Well, if it's got anything to do with Mr. Fitzgerald's death, maybe you better tell us something. Well, if you'll come, it's not to call a supervisor. All right, go ahead. And get the dog just being in a big building by yourself, all alone at night when there isn't anybody around. It's pretty dog. Once in a while, not real often. But just once in a while, I kind of read some of the letters that people throw away, you know,
8:08in the waist basket. You know, a lot of it more. So when it gets real dull, I read them. I've read some of Mr. Fitzgerald's office from her husband, Mr. Fitzgerald. Seems like they've been having some kind of a big fight. Going to court and all. I don't know what it's all about, but they've been fighting. And in the letters, he tells how she ought to leave him alone. I guess she's asking for a lot of our money or something. That's what it sounded like to me. Some of the letters, the way you wrote to her, mean, used to threaten her all the time. You saw these letters where he threatened her, did you? Yes. One, I guess it was about a week ago. He said in that, if she tried to railroad the thing through, well, that's what he said. Railroad the thing through. He'd come up here and... Yes, go ahead. Well, that's all there is. I couldn't find the other piece of the letter where he said what he was going to do. See, she tore up the letters after she read them. All right, Ms. Joyce, thank you very much. No, I hope I helped. Yes, ma'am, I certainly have.
9:09Sure. I could have found that other piece of the letter. No way of knowing what it said. Destiny. You suppose he really meant it. I don't know, we'll ask him. But the time Frank and I had arrived at the scene the crew from the crime lab was there. Photographs of the entire room were taken and fingerprints were lifted from the edges of the desk, from the top of a lamp, and from the molding around the door. The murder weapon, a 15-inch section of heavy-led pipe, was booked for evidence. There was nothing we could tell from the pipe itself other than the fact that it was the murder instrument. It was a plain piece of three-quarter inch pipe. One end was wrapped in a heavy brown paper. The other was blood stained. Because of the appearance of the office, it looked as if Robbrew was the motive for the crime. However, on examination of the victim's personal effects, we found the two large diamond rings were still in our fingers. In her purse, we found cash in the amount of $226. On the desk itself, we found a woman's wristwatch set with 12 diamonds. The fact that none of this had been removed apparently ruled out Robbrew is the motive.
10:10The other employees of the building were questioned, but they were unable to shed any light on a possible suspect. None of them had seen any unauthorized persons in the place after closing hours. People on the street in the immediate vicinity were questioned. The only lead we were able to come up with was that at approximately 702 AM, a newsboy had seen a short stocky man walk from the office building entrance. Other than the brief description of the man's build, the witness was unable to tell us anything. An immediate broadcast was gotten out on what information we had. From a telephone book in the victim's desk, we got an address for her husband, Oscar Fitzgerald. It was a men's club located in downtown Los Angeles. Frank and I drove over to talk to him. Come in. Thank you. Thank you very much. Sit down. I'll call for some coffee. You fellas, myself? No, no thanks. No, sir. You're on my via, sir. No, you go right ahead. Room service, please. Kind of early for the cops to come call in. Yes, sir. I guess it is. This is Mr. Fitzgerald room 417. Would you please send up a pot of coffee? That's right. Oh, and send a lot of glass of orange juice, too, huh? Yeah, make sure it's called. 417. Right.
11:11One thing I can't go is warm orange juice. Like Sarah? Yeah, thank you. Now, what's this all about? What do you want to see me for? Well, when's the last time you saw your wife? Ada? Thank you. I guess a couple weeks ago, why? Can you narrow that down to a day? Why, any special reason for me, too? Well, we'd like to hear it. I'm gonna say, I guess it's around March 30th. I can check it if it's important. Where'd you see it? With my lawyers, we had a conference to try and work out the divorce and settlement. What line of work are you in, Fitzgerald? I think you'd better tell me what this is all about before I answer any more questions. And this is some sort of trick, Ada's trying. You tell her it won't work and she can get off my back. No, it's no trick. I think it might be better if you cooperate with us and answer the question. No, I'm gonna tell you going in that if you try to pull a fast one, I'm gonna deny everything I tell you now. You tell us the truth, you won't have any trouble. No, where do you work? Right now, I'm the twin. What's that mean exactly? I'm an actor, right now I haven't gotten a son. What'd you work last? Picture studio. Look, until you tell me what this is for, I'm not gonna give any names. Can you give us your movements for the past few days? Starting when? Now, let's try the day before yesterday.
