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Team USA almost suffered an embarrassing exit to the World Baseball Classic. But thanks to Vinnie Pasquantino and Team Italy’s espresso machine, Team USA lives to fight another day. Derek and Rok discuss if Team USA even cares, how good of a game Dominican Republic vs Venezuela was, and what they’re looking forward to in the quarterfinals.
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1:17better send Vinnie Pasquantino the biggest fucking gift basket they've ever sent to anyone maybe the entire Italian team because I need to have Nespresso make a Vinnie Pasquantino shape espresso machine that's what he did for them three home runs for ever man ever in a world baseball classic game Europe set because you wanted team USA to learn their lesson we are not fans of team USA on the show I we've been very clear about that we've been anti team USA but I know I just I would have loved the storyline that this super team that was assembled couldn't get out of pool play and they barely squeak by because the Italians are just fully Italian in right now and the Mexican problem nothing Italia is a problem bro they are a problem they're like sneaky good really they
2:21really are but my bigger problem is the colossal fuck up that was what happened with team USA absolutely absolutely and don't get me wrong like there are levels to this fuck up and then you have on top of that MLB trying to like delete the video of the interview of Mark Derosa on the MLB network talking and answering questions and saying in his own words in his own fucking words oh yeah they had already moved on without understanding the situation and we talked about this on the show today rock we talked about this on the show where let's be honest Mark Derosa was not the only person that thought this team had moved on because he discussed the pre-game press conference the party that went on by team USA yeah after beating team
3:26Mexico you do not party like that simply because you won a single world baseball classic pool play game motherfucker you party like that because you advance to the next round so while Mark Derosa might be at fault here and and and yeah very incompetent as far as that stuff goes I feel like he is not the only person on team that was convinced that they had moved on to the next round it's why the guys were dragging assets why we saw such poor play they're against Italy that game ended up being an 8 to 6 victory summer the USA was just fucking giving runs away early they were down 8 to nothing you know like this was just mismanagement from the time he was on the but I guess mismanagement from the time they beat Mexico from the moment that game ended all the way up until basically where you and I sit right now where they should be thinking
4:29they're lucky stars that they are advancing to the quarterfinals after Italy beat the breaks off of Mexico tonight they should have the same mentality that Kobe had in that playoff in finals run where the guy asked him about the game that the one game that they won and Kobe's response was job ain't done that game against Mexico to team USA yeah you guys were happy you won that game but you know what the job wasn't done and it blows my mind that nobody from the top to the bottom yeah okay so about the rules are how this works and again we've taught you and I have talked many many times about how our group chat gives us so much clarity everybody should have a group chat like you and I have multiple friends that we have in it yes where they are willing to destroy you as a human being in order to get their point across that you might be wrong in this situation right marked a Rosa needed a group chat marked a Rosa needed the unsafe safe space he
5:31needed friends that saw him on the MLB network and ripped his ass he needed a dozen plus text messages from friends going you fucking fraud you think you moved on have you not been do you not look at basic standings do you not look at the news do you not even listen to the broadcast because how does how does Derosa not have a group chat with like him Harold Reynolds Matt Baskurgeon right where it's double be network buddies right 100% I'll tell you this much I mean this might this might be a foregone conclusion because I don't think they would they would have brought him back for next go round of the word WBC the next go round sure if team USA loses somehow Derosa's got to go well yeah I mean there's no question that there's no question all right but I mean again I think it's easy to blame Derosa he later said he missed spoke which no you didn't you said that so confidently and so sure I mean rocket goes beyond that he
6:36fucking benched Bryce Harper Alex Breggman Cal Rally Bryce Tarrang none of these fucking guys were in the lineup don't tell me that you miss spoke yeah yeah you had Clayton fucking Kershaw warming up in the bullpen when Mason Miller hadn't fucking pitch jet and you were going to put him in there with bases loaded yeah Clayton Kershaw it's not just it's not just pregame right it was management of the game in the game that told you that Mark Derosa thought this team had already advanced and that this win or loss against italy italy was meaningless yeah and that is just crazy because again and I guess this was the point I was trying to get around to even I'm screaming and yelling about lineups how did somebody how did nobody tell him how did nobody tell him how did nobody discover that this was incorrect between the time that he said those words on the MLB network all the way up until the start of the baseball game against italy like how were
7:40they're not changes made why did they not pivot I mean italy already is proving to be a very good baseball team on the way that they handled team Mexico and again there's only reason why USA is now advancing is because team Italy is and this and this is honestly this is one of the great things about the world baseball classic as you get a team that's not completely stacked top to bottom with superstar is like like Dominican USA these guys like italy yeah italy's got some MLB guys but their entire roster is not MLB come on Vinnie Pasquantino is like the most notable guy or Noah and Jack can't be on that can't be on yeah yeah absolutely I mean aside from that like you got other guys that are like they're gonna after this is over they're gonna go home to their real job to their career and do what they do and that's the beauty of this shit it's just it's the beauty of baseball it's the fucking beauty of baseball man but it's it's it's the beauty of this tournament the fact that we have guys that are factory workers playing against Aaron judge we have 17-year-old kids
