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3:01That's iflag.org. Okay, 71 in partly sunny. Getting up to 83 tomorrow night might get some thunderstorms, and then back down to 56 Monday to stay this weather has been crazy, but hey, we have opening day to look forward to on Thursday. This is really fun. Reds baseball. We're going to get more into that in a little bit. We're going to kick off the show, though, with something that I've been focused on lately. And as we get older, this is a topic like we should all be paying attention to. That is brain health, how to keep a healthy, happy, focused brain, and on the phone with me, Dr. Timothy Lacey, Chief Science Officer with TORC-3, Dr. Lacey, you're also a medical doctor and a neuropsychiatrist that specializes in the area of the brain, and I'm so excited to talk to you today. Thanks, and welcome to the show. Well, thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here. So I have been reading a lot about this lately, about how social media doom scrolling,

4:06in other words, dopamine overload and those short reels, the videos from Instagram and TikTok, are killing our attention span and messing with our short-term memory. And because you and I talked a little bit yesterday for the interview today, I know everything we hear, everything we think about affects our neuroplasticity. So let's start with what is neuroplasticity, and how do we take care of it, Dr. Lacey? Okay, neuroplasticity is a... Neuroplasticity, thank you. Neuroplasticity, meaning the word plasticity has to do with the things that are moldable. You can think of a warm plastic being moldable and changeable. Well, we used to think that neurons, once you were born, you had the neurons that you had and that was it, and they were setting concrete and they were not changeable. But we've learned over the past two or three decades that neurons are very changeable. And we can even develop mean neurons, it's called neurogenesis.

5:11So the brain is very plastic, very changeable. And if you think about how we live, we live in this sensory world where we're constantly being bombarded with sites, with sounds, with textures, with conversations. And the way we make sense of that is our neurons are constantly being molded by everything we experience so that if you can imagine you're hearing me right now, you don't have to imagine you're hearing me right now. You're hearing me right now, your auditory cortex is processing this information and it's making sense of what I'm telling you based on everything you've ever heard throughout your life and you're comparing it to old information, generating new information, then storing that new content in not just in the auditory cortex, which deals with sound,

6:16but throughout your brain in a series of connections, representational networks, we've called them. So it's what we experience on a day-to-day basis. We're not just changing one single thing. We change who we are as a person. So do we ever lose our neuroplasticity? Well, it diminishes over time, but there's certainly as we age, it diminishes. But one of the things I'm involved with is the work in healing, damage, the brain. So there's this myth that when someone is healing a brain for whatever reason, they reach a plateau at which plasticity is no longer possible, but what we've learned over time is that the process of neuroplasticity doesn't go away.

7:19Any more than site or sound processing goes away. So when we talked about plasticity, a little bit more about that, when I talked about the brain changing, we're talking about individual neurons, actually growing bits and pieces of the neuron, it's actually changing. If you think of a neuron, it's like a trunk with branches of a tree. The little branches are changing, they're growing, they're adding new leaves. If you can imagine that in response to what a person is going through on a day-to-day basis. So if somebody is used to driving to their job the same exact way and habits, your morning habits, you do everything the same way. Does that help to lose neuroplasticity or gain? If you take a different way to work, does that change things up?

8:22How does that work? Yes, it does by presenting challenges. One of the things we do that's very adaptive is that as we develop, starting to time with little kiddos, we develop automatic response patterns so that once you learn a certain way of doing something, you don't have to think about it anymore. It just needs to do it automatically, which is good. We should be able to do that. If we had to think about everything we did on a day-to-day basis, we would go nuts. We can't do that, so we have automatic response patterns. When we're faced with something new and challenging, it actually forces us to have to address the challenge by engaging different brain regions, especially those brain regions that are, let's say driving, but say you see something different. You have to process that site in the part of your brain that addresses visual information.

9:27If there's someone honking, you have to process that. You take in all of that information and then you have to engage the decision-making parts of your brain, which are in the frontal lobes, the front part of your brain. You have to make decisions, so you have to actively engage. Once you learn those new patterns, you can store them by making these brain changes. And by the way, not just structural brain changes, but actually functional brain changes by doing what is commonly thought of as rewiring the brain. We're actually not changing wires, but we're reconfiguring. Like things firing up, like lighting up, I can see lighting up in your brain, firing in a different way. Yeah, absolutely, Donna, that's exactly right. You can think of, think of those lights going on differently than they were before, maybe turning on some different bulbs in your screen of Christmas tree lights.

10:30We're talking to Dr. Timothy Lacey, MD, neuropsychiatrist, and brain specialist. So I wanted to ask you about our cell phones and wireless headphones. Are they bad for our brain? Because we're starting to hear that as well. What are your thoughts on this? Well, yeah, I think that's a big deal. They're unhelpful. Okay. And there's more and more data emerging about the negative impact of them in terms of leading to despair, loneliness, depression. When we start doing scrolling, getting focused in social media, we tend to focus on those things that either excite us or that activate, if you can think of the very deep structures, the fight or flight mechanisms, the parts of the brain that detect danger, and we focus on these very negative things,

11:32or things that are stimulating, and that becomes our whole world. And we know that the world doesn't work that way. Yeah, I watched Dr. Lacey. I watched a video of a brain surgeon. He was a brain surgeon, and he was also a psychiatrist. And so he was very involved with the inner workings of the brain. And he said the number one thing we should learn, the biggest thing to know as a human, to really get good at, is becoming emotional intelligent and emotionally aware. And I love this topic. Can you talk a little bit about what is your definition of emotional intelligence, and how can we learn with parts of our brain to become better at this? Well, the parts of the brain that generally have a greater impact on emotional processing are the right hemisphere of our brain, and then deeper structures known as limbic structures,

12:35people may have heard of the limbic system, as well as other structures like the amygdala and other brain parts people may have heard of. Well, in order to be emotionally connected to someone, these parts of the brain need to be functioning in integrated synchronous way. And you have to be able to process what's going on with other people at an emotional level. And if you're not fully integrated yourself as a person, it makes it very difficult to tune in to what other people are experiencing, either by their body language or by the words they use. But actually, more their body language, we communicate more with our tone of voice, with our movement, with how we change our body positions and so on. We communicate a lot more that way than we do with the words that we speak. Yeah, I read recently that communication is 7% talking and the rest is energy.

13:41I mean, you just give off a level of energy. But with emotional intelligence, it is how you understand what you're feeling on the inside, like, and then how do you manage it? So I always tell my yoga students to, when you're in traffic, when you're in traffic is a great, it's a great, you know, idea to pay attention to how you're feeling. You're stuck in traffic and you can feel your emotions rise. I call it big way surfing. And if you understand what's happening in your body, the emotional intelligence, you'll be able to manage that and just be able to breathe through it. And same thing when you're in kind of an argument with somebody that you love, you get that surge of emotion. And if you understand how to be able to control that,

14:42then you can pretty much go anywhere in life and be okay. That's what I mean about emotional intelligence. And do you agree with that? Oh, yeah, absolutely. You have to be able to engage. We talked about the frontal lobes yesterday though, to be able to engage that and for lack of a better way of saying it, to rise above the emotional noise that might cloud your judgment. And so the ability to be present consciously where you are allows you to then be aware of those emotions that wave that you're talking about, writing that wave. You'd like to be able to surf the wave rather than have it crashed down on your head. That's right. And you end up flailing in the water. Maybe sometimes doing things you later regret. As you're swinging your arms trying to stay afloat and end up hitting someone in the head.

