
Darren Dreger (FULL INTERVIEW)
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Pinder and Cabbie are joined by TSN’s Darren Dreger to break down some of the biggest storylines around the NHL. The guys start with concern surrounding Auston Matthews after the Toronto Maple Leafs star went down with an injury and the lack of response from teammates following the hit. From there the conversation shifts to the Edmonton Oilers and their ongoing goaltending issues after Tristan Jarry gave up seven goals in a loss to the Dallas Stars. The crew also touches on the Calgary Flames trade deadline moves before wrapping up with a fun question from Cabbie, asking Dreger about the biggest trade that almost happened but ultimately fell through.
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1:00You came in stealth mode today, brother. Hey, okay, hold on a sec. If I had been properly given the heads up, that it was Pinder and Cabby doing the show. You wouldn't come on. That's weak. No, I wouldn't for sure. Come on. But I would have dressed appropriately. I would have had that shirt. It's a start. Instead, I've got a John Deere hat on. John Deere, there's a Paterson egg. And then I've got, Ryan, I think you've seen this hoodie before, Cabby. I don't think you have. Take a look at this. Oh, yes, this is right. Oh, yeah, that's pretty dope. What club is that? That's fighting. Wow, that's the Cam River fighting walleye. So Cam River. It's a, a junior hockey organization, your Thunder Bay Ontario. I haven't checked in their standings this year. But they're really, really good. And they're one of those, Cabby, you'd appreciate this.
2:01They're one of those quirky logos. I mean, it's a cool logo. But they're one of those organizations. And it doesn't just have to be in sport. But they sell out almost immediately. Like, it's just online merch, right? Just the merch. Get it? Well, it's here. Yeah, my daughter and her fiance live in Thunder Bay. So anyway, they put me on the Cam River. And I'm like, oh, I want that stuff. So I've got, I've got several items now. I wasn't expecting to be put on game by Darren Drake. Like a game in hockey for sure. But like as far as fits go, I wasn't expecting not to happen on Friday, March 13th. I can get it. But I appreciate it, brother. Austin Matthews, would take us to Toronto. I mean, this was a miserable, miserable season with all kinds of questions to be answered about their future and how they move forward in the off season before they're capped and left with what looks to be a serious knee injury. Could be the low point of the year for the Toronto Maple Leafs. That's saying a lot when you look at the level of disappointment. That is pretty evident when you know
3:02you're essentially a non-playoff participant. You know, and this is a team that was supposedly built on promise. But in that moment, you saw your decorated leader in Austin Matthews taking up on a dirty play by Radco Goudus. I mean, I think everybody can appreciate that Goudus knew he was caught there. You know, he's got Austin Matthews who seem to be all alone, just point blank. And you know, in the moment, I guess I would be willing to give him a benefit of the doubt is he trying to poke check there. What's he trying to do? But where you take away that moment of doubt is in the extension of the knee and how he powers through Matthews in delivering that knee on knee check. So that's the hockey side of it. If you're willing to call that a hockey play. And it sounds like George Parallels in the Department of Player Safety are. Otherwise, he would be an in-person hearing and he'd be getting six or more games. So it'll be five or fewer. But even more damning than that.