8:42pitching to Aaron judge and getting him out right like that shit is so cool and that's what makes this tournament great but I mean now what people are accusing the USA of is not taking the shit seriously right and they don't and I mean it goes beyond just the mistake that's being made here right you also have Tarek schoolable returning to the Tigers and not participating anymore you have the fact that they do have some dominant pictures as part of their starting rotation but should they make it to the semi-finals or the championship probably none of those guys are going to be pitching boy yeah you're not gonna get a Paul Schienz is Schienz going to give them one more stars and I think Schienz is going to give them one more but like I think the way that it shapes up is that Nolan McLean who started here against Italy would be their starter should they make to make it to the championship game which no longer seems like a foregone conclusion right because do you have a problem with schoolable electing to not stick around for one more start yes I do you do okay yes I do because I think that if you're committed to this you're committed to
9:42this to see it through it's the reason why the Japanese team is such a good team they are not here just yeah as a goodwill tour and and and they've never been I feel like Japan has always sent literally their best players in the world no matter where they played as a part of their team to dominate this tournament and it's the reason why they're the only multi-time winner and it's the reason why they're still the big bad for the WBC because their lineup is still better than everyone else's their pitching staff is still better than everyone else's and more importantly you don't have Shohei Otani leaving in the middle of the tournament because he's already taken his 25 at bats which by the way I still find it fascinating that Otani couldn't get insured to pitch but he still was able to get insured to go there and hit right so there's that aspect there's definitely I mean there's there's I mean the the risk from hitting is I mean significantly less well no it's just the the insurance rules are so that based on his injury that
10:48he had due to pitching he didn't twice he's done this to his elbow yep it's a it's the what do they call you see different injuries you can have an injury you could have missed things or no I mean they call it a what do they call it a re reoccurring injury or persistent injury or whatever the case may be right but it's it's again it's it's insurance trying to find ways to you know turn guys down and not especially not have to be imaginative they had to pay Otani salary not just for one year but for four years yeah and that's where I mean I understand the business side of what Tara scruples doing this man is either going to get a long-term contract during the season or he's going to get traded and get a long-term deal so he's got a lot to risk and I get it it's WBC so I don't totally fault him for what he's doing it's it's it's for team USA yeah I mean I just I don't know I mean these are the reasons why team USA is receiving
11:48criticism versus how important this tournament seems to the other teams of the of the country right or of the world I should say and and and the USA this situation was just embarrassing like they looked out they they walk away without you know being eliminated from this tournament but this was an extremely embarrassing situation not just the mistake made by Rosa but the the fact the fact this team was out there partying after beating team Mexico because they didn't know next day's game was so important and then they come out flat and unfocused and looking awful against Italy and Italy is already a good enough team that you can't do that with but yeah you can't dig around and you just have all sorts of things that are a bad luck the the sadly sadly Mexico also found out that you know Italy doesn't play around the night so that's very true and I'm not thrilled I'm not thrilled about I thought Honestly and already I think Mexico looked pretty flat today too yeah I don't know what I don't know what I don't know what it was
12:51that I I was expecting a much better showing from team Mexico but I mean aeronol was dealing a Nola was dealing early he was dealing so I mean they didn't get they didn't get off to a good start and then I mean and then the pivot to the other game our boy best second basement and baseball baby you see you can tell Marta's nuke that he hit oh yeah the the the the downside of that is he hit that nuke off of aeronol may have talked about that part we don't need to focus on that we'll just I mean I mean it's like it tells me to be honest the Dominican you know the Republican Dominican I was smashing baseball today Vladie smacked on Toddie hit one the it's been a show it was it was a it was a good game they beat Venezuela by score seven to five yes both teams advanced I there was a point in time where I was like shit watch Venezuela fucking walk these boys off because the dr's pitching is not and they're strong suit sure I think that's probably safe to be
13:57said about a lot of the teams oh yeah I think the back end of the USA bullpen is probably the best made well maybe Japan Japan US probably have the best bullpen in the game right now but but I'm I'm more concerned about team USA's starting pitching oh of course yeah outside of guys named school and stands right yeah plus again starting Paul Goldschmidt who is the fifth worst batter the fifth worst qualified batter against right-handed pitching against the right-handed pitcher in that a game versus Italy still baffling to me but yeah El Marte by the way 107.4 mile per hour off the bat went 403 feet and smoke that ball it's great to see Katel I mean he hasn't been having a great WBC neither is Jerry but from a diamond backs perspective what I will say is hey at least if you're going to have bad games get him out now yeah get get it figured out
