Compras a conciencia (CICODE UGR - CARNE CRUDA EXTRA)

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1:01should be a reference on how to do things. If you look at the labels of the products to support the local trade and try to improve the world, why don't they do it in the institutions? This podcast answers to the question. It's summer, it's sunny, and you stay for two months to return to the class of the university. It has been a hard course, but here you are, picking up strength for September. You can't disconnect from everything because you still have to know the note of the last exam you did. You put it in the virtual office, but the page is stuck and you don't know if it's fault of your coverage or the service of your university. So keep the phone and keep trying to disconnect.

2:0911,000 km from distance, another university student like you, has also seen the summer. He from the city of sunshine in China. But it's not in the beach. He is sitting in the table of a factory, forced to spend his vacations working 12 hours a day, six days a week. He has to do it or not be able to graduate in his university. They are practices between comies and obligators. They call them practices, but it's a labor exploitation. Along with the rest of their companions and companions, they manufacture the servers that later will buy large European universities and that will serve so that you can see your note from the beach. This Chinese factory, investigated in 2015, has as clients large technological markets

3:12that everyone knows. But the European universities had no idea that they were buying the servers that used to work with Chinese students. Sometimes, the declarations of the institutions are full of good sustainable intentions, but they have a much more powerful key to change the world. Their money. The universities and the rest of public organisms have great pursuits and a great volume of purchase at the year. That gives you a power, a balance to demand the companies that work with their institutions that should respect human rights and the environment. All of this has a very attractive name, as a responsible public company. But it has been key in the history of human rights. In South Africa, for example, served to hire black people in the post-aparjei era.

4:12And the United States used to incorporate veterans of the Second World War in the labor market. I have not presented myself. I am Juan Vermudez, although everyone knows me on the internet as chaos. I am an illustrator, writer and YouTuber, graduated from the University of Granada. And along with her, who was my university, we are going to grant that power of the public company in Spain. Compressed to science, buying into awareness, the power of the university to change the world. Chapter 1. That is a responsible public company. The technology is enough for a university. With computers and servers, however, these products, the technology, are one of the most difficult to create.

5:13I want to know where each element is made with which it has been manufactured. But as the law says, the unknown does not excite its complement. Well, does not excite it responsible for what we buy. We are going to do a test. We are going to see what happens if the university buys a computer just looking at the price. And then, what happens if it makes a public purchase responsible? We are going with the good option Bonito and Barato. We start in the mine. There are about 1,000 kilometers of granary university. There, the metal is extracted to make the computer.

6:20Adriana Espinoza is responsible for natural resources of the ONG, friends of the land. These metals have two problems. The first one is that its extraction is very contaminant in CO2 and dioxid in addition to erosion the soil. Not only does it contaminate the environment, the health of the workers who are not in the best conditions in labor. The second problem has to do with the globalization of these materials. The lithium comes mainly from the most-called lithium triángulo in Argentina, Chile, Bolivia, although then that metal process is processed in Australia, China has almost the monopoly of the land process, of countries like the Central African Republic, or the Democratic Republic of Congo, well in mining minerals, or called mining minerals, as it would be coal. It is well outside. So its transport around the world also amplifies the manufacture of CO2 emissions. And after extraction, it takes to assemble. And again, we have to talk about the violation of the rights of the workers,

7:20this time in the factories of Ensemble. Work forced, discrimination, restriction, freedom of association, economic and dangerous materials, dangerous chemicals, dangerous areas, there are also problems of labor hours and extences. Marisol Bernal has it responsible for relationships with the Afiliates of Electronics Watch, an organization that monitors the factories of the great technological ones to denounce the lack of dignified conditions. So if the university buys only looking at the price, we have a good computer, but that has left the right hand on paper, in addition to a lack of important contamination. And that before the computer reaches the repair container. And it is paradoxical in a university, right? A institution complies with the goal of the economic efficiency, which is what the government has always been prevalent, but ignores the social consequences and rights of humans

8:20that have those decisions of purchase. In addition, it is a place that forms future generations, that are called to change these dynamics so destructive. But let's look over there. David Comet is a research institute of advanced social studies of the CESIC. With the labor exploitation of people from the other parts of the world, for example, Migra, because they are united into my area and, in part, because of the economic and global system that condemns many people to work in conditions of health of many hours without the worst cases of labor exploitation, all migrations and everything that is associated with migrations is also associated with our ways of consuming. So let's see what happens in the second case. If the purchase is aware and responsible. We start again in the mine. The sustainable mining does not exist. The only sustainable mining in which it does not open. It is true that, to have a computer, we need minerals. There is no turning back as possible.