4:04And I'm educated now to say that because the injury doesn't appear to be as bad as it looked. Yes, he's going to have imaging later today to fully diagnose the issue. It sounds like a sprain or a strain and not something more damaging. So yeah, he's still going to be lost for several games if not the remainder of the regular season. But the big takeaway was, you know, it pulled the curtain back. You know, many people who are the naysayers don't love the way Craig Baroubae coaches feels like there's been a disconnect between coach and management and the players. The curtain was pulled back now, right? Otherwise, how do you explain how four other guys on the ice don't recognize what's going on and respond? Now, do you have to see exactly what happened or is it enough to see your captain lying face first on the ice? I think it should be enough, right? That's the DNA of the athlete of a hockey player,
5:06whether you're a pee-wee hockey player or a star in the national hockey league. To have zero response at that point is just brutally unacceptable. But it tells us something. Because again, you know, those who are chasing after Craig Baroubae, oh, well, you know, he hasn't been able to get this team to play the way he needs them to play, expect some to play, tells them how to play. Well, how many times you deliver that message before the player just doesn't want to do it or isn't listening or isn't willing, right? And so in that moment for a lot of people, oh, okay, I get it. I mean, you shouldn't have to tell a player how to respond when his captain or his linemate or his teammate is lying face down on the ice after a dirty hit. So, yeah, it could be galvanizing. We'll see how they move forward. But the takeaway was that they're needed to put your response and there wasn't until they probably, you know, got the tar ripped out of them
6:09during the intermission. So, if Craig Baroubae is playing on this team, I know where he is after that hit happens. And knowing a little bit about Brad Triliving and his history in the minors, I know what he's doing if he's on the ice. Yeah. They've tried to build around a core that might be perceived as soft. Yeah. A lot of tough veteran, you know, physical players. I understand why people are like, it's not work with Baroubae here, but like, he can't give them his harder head is what he said the other day. Correct. And so, it just feels like how he wants to coach is with a group of players that can't or don't want to play the way that he wants to have his strategy. Yeah. And, but that's why the challenge moving forward is so daunting. You know, if you believe in Craig Baroubae and Brad Triliving is a coach in general manager, all right, when you allow them to try and go out and get players that are going to be willing
7:10who have the heart and have the smarts to play that type of game, man is out of tall-ask. That's really hard. I mean, Triliving has been looking for those players. It's not like Craig Baroubae doesn't tell his general manager, all right, look, man, we're too small up front and we don't play with any sort of intestinal fortitude. That needs to change. We got to get stronger, bigger, and faster. And they just haven't been able to acquire those pieces. They haven't been. But I will tell you this. And I don't think that Triliving would mind me sharing this. It was his first year as general manager of the Maple Leafs. And I don't know if you guys remember, but it was Marshawn and Timothy Lullagrand. And it wasn't good. It wasn't good. And there really wasn't much of a response on that play either. And there was either a team meeting called or Triliving took advantage of a team meeting and said, this will never happen again on my watch.
8:10Doesn't happen. If a teammate is taken out, then it's your responsibility as a fellow teammate to do what's right. And show a response and be a good teammate. And to be fair, last night was the first time that I recall where we've seen it as glaring and as blatant as that. So look, I mean, I don't know what Keith Pelley who's now the boss of Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment views that play, lack of response. I'm going to guess that like everybody else, fans and media, coach and management, didn't love it. But they've got to look at the bigger picture. And there should be a full organizational review at the end of the year. Where that's where I want to get to. Hold on, like Pelley needs to be part of that review. 100% because he can't watch his hands and go, no, okay, no, I'm still the boss here. I get to determine the fate of Brad Triliving
9:12and Craig Rubin, the coaching staff. You know, I think it's been bad enough this year that if you're doing that forensic audit in review, then do it. Do it. But start at the top and work your way down. I believe he's a year in, is that right? Because he had his opening press conference and he basically said, winning is the only thing that matters. Like, yeah, really, I don't really care for anything of subtitles. And you know, well, you're the long way away from that. He's a guy that's bouncing around sports media. I think he did some stuff over the year in tour. Like if he's doing an audit, who's helping him? He's not run a hockey club before if I'm correct. Right. It's a good question. And, you know, is that help internal under the umbrella of a bell and Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment? Yeah, I mean, there's some experience voices there. Not people who have run a national hockey league organization. But, you know, I think that given the circle of people that he would associate outside of his work environment.
10:15Oh, I don't think there'd be a shortage of opinion to tell me lots of people who have some ideas. But I always say the same thing, guys. It doesn't matter if it's Toronto or if it's Calgary or any team in the national hockey league, any sport. When you're firing managers and firing coaches, who's ready or able to step in that you can guarantee is going to be better. And if Keith Pelley is around and he's making those changes to his hockey operations, then isn't that really the definition of that decision? You're promising your bosses that, okay, we're going to pay Craig Baroube up for the remainder of his deal. Likewise, Brad, you're loving. Okay, good luck, fellas. But you're no longer wanted or needed here. We're bringing in this person or these people to take your jobs. Well, it's up to Pelley to say, they're going to be better. And they're going to take us back to the promised land. And, you know, I always say it.