15:47How much of our emotional patterns are hardwired versus changeable, would you say? Well, this is, we have to start thinking, we have to think, first of all, about hearing development as a child, as a child, we know we learn how to navigate in the world by using our sight, sound, touch, and our emotional systems. Our emotional system is much more mature when we're born than our other functions. And we start learning our emotional patterns from the time we're in the crib. So for example, if you take a little baby in the crib who's crying is hungry and his little belly is hurting and the mother or caregiver or father

16:50come into the room and pick up a little baby and nurture it and hug it and comfort it. Well, that baby learns right away that when life is difficult, when life belly hurts, it's going to be okay. So that establishes a sense of safety and security when caregivers do that sort of thing. On the other hand, let's take that sane infant, crying, it's tummy hurts, it's scared, the room is dark, and nobody comes. Well, that's going to create a very different set of expectations. Now these expectations and experiences don't have words attached to them. These things happen before the child learns any sort of sounds or words other than the basic twos and sounds like that. So we start forming our way of making sense of the world emotionally

17:52from the time we're a little bitty and we start developing our emotional patterns and our little personalities start to form. Do we become engaged with the world? Are we excited about the world? Are we afraid of the world? Do we think the world is a dangerous place? And only when we start developing words, can we start creating a verbal narrative to make sense of all of that? You're born with a personality, but then we start hardwiring for protection. Yes. Okay, you're going to stay with me for one more break because I want to talk about how critical sleep is for a healthy brain, also exercise and nutrition. We're going to talk more about that. Dr. Lacey, so stay with me for one more break. Also, I know you work without Bounders ARS. It's a new facility in Cincinnati that supports stroke victims. So we're going to get into that in just a minute. We'll be back right after this break news weather traffic with

18:55Brady Hopkins. It's done a D on 700 WLW Cincinnati. But he's enjoying this beautiful spring day producing the show Drew Wester Hyde 71 in partly sunny today. A high of 80 tomorrow. We will get some thunderstorms of late in the day tomorrow. You know, I open my deck. I get one or two days. And then I it rains. I have to cover everything back up. I hate to complain. And in fact, a question I wanted to ask you last break, Dr. Timothy Lacey MD, neuropsychiatrist and brain specialist. Thanks for sticking around for one more break with me. I still have so many questions for you, Dr. Lacey. Well, let's see what we can do. Okay, so what happens to the brain if you are a constant complainer, right? You just mentioned earlier, everything we hear, everything we say affects the brain. Well, what if you're married to a complainer or worse yourself? You are a chronic

19:57complainer. What does that do? Well, let's let's take responsibility for our own complaining first. You know, but what happens is every time we say something, we're generating a series of thoughts and emotions that accompany that and that involves exciting a whole series of neurons that are spread throughout the brain in these circuits. And if they're negative, what we're doing every time we do something like that, we're reinforcing the negative circuits. So for example, if I'm frustrated with you about the way you load the dishwasher and I look at that and you're putting the dishes on the wrong rack and it's making me crazy. Well, if I just focus on that over and over, that's going to generate a negative view of you. It's going to make my complaining

21:02worse and I'm reinforcing that negative view of you, which is generally, you know, unhelpful in a relationship. Right. And likewise, if I'm on the receiving end of that complaining, that's going to reinforce my concept as accurate or as inaccurate as it may be that you're just a complainer and then I'll have a whole series of representational connections to that that have to do with you being a complaining, ungrateful, unhelpful person and the whole narrative story that I spin around around those emotions. So, so, so let me just get this. I'm hearing you right. If you complain all the time and really we talked about energy earlier and how that affects you, not just the communication because you can talk to somebody who is saying nice things to you, but has a weird energy and you just go, I just get a weird vibe from that person. But if you're

22:05a constant complainer or you're with someone that they can't do anything right, it's going to, it's going to fire up the parts of your brain that's going to look for more things to complain about. Is that accurate? Yeah, that's accurate. You can you can think of this in terms of a bias. So, if we're conceptualizing someone as a potential threat and then constantly complaining or something along those lines, we could conceptualize as a symbolic threat. Well, the parts of our brain that have to do with detecting threat of the very, very deep brain structures in the most in the deepest recesses of our of our brain are going to be firing up looking for threat, looking for danger. And we may ignore the five things that are good in front of us and hone in on the negative thing because that's the one that's important for survival. In order to survive,

23:10we need to constantly be aware of danger and threat. And so if we're biased toward looking for that from a given person, from a boss, from a partner or from a person, then that's what we're going to notice because that's what's most important to notice for survival. Wow, that's interesting. So let's get to some of the good stuff because I want to talk about outbounders and that kind of stuff. But I want to in terms of brain health, how critical is a good night's sleep and how many hours should we officially get? Like what what should we go for? Well, we should go for seven to eight hours. Now there are people who can function just fine on five hours or at least they tell them themselves that. But you know, there are people that function well on less. But roughly speaking, seven to eight hours is optimal. Some people need a little more. Some people need nine. So it's quite variable, but that's that's the the median. And we need very deep sleep.

24:16It takes a while to get into the deepest state of sleep. We need what's called deep wave sleep. And it's in that state where we restore neurotransmitters. We replenish them where neurons have a chance to rewire and consolidate information from the day. And if you don't get into those deep stages of sleep, you're going to be deprived to such an extent that we know that if people have say sleep out near where they are constantly deprived of sleep, they have a decreased lifespan. So it's incredibly important. Okay. And so the big the top three that everybody talks about how important it is. So sleep, nutrition, exercise, are they all equally important? Yeah, I think so. I think they are. I'd emphasize sleep and exercise a little bit more than nutrition, except to accept to say that if you ate a diet of ultra processed foods, you're

25:24really not going to do well. But if you eat something like a Mediterranean diet or some sort of diet that's full of antioxidants and healthy fats, the next essential exercise is incredibly important. We need to not only exercise our body, but exercise our brains and the the increased oxygen level that is generated by aerobic activity is important for brain health. And we know that if people have a regular study exercise routine, the incidence of depression is much less and cognitive performance is better. Well, and I just read too that if you don't work out your body and physically get yourself tired, your brain just goes 90 miles an hour. You literally have to in order to quiet your mind, you need to work out to be able to exhaust yourself. One more question. My mom was pretty, she was pretty sharp as a tack really till the very end

26:30of when she passed away and she used to play, you know, back amin and chest and bridge and board games and crossword puzzles. Are those important to keep your brain healthy and intact? Absolutely. We know that cognitive challenges force us to engage various brain regions in order to solve the problem. If they're memory games, we have to pull that from distant memories, but we also have to engage what's called the working memory and recent memory in order to solve those types of puzzles and challenges. And part of the key there is that it forces us to have to do that and unlike social media and do in scrolling, which do not require that engaging in more active cognitive activities forces us to engage the brain in an active way.

27:34So I want to talk about so there's a brand new facility that you are a part of that started here in Cincinnati. I know there are more locations in the country, but it started right here in Cincinnati and it's doing some pretty amazing things with VR virtual reality to help support stroke victims. Obviously, and we can, you can probably give me a better definition, but as I understand it, stroke, which just means lack of blood to the brain, talk about outbounders ARS. What exactly is it? Well, the outbounder ARS in the ARS dance for advanced rehabilitation system is a novel system that can do some things that other systems can't do. And it has to do with maximizing neuroplasticity as well by exercising not only the body but the brain. And we know that most rehab activities involve repetitive muscle movement in order to regain strength and flexibility

28:41and function. And those are essential activities, but they do get boring. They can get tedious and as a result, people quit doing them and they quit participating in rehabilitation. Well, I'd like to tell you a little bit about the ARS. It's hard to conceptualize it without actually seeing it. So let me paint a little picture. Imagine you're on a recumbent bike, which most of us are familiar with. And you're peddling away on the recumbent bike and it gets pyrrism. And let's say one of your legs is weaker than the other one. You start peddling in a way that's unbalanced. Let's say the left leg is weaker than the right leg will push hard, the left leg kind of flocks around and you're not really being forced to exercise that weak leg. Well, now let's say you want to get more engaged and you have a flat screen in front of the exercise bike that encourages

29:45you to pedal faster and pedal harder and maybe gives presents to your pleasant scenery. All of which can decrease the sense of boredom and increase your activity, but it doesn't really present anything novel. Now, if we take that a step further, let's say the recumbent bike is on a moving platform and whenever you steer to the left, the bike steers to the left, it steers to the right and you are in control of the movement. Well, that's one step above. And now, if you imagine being placed in a virtual world by wearing a virtual reality headset that gives you visual stimulation in 360 degrees and up and down and you're wearing headphones, which gives you auditory input that's completely synchronized with the visual input. And let's say you're on this

30:45this bike platform that's on a movement platform and now you've become immersed in this virtual world and you've become what's known as an avatar. So now you can navigate through this world and that's what we've developed with the Outbound ARF, a system in which it's robotically assisted in computer controlled, but which the patient or the writer we sometimes like to call them is in complete control of what happens as one bicycles down various trails, encounters, challenges or tasks. The writer has to determine how fast they pedal, when to turn to the left or to the right, when presented with various challenges, when to break, when to try to steer and pedal faster. And all of this creates an environment in which not only does one have to exercise the

