Do we like the DJ Moore pick?

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2:04Buffalo needs players who can make huge plays in huge moments. That's DJ Moore. Williams. Looking down field, watching down field, going for it all. And there's Pat, there's winning. DJ Moore. I like to move. A number one ride receiver who never misses starts. DJ Moore worked with Joe Brady, the new head coach of the bills in Carolina, and yet his best year. This is one of those situations where an early deadline for a major guarantee forced the bears to do something. And they found a trade partner with a team coach by someone who knows more very well. It's my show and the bulldog. We have breaking news out of the NFL, according to Adam Schefter, wide receiver DJ Moore is being traded to the Buffalo bills. Yeah, I guess that's probably safe to assume at this point. Give Colin coward one thing.

3:04DJ Moore doesn't miss games. He looked that up. Or probably someone did it for him. He has played seven. He has started and played 17 games in each of the last five years. This one is complicated for me. Right, you know, back to Colin coward twice in one minute, number one receiver. How do you define it? Is he one of the best, let's see, carry the 32 wide receivers in the NFL, almost definitely not at 29, almost definitely not. Is he better than anybody the bills have? Almost definitely yes. We have had we have had this existence where it's true and it's also perceived that we sort of represent some, I don't know, is cult too strong like when it comes to wide receivers, like the bills lose in the playoffs every year because they don't have anybody better than Khalil Shakir, like no offense.

4:06It's become such a, you know, it started with wide receiver train in the mornings and it's like a locomotive times whatever the conversation about this through the years. DJ Moore is complicated for me because as somebody that's like, you know, like any fan, right? I mean, you've heard about this player for, he's played eight years. So at least that long and he's mostly been buried on teams that didn't go anywhere. That changed last year with the bears, but his numbers took a dive with the bears last year because you know, they had Luther Burton, Colston, Loveland, Roma, Dunes, they ran the ball like it was more of a well-rounded offense as opposed to for most of Moore's career when he was kind of on his own. And that of course is, you know, you're going to hear over and over, including from Joe

5:08Brady at some point when Joe Brady was his offensive coordinator. I think Brady and maybe Brandon Bean, who, I mean, this is Carolina, if that matters. I think the message from the bills here is let's party. And I get that for Brady. It's funny being, and I'm not his biggest critic. I mean, I, he has really, his Q rating has the show ever sounded older. His Q rating has gone way down in 12 months, way down. But you know, like, I'm not as fierce on him as other people, but like this, this is him and this is Brady, who is also him. I'm done carrying around bulky drinks. And I'm definitely done cleaning melted candy out of my pockets. So yeah, I traded them both in for fruity rainbow five hour energy shots. These little guys are as pocket-sized as any candy.

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7:10I'm so blessed to lead an amazing team at United Healthcare focusing on the member experience and making that better. I'm Spencer and I'm committed to care. The ticket, Lady Jennifer of Coons. Well many thanks, good sir. Here is my discover card. They accept a discover at Renaissance Fairs? Yeah, they do here. Discoverers accepted at the places I love to shop. Get it with the times. With the times. You're playing the loot. Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right? Members accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nilsen report, you know, being choice if you want, dipping back into a player they know at a position that they need, being will be interesting to listen to eventually on this because I wonder if he sounds contrite about wide receiver. He often does not, but you might get that from him.

8:11I just decided when the off season started and we started to throw around names that DJ Moore was someone I wanted no part of because I've been hearing for almost his entire career excuses for why he isn't more. And it's well he doesn't have a good quarterback and then, you know, he gets a good quarterback, but then, you know, he quits on a route and the season or walks off the field during a play. It's not the richest free agent year ever, but I wanted somebody else like I just have to be honest. I've said it. Like we didn't spend a lot of time on DJ Moore. You don't spend a lot of time on guys that are under contract, but I was so, I was like ready for Mike Evans. Who I don't know. I don't have every idea ranked, but I didn't want this. And then you get the added fun, exciting combo of what it costs to trade for him and

9:16then the money, all of which I hate, I mean, I can't believe the Bears did this well for a player. Everybody knew they didn't want. There it is. Ten words. I can't believe they did as well for a player. Everybody knew they didn't want. I think it was possible they were going to cut DJ Moore. And I'm giving up pick 60. I really well do respect. Don't care about the history of pick 60. I know what the value of a late second round pick is and 60 versus 55 or 65 doesn't matter much to me. I have a second round pick. I'm giving up for this guy. I get a fifth. I went to the trusty draft value chart and there are numerous of these charts. But the one that I use, 300 points, I know, it's math, 300 points for a second, for pick 60, 26.2 for a fifth, like, you know, it's nice number if you run a marathon.