11:16I, you know, I get all the time in the world for Peter to bore as an NHL head coach. I do. I think he's, he's in that elite class of being an NHL head coach. He hasn't won. He hasn't won. He had a superb team in Dallas and, you know, had his own chat with the game of Jake Gottenger, doubled down on a two, three days later and he's not a work. You know, so, you know, to somebody pop up in the offseason, I don't know. And I'd say the same thing of management. It's not easy replacing NHL general managers, especially in a Canadian market and a market that has the volume of media and, and faces and voices that Toronto has. And again, if we're talking about the future of the club and you're talking about a GM and a coach, like, if you're interviewing guys, like, well, what am I working with here? Like, do we have Austin Matthews? Am I allowed to trade Austin Matthews? If I say I want to tear this down to build it up, am I now not on the short list? Like, yeah, they have to figure out what the heck they're doing long term because you would agree. And if you keep them around, I don't know how you get enough assets
12:22around them in the next three, four years, they've traded most of the top prospects and picks. Yeah. And look, I would say that there's an undercurrent of concern. And I don't know that it's concerned that Brad Trillibinger Keith Belliav or Craig Baroube has. I would just say collectively out there that maybe Quinn Hughes as an NHL superstar as blazed the trail here for these players who have the clout to look at their contract and go, okay, well, I'm a year out. Okay, I'm not going to do economic. David did and extend now. I'm going to tell you two years in advance of my contract expiring that I'm probably not going to extend. And if you're not good with that, that doesn't sit with you as an organization. Okay, then bring me your trade options. But here is the list of teams that I'd be willing to consider going to. And maybe that list is one or two teams, right?
13:25But it's almost the new wave and just a fortunate few players have that type of clout. Let's be honest here. Austin Matthews definitely has that level of clout. Connor McDavid, of course he does. So it doesn't it feel like based on what we saw from Hughes. And look, Vancouver got a hell of a return for Quinn Hughes. So if you're Toronto and you're not sure that you can turn this ship around as quickly as you would need to to satisfy Austin Matthews, then that would have to be considered. If Matthews, in fact, shares that sentiment and I don't know that he will, I think he needs to see action in the off season and he needs to see promise that this team is going to be better. And look, we talk about a lot in this market. And much has been made. He scored last night. Nice goal. Got a bit lucky to be fair. But it went in the net, right? And then we make a lot of the scoring growth that he just came out of.
14:25And you look at the data and you show, look, he's had this many shots on net in his last 10 games or whatever it is. Okay, but you're talking about an elite level goal score who isn't scoring goals, despite the fact that he's got these chances. And he can sing the media about, hey, I'm still upbeat and confident because I'm getting these chances. You know what he doesn't get? The elite grade A opportunities that were put on his stick a number of times a night by Mitch Martin, an elite level playmaker. So again, that's just another layer of the retool if that's what we want to call it. You know, I mean, if Matthews is going to stay in Toronto longer term, then Toronto's got to do a better job of finding better players to play with this man. That's just playing in some. Okay, well, Swiss Gears from Matthews to McDavid, the Oilers had a big win against Colorado, not without controversy a few nights ago. Last night in Dallas against the hottest team, riding an incredible undefeated streak. Yeah, it was ugly. Touchdown Cowboys, they put up a seven spot
15:26and Connor was getting physical. Tristan Jari, after his debut in Pittsburgh where he beats Skinner and hey, all the problems just saw one game. Has been the worst goal in the NHL in goals against and 58 at a 60 eligible goal. Qualified goalies in the safe percentage. It has not been all the fix they thought. No, and look, I mean, the naysayers and, you know, people who lean on the eye told you, so we'll see or say at the end of the year whenever that is for the Oilers, while even though Baldwin tried to develop, you know, just a change, different for the sake of being different in goal that didn't work and he didn't correct it. And so he doubled down on a mistake. And I'm not going to be in that chorus. I'm not, you know, it's hard to upgrade your goal to position in season. And I know Colorado did it a couple of years ago. But I mean, they kind of found lightning in a bottle, didn't they? When they made the double goalies change in Colorado,
