Cory Booker Face Plants in Disaster Interview...Again

Why do members of the Democratic Party have such a hard time saying, Benjamin Netanyahu

is a war criminal?

Israel has committed war crimes.

They have committed a genocide.

Why can't they start with facts?

And then from there, discuss what policies beyond that support, no support.

A lot of people in the Democratic establishment cannot say this.

And you may remember, I had that viral moment with Senator Cory Booker last year regarding

this issue.

And now he's gone on pod save American.

Our friend John Levit has asked him a very similar question, play the clip.

To call Benjamin Netanyahu, say a war criminal.

What happens if you do?

What goes, what changes by just saying, I believe Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal.

And that signals what our sort of moral parameters are for the kind of leadership in Israel

we view as susceptible.

This is not a political test for me.

Benjamin Netanyahu is a horrible person who enabled October 7th and has failed to take

accountability.

Remember, he knew about the Qataris funding this horrific terrorist organization, Hamas.

He knew about that.

He allowed that funding to continue as failed in that sense.

He has within his own administration people that are committing atrocities right now in

the West Bank.

As we've seen over these last few weeks, I have no problem calling him out and saying that

he should be held accountable for any crimes that he's been committed.

My focus and has been consistently before October 7th is trying to be a force as a member

of the Foreign Relations Committee.

Okay.

All right.

Pam, so what's your take on that?

My take on that is he's a coward and that he is not calling him a war criminal.

He's dancing around it so that he can still backtrack on it when he is able to forgive

the crimes that have been committed.

I mean, that's what it tells me he's a fucking coward.

I think it's interesting that he might take as that he will not say Benjamin Netanyahu

is a war criminal because then he has to buy inference there and that the Israel has committed

war crimes.

Right.

He danced around the West Bank and he talked about Netanyahu enabling October 7th, but

he refuses to say, you know, look, Israel is committed to genocide.

These are our war crimes, human rights violations that shocked the conscience.

And we have to, in my opinion, have an opposition party.

We have to have a fucking opposition party to all of this insanity.

And if we cannot start the conversation off by stating facts, Benjamin Netanyahu is

a war criminal, Israel commits war crimes and then discuss policy and funding beyond that.

The democratic party is the party that does the same thing over and over again and it expects

a different result.

That's just, that's my opinion on this.

And so obviously, Benjamin Netanyahu, this photo is from July 9th, 2025.

And this is where Cory Booker is playing peekaboo over there and you got, you know, lion

Ted up there front and center, but you have a lot of other Democrats here too.

You've got Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Chris Coons and others.

And so there's this whole thing right now in the democratic party where we have what I call

the establishment.

And in my opinion, they are preservationists.

They want to preserve the system that they govern and Cory Booker wants to preserve his

status.

And I think Cory Booker is a fascist collaborator.

Benjamin Netanyahu, aside from being a war criminal, is a fascist.

I mean, this is a fascist government.

And these other Democrats are fascist collaborators.

And now, after the loss, Kamala's loss, it's like, all the Democrats need to go on

podcasts.

They need to be less scripted.

We can't have canceled culture anymore, et cetera, et cetera.

And I don't know what your online feed is look like, but mine for the last two weeks

is like, we need to cancel Hassan Piker and it's all of these moderates and centrist

that want to cancel Hassan Piker.

Sometimes what's your take on all that?

Here's my take.

I have long been someone that only develops new ideas and evolves in my thought when I am

challenged and when I listen to the perspective of others.

And so then I take my perspective and that person's perspective and then I find what I think

is the best.

And I do not believe that people get better and or policy gets better if criticism is

not shared and integrated and perspectives evolve.

And I do not think you can have that if you want to silence anyone that disagrees with

you.

And you know who else doesn't who agrees with me on that is magna because they allow

for no dissent within their party.

So I think what's going on with Hassan Piker is an embarrassment to the democratic establishment

and all the people that are perpetuating it.

Okay.

So John Loveitt in this interview with Cory Booker asked him about whether he would appear

on Hassan Piker's stream.

Play the clip.

Chris, you said and it's just one person, but it's part of a large group of I think

people that have this point of view that you wouldn't say go on like Hassan Piker's stream

because he's said some heinous and stupid shit in the past.

But to me, I would expect you'd be like chopping at the bit to say, you know what?

Of course I'm going to go there because I want to represent this point of view in a place

that doesn't normally hear it.

And I want to talk about the ways in which I think some of the things he said are offensive

the same way you might want to go confront somebody on Fox News or you've met with talk

to Newt Gingrich and he said crazy shit in the past too.

So maybe part of the way out of this is for someone like you to go to those spaces even

if there have been things that are offensive to people.

Yeah.

So first of all, somehow we're having a much more deeper and personal conversations

than I thought.

So I'm going to be very candid with him.

Gotcha.

God, I always want to talk to you about deep things.