9:22But there are alternatives such as to alter the life of that computer or to bet on re-conditioned computers. To recover the residues, it continues to be a priority action. And that is there in the greener of the computer where the alternative mining is. There are numerous small companies, many times of the social and solidarity economy that are dedicated to picking up what they have already received because they have disappointed to re-condition them, to let them prepare themselves. And what happens in factories? What to demand in labor is dignified to improve the life of people. I tell you with a real case. In 2022, in a factory of Malaysia from which a very large company is being sold, a migrant worker in Nepal, is the chief of the conditions that they are suffering from him and his colleagues. Then there are excessive contractions, salaries, and additional costs that the workers had to incur with medical examinations, tests of COVID, transport, passport. All of this had to be included to be able to go back to work.

10:24And some of them had to sign up because we did not start working and you are in debt, right? The worker is queued and kidnapped and deported by the representatives of the factory. But his queuege ends in the month of various organizations, such as the electronics watch, which is part of the Marisol Bernal. We alert our affiliates, they also exert their influence on brands and also activists of rights in Malaysia. The affiliates of the electronics watch are great institutions that want to know if the technology they are buying is free of modern slavery. When there is a case like this, their pressure to the suppliers is key so that things start to change. And change. The factory accepts to return the contracts taxes. A total of €4,000 and not only that, they localize the rest of their company and company to return them also the money. In total, about 200 people. And it begins an investigation in another factory to return the money to another 178.

11:24A denouncement of 380 people is beneficial. And you will ask yourself, is that because institutions buy responsibly or because of the pressure of the managers? In reality, it is a work of all. I buy a lot of the university, for example, I buy thousands of computers but I do not buy the volume, it is enough to be able to make palanca to change everything in a state of doubt. However, all the universities, all the hospitals, yes. Olga Martín Ortega, is a state of international law of the Greenwich University and also part of the Electronics Watch. When Electronics Watch meets a abuse situation contacts his daughter and says to her, your suppliers are providing you, for example, semi-conductors that are produced with a situation that can be considered effortless in Malaysia. Ask your suppliers, put pressure on your suppliers. If everyone puts pressure on their suppliers,

12:24they put pressure on the next, the chain bond and ends up in the factory in which they are producing these violations. And so it is achieved that more than 300 people receive the money they deserve. Do you know the surprise of everything? This factory is not assembled by computers. The factory has companies, but it is applicable to any company and technology. So, let's go back to computers. We are again in the Greenwich University. How much pressure could be exerted? How many computers do you buy? They were 100 in 2024 and 175 in 2025, but the economic sum of that was up to 100,000 euros. Jose Ramón, Spain, is the director of the Center of Informatics Services and network of communication of the Greenwich University. In the purchase of servers that use a lot of material that has already incorporated a computer, they were spent more, almost a million euros in 2024

13:25and 700,000 in 2025. Servedores, you know, to give coverage to all the campus. Jose Ramón redacts the call to the brand to buy computers in the next years. That is to say, that basic characteristics should have the ones that come to the university. And the environmental theme has, of course, that must ask equipment and servers energetically efficient. To apply social criteria seems more complicated, but it can be done. We continue traveling. Now we are in the United Kingdom, where they have taken very seriously this of the responsible public purchase. We have a regulatory framework that prevents to be bought in products in which the presence of modern or forced labor. The 2015 law of the United Kingdom requires private companies that factor more than 36 million of books that communicate