16:27that doesn't happen very often. It just doesn't. So you go the changes scenery approach and it does not work. It hasn't worked for Tristan Jari. But do you, do you spend good assets on again, taking a flyer on a gold tender? Or do you try and nail down two areas that you're pretty certain are going to be upgraded in Karamurthy and in Jason Dickinson? And look, if I'm being honest, I would say that I, I appreciate what Baldwin did here. Now he had to cover up mistakes. Yeah, that were made in Japan. Yeah, you know, I mean that, but the, but the every manager has to do that. There isn't a manager in the NHL, the most decorated that bats a thousand. It's impossible. It's impossible. So I do think that he improved to other areas. And because of that, I still think they believe in time. And it has to be between now and the end of the regular season that those two pieces are going to help the overall defensive structure of the team, which is going to help take heat off of Tristan Jari
17:29and the gold tender of the others. But fellas, it's not that simple either. I mean, when I look at that blue line, you don't just put Connor Murphy on that blue line and say, okay, well, now they're better. Well, one piece doesn't make you whole. It makes you better in a certain area, like penalty kill as an example. Darn Elmerce needs to be better. They all need to be better. And inexplicably, you know, Evan Bouchard is one of those players. And granted, he's been much better, I would say, since above the midpoint of the year. He has that big game ability, especially in the playoffs to flip the switch. Where if you get Evan Bouchard all year long, he's winning Norris trophies. I mean, let's just call it the way we see it because that's accurate. They need all those guys to step up. Otherwise, their season isn't going to go very deep into the playoffs. When you look at Dallas and you look at Colorado and you look at Minnesota. And if the Vegas Golden Knights can figure it out, there's something going on there. If they can figure it out,
18:30then I'd put the Euler's fifth on that list, which is crazy when you look at the level of success they've had over the past few seasons. What do you know what the nature of Ingram's injury? Is there a timeline we have yet or not? I don't think so. I don't think it's an official timeline. I mean, that was a not a scary incident per se. We just don't see it very often anymore, right? Where guys just go that hard to the net. So the only thing I was given, which is very unscientific and non-medical, is we just have to wait and see how it plays out. So specifically what they're dealing with, I honestly don't know that it's just one thing, but... Hi, friends. Sean Linda from Two Black Guys with Good Credit here. Whether you're running a non-profit at school or a small business, one more business here to support your mission. They make it easy to order what you need. From tech and cleaning supplies to everyday essentials. All at low prices and with helpful tools like
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20:35with four trades or whatever it was. Maybe give us a little peek into your Friday and then if you want to pivot from that into what Craig Conn or I accomplished in a week and what it tells us about the flames moving forward. Well, I mean, obviously disappointed the volume or lack thereof. And normally we have a pretty good read on what trade deadline day is going to be like. And more often than not, it's like it was Friday. It was slow, right? It was slow. Based on the volume of players and the appetite for trades, I thought that Friday was going to be way busier. Twice, maybe three times as busy, to be fair. And I still don't have a full read on why it didn't come to fruition. I think there are a couple of financial factors in play here. Fewer teams needed cap space and because of that, even those teams that had cap space weren't in a position to trade it off because it wasn't needed, right?
21:35So there wasn't as much of that as was expected. And yet some big, big pieces in play, right? And a couple of them belong to the St. Louis Blues in Robert Thomas and Colton Paraco. And neither one of those players was moved. And then you flip it over to Calgary. And I'm sure you got the same feedback, but the messaging from the flames to us, Friday after the deadline, was they had a number of amazing offers. That was the word that Craig Conn wrote used to me in describing the level of interest in Zach White Cloud. Amazing offers and good offers on Blake Coleman, but not great offers. So if you're getting amazing offers on a player, then why wouldn't you trade that player? And the reasoning is sound, whether the fan base can appreciate it or not. It's the value in White Cloud and En Coleman, but White Cloud specifically to a young developing defense. So he's going to have a mentoring role.