No, I appreciate that.

Okay.

Let's stop it right there.

So this, when I saw this clip, this struck me.

Number one, the first thing that strikes me is that Cory Berker will take a photograph

with Benjamin Netanyahu in the middle of genocide.

That draws the line with going on the song, Piker's Twitch.

But the second thing that struck me there was when Cory Berker said, oh, this conversation

is much deeper than I thought.

And I'm going to let you all in on a little secret.

When we filmed with Cory Berker, after common laws, all of the Democrats came to us.

We want to be on your pod.

We want to be on your pod.

And we're like, great.

Yeah, you can be on our pod.

I don't have a corporate news background.

So I ask questions that I think are relevant.

And a lot of some Democratic politicians come on and they don't want to know what they're

talking about.

And they don't care.

They just want to talk about the country and whatever questions I have for them.

Others are a lot more scripted and controlled.

And Cory Berker's office, it's in our producers, Cory wants to talk about XYZ.

And I saw those talking points, but right out of the gate, so I asked him, what have you

had it with?

And he said, I've had it with corporate money.

And I was just like, bitch, please, you take like millions of dollars in APEC money.

So it led down that rabbit hole, right?

Because I was like, wait, wait, this seems hypocritical.

And instead of staying on the script that his office sent me, I went with his answer as

a normal conversation should.

Well, the whole time I'm asking about Benjamin Netanyahu, his office is stage five melting

down texting our producers, trying to get her to like, hey, we didn't agree to talk

about this blah, blah.

So my point in this is not to pick on Cory Berker or his staff.

They are operating the way they've always operated in corporate media.

That's the way it's been.

They were doing what they've always done.

The problem that's happening now is we have these spaces where people have realized their

politicians are bought and paid for and their news anchors are bought and paid for.

And everybody's, whether it's Republican or Democrat, wants independent voices and independent

spaces.

And so obviously that clip went viral.

His staff was melting down for reasons that they should have because it didn't make him

look that great.

But another person I've had come on who flew to New York to sit down with me for an hour

in person is Rokana.

And it was just what time and where was the only question beforehand?

There was no, what are we going to talk about?

He didn't care.

When he came in, I said, hey, let's do some Epstein stuff because Jennifer, whatever you

want to talk about, I am pleased to talk to your audience.

That's what Representative Rokana had.

So I think what I'm getting at here is when you have moral clarity, it doesn't matter

what John Levedashu, what Jennifer Welch asked you, you don't have to have your people

in the back.

Wait, what's going on here?

Or would Cory Baker have to say, oh, I didn't realize we were going to get this deep.

You would just come in and sit down and say, ask me anything on the planet you want.

I don't know if I'm going to have all the answers for you, but I'm going to try.

And that's what a lot of progressive Democrats do.

Needless to say, we don't hear from Senator Booker's office that much anymore, but welcoming

back on, I don't dislike Cory Booker.

I don't think he and a staff did anything particularly wrong.

That's how it's handled in corporate news.

But it seems to me like they want this whole thing pumps where it's like, okay, we need

to go on podcasts and we need to speak like normal people.

And then we need to get rid of cancel culture.

And now they're trying to cancel Hassan Piker.

We can take pictures with Benjamin Netanyahu and I like Cory Booker and that.

He's like, because another thing you think about, okay, we're going to go on podcasts.

We're going to be inscripted.

You can't go on a podcast and be inscripted if your staff is telling the podcasts what

the talking points are.

So yeah, talk unscripted and be open to anything.

I completely agree.

And so this is something where I feel like the Democratic establishment once they're

cake and they want to eat it too.

Of course.

We need to go on podcasts and talk like normal people, but oh, here's our normal people

talking points because normal people.

Here's your script.

Normal people to talk.

Conversation.

And then it's like, we've got to quit.

We've got to quit with this cancel culture.

And then Cory Booker's like, I draw the line with Hassan Piker, oh, BB's going to be

there.

Here I am.

And so it's just like, I think the thing that pisses me off about the Democratic establishment

is the condescending nature they treat us.

Like, nobody gives a shit.

If you go on Hassan stream, if you go on, I've had it.

If you go on Theo Vaughn, if you go on, I'm even saying right wingers.

If you go on what's his name, the little Joe Rogan, if you go on Joe Rogan, I don't give

a shit.

Not all of these podcasts, nobody gives a shit, but do not treat us with the abjects

stupidity that you are going to draw the line at Hassan Piker who has killed zero people.

And then go play peekaboo patty cake with Benjamin Netanyahu, who is an objective 100% killer.

The world's biggest killer of children right now is the IDF at the instruction of Benjamin

Netanyahu.

So that's where Cory is with all of this.

And then let me show you where Rogan is on this.

Play this clip for me at the press this weekend.

Have any regrets about appearing on his show?

None.

And I would go again.

But I, of course, condemn those comments.