12:14Okay, I got up and went out to see my agent. Of course, that was a waste of time. Hung around the office for a couple hours and then head lunch on the strip. After that, I came down town saw a movie. I came home, took a shower and kept dinner in gate. You proved that? If I have to, yeah. But you get no names until I know what's going on. All right, how about yesterday? What'd you do then? You went and got up and went out to my agents. He told me I had a part on the fire. We went out on an interview. I was at the studio until about 4'30 and then we went back to my agent's office and had a couple of drinks. After I came back here, it didn't feel too good. And I went to bed. Well, man, if the desk would be able to verify all that, would he? Yeah, just ask me. I've touched your own hard to get along with your wife. Well, it's not any of your business, but I'll tell you. It isn't any secret. I hated everything about it. Your remedy fights with it? Not more than five a week for the past four years. The other year? You know, people went money for answering questions on quiz shells. What happens if I answer the big one? That depends on how you're going to answer it. I understand you wrote your wife some threatening letters. Am I right? I guess you could call me, yeah. I told her to get off my back and leave me alone. Tell her she didn't. She was building more trouble than she could handle. You ever threatened her wife?
13:15No. I'm not going to try to tell you that there were times when I could have killed her. There were a lot of them, but it wasn't worth it, not for her. Well, I'll argue about it mostly. Is it divorce? I've been trying to get one for the last four years. I had a wooden seat. If I had a girlfriend, I'd do it. The settlement she wanted was way out of line. I wouldn't go for it and tell her so. What's all this about the fights and the threatening? Anyway, something happened to it, is that it? Yes, sir. She's been hurt. I've heard it's more serious than that. She dead? Yes, sir. You think I did? No, we're checking everybody's at the door. Okay, I told her there were times when I could have, and I maybe wanted to, but I wouldn't go to jail for it. Not ever. You've got to find out a boy. When you do, I'll go as lawyers, please. Yeah. And they do. Please let pipe. Bad? Yeah. We're afraid to go. Is there an easy way? We made a preliminary search of the room, but we found nothing that would tie in the victim's husband, Oscar Fitzgerald with a crime. We talked to the desk clerk, and he verified the man's story
14:15that he'd been in his apartment the evening the killing. Fitzgerald made arrangements with us to attend the corners in question. Frank and I went back to the city hall. We checked with a crime lab on their investigation. Lieutenant Lee Jones told us that they'd been able to lift several partial fingerprints from the murder weapon, but that they were impossible to classify. He went on to say that the other prints that had been found at the scene were unusable as evidence, since it would be difficult to get enough points for identification. The other physical evidence taken from the office was of little use. A check had been made at the piece of pipe, but it was found to be of a common type and impossible to trace. Microphotographs have been made at the serrated edges, and these had been booked as evidence. We asked the staff's office to make a run on the MO of the crime, and they told us they would start through their files immediately. For the next two days, Frank and I talked to all of the friends and relatives of the victim attempting to find a motive for the crime. From what we had to work on, the only plausible reason for the killing was either Revanjard Yellowstone. None of Mrs. Fitzgerald's friends or business acquaintances were able to point out anyone with a strong enough reason to kill the woman. Monday, April 19th, Frank and I got back to the office after interviewing one of the victim's business competitors.
15:19I like another one that didn't go any place. You know, it seems like that's all we've been drawn on this one, doesn't it? Yeah, I'll check the book. All right. Anything committed from the staff's office, yeah? No, except they've had the rest of the run for us this afternoon. First punch didn't turn anything. I got it. Homicide, Friday. Yeah, Jack. Anything on him? Sure. We're no place now. Well, no, anything's gotta be. Wanna give me that address? All right. All right, we'll check it. Friends. Right, Jack. Thanks again. Bye. The Jack McCready says he talked to one of his informants this morning. He came up to the couple of good things, maybe. Yeah. One of them was about a guy and he had a bumpy abarth. Fourth and core fell us pretty drunk and doing a lot of talking down here. Something for us? Maybe. He's ragging about beating a woman to death with a piece of pipe. 4.40 pm. We left the office and drove over to the corner of fourth and core. You know, it'd be a bar. When we walked in, there were only a few customers in the place. At the far end of the bar, a short stocky man was sitting alone.
16:22In front of him was an empty shot glass in the bottle of beer. He appeared to be pretty drunk and as we entered, he was talking to the other people seated at the bar. And if you guys don't believe it, just come outside with me. I'll show you. Show you all every one of you. By tenor, I got an empty glass. Now, let's do something about it, huh? I need a drink. Thank you. I had a button over there, don't you? Huh? I said he had enough to drink. Who are you to tell me that, huh? Oh, you would come in here and tell me what to do with Samada. You think your cops are something, huh? Is that what you think? You called it. Come on, we want to talk to you. You mean your cops? That's right. Well, listen, you better get out of here and do it fast. If you know what's good for you, you just better. Thank you. Take your hands off me. You guys don't hear good, do you? No, stand still. You come messing around with me. You're going to find out. You'll find out good. I'll give you the same thing I gave her, the same thing. Hold it, Frank. All right, come on, Mr. Well, you talking about it. I'll tell you who, I'll tell you good. And you'll know, leave me alone.
