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David Harbour: Another Tone Deaf Celeb

Amala Ekpunobi

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‘Stranger Things’ actor David Harbour says people who prioritize their own families are selfish and blames a ‘capitalist mindset’ for why society doesn’t care for each other. This comes after he showed off his $8 million townhouse using a “budget unconscious” designer. Let’s talk about it.

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David Harbour: Another Tone Deaf Celeb

Amala Ekpunobi

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You get a family, you get a house, and you like, sort of, that's your castle, and those are your people, and it's like the rest of the world, or like we protect what's ours, and there's a very sort of capitalist mindset to this ideology, and I. Okay, we have another silver spoon, Hollywood celebrity, criticizing capitalism, even though capitalism loves them, and I have proof, let's talk about it. Yeah, you better. Yeah, you better. As before, we get into today's video. Please consider liking and subscribing. Today, we're going to be talking about David Arbor of Stranger Things fame. He's going viral for a podcast clip that is now circulating where he talks about his, I guess, criticism of the nuclear family and of the capitalist mindset that exists in these day and age. We're going to see if we can understand our way through this, and maybe respond to this. We're going to see if we can understand what's the way through this, and maybe respond. Everything that I know about David Arbor, by the way, I've learned against my will,

not an attack on you, David, I'm just saying. Okay. I don't know, I don't know if it's the world or if it's our culture somewhere where it's just very binary that like, you're either alone, and you're kind of like a weird bachelor or a spinser, or whatever, that I think is a throwback from the olden days, or you get a family, you get a house, and it's like the rest of the world or like we, I don't know. It seems like what he's saying so far is just the human experience, and it's a part of the human experience that predates capitalism as far as I'm aware. Humans for all of life have asked themselves, are they going to end up with a mate, as they would have said a long time ago, and a family, or will they be alone? And of course, when we say alone, it doesn't mean that you're just like some bachelor wandering around or an old spinser sitting and knitting or something like that. It's just to say that you don't have a partner that you've built a family with. You can have friends and community and all these different things and still be alone to a certain extent.

So I'm not sure what he's talking about when he says that there's just a simple binary that exists in society these days. And again, what that has to do with capitalism, I also don't know. And this premise that when you have a family, it's just like F, the rest of the world. I don't know that that's true. I think having a family makes you care about families and creates a sense of community around you for those of you that want it. Now, of course, there are people who settle down and find their person and create children and then go, okay, I only care about this particular group of people. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that choice? I'm not sure. But apparently it's part of a capitalist mindset. Pat, what's ours and the world? There's a very sort of capitalist mindset to this ideology. And I think there's something about the communal living in America that I think we all kind of long for. Not like a communist, but more like the idea of like, friendship and common ground and supporting each other

and taking care of each other as opposed to just these family structures, these nuclear family structures that exist independent of everything else. I'm just very confused as to what any of this has to do with capitalism in this argument that he's making and funnily enough, there's this meme underneath this that says complaints about capitalism. You take the mask off and it's just complaints about the human condition. Of course, we can want friends and family and community is that antithetical to capitalism? I think one could argue that capitalism gives you the freedom to want those things, to desire those things, to chase after those things. It's a freedom that David Arbor himself enjoys. As he's most certainly a capitalist or at the very least somebody who has benefited greatly from capitalism. You give him a quick search on the internet, let's say on a platform like YouTube, and you will find his architectural digest with Lily Allen, his now previous wife. Now, when you look at this architectural digest, you're going to hear him say this within what, a minute of the video? When we started on this design process with budget, unconscious,

designer, Billy Cotton, one of the things he had, I mean, for those of you who have never heard in my life, budget unconscious, and he's been given that phrase or the ability to use that phrase because of capitalism. It also granted him the ability to build this beautiful home with Lily Allen to design it in a way that was budget unconscious and to fill it with his friends and family, at least at this point in his life. It provides you that freedom, and he gained it through working in a capitalist market as an actor. And here's a little fun fact. I believe they listed that little Brooklyn home of her sale and guess what, for eight million buckeroonies. Yeah, yeah, eight million. Now, let's go back to what he said about nuclear families and this whole idea of f*** everybody else. The olden days, or you get a family, you get a house, and you like, sort of, that's your castle, and those are your people, and it's like f*** the rest of the world. Now, is that true at all? Let's just go ahead and look at the US. The US is one of, if not the most charitable nation,

in the world, and it is a capitalist economy. So people are here creating families and creating these castles as he calls them, and still choosing to care deeply about other people. So much so that they use the capital that they have a mass living here in this country to help other people. Now, I don't know about everyone else, but I do have a little bit of a frame of reference for what happens when you create a family as I've just decided to do so in my own life. And upon creating a family, I started to care so much more about the other families living around me. It has been such a community-building thing in life to have a child and create a nuclear family, because suddenly you're getting to know all the other nuclear families that exist around yours. And I think the same could be said for so many others. When you build a family, you're now building a small unit that exists within a community, so you can have both of those things at once. In fact, one often leads to the other. I'll just rip the bandaid off. None of what he's talking about has anything to do with capitalism, which is so often the case, with people of this particular political affiliation

or ideology. They will find a way to look at all the problems that they think the world is experiencing, and then attribute them to capitalism. Attribute them to this enemy that they have created in their head, even though they've benefited greatly. And in his case, I mean, gradually from this enemy that they have created. I think this Scooby Doo meme pretty much sums it up. They're complaints about capitalism, end up being unmasked, and they are just complaints about the human condition. Which fear, it's okay to have complaints about the human condition. It's okay to have complaints about our lack of community and our current society. But because of capitalism, you are in the best position, David, to do something about those complaints and to alter your life in a way that puts you in a position to have the community that you are so longing for. This is like Billie Eilish with the whole stolen land comment and all of her anti-capitalist mumbo jumbo when she's living on that stolen land that she had the opportunity to give back to the Indian tribe who literally asked her for it. She's also going on to sell you uno cards

and perfume refills that run you like, I don't know, $80 or something like that. She's a capitalist. Just switch Billie out for David and switch the perfumes and the uno cards out for an $8 million Brooklyn home and unconscious budget designers. As far as the whole family versus bachelor thing is in his life. Again, what I know about David Arbor, I've learned against my will and he was in an open marriage with Lily Allen and he still found a way to cheat on her through the rules of their open marriage. She then packaged up all the hurt that took place in their marriage into an album that she sold to the world while dressing up as the mistress who was part of the affair and I do guess that David Arbor has capitalism to blame for it. I'll give him that. At the end of the day, because of capitalism, David Arbor is in a position to choose to do whatever he wants with his life. He could build more community. He could build a literal commune. If he wanted to, although he states in this video, that's not his goal. He could go on to be a bachelor, a spinst or even,

with what we're doing with gender nowadays. From that position, he's choosing to talk about what other people want to do in saying it's weird to create a family and then only care about that family. I don't think the problem's capitalism. I don't think the problem is families. It does seem like he's genuinely speaking to something that he and others are experiencing. And I'm sorry to hear that he is lonely. But maybe we want to get to the root cause of that loneliness, rather than project that onto capitalism and people creating families. Anyways, guys, those are my thoughts on this. Firewall, David Arbor clip. I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments down below. I don't want to come off like I'm attacking him. I just genuinely want to talk about what he's arguing in this clip because it left me a little bit confused, but hopefully we saw our way through it. Let me know what you think in the comments down below. Is always if you disagree with anything I said in this video, do get out with you so respectfully. I encourage healthy debate on this channel. And if you like this video, like, subscribe. Click the notification bell be notified every single time I post a video for you guys, which is every day. And I will see you guys tomorrow.

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