14:25what they are doing to make sure that there is no modern slavery in their cadenas of their ministry. Olga forms a part of the Council of Administration of London University for Chising Consortium. An organization synonymous with lucro, that includes universities, museums, theatres that unite to buy together. The director of the Consortium is going to ask the question. Olga, we have an obligation to comply with the law of modern slavery. As a public entity, you don't need to make this report. However, because we don't do it. And then the first step says, well, and what is my cadena of suminichro? I know that the provider who doesn't even know the brand. And then, it begins to think that it was bought. And then, what does it have to do with what we identified as an coordinator? But after what we identified a lot of other things, from the security to the touch of the ceremony. Of graduation. For example, we ask ourselves,

15:25well, and we will know where the touch comes from. Olga speaks of the security. But the list of products and services of a public entity is very long. From the coffee to the office material. You can really be responsible in each of the contracts. I'm going to make you a spoiler. Yes. You can make a responsible of a pencil and even a gun. I'll tell you about it in the next episode. For example, Olga, where were the touches? In the city there was an enormous deposit of the industrial textile in Turkey, because many of the refugees of Syria worked in a factory called Grande Grande. But in total, we are the owners of the people's houses. Therefore, there was a lot of industrial textile and a lot of the production was in Turkey too.

16:32A doctor in Otórrino La Rincología operates in a public hospital of London. It will be the last operation of the day. Then, it will be evacuated to the court in Pakistan. The city where his family grew up, and from where they emigrated in 1970 to the United Kingdom. Passing through the streets of this Pakistani city, into a small workshop. What is found there is going to mark a point of inflection in its career. Children and children between 7 and 10 years making the tourists and the remains of Kirurgik that he and his colleagues of London use every day. The city of Seal Court is the city of his family, but also the world center of the construction of Kirurgik. The 80% is here and is sent to the foreigner. When this doctor returns to the United Kingdom, he finds the work group Medical Fair and ethicaltrade

17:32to try to eradicate the infantile work in the streets of the medical material. From that moment from 2007, the public service of health of this country looks at the loop that comps and who makes it. Compres to conscience Compres to conscience Compres to conscience The power of the university to change the world. Capítulo 2 Uniforme A pencil and a coffee. Hello, I'm Juan Bermudes. Although everyone knows me I'm Carlos. I'm an illustrator, writer and YouTuber created in Bella Sartes the University of Granada. Along with the university I invite you to accompany me on this path about how the public company is responsible can be a field of field. How can you improve the life of children in thousands of miles of distance? Speaking of public company

18:32sounds... ethereal, difficult. So let's terrorize it a little. Let's leave Pakistan and the United Kingdom and return to Spain. Here, in 2023, the public contract has put a 25% of the total of public expenses. That is, that of all the money that is spent in pensions, help and others, the 25% was for private companies to administer products or services. From the computer and the monthly payment to the free water for a hospital or contract with a driver or a complex contract military, for example. Olga Martín Ortega, international democratic university of Greenwich. The public entities are great people of the market because they are very long contracts and in addition, it is very prestigious to provide good services to the public. It is very interesting to the companies as clients.

19:32When we talk about the public responsible, we talk about companies with environmental and social criteria. Sustainable management of water, gas reduction of greenhouse effect, recycling and incorporation of people with disabilities. Elimination of gender equality, the fulfillment of the confiliation or the respect of human rights. But everything can be converted into public responsible, everything, everything? A concrete case. A university has to contract to a company of surveillance and security. For this, it takes out a license and specifies what it needs. Here, you can also talk about public responsible? Yes, you can. You only have to go to the details. For example, pointing out to someone in equality, and gender equality. Or, contracting companies,

20:32whose uniforms are configured with natural fiber of ecological agriculture. Another example. The cleaning service. Here, it can be applied by companies that use ecological products. But there is more. I would not surprise the amount of times that that service, the coordination and direction are focused exclusively by men. Many times, when decisions do not tend to the best to the needs of women that are developed in the lab. David Comet, researcher of the Institute of Social Sciences of the CESIC. For example, a measure that can be applied in a contract, is that those orders of coordination or, well, they are formed by women or, well, there is participation of women to incorporate gender purpose and that the decisions that are taken are also in accordance with the needs of, above all, women or decline of the needs of a public engagement to the University of Valencia. A very complete document on this subject, which, in addition,