31:49impaired muscles, but to simultaneously engage all of the parts of the brain that are involved with sight, with sound, with movement, with balance. And then the motor systems that involve moving the various parts of the arms and legs that are important for steering through this environment and speeding up and going down. And then importantly, the frontal lobes have to be engaged in order to make decisions. When do I turn left? When do I look to the right? What do I feel over there? And how does that impact what I do? And all of this foster is increased neuroplasticity, so that I learn to to move my arms and legs in a more functional way that's associated with how I function as a whole human being, rather than just exercising an isolated

32:50motor movement, moving my arm, moving my leg. How long is a session on the virtual reality, say, by how long is that an hour? Yeah, believe it or not, we have people who are impaired, who come in with any pleija or any pleases for the weak side. And maybe even somewhat cognitively impaired, they will get on our system and they will participate in it for an hour. Sometimes less, but you know, so it depends on the person. Yeah, okay, we just I'm so sorry, Dr. Lacey, we have just 30 seconds. How can somebody get a hold of outbounders? Do we have a website? Yes, ma'am, the easiest way is to Google outbounder, ARS, Cincinnati, and that will take you right towards that. Okay, awesome. Thank you, Dr. Timothy Lacey, MD, neuropsychiatrist, and brain specialist. Pretty amazing stuff because I'll tell you,

33:51you know, if you if you need to retrain your brain after, you know, a stroke or something, we have the ability to do that. Thank you so much for being here. When we come back, traveling by plane, it's challenging right now. The partial shutdown of the government, which includes TSA agents who are not getting paid right now, calling in sick, whew, to blame here. We're going to talk about that and how do we fix it. I am Dona D and you are listening to 700 WLW Cincinnati. Looking for excitement? Jamba Casino is here. Play anytime, play anywhere. Play on the train, play at the store, play at home, play with your board. Play today for your chance to win, and get daily bonuses when you log in. So what are you waiting for? Don't delay? Jamba Casino is free to play. Experience social gameplay like never before. Go to Jamba Casino right now to play hundreds of games, including online slots. Bingo, Slingo, and more. Live The Chumble Life at JambaCasino.com Imagine if your Wi-Fi was a little hot, smarter,

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38:07which also includes the DSA agents who are not getting paid right now. So many of them are calling in sick and you can definitely tell. I mean, the major airports are really, really bad like Atlanta, LA, New York, Dallas, and so on. I just went from CBG to Salt Lake City to Sacramento. My flight was delayed three hours. We had co-workers coming in from Iowa that couldn't get a flight so they couldn't even make it to our team meeting and things like that. But you know, many flights delayed, cancelled, long lines. Who do we blame for this, right? 513-749-7000-1800 the big one? Is it the TSA agents that are calling in sick? Should they still make it to work even though they're not getting paid? Is it our politicians that don't seem to be able to work together? We're so divided and it doesn't look like this is going to be fixed anytime soon. So is this okay

39:10with us? Is it our president who is responsible for setting the tone for the country? Or should we blame the American people for accepting this type of behavior from our elected officials? There's 360 million of us. Should we be demanding? In what we want, how we're taking care of, I just saw somebody on a plane going to Florida. They're on the tarmac. Can you imagine sitting on a plane for eight to ten hours just sitting there? I mean, maybe we do with this airline pilot suggests we do play the clip. I don't really care what your political persuasion is, but you should really call your senator. Because I'll tell you, this is costing the airlines millions of dollars. I just think of 30 airplanes with one engine running and it's going to take us a least 90 minutes to take off. So it's frustrating. It's really frustrating for me. Because right now it's going to cost about two hours of our lives on the ground before we even take

40:15off, spend all that gas, all that money, and it just rolls into the rest of this system. So right now, we're at a 4% reduction in flight capacity. Next week we go to Sam. Last night I had a six-hour delay in Houston and the weather was perfect. It's because the air traffic controllers aren't paid. So the air traffic controllers are not getting paid and we're wasting gas, time, money, everything. The airline pilots are frustrated. The flight attendants are frustrated. The people flying are frustrated. 513-749-7000. I want you to weigh in here. What do we do about this? What about our politicians that we cannot get them to work together? What do we do about the rising gas prices? In fact, the rising prices on everything. What do we do about health care?

41:15What are your thoughts on holding our politicians accountable? And how do we do it? Let's get to Kirk from Madisonville. Kirk, what are your thoughts on this? Hey, Donna. Hi. So this is strictly the Democrats shutting their thing down, trying to raise a wave on their 40s. I mean, it's just ridiculous. Tell me why. Why do you think it's the Democrats fault? Because they don't want to agree to the voter ID? I don't want to agree to the voter ID. They don't want to agree to state laws on only citizens at the voting. I mean, you know, they're more concerned about the illegals in this country than they are the actual American people. And if they have to make the money, people suffer and to get what they want, then they are willing to do this in this discussion. Okay. So let me ask you this, Kurt, if you're saying it's all about the Democrats and because

42:16the Democrats are blaming the Republicans, the Republicans are blaming the Democrats. How do we come together to be able to fix this? In terms of the voter registration and having a show ID and things like that, it's never been in this country and there aren't any real reasons to show at least nobody has shown that there is voter fraud on a widespread. So they're causing a problem where there isn't one. That's the argument from the Democrats. That's the argument, but then again, they're not looking for neither. It's pay attention with the names every day. There's four more cases that are coming to life. Kurt, I really appreciate you weighing in here. I want you to call in 513-749-7100, the big one. What do we do about this? Because there's 350-360 million Americans and our government doesn't seem to be working on the issues that we really need. TSA and being able to fly

43:21and gas prices and every kind of price up there are important things to the American people and we've got to be able to work together to solve the problem. Kurt, I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. You too. Hey, Brian, let's get to Brian from Eastgate. Brian, what are your thoughts on this? I'm not going to lie to you because I deserve this. I don't know if you mean the other way, but we voted Trump in as a president. He's trying to do the thing he said that he's going to do when he was campaigning. I mean, he said he want to get rid of immigrants and I'm all for that. Every single one of them. I don't care. How are they going to do it? I mean, they really don't have any rights here. They're here illegally. Get them out and re-border some how they got to do it. Do it, you know? It doesn't matter. And the Democrats just want to create any time Trump wants to do anything. The Democrats are going to block it. And for whatever reason, they're done even matters. They're just going to do it because that's what we are in this country now. They're

44:22going to do things whether it hurts the American people or not. I don't think Trump does anything. They hurt the American people. I think he's got everything he does. He tries to just either build confidence in elections. I don't see any problem with showing an ID. I show my ID all the time. You know, all the time. You mean for voting? Showing your ID or something? Anything. I just put money on my demo court and show my ID. I mean, it's a silly thing. So, why is it one of the most important things that we do vote? I understand he said, well, they didn't show any proof of voter fraud. Trump won a 2020 election. It was so obvious. But I'm not going to get into that. That's my feelings. I'll never be able to have anybody change my mind on that. And they're all going to like to do it later. But Brian, so what I'm so instead of like, let's let's forget about blame. And how do we fix it? You think Democrats just need to sign this bill? Yeah, we just need to wipe them off the kick them out of Congress. They look,

45:23you guys are trying to do anything helpful. You're just trying to hurt everybody. And they're not from the bottom line. I feel like that. I feel like that. Well, I'm just reading. Again, Brian, I'm just reading Fox News special counsel. Robert Mueller is just passed away at the age of 81. I'm seeing breaking news right now. Former special counsel, Robert Mueller has died at the age of 81. Wow. Just seeing that. Brian, I hate it to interrupt you on that. But I understand. Listen, you and I may be more aligned than you think. I know you're saying I lean the other way. I lean for what what is good for America? I lean for what what we can do to help people and support people in being able to because I fly a lot. I have another job and I fly a lot. Getting on planes and being able to get there on time and not having gas prices that's going to raise up costs of groceries, pet food. You name it. Everything is more and more expensive. I know Trump ran on that. It's not happening. He, he ran unknown. I know you mentioned

46:28quite a few things on what Trump did run on. Immigration is one we all agreed on. He ran no, no new wars. How do you feel about the Iran war? You know what? I don't know how I feel on that because I don't really know. Every day I get more confused about things. At one point, I think Israel is like an ally and they're, you know, we're about good people. Then I hear they're really trying to take it to the war. You know, I'm, there's a, I can't remember his name. He's the next military guy and he, and he gets on there and that's saying that the Holocaust was blindly never happened. That few days, that doc in 1934, Judea gathered all the Jews that were going to take out Germany and Hitler basically saved Germany from, you know, it was almost like it was a war basically and he, and that's why all the Jewish people that he held captive. That's the reason behind that. And I don't know what to believe anymore. I know there's so much conspiracy stuff that it is extremely confusing. But if somebody is saying the Holocaust didn't