10:17But well, we have just about give or take six months to talk about DJ Moore and you're going to hear it all. We're going to hear about how finally the bills did the thing, which was overdue. And you know, it's not wrong. I think that's mostly going to come from the fan base, which is fine, the fan voice is why we're here. Like it matters. But it's not always, you know, to be put it mildly, it's not always objective. And then you're going to hear from everybody else, which is everything I saw today online was like, what? And that's really how I tend to be about bills and sabers stuff is more on that side of it, which is not to say we have to fight. You know, people are saying like, oh, well, they got better today. Guess what? Every time you've traded a draft pick for a player, you got better that day. But we know, we know better than that, right? I also got, if they win a Super Bowl, we'll love it.

11:21Wow, really, tell me that again, I didn't think about that yet. If they every trade in the history of sports looks good, if you want a Super Bowl or a title, that's needless, you know, that's useless. They have spent so much money at wide receiver, a position group, everybody kind of thinks they're bad at to rank second in the league in cap at receiver after today. DJ Moore hasn't played it down yet for them. So we'll see what happens. It's exciting. It's interesting to talk about. They didn't sit still. He's a known player. He's really talented. I'm just sort of bracing for I'm not going to lose sleep over this. It's a year is going to go by first. But I'm sort of, I guess expecting there to be stuff with him.

12:22And maybe that's not fair, but that's my whatever level perception of DJ Moore through his career is, you know, eventually, I don't want to hear anymore excuses. I don't want to hear about how your quarterback wasn't that good. They gave him the best quarterback prospect in years. And you know, it was mixed. And it's not to say that Caleb Williams was perfect, but it was at best mixed. And I want a guy that the bills would invest in like this to be better than that. I wanted to be somebody that is just like you don't have to have those conversations. You don't have to have those questions about his work rate or whatever it is, you know, he's not big. I'm not going to hold that against him, except for how Mike Evans is and that the bills really don't have big at wide receiver. I mean, not in spades. So there it is.

13:24It's tons of money. And at some point that does matter. I'm sure there will be a lot of it doesn't coming my way in the next few hours or months. I think it actually doesn't matter the salary cap and all of that. I mean, I think it should to anybody who's serious about this. I think it should, but I also I will, I will concede there are, you know, compromises you can make or should make even sometimes. And the bills, of course, have been so close will DJ more be the difference? I mean, that's the bet. I would have liked a second round pick. I got excited this morning before any of this, listening to Jeremy and Joe talk about the Rams and a light bulb went on in my head. Like this is exactly what the bills should do is how the Rams not necessarily trade their number one pick the bills for some all pro, but load up on the back half of the draft.

14:28You know, they haven't done a lot of that. And the Rams have been lucky to do so well with their picks on day three, but they've also had a lot of them. And I got jealous. I'm hearing about that. I think of the Rams. I think of a team that sells their draft picks, but they only sold some of their early ones. And the whole point, the right point on the draft is what you don't know. And so give me dark throws toward the end can even be round four, which is not even that late, but it's still Saturday, it's still day three. Give me more of that. And on a team like the bills are right now with a lot of, you know, questions, if not issues or problems, I mean, they're roster isn't terrible. But they have a lot of issues, you know, or questions about like who's going to do what? And how many players are going to end up replacing? To me, the right strategy would be to move down, which I always say admittedly, because I think it's right and get to a point where you have 12 draft picks in this draft.

15:32Say, I mean, I'm not going to go crazy with a number like 20, because that's ridiculous. Even if it was fun to do that at firstpick.com 10 years ago, but, you know, give me some real quantity. And don't you think, don't you agree? Wouldn't you like to think that because most fans, I think think that some teams are better with this than others. I mean, it's, it has to be true on a certain level, but the margins are probably pretty slight. But I think most fans think, you know, how many, you know, people, maybe it's even you, you know, people in your life are like, Brandon being his bad at drafting. I don't think he's bad at drafting. I think there's a lot of luck in it. And it's a team effort. And, you know, maybe some miscalculations have happened, but I don't think most teams are really bad at it. And I don't think likewise, most teams are that much better than the field at it. I think there's a lot of it's small samples. It's more just kind of random, not all random, but a lot of it is.