21:32is adapted to other entities to cope and take their texts in public contracts. Literally. On this, social and environmental wearings are very different, in the catering parties, asking how the affected the law comes from the fair trade, in the event of lending ecological food. The maintenance of the buildings, according to the best in the competition, those companies that have the energy efficiency promote the family configuration or the work of people in vulnerable situations. Or the mobile phone, valuing the best that offers furniture with recycled materials. The public purchase is responsible to apply to the efficiency material. Look, I read you. The laptops, at least, that are bought in Portamines, will have to be made without waste. And the polygraphs that are bought will be able to recharge

22:32or be able to be recycled or compostable. Like paper, wood or corn. All can be applied to ethics and sustainability. We are going to the University of Granada. We are going to see the economic potential that have my university to understand the impact that it would have on its way to buy. We are in 2023. Now I tell you why. That year, the university had a total of 772 million euros. And it made 73 public contracts and more than 36,000 contracts. A smaller contract is that that does not exceed 15,000 euros if it is a summinist or a service. A number that rises to 50,000 euros if we talk about investigation. If the contract refers to a work, the contract can not exceed 40,000.

23:32From these quantities, you have to take out the citation. That is, to the competition. This is a maximum duration of 5 years. This is José Antonio López, director of the contract area of the University of Granada. Most of the contracts would be very planned because they are recurrent. In the new need, as we do a new schedule, it is because they are in a hurry. Or if you have a reform of a building because they have given you money to reform it. And in what do you spend the money on the university? The Cicode, the initiative center of co-operation to the development of the university. To see how and what was hired by the year 2022 and 2023. That is why I brought you to the proposals of 2023. In that form, it was realized that the work through the citations

24:32was focused on four areas. Start, work, vigilance and scientific equipment. Although we talk about the number of contracts and not of amount of money, most of them are destined to buy scientific equipment and equipment and information services. All the universities have a capacity of those contracts. And there are 900 contracts. I mean, the size of Granada and 900 or 900 contracts are potential contracts that are part of the central group of investment projects and investment projects. The public contract in 2023, for the university, the 10% of the total budget. The goal of its report is that there is a lot of way to do within the university to achieve a good level of responsible contract. That is to say, there are many pending challenges for each of those contracts to include social and environmental criteria.

25:32We identified up to 25 better recommendations. I don't know if I wanted to implement all of them because it's very abrupt nor is it a list of points to follow. So we thought of other recommendations in the next episode. Before implementing them, Seña Domínguez, of the Cicode project, explains that first, you have to make a change of the chip. That is, let you bet on the good, good and cheap good. And then, working on a policy of responsible contracts. The creation of this policy of responsible contracts would imply that the university recognizes its responsibility in society, assuming the power as in relationships with external actors as they are the providers and towards the general society. If we talk about impact in society, the University of Granada has no competitor. It is the university that has more impact in Spain. It is the university that has more impact at the end of what it represents its activity on the level of the province.

26:32Specifically, the institution represents the 12.7% of the level of the province. Teodoro Luque is a categorical of commercialization in the research of markets in this university. Because there we include what is the University's activity through its budget, but it is also important that the impact of the act that the students do, rather than the students that come from other provinces, or CQE, and also the impact that has the visits of relatives to the students and the impact of the activities, reunions, congresses, etc. that are celebrated in Granada. Teodoro Luque has directed the third studio from 2009 on the impact that the University has on the province. This institution gives more than 31,000 people, that is, an 8.5% of the entire province of Granada is very needed for that impact in the village, because we do not forget that