47:32exist, that's weird, Brian. We know it. Hey, I'm Tom Chowny. I hear more and more all the time. I know. I know. I'm saying that, that, you know, what we give Israel $18 billion a year for what? You know, they live better than we do while we give them money. Right. And you know, when they have, how many people live in Israel, Brian? What's the population of Israel? Nine million, right? How many in this country? I don't know. 365 million. We need money, man. We need for like the dude. We need money. And I'm tired of that, too. I'm tired of giving every other country. I mean, I think we give it to everybody. But we drive around Cincinnati. I get so mad, and cobbled daily. See, Brian, we agree on more than you think you do. Listen, thank you so much for the call. Have a great weekend, great opening day as well. So Tim, Chris and Diane, we're going

48:33to get to you too. What are your thoughts on this? 513-7497-1800? The big one. What do we do here? Right. If you're somebody that flies on a plane, this is just one thing that affects me a lot. I fly usually twice a month. It's delays. It's cancellations. The airlines are doing their best. And I just played from a very frustrated pilot that they're sitting on the tarmac for two hours with an engine running, which is very expensive on gas and very, very time consuming on these pilots and flight attendants and the people that are flying for work and things like that. What do we do? How do we get these politicians to stop arguing, stop fighting and working for the American people? Tim, Kenwood, what are your thoughts on this? Hey, I'm right there with the last caller. I think what we really need to do is cut ties with Israel, honestly. That's what I believe. I believe APAC is way too strong. They spend about $100

49:33million on lobbies and on our government on both sides of the aisle and we give them $19 billion a year. That's the best return on investment I've ever heard of in my life. Yeah. So I don't appreciate how they treat our military like it's a part of their arm. They want us to just eradicate their neighbors and it costs lives and it costs money and we've been doing it and trust anyone that I do it but he did it and we're still there and I just I don't like the ties with Israel one bit. I want America to be owned by America. I want our banks and our money to be owned by Americans and they're not and you know I think it's a time to come stand up for America when Israel's way too ingrained. I'm in the DNA of our world. I think we're just starting to figure out just how deep APAC is with our politicians. I know I'm because of the Iran war and it was led by Israel. That's what many people suggested and have suggested and continue to suggest and they have to say old story. I have to understand weapons

50:36and mass destruction. Right. Right. All these different things. I don't like being led around by a news where they don't they don't seem to start the problem. They want us to finish it. I mean we're given $19 billion to a country that's as big as you know what New Jersey. Yes. That's right. And on top of which how much is the Iran war costing per day? I think it's 1.1 billion. It's a lot for nothing. What do we have? The fear you have that issue here yet we're paying for their that's over there. We're paying for their schools. We invest in their kids when they have the first yet over here we have a giant campaign funded by Israel to abort a bunch of kids here. So it's I don't know. I don't like it. Well Tim I really appreciate the call and I think a lot of people are kind of aligning by what you're just saying on Israel. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. Yeah. Absolutely. Hey Chris let's go to Chris real quick and Williams for Chris and Robin will get to you hopefully before the break. Chris what are your thoughts on this?

51:37Well first of all I'm not sure why everybody's talking about Israel. I thought we were talking about trying to solve the problems of what's going on here with the Democrats and Republicans battling back and forth and seems like a separate issue to me. Yeah what do you think? Yeah what do you think? How do how do we get together to fix the problems for us for the American people? The streets, the roads, the bridges, the the the the the airlines right now gas prices health care you name it. Well obviously we need to get back to common sense but I don't know how to get us there. You know I think all of your callers have pretty much been agreed across the board that you know allowing illegals to come in which is what the Democrats want and almost blatantly and openly is not what the rest of us want you know so that can't go on and the transgenderism and you know allowing children to be maimed and don down the list. I just think what was common

52:41since 20 years ago is what they push for and it's ridiculous but how to change it if somebody had a solution I guess we would know what it was. I mean we need term limits we need to get new clear. Term limits absolutely totally agree term limits because that way that these politicians are not career politicians and they don't give in to the lobbyists and they start doing things. If everyone had four to eight years I think that they would do more for the American people and not worry about getting reelected constantly. Chris thanks so much we are up against the wall we've just got about 30 seconds I appreciate it. Rob and Dick Moore on this we're going to come back. Also have you seen the new documentary on Netflix called Inside the Manosphere? We're going to talk about that and taking a few more calls. What do we do about all this stuff that's going on TSA? It's going to get worse before it gets better if you're flying on spring break you're going anywhere in this country it's going to be tough to catch your plane to get to the long lines so we're

53:47going to be back right after news whether in traffic with Brady Hopkins I am down a D producing the show Drew. Wester Heidi on 700 WLW Cincinnati. Another girl but I don't know it's just pathetic to let it keep me involved in that he said she said proud I know that ain't no body perfect I get props as old to deserve it and believe on you. This is America. A lot of people get their kicks talking trash about America. That just goes to show how ignorant they are. Someone needs to sit their butts down and give them a good solid dose of Bill Cunningham. Willie will teach them how lucky they are to be American. Do they really think it's better in Russia? Hell no. Better in Haiti? No one wants to be in Haiti. Better in Canada? I don't want Poutine. I want Bill Cunningham. He's a great American. This is America. Bill Cunningham. Monday at 12 noon on 700 WLW. Ryan Reynolds here from Mid-Mobile. I don't know if he knew this but

54:47in sunny high of 71 thunderstorms tomorrow high of 81 I believe and then back in the 50s Mondays and Tuesday. Before we get into this crazy documentary and Netflix called Into the Manosphere. Let's take a few more calls because Robin and Michael you've been holding on for so long. We're talking about the challenges we face in this country. Airline travel is not fun right now. I just got back from a business trip to Sacramento for planes, two different airports, long lines, delayed flights, canceled flights. Who's to blame here? Is it the TSA agents that are calling in sick because they're not getting paid? Is it our politicians? How do we solve the divide with the R's blaming these and the D's blaming the R's? How do we get through this in order to support us, the American people who are working so hard and just trying to get around with flying

55:55in this country and otherwise driving flying. We talked about roads. We talked about everything costing so much. Robin from Hamilton Township, what are your thoughts on this? Hey, Donna. I know you travel around for work and the TSA is working without money. I just wonder would you travel around if you were getting paid and I think that people that don't need to go anywhere shouldn't even be flying. Business is different but I think that would make a big difference and I've been listening a while and I think that people that don't understand what's happening need to view the video that was taken on October 7th when Iran came into a peaceful event in Israel and did horrific, unbelievable things to the human beings there and I think that as

57:01a society we need to respect and understand what's happening and people don't have to go on spring break. They can stay home and play monopoly and let this thing resolve because the Democrats are not going to do it and Trump is trying to save America. I truly believe that. Well, Robin, first of all, to answer that. Yeah, to answer the question around like you are if you weren't going to get paid. Probably not. Probably not. We could give them a break if we didn't have to go anywhere and I'm not saying you don't have to go anywhere because you're going somewhere, you need a plane and you're getting paid but those TSA agents that are showing up are not getting paid. No, I know, but what happened is no, I know and what happened is last time and you're right. That's a good question. Would I show up for work? Probably not, but they did get a big bonus after the last government

58:05shutdown. I mean, we all have to this is so stressful for all of us, right? Do we need to be in another war in the middle east, Robin? I mean, is this something? I know that Iran is horrible. I we don't want. I suggest that we don't want what to happen, what happened in Israel to happen on our homeland in our homes and our communities. It is unbelievable. If you haven't viewed that, anybody that hasn't viewed that needs to see what happened. No, and I know is we always able to watch that without losing your mind. I'm sure. Robin, thank you so much for the call. And believe me, listen, there's bad players in a lot in this country and also in the world, Israel has done some terrible things around his sense. The middle east is just it's just kind of a mess. And why are we there again? I mean, we should learn the lessons from Iraq. We've been through this