14:58get warmed up and then come out red hot for the for the regular season hey so before we pivot to the matchups for Friday Saturday did you realize that if Mexico actually would have won an advance today that the round one matchup would not have been the dr versus Korea it would have been the dr versus Japan yes yeah brother changes things significantly the way the way the way that whole bracket thing works out with the qualifier or the quote so crazy it's like I mean I don't hate the way that they did the run thing with this tournament either like tonight was exciting because if Italy wins or if Mexico won but scored four runs or fewer yeah got Italy advancing if they scored five runs or or more you have USA advancing the game goes an extra innings that changes so like that lower that lower zero overall right math of it right but team USA luckily
16:02advances and hopefully they that you know this mistake they made was the wake up call that they needed that you know you can't one take any of these teams lightly and two fucking pay attention to the goddamn schedule what the fuck I mean and speaking of you know taking teams likely the night game on Friday it's it's game two it's USA versus team Canada and Canada ain't no slouch either no no they're not I mean all of these teams that are left have significant MLB players on them yes and on any given night their lineup could match up with any of the favorites what is as well who plays for team Korea that I'm missing is it the dude from the Giants June yeah okay yeah the the grandson of the wind is that his nickname that's his nickname yeah that's the fucking greatest nickname in the history of nicknames yeah his I didn't know that that's phenomenal
17:03yeah his grandfather was like or his father was like the son of the wind so he's now the grandson of dog your nickname is the grandfather of the wind brother and so on and he's pretty electric man and then again there's there's good players I think high song Kim from the Dodgers is on there yeah as well so yeah I mean they have some dogs and you know I think the one thing is his that Korea in Japan both have players who we've never heard of in some cases who might just be as good or better than I mean any MLB player you know I mean Korea's got I mean I mean they got the they got the DR that's the early games for Friday afternoon 3 30 our time Korea DR followed by USA I mean Friday nights incredible but then you got Saturday your boys team Puerto Rico baby versus Italy Italy that's a tough matchup I will say this that Italy's offense has been incredible and I believe the Puerto Rico team has the best ERA in the world baseball classic so
18:06that's pitching staff essentially going up against the best offense and then the night game Saturday team Venezuela versus samurai Japan yeah that's that's wild Venezuela's lineup is crazy underrated yeah no I didn't realize how dope that lineup wasn't like actually I was like oh shit I didn't know you were on his way but I didn't know you were like oh okay yeah we got Jackson Churrio you got you know Romulo Kunyu Junu you got the Cone Treras brothers like there's a lot going on there that's exciting for that team and yeah that team is that team is good man they hung tonight right like they hung tonight with the Dominican Republic so I mean I anything can happen and that's the that's a crazy part about this is being a single elimination tournament in baseball like any given day any team can be better than another team like there's no sport I think that is like that more you could say that about football you could say that about basketball but like baseball truly it's the reason why they play series instead of just playing one game sets right it's because
19:12typically you want to prove who's the best two out of three rather than leaving it up to just oh hey we played one game because anybody in baseball can be good on it bro we uh we got six more days that is greatness I know and then it's back and then it's back to regular old spring training which is great too but I mean no it's not you're fucking lying I mean I'm lying but I mean too expensive yeah well I can't wait for the regular season that's what I can't wait for they can't get here fast enough coming soon we can see this diving backs team that we've kind of seemed scattered all over the place back together as one uh and I hope when all is said and done that this uh this whole WBC experience was just you know ultimately good for for our our guys to get there to get get get their games ready for the season I mean that's really what this is about I mean this is the first time we've had this many players on the you know 26th man roster participating in the WBC so that means it's four is it four of our four of our every day starting field and
20:16outfield players are starting well our entire infield yeah essentially right first day second are you are you right yeah Santana because today Santana are not a Nolan Jerry yeah and then young Alec out in um Jesus wow yeah yeah and I'll be back and then we also have Erod Michael Sorroca out there who both will be continuing on in the court in the quarterfinals so both of those those guys will still be where their teams as well but man imagine how great I love it I can't wait for this weekend bro no hey you you already know what I'm doing so yeah plopping your ass down in front of a TV I mean 28 straight hours of how you get me you you're giving me a early a noon game and then a six o'clock game so I got time for a little nap in between and then it's prime time baseball Japan then as well and that's going to be a game well cannot wait to talk with you about it after all it's said and done and a winner has been determined so we'll be back here next week of course you guys know where to find us I am at cap underscore
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