17:23If you know what's good for you, I'm talking about that eight of Fitzgerald. That's who. Eight of us. Don't mess with me and you can get what she got. I'm a pretty rough fellow, you know? Pretty rough. That's right. You bet you. You're not dealing with a kid, you know? Well, that makes it even endadiennate. You're not dealing with a woman. We took the suspect down to the homicide squadron. He identified himself as Carl Nealy. He was handcuffed to a chair and we ran his name through the record girl. He had a long string of arrests for various charges, including attempted robbery, assault, and assault with intent to do great bodily harm. He'd never been convicted on a felony, but his record show that he'd served two turns in the county jail for drunk charges and creating a public nuisance. While we were checking his record, the suspect passed out in an alcoholic stupor in the squadron. We contacted Sergeant Jack McCready and officer Danny Gullendo and asked him to make a search of the suspect's residence. In going over the place, they found a blood stain shirt and a coat. The garments were packed in a cardboard box that had been hidden under the kitchen sink.
18:24They were brought down to town, along with an empty envelope found in the apartment. It had been sent to the suspect Nealy. Now, the return address on the back indicated that the letter had been sent by the victim's husband, Oscar Fitzgerald. We waited for the suspect to come through enough force to question him. Frank went out and brought back some hot coffee. We tried to get Nealy to drink some of it. 8.40pm. That's the hot. All right, come on, try some more. Hey, cops. You've been around before. Yeah. What are my hair for? We want to talk to you about the Fitzgerald woman. Hey, then. Spop off again. She said you killed her. Vegas. Every time I get tanked up, I always killed somebody. I always failed. All right, tell us about the Fitzgerald woman. Nothing to tell. We ran about in papers. This morning I started drinking. It always happens when I've been belting the booze. I right away tell people I killed somebody.
19:25He's closed here, belong to you. I see. I don't know where to get him. How are the yours? I don't know. You got that many clothes? Hmm? I know all the clothes I got. Don't travel at all. Yeah, you don't dress as good as me. All right, come off immediately. You're in trouble. Big trouble here. You sat in the bar this morning, told everybody about how you'd beaten a woman to death. We find these clothes in your apartment. Blood stains all over. Here's another thing, this envelope. What did you get this? Through the mail, like it says. You see the stamp? You know Oscar Fitzgerald? I don't get mail from strangers, sure I know them. Is it crying to get a letter now? What was in that envelope? I don't think that's not your business. Well, we do. What kind of dealings have you got with Oscar Fitzgerald? Are you still work for him? Doing what? We took care of the place. On him and he, we're married. Sort of a general handyman. What'd you see him last? I don't know. Maybe a couple of months ago, around there, a couple of three months. What do you find so important that he wrote you about it? If he loaned me some money, he sent me a check. It was a loan, huh? Yeah. Signed any sort of note for the money? My endorsement check, it sent on. It was a loan. Well, you guys trying to prove.
20:25Anyway, you're trying to time the interlators, Kelly. We look good for it. You're off your rocker. I had nothing to do with it. Sure, you got to be for drunk, but that's all. The record makes you look good for it. Clothes we found in your apartment don't help you. You sure Oscar Fitzgerald didn't pay you to Kelly's wife? Be a lot better if he told us the truth here, Neal. I'm telling you the truth. It's right in front of you. All you got to do is open your eyes. It's there. Where the blood stains come from? They're mine. Tell us about it. I got no fight with another father. Where? A bar down seven. When? Wednesday. Last week. L.S. Wednesday. What time did you have this fight? Closing time? That'd make about two o'clock, huh? That's when the bar is closed. Where'd you go after you had the fight? After a friend's house and had a cup of more drink? Who's a friend? You don't know him. You got no records, his name. I don't want him dragged in anything. What's his name? Becky Meadows. Let me see your hands, Neal. Hmm. I think you got some pretty bad bruises there. You must have hit something pretty hard. Fight, I told you about that. So it was came from... Tell us what you did after you left the bar.
21:26I told you I went up to Jackie's. I had a couple of drinks. What time did you get there? Around three, maybe three, ten. What time did you leave? About five. Where'd you go? I don't remember two good. I was pretty boozed up. What do you think you went? Well, Jackie was worried about me being cut up from the fight. He wanted me to see a doc now. And draw me down a Georgia's street receiving hospital. Cool. I was there until 9.30, Thursday morning. You are listening to Drag-Mit, the authentic story of your police force in action. World Altitled Records. World's Feed Records. All part of Bill Bridgeman's job as a supersonic chest pilot for Douglas Aircraft. You read about Bill in Time magazine. Now let's meet one of the world's fastest humans. And Jack Willen Hazard, who's collaborating with Bill on his new book, Chest Pilot.