59:06before. Let's get to Michael who's been holding on for a while in Eastgate. Michael, what are your thoughts here? What do we do about all this? Hi, first time caller here. I appreciate you taking that. Excellent. Thank you. As far as getting DHS opened up, I think, you know, both sides need to negotiate. It seems to me from what I've heard Republicans have come to the table to negotiate some of these issues with ICE and their structure and their practices. However, the number one issue is the sanctuary cities. If they Republicans come and say eliminate the sanctuary cities, then we will allow all the ICE agents to have proper identification, be unmasked and all the things that they're fighting for. And we won't have any of these issues. There won't be fights out on the street. There won't be protests because 90% of the removals are going to come right from the

1:00:08detention centers. And no one's going to see anything just like has gone on for the last 20 years. Well, Michael, listen, I appreciate, I appreciate your call and that your first time caller, and please continue to call in. The idea of compromise is a lovely thing, right, to get DHS open. Like we're flying. We need, we need our, our, our air traffic controllers. We, we, we have to have these people in order to continue to make the world go around. If there's voter ID issues, that the Dems are saying it's the Republicans fault. Republicans are saying the Dem, it's the Dems fault. How do we get there? How do we, I don't think, I don't think the SAVE Act really has anything to do with the Department of Homeland Security shutdown. I think there are two separate issues. I think obviously the SAVE Act, you know, is common sense that people need to use a,

1:01:09a driver's license to vote. This is not, you know, crazy, you know, right wing conservative idealism. This is common sense. But as far as the DHS, that's the one that's really more pressing, I think. And, you know, the ICE agents and things like that. Yeah, for the, the, there's a, there's a, a handful of things in this bill that neither the Republicans are saying you have to sign this, or the government is going to continue to be shut down. That's what they're saying. It's ice, it's funding ICE, ICE agents and things like that. Not wearing masks. There's quite a few things in there. Plus T, T, you know, TSA. Right. But I think the SAVE Act is kind of a separate issue. But yes, they need a negotiate. It's really a sad state of affairs when we have elected politicians making several hundreds of thousands of dollars and they can't sit together in a room like adults

1:02:11and work some of these very common ideas out. And, you know, it's sad. I've never been through this and I don't think any of us have been through quite the dissent in politics that we're going through right now. What do you think about term limits? Because this, the last color brought that up. Wouldn't a lot of this be taken care of if somebody, if you couldn't have these long 30 year terms for, for senators and congressmen that they, that they, they really trying, I think most people get into politics to do good. And then they get in there and they get lobbied by so many people and they, they have to fundraise constantly. And they're always, they're always, you know, trying to get reelected constantly. Do you think term limits would solve some of this? I do. And I think some glaring examples of that would be Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Steinstein, she, Diane fine. Any anybody that's been over there for so long. That's right.

1:03:19I couldn't agree more. Michael, thank you so much. Please call again. We'll do. Thank you for having me. We're going to get to one last caller on this. Susan from Covington, you've been waiting a little bit. What are your thoughts on this? And then I'm going to move on. Well, my thoughts are we have a constitution that is the foundation of our country. And I think that the legislative branch was set up with two parties for them to work problems out. So that's their job. That is their job. Are they doing a good job, Susan? No, because I, I'm thinking back, we've been faced with threats of government shutdown for the last 20 years. Yes. Yes. And I have been saying the last 40 years, we have been going through a constant downsizing or mental going downward instead of moving forward. Yeah. I agree. We've been down beyond belief. I couldn't agree more. And you know, we, we, here's what they do,

1:04:23right? Politicians, they get us heated, right? From culture wars, like, you know, transgender sports. I'm not for that either. I think I think that that's silly, but it's such a minute. Such a minute issue that, you know, when you fly on an airplane, you want to get there and not be canceled twice and not be delayed for eight hours on the tarmac and not have, you know, gas prices going up and everything. Those are the things really we all care about. And if they can't work things out, we need to, we need to fire these politicians that can't work together. We really do. We need to hold them accountable. I'm getting all fired up, Susan. I'm getting all fired up. I said that for the last several months is we need to just really not really let any of them start new. And I'm going to start. I'm a registered Democrat. I don't think I've ever voted until the last

1:05:2315 years, a straight democratic ticket. And I said, there would be a cold day. You know where before for Thomas Massey and Rand Paul. But I'm telling you right now, I am going to vote for Thomas Massey. They're moderates now that they seem moderate. They seem moderate compared to, you know, other ones in the democratic party as well, Democrats and Republicans. It's the far right, right, right, and the far left, left, left. They're both the same thing. I mean, I think most of us want to meet in the middle here. Right. And there's the products of the dumbing down that we've gone through the last 40 years. My father and three uncles fought in World War II. My father was with one of the units that liberated Decal prison. And when he also, the group that went into Berlin, said they're one that damn German to be seen or not see to be seen anywhere. But they went

1:06:26through and did switch of the apartments of the German officers. And he brought home four photographs or three little photographs at the time of trenches pulled bodies land next to each other. So you can't tell me there was no holocaust. Yeah. I know. So that was that was from a previous caller that said that yeah, that was concerned that maybe because people are starting to say there was no holocaust and there was. I mean, you know, let's not get to their part. Yeah. They're part of the group that's been down to the last 20 years. Susan, listen, I appreciate the call. Please call me back again. I love your attitude. I really do. Thank you so much. All right. I'm going to move on because I want to talk about this documentary I saw on Netflix. It's Louis Thoreau inside the manosphere. So just to give you just to give you a highlight of it, it's kind of crazy. And I would love your thoughts. If you've seen this documentary 51374971800, I really do want to hear

1:07:33if you've seen it, what do you think about it? But in a nutshell, there's a group of men online basically preaching toxic toxic masculinity. That's what they're calling it or another way to say it was pretty heavy and misogyny. They kind of dictate these group of men. What where why how in their relationships, they feel like they can have multiple wives and women and their women should be faithful to them. It was interesting because they, you know, they talk about family values and stuff like that, but they're all taking videos with women and G-strings and things like that. Louis Thoreau, who's a British reporter, basically asked them simple questions and, you know, they felt like this was going to be a hit piece or, you know, his questions were something like, you know, can you be a little bit more moral? Let's play the clip, Drew and talk after the clip.

1:08:41Woman that I'm with, she doesn't talk to me, so. I do want to get them multiple wives, but right now I'm just like focusing on like building things up. What would they do with? tattoo your name on them. Probably because I saw it on my wife. Studies show that women absorb and retain the DNA of every man they've been with, be a spur. This foreign DNA has been found in it. How much you worth would you say? The last time I checked, it was well over 30. 30 million. Yeah. Okay, so that was kind of a hard clip to hear, but I basically these guys are have a group of young boys that pay attention to everything they do, and they're pretty hard on women. Like, you should be quiet, you should stay home, you should clean. I'm allowed to do what I want, and those are the rules, and I can have as many women as I want. All I have to do is make money

1:09:46and take care of you. Do they really want this? Is this what men really want versus having a real relationship? Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one. For instance, when men pay for everything, right? Because it's not just men here. I'm just using this as an example, the inside the manosphere, which is a crazy documentary. But when men pay for everything, and the woman has a job, and she can pay for stuff too, when they pay the bills, and they pay for the dinners, and they pay for the trips. I mean, I have a very good friend who does this. He pays for everything, and you know what? He resents it. He's told me that he has resents it for having to pay for everything, but he does. He does it. Why do they do that? It's not going to be a good relationship if it's not an equal partnership. I mean, it balances out,

1:10:49sometimes I pay, sometimes my partner pays, right? I mean, I also like a man to be a man. I like for them to open the car door. I like for them to open the door. I like for them to pay for the first date or things like that when we go out. But the toxic masculinity or the inside the manosphere of being the boss and having someone basically not talk back to you, not say anything, not have an opinion, that doesn't work out. 513-749-71800, the big one, we're going to take your calls coming back right after this. And what is one of the greatest sources of healing inside and out? We're going to get into that exercise when we get back. It's done indeed. 700 WLW Cincinnati. We're going to get into that exercise when we get back. We're going to get into that exercise when we get back. We're going to get into that exercise when we get back.

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1:16:00I don't know if you've watched it on Netflix, but they are adapting to this broad base, appealing to this broad base of young boys around 13 years old that, you know, watch their online shows. And they talk to and about women pretty horrifying. What are your thoughts on this, Tony? And have you watched the new documentary? I have not been able to watch it, but there is these young men need to look into not what they hear, but what's out there for their brains. Now, there's another reason why I'm called and don't idea is so glad that you took my call. You recognize my voice. Tony, I do not, but tell me what's that?

