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Jack thought he was doing alright — showing up, getting by, and trying to stay consistent. But deep down he knew he was capable of more. Through the Catholic Warrior brotherhood, Jack began building real discipline in his physical training, his prayer life, and his daily habits. What started as a challenge quickly became a way of life. In this episode, Jack shares how committing to the process helped him grow stronger, sharpen his faith, and become the man God is calling him to be. If you feel comfortable… but know you’re capable of more — this may be the wake-up call you need. Train with purpose. Build discipline. Become who you were made to be.
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The Catholic Warrior Podcast — Confidence Comes From Discipline — Jack’s Story. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
out. Look at that line's main and stash. Oh, it's getting crazy, man. Looks great, man. You look great, dude. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you? Dude, great, man. Thank you. It's been a while, morning, so far. I'm not gonna lie. I got like all kind of stuff stacked. So I appreciate you making some time, dude. I really do. Yeah, of course. Ready for the live sipper, right? All right, in the morning off, right? I'm saving the morning into Coke Zero, bro. Bro. Anyway, I got my little like little Dr. Phil list of questions. Hold on. Let me find it. And then we'll, uh, we'll dive in. All right, you ready? Let's start with the first. Here we go, bro. I named it the father and the son of the Holy Spirit, man. He'll marry full of grace. The Lord is with the Lester Thelm. The men's blessed is the spirit of Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now.
And they are our death, somebody. The name of the father and the son and the Holy Spirit. Um, man. All right, my man. So I'm gonna just kind of go through this list of questions. It's honestly my way of like doing testimonials now because I want, I want it to be like an interview kind of thing. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah. The first thing I want to ask, bro, I'll start here. Think back like where were you at in life before joining Catholic warrior? Um, very just kind of complacent. I felt like I was in the same spot for a long time and not really moving forward. Um, yeah, not where I wanted to be, but where I had settled. Got it. What, um, what do you think was the biggest thing you were struggling with before before you joined?
Honestly, probably the confidence. I think that's the biggest thing that I noticed like day to day. I was very, I guess like go with the flow even if that's not what I wanted to do. Yeah. Just they're like, well, I guess that's the way it is and then just move on with it. That's interesting, bro. I get that a lot, you know what I mean? And another thing I want to highlight too, especially with you, man, this is super important. Um, it's more rare when I talk to a guy initially that has the opposite problem of the normal problem and let me explain physically. Most of the guys I talked to, we got to lose body fat. You know what I mean? Like for yeah, we didn't have to really lose any body fat. It was more of like a struggle to gain lean muscle mass, you know what I mean? And so first off, like I can't wait for people to see the pics because it's
insane. The transformation that you made in six months, bro, which is it's unreal. But you know, I wanted to talk to you about that and just kind of pick your brain of that process. Like did you have any like real doubt as far as you get you gaining even this much progress physically before we started? Oh yeah, I didn't expect. Yeah, I didn't expect it really. I felt like I had honestly tried, you know, everything they tell you to try. Right. Um, so I did not expect it to be as drastic as it was or it is. Yeah, it is. That's very sure. You deal with it. You got the damn Dorito back now. That's so great, bro. So I mean, I was going to pick your brain here too. Like besides that, because I know that was a big one for us. Um, but were there any other like major doubts or fears that you had before joining? Um, I think the biggest thing was just feeling like, you know, that's that was as good
as I could get. That was the, you know, that was the top. You know, I knew I wanted to be better, but I didn't know if I could be. There you go. Yeah. So it was like a self-belief kind of thing. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. That's probably the most common one, dude. You know, I had a few calls yesterday. You know, we got to the very end of the call and you know, it's hard for me as a coach because I've seen it so many times. Like it's just pattern recognition for me. Like when I get on the call, I tell guys like, Hey, I'm sorry if it doesn't sound like I'm, you know, empathizing with your situation. It's just I know if you do XYZ, you're going to get this result. Right. Yeah. You know what I mean? And now you've experienced it. So you know what I'm talking about. But yeah, I mean, it's totally normal. I try to get this across the guys too. Like, dude, I know it's normal to have the fear or like hesitancy of like, damn, is this going to work out
because of the self-doubt? I think that's probably the more normal thing. You know, but I mean, when it was decision time, like, what made you say, you know, let's go for it? Um, I mean, I figured, you know, it's worth a shot. It's not like it's going to make it any worse, right? I respect that. Hey, you're making me sad. Effing. Yeah. Well, yeah. What other options are there? I love it, man. I appreciate that. But obviously, you had enough trust in me to be like, okay, this running, you know, so yeah, I mean, I had, I had followed you on Instagram for a while and I saw the, you know, work that you do. So I, it wasn't never had any doubt in you or your coaching abilities. Thank you, man. I appreciate that, Jack. Yeah, of course. And you know, I want to kind of break this down. But like, how do the program help you spiritually, mentally,
and physically? I think spiritually building those daily habits of the rosary and daily readings was the biggest thing. Because I mean, before I would, you know, pray the rosary every day when I remembered to. Yeah. But, you know, now it's a habit. First thing in the morning, pray the rosary. And then before bed, read the daily readings. And that's every day now. Yep. And that's, I think it's really helped, you know, strengthen that relationship with God and having that consistency. And then like I mentioned earlier, mentally, the confidence is the biggest thing. I don't. I don't second-guess myself or my ability is nearly as much as I did