I mean, I've described Hamas as a terrorist state.

And we need to unequivocally condemn anti-Semitism.

But Hassan Piker was at the DNC in 2024, covering Vice President Harris.

What should the standard of the Democrats be?

Should we not go on Theo Vaughan?

Should we not go on Sean Ryan?

Should we not go on Joe Rogan?

Should we just have these purity tests of canceling folks?

The lesson of the last election is we've got to be out there.

We've got to engage.

It's a complex, messy, multiracial democracy.

I will defend my views, but the people who are saying don't engage will cost us future

elections.

Do you run, I completely agree with him here.

And I think that what they should be saying is, instead of being focused on these specific

streamers or podcasters, let's focus on the actual war criminals.

Let's focus on, I think Theo Vaughan pretty much calls out Benjamin Netanyahu and the

government of Israel.

Pretty crystal clear, there's a lot of bipartisan reality-based people that see that.

The problem with the Democratic establishment is they want to preserve the system that

lost to Trump, and I don't want to preserve that.

I don't want any part of that.

We can talk about it.

The bulwark did a deep dive on this.

Sarah and Tim talked about it, but Rogan has weighed in.

Podsave guys have had Cory Booker weigh in.

Regardless, politicians do whatever you want to do.

But what do the Democrats, this system they're trying to uphold, these establishment Democrats?

What does the polling say?

Do the Democrats approve of Democrats right now?

Play the clip.

Congressional Dems have the right priorities.

Look at this.

Overall, 74%, nearly three in four say no.

Just 25% overall say yes.

You might say, okay, well, at least Dems like Democrats, not the case.

Look at this.

The majority of Democrats are independents who lean Democrats.

Look at this.

55% say no, congressional Democrats do not have the right priorities.

And then you just see a minority, 45% of Democrats say that congressional Democrats have the right

priorities.

This to me just jumps out of the screen because it screams primary challenges all over

the map.

And it says that even if Democrats don't like Donald Trump, they don't like their own

party either when it comes to Congress, and overall, I mean, Mike.

Do you see that?

Here's the thing.

These establishment Democrats are operating as though they have a super high favorability.

And they don't.

They simply do not.

They're so out of touch with where the base is right now.

If you want to see the approval ratings of the Democratic Party jump up, if they were

to say, okay, shimmer, hit the bricks, we're done with you, we're voting to get a new

minority leader.

And the same with Hawking Jeffries.

I mean, seriously, you would be like, oh my God, yes, finally, they're fighting.

And here's an anecdotal story for everyone.

My husband is from a small town called Hugo Oklahoma.

It's like the armpit of Oklahoma, this town, right?

And so he goes down there for a funeral, and this is Maga, Maga, Maga dump truck.

I mean, this is where it is just crazy called Maga.

He's down there for a funeral.

And much to his surprise, everybody's coming up to him saying, oh my God, your wife's

broadcast.

Tell her to stay after it and tell her to stay after those Democrats too.

They're not fighting hard enough for us.

So I just think, and of course, that's anecdotal, but also I have conversations, pumps you have

conversations with people in red states.

We want fighters.

We don't want people who play peekaboo with Benjamin Netanyahu.

We don't want people that can't say the sky is blue.

And the equivalent of saying the sky is blue right now is saying that Benjamin Netanyahu

is a fucking more criminal.

It's objectively true, pumps.

Well, I completely agree with you.

And the only thing I would add to that is we are going into a midterm where we know they

have gerrymandered, they intend, they have told us on national TV, they are going to put

eyes around these voting booths, they're trying to pass the save act.

So Democrats, people are going to vote for you because they don't like fascism.

But if you're not starting to fight now against all of these things that they've already said

they're going to do, if you're not filing lawsuits, if you're not coming out against us,

they are trying to put everyone in a position that they cannot vote, that their vote will

not be heard, and they are building a bunker underneath the ballroom, all that.

But we've got to start now making policy and going after politicians, and we have to

do that with clear eyes and with fighters because the midterms are coming and they're

coming quickly.

And if you can't get out there now, you're not going to help with yourself much then.

I just think the thing is a lot of these liberals are fascist collaborators and scholars

show us historically that liberals collaborate with fascists.

Never are you able to take down fascism from a point of centrism that has never happened.

We have to have an opposition party.

The centrist and the moderates, they pick me, people, the, oh my God, I won't go on his

son, Mike, or his podcast, but hey, VB say cheese, we're not going to beat fascism with

that.

So go on whatever podcast you want to or don't want to, but know this, look in the data.

You can try to cancel Hassan, you can try to cancel, I've had it.

What you're doing is you're telling millions of people that either watch that stream or watch

other shows that you don't like, that they're wrong.

And that's incredibly patronizing and condescending because what they see is the democratic response

is being wrong, weak, and impotent.

And the polling shows that, all right, that's all we have like, subscribe, we'll be back

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