22:36He's still a very, very effective demon. So his presence has a leader for the Calgary flames, but also in the community, right? And how he's quickly been adopted by the community. And you know what? I've got time for that, guys. I do not every trade has to be a trade whereby, okay, it's can't miss or you can't lose. I mean, sometimes you don't make a trade for personal reasons, not just the assets that are coming back the other way. And I think that that's what it boils down to in those decisions made by a Conroying company. And so now let's quickly shift over to the deal that did happen. And that was Nazum Cadre to the Colorado have lunch. And let me tell you this. So right up until three o'clock Eastern, Darren Ferris who represents Nazum Cadre was losing his lid. Because he didn't think that there was a deal in place.
23:39He didn't think that a deal was going down. And he thought that Naz was going to have to stick out the ear with the Calgary flames. That's not the worst thing in the world, right? But he knew that Cadre would be disappointed. Everybody knew. We talked about lots of times on the show about him wanting to go to a contending team. And let's be fair and frank. It was Colorado all along that he wanted to go to. But when Chris McFarland, you know, did the about face and then traded for Neckwaw, it seemed very unlikely that they were going to turn back on Cadre. And I've heard a couple of things that are of interest that some of the players in Colorado may have talked to McFarland. I'll do respect to Neckwaw. Like he's a nice ad for the abs. But the history with Nazum Cadre, the fit that they see or saw in Colorado, all of that. I think McFarland was encouraged to get back at Craig Connery. And he did. And he did Friday morning. And I think that Connery did way better in that trade than he would have in the summer.
24:43I don't think there's any question about that. I agree. Any other details about it? Like it was weird. We did a live stream that was four hours. And we basically spent three and a half hours losing our minds. They had to move cadre because look at the market for centers. Brady Shen got what? Neckwaw got what? How are you sitting on this asset? Like he's 35. You just 36 in the fall. Do not be caught holding the bag. Let him go chase another championship. It's a win for everyone. Ever get some great player. He gets to go try to win another cup. You get to turn around this ship a little quicker because you're getting assets now and not later. And then the storm deal comes out and you're like, Hi, this is Pablo Tore from Pablo Tore finds out. And today I want to talk to you about boost mobile because we spent a lot of time analyzing inefficiencies in sports, overvalued contracts, money tied up in the wrong places, and so on. But those inefficiencies aren't just on a roster. Sometimes they're in your own monthly expenses. Boost mobile says switching to their $25 unlimited forever plan can unlock up to $600 in savings a year.
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27:51centerman that's making five and a half if you're keeping in Nazim. They tweeted out to the old chimney of the small piters Basilica or whatever, the new pope, new pope. Something's happened here. We got new news. Was that it for you where you saw that? And you're like, okay, this is happening. Yes, that 100% right. But, you know, look, I mean, the flames managed with rightly so were buttoned down. They, like, to a man they were buttoned down. And I think it's because they were working on the nuance of the trade. And I, I don't think that there was ever a hard no or not retaining salary, but I think it was preferred, of course, that Calgary wouldn't have to retain. So when you agree to the place where you're taking on the 20% coming back, okay, well, what's the value of that? Right. And so even though a trade conversation picked up, because a lot of it would have been discussed before McFarland went to Toronto and acquired Nicaragua,
28:52well, that's the starting point. And it has to be a little bit different because Colorado didn't have the same assets to provide, right? So I think you just took the better part of the day to iron it out and to figure it out. And I think why Ferris was upset was Calgary knew that he was, he would go to Calgary. Yeah, for a destination. Yeah, he would have went to Montreal, like, you know, but Montreal needed more. I think Montreal needed like 40 or 50% retained. And that felt like basically a non-starter. And I don't really know how deep they went into that pool. I think Carolina was one of the teams early in prior to Friday. And my understanding is I don't think Calgary wanted to go to, to Carolina. That's fair. I mean, again, that's why players have no trade clauses. So, you know, to get back to how this deal got done, I just, I think that the framework was there based on the negotiations they had prior, but because of the salary retention and the nuance of it,
29:55it just needed the better part of the day to get it finalized. I got a couple, Darren, for you. This is, this, the prefaces NFL related, but I hope that there's a story here. So Max Crosby, who was an all pro defensive end, was driving to the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore does the physical. He's recovering from a torn MCL, and they rescind that they pivot on the trade, and they go get another rush end, because either the internal pressure or the public pressure, because they gave up a couple of first round picks from him. In your experience, what was the biggest, or what is the most prominent trade that never happened, or that was rescinded, you know, at the 11th hour, similar to Max Crosby's level in the NFL, which is an all pro rush end. Yeah, I got one. Oh, go here in town. And it was probably one of your old colleagues. I think he got suspended for it. They're a trade of Jerome McGinnla to the Boston Bruins. Confirmed. Remember Aaron Ward?