1:17:03Did you take care of your leave? Oh, my leaves, my, my leaves on my left. Yes, I do, Tony. Yes, I do. I do. I do take care of my leaves now. In fact, that's why Sterling's not here. I thank you for a long time. Nick, I'm going to go to where you was asking a question about a man. Do they buy multiple women? Yes. For 46 years to the same woman. And I would only want one woman. Yeah, good. That's great. I love it. We have the cars here, have a knee. Don't let me hear it except you. Tony, I appreciate it. You always make me laugh when you call it. I really appreciate it. Let's go to Matt and Cincinnati. Matt, how do you feel about this? What is this manosphere thing? What is this toxic masculinity? Is it going to go well for these guys? Right?

1:18:03Right. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, no, awesome. Yeah, so look, I haven't seen the series yet. I'm 31. And I just kind of want to say I'm one of your more traditional conservative guys. But I think that anybody is just buying into this manosphere thing. That doesn't exist. I think that kind of gives a bad name to people that actually, I mean, I feel really bad for kids that are buying into that. Because that's not how this stuff was supposed to be. It's okay to be more, I want to be the masculine guy to open doors and buy dinners and stuff like that. But it's not cool to be saying that women should shut up and not do anything. That's not cool. That's not how that's supposed to be. And I really, I heard you, I don't know why I tuned in on the radio. And I just randomly heard that. And I just felt like, you know, I want to just give kind of a public announcement

1:19:04that there are guys out there that are more traditional that don't believe in that. You know what I mean, and I think that like on the other hand, it gives it a bad name because there's this whole other, you know, kind of feminine, it's like wrong feminism movement that says, you know, all men are this way. And all men suck because of they believe in this manosphere. And I just truly don't think that exists. I think there, I mean, I have a lot of guy friends, you know, in Cincinnati. And, you know, we, we all, you know, are trying to be in relationships. And I have playing guys that have been married. And, you know, that it, you can't, that's not a real thing. Kids, if you're listening, that's not, that's not a good way to go about this. Let me, let me, let me, let me, I couldn't agree more. If you don't have a partner, right, then what do you have? I mean, there should be equal parts. Just as I don't think so, Matt, I was in the airport. I've been talking about this. I was in the airport on Thursday and, um, and so this man, this older gentleman,

1:20:08he was with his wife. It looked like his wife. I didn't know them, but it looked like it. He was carrying two of the roller luggages, two, two of the roller luggages. So he had two and a big bag and she just carried her purse. Now it's a nice thing for him to do, but Matt, I don't think that's good either. I wouldn't want my man to pay for every single thing or carry every single bag and make him uncomfortable. I can carry my own bag and you carry your own bag. I can pay for, for things just as you can pay for things. I mean, how do you, how, at what point? Because if you go either side, I have a, I have a friend who pays for everything and he'll top secretly say it's annoying him and how do you have a real relationship like that? Well, I will say that, like, it depends on the guy, right? I mean, for me, like, I find joy in making sure my woman doesn't have to carry those bags and I find, I think that's fun to be like, oh, I'm the guy. I get to do, I want to make her as happy as possible, right?

1:21:09Like, that's a, it's a joy thing. It's not like a, you can't do it. It's not that you don't have the ability to do it. It's not a belittling thing to say, of course you could do this. Of course you can do that. Of course you carry your bag, of course you can buy your food. You have money, you have a job, like, of course you can do all those things. But at least for me, as a guy, as more of a traditional man, I think it's fun to be able to be like, I get to do this to make you feel like I'm protecting you. I'm, I'm taking care of you. Like, it's, it's a thing for me, right? And I think it goes both ways in that. Like, when, you know, I've never been married or anything, but if I do hopefully God bless, get married at some point, to be able to come home and be like, you know, my wife wants to take care of me and stuff, like, I think it goes both ways, right? I just don't know how you're single, man. How are you single? I mean, with this attitude and this, and I love that you're, you're calling and you're talking about this and speaking to younger men too, because these are these 13-year-olds that follow these guys. And I'm telling you, if you watch this Netflix documentary,

1:22:11inside the Manusphere and, and the, the guy. I haven't seen it yet. They found pretty, it sounds pretty terrible. It was hard to watch. It was hard to watch. It was hard to watch how these men talk and treat women. And they, they, they can flicked themselves all the time, all up. And they, Louis Thoreau, who's the British documentary, has two interviewed them. All they, he would ask one question, Matt. And they would throw them off their game and say, this is going to be a hit piece. It was really weird. And in fact, Pierce, uh, who's, Pierce Morgan had an argument with one of the guys talking about this documentary and he went off the rails. I mean, so they don't have a, a, a large fuse either. Matt, I appreciate it. I got to get to my next guest, Michael Hawkins. But thank you so much for your comment. I really do appreciate it. Hank, we're going to get to you in a moment. But first, we're going to run it over to a real man who does yoga. We're going to switch topics here. Because I've been a yoga instructor for about 15 years.

1:23:12And it's one of the things I love that I get to do in life. And, uh, on the phone with me right now is Mike Hawkins, who is a board member for Project Yoga, yoga, Cincinnati, a nonprofit designed to bring yoga to underserved communities and need it. Mike, welcome to the show. Thanks for being here. Thanks, Donna. Great to be with you. Well, and always as I watch this morning for you. Exactly. I was just going to say you're not just a board member for Project Yoga. You're also one of my yoga students. And the first question I want to ask you. How long have you been practicing yoga and what got you started? I would say 25 to 30 years been doing it. Started with Lilia Spolan, who unfortunately just passed away at 92 last week. She was a big time yoga instructor here. And WCET had a yoga with Lilia. So that's how my wife and I got started with her. And kind of reason was, you know, saw something about it and had read about it.

1:24:16And always been, you know, athletically inclined. And, you know, being asked to. And just was another addition to, okay, this is something else that enhances your overall physical well-being. And then, you know, you got more into it. Understand the aspects of mindfulness and breathing and breath work and, you know, your body and all that sort of stuff. So that's what led me to it. And so it was such such an interesting transition to go from inside the manosphere, the toxic masculinity and that kind of stuff into men doing yoga. Because, and I, you know, I taught, I used to teach out in Los Angeles for years and years. So there were plenty of men. But I think there are two guys in our class. Normally two or three, you and Barry and another guy. So guys sometimes feel uncomfortable like they're, you know, they're, they don't know what to do.

1:25:17Maybe it's a girl thing. What would you say to somebody, a man who wants to get going in yoga? Well, I would say get involved. But, you know, there's a great book I told you about called real men do yoga and has Eddie George, former running back, I think, for the Tennessee Titans. In each chapter, different professional athletes who've incorporated yoga into their training and all it's enhanced their recovery and led to less injuries and more flexible. And, you know, that whole thing and then I've done some other yoga teachers that are teaching the basketball players at Xavier. So it's definitely a value add to you if you want to be physically active, whether you're doing golf or tennis or any other types of physical activity. And the more you get into it, you have an appreciation for, you know, the breathing and the body work and all those sorts of dynamics. And then it, you know, for me, it's led me to become a certified yoga instructor

1:26:19and then the journey on to project yoga Cincinnati board. You know, I, I just realized because I have a friend who owns a skydiving company in Denver. And he does all the skydiving home shows, the home, the home games for the Broncos. And he's invited me to a couple times to get on the field and, and that kind of stuff. When I was on the field, Peyton Manning actually was the quarterback. It was the first game for Peyton Manning. And I was on the field for the Denver Denver Broncos and they were all doing yoga. All of them on the field laying down doing yoga. So tell me about project yoga. It's a nonprofit in Cincinnati. It's based around trauma informed yoga creates a safe, safe space for, for kids to practice and learn these tools to help them heal physically, emotionally and psychologically. So tell me about how you got involved. And, and I know that there's a pretty big event coming up as well. Yeah, so one of my prior yoga teachers, she was actually doing some of the teaching with project yoga.

1:27:23In fact, was at Christ Child Daycare Center. And so I went with her a few times, you know, doing classes for four and five year olds in over the Ryan area. And, you know, it prompted me to get certified as an instructor. So I could do it as well because you had to be certified. So I back in 2019, I did a two week, two hundred hour yoga certification. Wow. God certified. And then was teaching for about a year with four and five year olds at Christ Child Daycare Center. And then we also were teaching at Taft Elementary. I was doing fifth grade boys. And then I did a at Hersh Rec Center in Avondale with eight men, a six week. How do the kids respond to yoga? Because it's breathing, it's opening their body, it's movement, it's stillness. How do they respond after they do a class? Because I've never taught kids, I've never taught anybody below 17 and 17 and younger.