before. And that's not just like on the physical aspect. That's with, you know, other things that work. Like, oh, I don't know if I can do this and be like, well, I don't know. I think I can. Let's try it. See what happens. Yep. And physically, I just feel so much better. I mean, it's, it's, you don't realize how big of a difference just feeling stronger will make on your day-to-day life. Yeah. You did it, man. You freaking did it, dude. In my case, it's, it's amazing to see, you know, it really is. Like, there's always this point. I tell you guys this all the time. There's a point where I can see it click. And then you guys just start running with it. And like, even probably your streaks, like your rosary streak was insane to watch every time. Like, here goes jack 130-day streak or whatever it is. It's like, it's amazing to see it. And then also, I think once
a gear start turning, because I know the confidence thing is a big thing for you too. Like, you guys start talking, when I notice you guys start talking to me differently, I'm like, aha, like, their confidence is up. Yeah. You guys, I can just see it. I'm like, oh, shoot. Like, he even is like the way he's speaking is different. It's amazing, dude. So if we think before and then now, right, like, how, how is life different? Like now for you compared to beforehand, if you can make that comparison? I think I'm starting to make the progressions in life that I wanted to be making before. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of moving in a different direction with work, which is what I wanted. I've been kind of unhappy with my job for a while. But I was, you know, felt stuck there. I'm moving, you know, forward in my relationship, which is something I really wanted to start working
on more last year, but I just never, never did just kind of floated through, which, you know, isn't fair to me or my partner. So I think I'm finally starting to make the progressions that I need to make in my life. Yeah. You think that's affected you there too, like in a positive way? Oh, for sure. Definitely. For sure. I can imagine that too. Well, good. So it sounds like better. Yeah. I'd say so. Yeah. That's good. So I mean, this is the real question. Is what people want to know? Was the investment worth it for you? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, it's honestly, you know, you hear the initial price, you're like, oh, that's a lot of money. I know. But yeah, it's, I mean, I don't think there's really anything better to invest in
than yourself. And if it's going to make you, it's going to make you happier. If it's going to make you stronger, if it's going to make you healthier, I'd say, you can't really put a price limit on that. You know what, man? Thank you for saying it. Like, it's hard for me sometimes to explain that to guys. And I get it because like, I know it's not cheap for sure on that. But like beforehand, when you can't see it, like, think for example, you were in that spot. Like, you didn't know that this is going to be the outcome. So like, you're around it. You're like, am I sure that I'm going to spend all this and then get this? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, what would you say to another guy who maybe is in your exact position that really wants to do it? Say, I give him the invite, just like I gave you the invite. What would your advice be to that guy? I'd say, just give it a shot and give it your all. It's, I mean, as far as finances go,
money comes and goes. It's, if it means, you know, you stop eating out as much. Well, now you have some extra money. Thanks, Jack. You got to make the, you got to, you got to make the calls to what's important to you. Oh, man. Dude, this is like, listen, moving forward to I want you to know. Like, the guys I really want to work with, I just want to speak to those guys. Guys like you, bro, straight up like you guys are my favorite because and it's not like you're like balling out, bro, you just like swipe the credit card right away. I know we didn't even do that. You know, we went and so, but you have the, it's the mindset. It's like the guy who's not afraid to take the leap and then also understanding, like you said, it's going to go anyway. You're going to spend them anyway. You're going to spend three grand in the course of half a year on probably dumb shit to be. Yeah. Oh, definitely. So it's like, I get it. It's crazy. Like some guys
get really hung up on it, but you know, it's all right. I'm not trying to like convince anybody. Like you got to do it. It's just if you really see it for what it is, what happened on the other shot of a two for you, man. You know what I mean? So 100% worth it for you. But yeah, I appreciate it. And I can't wait to, you better, you're going to retreat this year. What's up? Are you going? I hope so. Okay. Yeah. We got to, we got to smash them trying out their dog. Let's go. I, I'm ready. I'm ready to make the 12 hour drive out there. Oh, you got to push. I forgot. You guys got to push out there. Yeah. Yeah. You got to drive. Have you gone fishing with something's out there yet or no? No, I haven't. No, he, I think both of our schedules kind of, guys are blind for a while, but now that I'm making some changes with work, I think probably make something happen. Yeah, dude. And you know, I'm going to be there too. Like I'm going to be in California in about two and a half weeks. And I'll be there. Yeah, pretty much for,
pretty much for the majority of March. Okay. I'll be there for like a good month to be honest. Oh, wow. Yeah, man. So we got to kick it. We'll go fish. I'll hit you in something. We'll, we'll lock in the time. Cool. Yeah, let's do it. All right, Jack, my man. Yo, thank you so much again, bro, for just making the time and doing this like a little testimonial thing, then I appreciate it. I really, of course, thank you. I really appreciate the whole, the whole program 100% man. And it's for life, dog. So you're in the brotherhood. And I'll see you this year too. Hopefully at the retreat too. I hope so, man. Yeah, bro, I got you. All right, well, let's end with a quick prayer. I'm going to come here. Let me go. My name is a father and a son and the Holy Spirit. I'm in the home area full of grace. The Lord is with the blessed or Thou, my women and blessed is the fruit of my womb, Jesus. Holy Mary and Mother of God. Great for us sinners now in the hour of our death. Amen. My name is the father and the son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. All right, Jack, my man. All right. Well, congratulations again, dude. I'm really proud of you. Thank you. I really appreciate it.
100% bro. All right. Have a good day, dog. I'll touch you. I'll talk to you. Better to fight.
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