30:56Fair that, like, if I'm reading T-Leaves, that was the trade. And then when they did double back to Jerome, who said he'd go to Boston or Pittsburgh, he was like, I just talked to Sid. I kind of want to go to Pittsburgh. I mean, well, that didn't do. And yeah, like not to throw anybody onto the boss. I mean, Wardo was a great sport about that. And he took it between the eyes. He wasn't wrong in the moment, right? In the moment that. But I remember being in the studio when that was all shaking down. And I was on the main panel, but I was there. And I was trying to communicate to those guys. Like, I literally had Peter Alley on the other line saying, that is he's not going there. He's not going, don't report that yet. Hold on. It's not, and I'm trying to wave my arms. Hold on. And then you had to be confirmed. So that's definitely one of them. There's no question about that. I mean, for me, the most recent experience was what we went through, called
31:56Paraco, the St. Louis Blues, right? And yeah, it was a weird one. Weird in the sense that, you know, I knew that the trade had been agreed to. I knew the details of the trade. I reported on X that there was an agreement in place. It was believed to deal was going to be done between St. Louis and Buffalo, pending player approval, etc. While Colton Paraco had to wave. Now, anybody who knows Colton Paraco and I don't, I just, I know his agent, Jerry Johansson very well. And he jokes about this and he'd probably tell the story. But he said, Colton is one of those guys who, you know, he goes for coffee. You know, he'll stand and look at the 65 selections and then it'll take him 10 minutes. Like, do I want a latte? Do I want an Americana? Oh, you know what the child is? So he looks pretty good up there. You know, like he does. But I know, it's just, you know what? Some people are wired that way. So for, you know, I look,
32:58and then you'll get other agents who say, you know, don't bring us a deal to and ask us to wave unless you've got a deal and you're asking us to wave. So some agents and players with no moves and no trades don't want to be part of the process. They don't. Others are like, in this case, Paraco, hey, a Paraco at a three, four day head start. And St. Louis came to him and said, look, we get, there's a couple of teams kick and tires. Here are the two teams that are kick and tires. I believe it's more likely that Buffalo is going to make an offer that we're going to like. So give this some thought. I'm not saying I'm coming to you and asking you to wave. But I'd like you to, I'd like you to give it some thought. And that just didn't happen. That wasn't the direction that the Blues took with Paraco. And he got hit over the head with it. Wasn't upset. He just couldn't make a decision in the timeline that Yarmul Kikalainen and the Buffalo Sabers needed him to make it. And so he had to decline.
33:59So that's, that's different. That's not injury related. But it's, you know, and people are pissed off because, you know, I didn't want to report it. And his, his name shouldn't have been reported. Well, that happens all the time in the NFL and the NBA and all, you know, like the transparency that exists in other sports, you know, makes the national actually look amateur at a bunch of different levels when it comes to this kind of stuff. But that's definitely one that went off the rails with the last second while we hope you're well-rested. That's a crazy week that you had last week. I hope you've, you've got lots of meat smoking in the backyard, a hyper-barric chamber, insiders. Lay down your phones. You may now rest. Well, I hate, but NHL GM meetings next week in Florida. So I'm actually flying a Florida on Sunday. So if you've, I haven't seen the agenda. Colin Campbell is ahead of hockey operations
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