27:32Granada is the school or the head, if you do not look in the house of that employee. So the impact of the University is indisputable. If all that impact begins to become sustainable and socially responsible, imagine how much it could change the life of the people here and there. Of those and those who work in Granada and who is a feminist at the University. Although I am sure you are asking but this is not more expensive. It is not more expensive to buy ethical and responsible. Because it is not the same to buy coffee to eat just that coffee is not. I ask Javier Mendoza, economist, and the first thing he does is to answer with a quote. As he has been killed and there is no major issue that confuses value and price. And then with an example, security is a temporary job

28:32and then in the end, it is impossible for the workers to buy a misery and you have to be able to control them. The price now is $10,000. But as an institution as the University of Granada can assume the change to a responsible public income. I tell you in the next episode. I am in Malmo, Sweden, concretely in the community. He went to his coffee to have a coffee with milk. It is not a coffee any. It has the certification of just coffee and it is not only because I am in the community. If I were to have another public institution

29:34the coffee would still be responsible and sustainable. Malmo has the certification of just coffee in the city from 2006. From then on, and after a great job, the coffee in the municipal has passed 0.5 to 99%. Malmo has managed to be referring to the city of just coffee. It has 318,000 inhabitants. The University of Granada among the students and the workers' staff less than 100,000. So if Malmo can, the universities can. The obligation of the public to create a services is very important. The product is needed to a price that guarantees its use at the moment.

30:34And I would add what we have done to make the right hand. Rekojo said Olga Martín Ortega, international rightist in the University of Greenwich. Now we have to see what challenges the University to change its priorities. I am Juan Bermudez, although all of you know me on the internet as chaos. I am an illustrator, writer, and I have graduated from the University of Granada. Welcome and welcome to the last episode of this podcast about public and responsible company. Comprehensive. Comprehensive. The power of the university to change the world. Chapter 3. Reorienting the rumble of a Atlantic Transatlantico. The University of Granada is part of a good base

31:34to become a reference. It has been recognized as one of the 10 Spanish universities with more social and environmental compromises. The knowledge and development highlights some of its initiatives. Like the installation of 21-point Violeta for the province of Machista. The institution protocol or the BECAS program for refugees. The CICODE. Do you remember? The initiative center of cooperation and development that has developed a report on how to buy the university. This center belongs to the vice-rectorate of equality including social compromise and initiatives and activities to foster the university of development. The CICODE also seeks to mobilize the university that is, to the student, to the professor and to the technical management, administration,

32:34and services. The goal is to foster its responsibility in the defense of human rights and when they made the report they wanted to know how to buy another form. Senior Dominguez. The CICODE project technique. We think that the general association would not only understand but that every time the oxygen is more. During the implementation of the report we ended up in a survey in which, clearly, the university demanded greater education and responsibility in the promotion of responsible consumption. And if a public institution spent a little more on a product the installation of vulnerable people or the impulse of the ecological products is just extra it is perceived as a social investment. The rescue of the community already has it. So, where to start to reach the goal? First, as I told you in the previous chapter

33:34with a change of mentality understanding that the purchases are social and environmental investment. The university has to adapt a route to a long term about this issue. The current current legislation approved in 2017 obliges to change the way to hire for it to be sustainable. If you have to change the way to buy people in charge of this they need to know how to do it. José Antonio López, head of the contract service of the university is already asking for it. This is a unit of 14 or 15 people

34:34and almost all of them are professionals from a generic form. They are going through here. They have already started to start and the people who are responsible linked to the purchases like José Ramón, Spain from the center of information services and networks of communication they are very grateful. They are very good. They tell you how to incorporate a clause because we are not really bothered. So, I know what I want and I know what could be good for us, but how do they materialize it? How do they put it in the contract? They also want to lose the fear and be flexible.

35:38And be supported between the people. To know the market, be supported by technical people that are around you to know how to drive teams, how to discipline all of this sometimes, in efficiency of this we take care of it. It's the law, it's the norm, it's the procedure and the tools. More aspects to improve, to know what social and environmental criteria are important for each contract. The Cicode detected in its analysis that the university included criteria almost in a mechanical way. And it's good to have good intentions but sometimes it's not enough. And even criteria are erroneous. Javier Mendoza, economist and professor of the University of Laguna put an example. I always have a discussion with a contract that I wanted to put in a contract of information services just between men and women. 50% of the plant. Well, it's a clear criteria.