1:28:24Yeah. So it's very different at all stages. I mean, the little ones, four and five year olds, you kind of play with it. And when you're doing cat calpose, you're mowing and mowing. That sort of stuff with them. With the fifth grade boys, I introduce them to some audio stuff of LeBron James and talking about how he does yoga. And you know, they really responded to that idea. But with trauma informed and particularly underserved underprivileged community, everybody's not at the same level and they're not ready. So some of those kids, you know, they just wanted to lay on their mat and fall asleep. And it wasn't one of these things that you're making somebody do something, but you're sharing with them in a different way. Because trauma informed yoga is an approach to yoga that considers the effects of trauma and individuals physically, emotionally, psychologically.

1:29:26And it emphasizes creating a safe, supportive environment for the students who have experienced it. And maybe they're homeless. They might be single family. They might be living with other things. They have other violence, you know, depending on where you live. So they've got all this. So it's not something where it's so structured like, okay, here's how you do this pose and be sure and do it this way. But it's more, hey, here's an opportunity, share the breathing, share the this. And we have some little breathing exercises and learn some steps in your daily life, you know, stop, pause, think, breathe, and then act. And I mean, we've had responses from some of them like, oh, I was home. I was going to get in a fight with my brother, but I decided to take a breath and then I didn't. Exactly. That is the point. Yoga is about the inner workings of your body. It's understanding when emotions come up and how to handle them.

1:30:29It is quieting the mind. It's calming the nervous system. So Mike, we have just about one minute. Can you please tell me about the event you have project yoga and the ripple effect? Sure. So the impact of yoga is having a ripple effect in people in a variety of ways. And we call our main event, which is April 25th. That fuel collective is our fundraising annual event. And we end up having some of the kids and teachers and whatnot talk testimonial wise about what it's done and benefits. And as I say, it's our annual fundraiser. And if people are interested in attending, check it out on project yoga Cincinnati.org. And we'd love for more to participate. The businesses can be sponsors of it and bring their employees, staff. So it's a great event. I will definitely be their project yoga Cincinnati.org. Is that right?

1:31:29Yep, that's right. Mike, Michael Hawkins, thank you so much for being here. I'll see you in class on Saturday. All right, all the best. Thank you so much. Hey, hang in there. Okay, because I'm going to come back to you. You're going to be the first call I get right after the break. Major League Baseball is back opening day is Thursday. What is the best memory you have of opening day? Five one three seven four nine seven thousand one eight hundred. The big one. Taking your calls next plus coming back. Did you know that communication is only seven percent verbal. And the rest is all energy. Are you aware of this? We're going to talk about that as well. I'm down to D 700 WL W Cincinnati. We're ready to watch baseball. We're back at Stoney D. We got March Madness going on. We've got Major League Baseball. The Reds playing tonight opening day on Thursday.

1:32:33Are you going to be going to opening day five one three seven four nine seven thousand? What's your favorite memory of opening day? And we're going to get into that. But before we we talk about Reds baseball. We've been talking about the new documentary on Netflix. It's called Inside the Manosphere. It's the toxic masculinity from the likes of Andrew and Tristan Tate. They're actually not in the documentary, but they're kind of the godfathers of the quote unquote real world. Hank, you've been hanging on for like 30 minutes. I am I'm really happy to talk to you. Tell me what you think about this whole thing. Hey, Miss Sathy, you're doing an incredible job. Thank you. So amazing. Thanks. And as you'll see, I'm the US Marine combat veteran. And any real man out there would open a door for a lady, would, you know, offer his left arm cordially for a lady.

1:33:34And would really man up. And if any of those guys, that are not that are that take the other way, which ain't made to me, I just laughed in their face. How do you get to be that guy, Hank? How do you get to be the guy that opens the door? Like Matt, the caller prior to you. I'll do it that way. Yeah. So is it because it does it come from your parents? Oh, it comes from my mom. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm wondering these, these 13-year-old boys that are following these, these guys in the real world, they're paying to be part of this membership. I think it's like $15 a month in there. And they're, this is all, all on the documentary. And the way that they speak and talk to and talk about women is pretty horrible. Absolutely. Yeah, I knew me.

1:34:35My wife told us almost 30 and she's the most important thing in the world to me. Yeah, I mean, I just hope that guys that like you that are that can be heard more that you're on the air with me. And I'm so glad you held on for so long. Because we had some men that have called and stepped up today and said, hey, guys, for the kids out there, there are different men out there. And there are you watch this. Are you planning on watching the documentary, Hank, on Netflix? Now, no. I'm kind, it's an interesting take. I do a relationship show on this station on Saturday nights. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted to watch it. Because it is, it's so important to see and hear and listen to what young men. And we really feel like we have a problem with young boys in this society who are video games

1:35:38and social media and iPhones and that kind of stuff. And they don't get out to meet people. They don't go out into the real world, not the real world on the internet, but into the real world. To meet girls and ask them out on dates and to be friends with them. And it's kind of a problem. What do we do about it, Hank? Let's solve this right now. What do we do? Well, I mean, geez, why can't these kids get out of their own head and actually get out there and meet people like we did back in the day? The generation X. Right. That was the best time when we were kids. And we used to go ice skating or we used to go play football, you know, touch football or, you know, it was go see a baseball game. And even play baseball, we played sports our whole lives. We were out until until done from dust to dawn in the summer.

1:36:39You'd be home when the street light comes up. When the street light, when it's time for dinner, my mom would literally open the door and scream. It's time for dinner and we would all run in. I mean, those were the days. Hank, I really appreciate you. I know I've said it a million times already. But thanks for holding on for so long. I appreciate your thoughts on this. Well, thank you, Miss Donna. Thank you. Well, we're sure you do the best. Appreciate it. Thank you. Let's get to Nicole real quick. I'm going to answer it here, Drew. Nicole, what do you think about? What are you thinking about this? Okay, I just want you to recap. What is it? Okay, what is this documentary about? Because I just got in my car after dropping my daughter off with four of her friends. And they were all listening and we're like, okay, what is this about? What is it? What is it? So it's a brand new documentary on Netflix. And it's called Inside the Manosphere, right? And it's we're looking, and we looked it up. Yeah, but like the premise. The premise is that these guys,

1:37:41there's a group of guys that are online that basically it's toxic masculinity. They talk about that all the time during this documentary. The way that they feel about women is they should own and control. And they can have as many wives as they want. And the women that are with them should, you know, clean the house and cook and take care of things as long as they pay for everything. Long as they pay for everything. I, well, and now I'm just going to say real quick. Okay, my daughter is a freshman in college. Okay, she's learning her, she's learning everything right now. And this is so interesting. And we are all like involved. I'm going to watch, are you doing your relationship show tonight? I am not. I was put on today. So I'm not, but I'll be back on Saturday. Can you call me? No, tell me what you think about it. I really am going to because I am like legit going home. And I am going to watch this.

1:38:43I know I probably will be throwing things at my TV. Brace yourself. But I am going to watch this because I am so interested in it. And so were the poor girls in my car that I just dropped off like a little charity event that they were going to. And we were all like, what is this? What is this? We can't watch this. Yeah, you do. And the British film director is hilarious. His name is Louis Theroux. He's pretty famous. And so he just asks Nicole. He'll ask one question. Well, why do you do that? Or why do you think it this way? And they get all flipped out. And they start saying this is going to be a hit piece. It's kind of crazy. So please call me next Saturday. Nicole, let me know what you think, right? I definitely will because I always listen to you on Saturday nights when you do your relationship stuff. Because that's when I'm picking my daughter up. Who is making herself in the world without a stupid man?

1:39:46Chick Club. Close your ears on this chick. Chick Club would just, Chick Club would just walk in because they're doing to talk about a major league baseball. But yes, Nicole, I really appreciate it. And thank you for listening and call me next Saturday. Please, I'm going to be waiting for you. Okay, most definitely, Donna. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Bye bye. Chick, so what do you think? I mean, listen, you haven't seen it. Because I talked to you already about this Netflix documentary on the craziness of the of the toxic masculinity. You're not a guy like that. I already know. No, and I've said it on air here numerous times. The greatest thing to happen in my lifetime in sports is title nine. And I umpire girls. That's right. Bass pitch softball and girls volleyball. I love women sports. I love women. I believe in equality. Yes. The whole night. Keep going, Sarah. Got a lot of respect for women.