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23:28between the hours of 5 a.m. and 7 a.m. on that morning. We got in touch with Neely's friends, Jackie Meadows, and he also verified the suspect story. He was booked in a remains jail on a charge of being drunk in a public place, and Frank and I started checking out the remainder of the list that the stats officer given it. Originally there had been 12 names on the list. We talked to Tenham. The 11th, a Norman Sikkin had a record of burglary attempted robbery and a solver that had deadly weapon. He'd been arrested and brought to trial on a charge of murder three years previously, but he'd been acquitted. The circumstances surrounding his arrest were the same as those in the Fitzgerald case. The main reason he'd been released a free man was the testimony of his mother who had sworn that Sikkin had been home with her on the night of the killing. When we went out to his home, we found that he wasn't there. We talked to his mother and she told us that he'd been in San Diego for the past three days. Under interrogation, we established the fact that on the night of the Fitzgerald killing, Sikkin hadn't been at home, but that he had been in Los Angeles. We put in a call of the San Diego authorities and talked to Lieutenant Mark Geir in the homicide detail. We contacted the hotel where he was staying in Los Angeles on a 24-hour stakeout was placed on the location.
24:30Wednesday, April 21st, Frank and I got back from lunch. Better put in a call tomorrow, huh? I don't see if they got anything in a second. Yeah, you want to do it? All right, okay. Hi, this is Frank Smith, Robert. Yeah, I'd like to put in a call of San Diego PD homicide hero. Yeah, it was kind of Mark Geir. No, it's a homicide. Yeah, DR132-549. Yeah, that's one. That's three, two, six, eight, huh? Well, five, eight. Five. Okay, Sam, thanks. I want this one, Joe. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry, Frady. Yes, sir? No, that's right. One was that. Yes, sir, right away. I can't slight call, Frady. What do you got? Sick can just walk into his hotel.
25:33Frank and I left the office immediately and drove out to sick and so tell. We talked to the officers on stakeout and they told us that the suspect had just returned. They went on to explain that they'd given sick to no reason to suspect that anything was wrong and that he'd gone directly to his room. Frank and I got in the elevator and we went up to the fourth floor. Yeah. All right, just a minute. Yeah, what do you want? You know, I'm in second. Yeah, what do you want? Please stop it. Come on. Frank, you're gonna write to do this. Let me see your one. Get your coat sick and one, talk to you. What's four? What you got to talk to me about? I got nothing to say. Get your coat. Why, what's the charge when you take him in for a suspicion of murder? You're kidding. Well, you just keep thinking. You mean this is for real? Come on, let's go. Well, wait a minute. I want to know what this is all about. That's so. Well, sure. Figure out something to do with that woman who was beating the death downtown. Fitzgerald, I think that's the name, huh? Is that what you think? Well, you seem to know all about it. Well, you're way off on this one. I got an alibi that you can't break. I can see you guys figuring because I stood this kind of beef once before you can make a stick this time.
26:35Well, it won't work. Cop none of it fits to get like a mover. I was that night every minute. All right. That's right. Every minute. You check in my house. Happens I was with my mother just like the other time. All night I was home. You understand? Well, there isn't any other way. That's going to make a lot easier then. What test is supposed to be? We talked to your mother. She says you weren't home that night. Or she's wrong. You'll let me talk to her. She'll tell you. You just let me talk to her. She sure you weren't there. She's only the testifier there. All right, come on. I'm going to get the cuffs. Yeah. I'll still. Funny in it. What's that? Looks like he might have been good on that first chili when he was acquitted on his mother might light on the stand. That's not going to make a lot of difference is it? Huh? He's going to make up for it on this one. The story you've just heard is true. The names were changed to protect the innocent. On August 17th, trial was held in Department 97, superior court of the state of California,
27:36in and for the county of Los Angeles in a moment the results of that trial. Now here is our star, Jack Webb. Thank you. Earlier, George Phenomen told you exactly why the Chesterfield you smoked today is the best cigarette ever made and best for you. Now the rest is up to you. Get a carton or two for yourself. Smoke him and you'll say as we do, it's Chesterfields for me. Norman Edward Sipkin was tried and convicted for murder in the first degree. On recommendation of the jury, he received the maximum penalty and on July 19th, he was executed in the lethal gas chamber at the state penitentiary San Quentin, California. You have just heard, Greg, man, a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the office of Chief of Police, W.H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.
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