16:33Wouldn't you like to think that your bills, our bills, if you will, can beat, not beat the game, but come in above average and figuring out what to do. With their draft, wouldn't you like to think that? I don't think most fans think that. And as long as they not move into Saturday or even Friday and sort of bulk up, then, well, it's going to be tougher for them to change that, that, uh, history or narrative. They did add a fifth today. I got a tweet about like the draft value of the different rounds and everything I mentioned is already a second or even a third is by numbers exponentially more valuable than a fifth. But to clarify what I like about the, what the Rams point is, is having a lot of those picks. And I don't know.

17:34I think the bills are kind of in general, a team that could do well to bring in the word. I think we would use in media is infusion of, uh, young talent. So I don't know. I don't love the player, but he's talented. I hate the cost. I cannot believe that the bears were able to get as much as a second for DJ more. No matter what the fifth is worth, I can't believe that happened. Um, but you know, it's almost spring. I mean, we want to be in a good mood and it's a good player. They didn't have it at a position of need. So right. What else can I say? 803 05 50 for your calls. Oh, one more thing I must say, Bulldog is not here. Can you imagine if he was just sitting here this whole time and I'm like talking, we should try that. At what point would he just like, uh, I mean, we're on camera now as you would see him. That's funny. Maybe G did a thing where you like he's superimposed like he's actually sitting here.

18:36He's not. He's, uh, we're trading sick days. It seems lately, but yeah. So he's not here. I need to say that. How do you feel? We will talk about Colton, Paraco flipping off the sabers. Um, yep, that is the news from today. He's not come, cowboy dance not coming. And so plan B, I guess, uh, Travis Yost will join me at 430. He'll want to talk bills too. I wish we had the whole day with Travis, but that's, you know, asking a lot. Sal Capaccio as well, then pregame sabers penguins at six. Let's, uh, hear from you. Here's Steve with us. Hi, Steve. Hey, Mike, how are you? Okay. Um, I just wanted to, I wanted to make a few points about these and more. I, I think he's a fine player, but in my perspective, every other GM and the NFL should be calling being right now to ask him out to dinner because he just got

19:36holstered, um, good player, but when you, when you look at it in my mind, all the money that they could have, or that they have to free up to spend on this player could have been put towards trying to resign. Conor, government and David Edwards and keeping a second on pick. I can't see the value there. Okay. Thanks, Steve. This is where I have to be careful. I think where everybody should be careful because for everything I've said already, I'm not a huge fan here of this move, this player and trade, but I can't pretend that I didn't care a lot about adding a receiver and then, or thus tell you that I wish they would have spent it on lineman. Like that, that I can't, I can't say that. I won't, I, I, I couldn't say that because I think why receiver was important. And this accomplishes that. I mean, he is everybody eats dead. Is, is it no longer everybody eats like, are we never going to hear that again?

20:38I wouldn't mind if we never heard that again, um, because everybody mostly snacked and nibbled. But that's tougher when you're making this kind of a purchase. Um, it, it shouldn't be everybody eats, right? How do you do this? And then advertise how we're going to, you know, spread the ball. So everybody is involved. And that's what's going to make us different and good. You, you can't, you really, that's kind of, that's got to be put to bed. Yeah, um, I, I wouldn't have preferred the bills, make their number one priority, uh, lineman. I just can't believe they had to pay this price for this player. Simply, that's it. I'm going to be excited to have this player. And I think it should make them more dangerous. I mean, that's obviously what they're going for. I just cannot believe what it cost. And that's kind of the thing with the bills, isn't it? Isn't that sort of usually the criticism is, wow, what?

21:40I mean, I was tweeting this morning about, I guess I don't follow a lot of fans or any fans I don't know, but nobody on my feed was impressed. Like it's just, it's analysts, it's fantasy. I mean, for fantasy, it's a different kind of, it's a different context, but nobody was a, people were, like, the barn wells of the world were in disbelief that this actually needed to be what you paid for DJ more. I, that's, I relate to that. That's to me, the, the, the leading voice, right? I mean, there, there's going to be a range of opinions on the player, uh, but pretty much everybody will tell you he's talented. And I'm not going to say he's not. It's just what it cost. And I think, I don't know what you do with this in terms of if you're having a conversation with somebody, but if somebody's going to tell you it doesn't matter what it costs, what do you do? What do you say next? Okay. Well, what I tend to think is I can't talk to you about this. I think it does matter. And if you think it doesn't, how am I going to convince you that it does?