36:38Not so much. You're destroying a job on the other side. Next challenge, the following. Because it's not about doing a good contract if then nobody controls what the company complies with what it promised. José Antonio López, Director of the University of Laguna of the University of Laguna puts an example. It's a system for the archive of a collection that we don't have. And then, at the end, we spend the money, we spend the money, and at the end, the software that we bought

37:38and the order. At the end, we don't complen with the main end. The main end of the contract is to document the archive of a donation that we had because we're having a problem to complenen the contract. The following does not only allow to control that everything is doing well but also to plan. There are a lot of resources especially in people at the time and, well, for money, of course. Javier Miranda is the chief of the University of Supervision and the commitment of the University of Córdoba. It's a unit in which other universities look at it. I think that's the plan when it comes to planning. I mean, planning is not within the language. But they got a project in 2019 and they start to see the results. We also develop a commission of strategic contact in which, again, we establish certain objectives of the function that we're going to do.

38:39And that is what allows to plan the unit, which is focused on a type of contract or a type of environmental, or social, or whatever it is. And that's vital. And it's something that was impossible and the University of Supervision. And one last aspect to improve is the local economy. This seems to be the easiest way to post for a great company. Well, not so much. Working exclusively with local products does not guarantee that they are respecting the environment or that they buy and that they respect the right human rights. Or they do not have the laws and certifications that an institution has to offer. In front of them, there are six providers from the framework of the office that we are in. We have a million and something of euros. But the five providers or the three local providers,

39:39in addition to these multinational that also sell us, they have this offer. But they do not buy this offer, but they do not have the offer. The University does not seek to put palos in the street and seek to change the society. It does not try to stop working with its providers but to help them to also enter the streets of responsibility. This is Senior Domínguez. We know that these changes are not made for each other and in this sense, it is important that the University also accompany the providers through the facilitation of tools in which it is allowed to line up with the goals of the public of the Solidarity Economy. An instrument that helps identify the environmental, and economic impacts of a company. Thus, they can demonstrate in front of the University its level of coherence and environmental responsibility and of the products offered.

40:39Or they can also publish in their website the traceability of their products. The aspects to improve are clear. Now let's see the recommendations. Senior Domínguez. From the CICOD. We talked about the previous chapter of 25 recommendations. But today I bring you here only some. What would you do to make the University of Granada to convert into a reference of the public public responsibility? In addition to creating a route and strengthening the personal it is essential to help the providers in the University of Granada. And accompany them in the adaptation so that they do not stay out of the process of change. It is also important that participate in the University. The student, the teacher and the technical staff of management, administration

41:39and services. They can opinion not only about coffee or menu but also about how the University in which they all go up. More recommendations. To reach the 5% of reserved contracts. I explain. The University of Public should assume the commitment of dedicating a minimum of a 5% of the contracts to increase the work of people in social exclusion risk. Today, not to reach that 5% and could be key contracts in areas like the start, and these are the contracts. We continue another recommendation. Against more entities of social and solidarity and increasing the food Just. The University could buy coffee, soap or psychological detergents without too much difficulty to these entities. Also facilitate organizations

42:39as the Electronics Watch from which I talked to you on the first episode and work together to promote a network of responsible contracts of all public universities in Spain. Because as Martín Ortega said, a single university can't. All the universities together, yes. The University of Granada has a great potential to become a reference in public-responsible contracts. The law of public sector contracts was approved in 2017 and since then, public entities have to contract in another way, not just looking at the price. Change the dynamics of transatlantic, so large as these institutions is not easy. But it does not mean that it is impossible. Only that it costs more time. 17.23, target or effective. Because if you look at each label when you go to the supermarket if you try to support the neighborhood,

43:40with a target, please. Why don't they make it to the institutions? They have more people, more budgeted and more capacity to change things. Every decision counts. The public institutions multiply. That is the public-responsible contract. Thank you for listening. Pass Galeana.