1:40:47I will say this at. I'm going to speak at the price old old-timers baseball. I'm the MC again at their banquet. Okay. And it's right around Mother's Day. Okay. And I said it last year. I'm probably going to say it again that love women. They are undefeated, untied, but often scored upon. But yeah, it's, um, yeah. All right. Thank you. And I love you. And let's talk to, let's talk about major league baseball. We have opening day. How exciting is this? Oh, it is. It's off the charts. Exciting. And the reds because because of the heat in Arizona, that robbed you of your show tonight. Yes. But yeah, over a hundred degrees out in Arizona. And so they've decided to move the game at night. So I'll be on here from six to eight thirty. Then I'm sticking around after the reds White Sox game and take the listeners from 1130 to mid-90.

1:41:48We're the hardest working management business. But just really excited. I mean, it is a national holiday here in Cincinnati with the whole town shutting down. And you can just imagine the crowds downtown and on the banks. Pouring into the restaurants, the saloons. And really the streets because of the Finley market, the annual Finley market parade is just a phenomenal. It really is. Mom and dad, take your family down. Anchor yourself on Fountain Square and just watch the parade at the at the end. You know, come through and see all the floats and and the Cowboys Jeff Brantley is the grand marshal. Just a perfect pick. Just an absolute. And we're going to be at Holy Grail. A lot of us are going to be down there. Scott Sloan and Moegger, Eddie Fingers and Rocky, Willie and guests and Lance McAllister is going to do the inside pitch on Thursday. So what do you, I mean, I have a favorite memory of open day. And I've been in the parade before it.

1:42:48If you haven't, if you haven't done the whole opening day and the parade and everything, check you are so right. You got to get down there and experience it. What a fun day should be maybe 72 degrees. Hopefully the rain will hold off. But it's going to be beautiful weather. What is your favorite memory of opening day? Check my favorite memory April 8th of 1985. The reds defeated the Montreal Expose 4 to 1. Pete Rose, three hits, three RBI's. However, two snow delays. Wow. Yes, covering, helping cover for the Dayton Daily News. And being kind of a backup to the great Hal McCoy Hall of Fame baseball writer. So that's, that's my favorite. It, you pray for sunshine and warm weather. That day it was, and there was a little bit of sun, but two snow delays in that game, just absolutely crazy. That is crazy. But really, it's a collage of memories going down,

1:43:49sometimes covering it and then sometimes as a fan. That's, that's my favorite memory. I'm going to ask you, what do you like better covering the game or going as a fan? You know what's crazy? I'm often asked what's, you know, my favorite sports and whatever. There's nothing better than a reds game on a warm summer Friday night to go as a fan. Yeah. Okay. To write about. I'd love, you know, college basketball was awesome. It only takes two hours, you know, and you got several games during the week. But to sit on a couch and veg. I like watching football. Yeah. You know, January 1st is one of my favorite days of the year. But so many people talk about this time of year being the best time. It's been time in Cincinnati. Yes. So fun. My favorite memory and, and I had only been in Cincinnati for maybe four months. I got here on November, the end of November.

1:44:50And I met this guy who was a musician here. He played in a cover band within two or three months of meeting him three or four months or whatever. I got here and our first date. He was then to be my husband. But my first date with him was opening day at the reds. Well, I will never forget that. Yeah. I've been to several opening days. And like I said, I've been in the parade and things like that. It's a radio host in Cincinnati. And it's been a long time since I've been in the parade. It's been a long time since I've been to opening day because I have another job. And I'm going to be working all day. But I, I will be celebrating it in spirit with everybody. There were a few times when I was part of the coverage at the Holy Grail. But I'm also working. Yes, I'll be substitute teaching that day. However, we'll, we'll be following the game closely and the coverage. And for the fans out there, they always ask, why is the next day dark?

1:45:51You know, you open on a Thursday. Yes. There's no game on Friday. Well, they keep that open. Just in case there is rain and you get washed out or snowed, you know, whatever. So if you can't get the game in on Thursday, they leave it open on Friday. That's exactly right. And then Saturday, next Saturday, that will be kids opening day. The kids get to see the players walk the red carpet. It is, I wish they had a kids opening day when I was young. So yeah, they get to walk the red carpet out there. That's exactly right. Watch the reds and get autographs and it's a phenomenal day. And that'll be my first extra innings after the game till nine o'clock. Next Saturday. You know, I started because when I grew up in Connecticut, and we used to go to Yale Bowl games. We lived in New Haven. So it was running down the bowl games. It was so fun. But we didn't really have baseball. And one of the funnest movies I ever watched about baseball was Major League,

1:46:51you know, with Charlie King. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a classic. Oh, gosh. Bob Euker was so funny in that movie where it was so boring. The game was so boring. They were so, you know, that was such a bad team that he would take a sip of a slurpee while he was calling the game. It was so funny. But what, what baseball movie? And we only have a minute. And I want to talk about what you're talking about tonight. What, what movie did, do you love about baseball? It's a tie. I've got two. Okay. The first one. It was just on H, I mean, HBO. I don't think it was on mainstream, but long gone. Okay. Filmed in Braydenton, Florida at McKeckney Field. But gosh, a William L Peterson was studed. Cantrell and the Tampego Stogies and Virginia Madsen. Just incredible. And then of course, a bull Durham. Absolutely. Love that. Yes. Oh, Kevin Costner is Crash Davis. Susan Sarandon. Oh, my gosh. I'm she was gorgeous. Unbelievable. Annie, Annie was phenomenal. And then Tim Robbins, her husband.

1:47:53Newk LaLouche. It's just a priceless. When wasn't he in two baseball field of dreams? That was Kevin Costner, too, right? Kevin Costner. Uh, dreams and what boulder on these? Uh, no. Isn't field of dreams, Kevin Costner? Field of dreams was Robert Redford. Uh, is that true? True. Field of dreams. In that right. Field of dreams was Kevin Costner. I'm pretty sure it was. Yes. I. Yes. Okay. Yes. So, uh, I mean, Chick Ludwig, you. The natural. I'm sorry. The natural was Robert Redford. Yes. Yeah, that's right. Thank you. I thank you, Drew. Okay. So tell me what's going on tonight. Who do you have? I know you have a big show lined up. Yes, we're going to talk about the, uh, right out of the gate, the of all the rights of spring. The NCAA tournament. Yeah. Men's and women's. The, the masters golf tournament in Augusta, Georgia. The Kentucky Derby and the Indianapolis 500.

1:48:54Red's opening day is, uh, is my favorite. Wow. You know, it's, it's everybody's favorite here in Cincinnati. And I'm going to talk about the Reds and lead, lead up to, uh, Red's coverage at 830 with the 905 first pitch tonight against the White Sox. But get into the NCAA tournament. So proud of right state, uh, in their performance against Virginia. Yesterday, right state was my beat at the Dayton Daily News for 10 years before I took over the Bengals and the NFL beat. And then really just upset for Miami, uh, 32 and two. Can you imagine what the reunions are going to be like for the Miami Red Hawks, but they just ran into an absolute buzz saw. It was a bad matchup. The Tennessee volunteers and, um, but yeah, and then get into the Reds. They can win 88 games this year. Get back to the playoffs. You want to avoid the Dodgers and you just want to go farther. This is a better team than last year. I think, uh, manager Tito Franconi has a better grip on this team and, uh, yeah, they can.

1:49:57You're, you're hearing it from chicken. You're going to hear from him tonight. Six to midnight. Basically tune in, chick, Ludwig. Thank you so much. And you really kill it when you talk about sports. I literally thank you so much. I love listening to you, Donna D. Absolutely. Thank you so much. What a great show. And thanks for all the callers. We had so many callers producing the show Drew Wester Heidi. Thank you so much. We'll see you next, uh, uh, tune into chick, but I'll see you next Saturday right here on 700 WLW Cincinnati. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Jamba. Jump in at JambaCasino.com. Let's Jamba. No purchase necessary. VTW Group. Boy, we're prohibited by law. CCNC is 21 plus sponsored by JambaCasino. Imagine if your Wi-Fi was a little hot, smarter, and way more reliable. Picture it. Your TV, phone, laptop, even your fancy fridge,

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