22:42If you're just going to tell me that the cap is meaningless and that who needs draft picks, well, you know, save that for somebody for the next guy. I can't have a conversation with somebody who's going to tell me that. Um, I think it does matter. It's, I think it absolutely should matter to the bills. They would never tell you that it doesn't matter to them. But it's still happened. Being had that quote recently where he said that a flaw in his game, not, not an exact quote, a flaw in his game is sometimes people need to tell me no. That person called in sick, that whoever that person is that he's thinking of when he says that people, you know, sometimes need to ring him in was not around today because just buddy, I mean, just be patient and see what happens to DJ Moore, who was bidding against you for DJ Moore. I wonder he would have an answer to that. I would hope the bears would. I don't know. I don't know who it is. He's the bills are not the only team that needed a receiver.

23:43But I don't know, yikes. A second, this, this, the draft is six weeks away. A friend of mine tweeted to me, how come this second wasn't so available to the league back in October? Good point. At a great point. Here's Zach next, Isaac. Hey, um, so I would like to start off by, if you know who led the Chicago bears in receiving last year, I don't. Colston, Loveland with only 700 and change. So they came out, he had the, yeah, they clearly had the everybody bug too, which, I'm, yeah, oh, wait a minute. Hold, hold on a second. That's not a, that's not a conclusion. I would draw like he, he's a first round pick. So, and it was close. So it was DJ Moore, right? DJ Moore was picked eight years ago. Okay.

24:43Okay. Love it. Let me, let me say this. Okay. So step on digs and DJ Moore. I just ran, I just divided the numbers up. Is there no, their career numbers are eerily similar. It's upon average is more, a little more catches DJ Moore, a little bit more touchdowns. Okay. Well, his career is closer to over. So, I mean, that's the point about the second round pick is your trading for somebody who's near the end of his career. When the bills traded for digs, they were more, it was more a player in his prime. He's 29 years old, he's 29 years old. He's not biting near the end of his career. He's not, he's not Mike Evans coming off an injury. You know, well, I preferred Mike Evans because I think he's a lot better. That's really it. And yes, he's older, but you know, the bears, there it is, like Colson, Loveland, it was really close. He came on, that was not trending to happen until later on in the season. And he had big weeks as I think of it.

25:45I mean, I guess I should have to have looked this up to, but it was really close between four guys. It was not DJ Moore. It was his worst season by statistics. And I'm not sitting here telling you from any position of authority that he was in decline. I don't know that. And I'm not really seeing that today. Just know that it's, you know, it's a, it's a tougher bet when you're trading for a player who's not even yet 29, but he will be before the season starts. I guess April, so yeah. Okay. Well, here we go. We said, settle in for six months of whether this was a good move. And then the game start, then we'll really know 803 0550 for your calls. Thank you, Zach. We have Travis Yoast, Cel Capaccio. Like I mentioned, Saber's pregame at six o'clock. What's your take? Bulldog is not well. Hopefully tomorrow, trade deadline day tomorrow. Come on. We got a, we got to take our medicine here. Both of us, I missed two days ago.

26:46So I'm not, you know, being critical. We're all going through it. Lines are open for you. Thanks for listening. There's a lot to talk about and we'll continue doing so after this break. This is Mike Shope on WGR. I'm done carrying around bulky drinks. And I'm definitely done cleaning melted candy out of my pockets. So yeah, I traded them both in for fruity rainbow five hour energy shots. These little guys are as pocket sized as any candy. But instead of a sugar crash, you get a zero sugar caffeine boost. Candy can't even compare at this point. Fruity rainbow five hour energy shots treat your taste buds to an explosion of fruity flavor with a tasty caffeine kick. That's right. Caffeine just got a flavor upgrade and it's not just one flavor. Five hour energy shots bring you tasty caffeine and 17 flavors. 17. So if you're craving that candy flavored chaos, but actually want energy that works, grab fruity rainbow five hour energy shots,

27:50pocket sized zero sugar, big flavor available now at fivehourenergy.com or on Amazon. I'm Spencer and I work at United, healthcare. Suspenser, why do you care? I care because my daughter Adeline has special needs. I am motivated by Adeline who inspires me every day. I am driven to help families like mine navigate the healthcare system. I'm so blessed to lead an amazing team at United, healthcare, focusing on the member experience and making that better. I'm Spencer and I'm committed to care. Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter? Right. And the best part they accept discover, accept discover in a little place like this. I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah, huh. Discover's accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby. Get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants. These are making a comeback. I think discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide.

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