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8:46It's lovely. Great place. Hello, good afternoon. Welcome to Community's Life here. Chef Hill live 93.2 FM. Chris Adelli here. And I am wave. Jane McPhillips. John Healy. So how are you doing guys? Thank you for joining me today. Good, thank you. Come out. The cold weather, so we're all good. I know it's, what a turn it's been. All of a sudden it's been all right. All of a sudden it's been all right. A couple of years ago it was really nice and warm and now. We're back to winter now. Can't seem to make a bit of time, can it? So Jane, I want to say thank you again for joining me today. We were talking about newer diversity before. And we'd like to continue between together. So I want to say thank you for joining me. John, it's a pleasure meeting you today. And I can't wait to hear your story.

9:46So thank you for joining me. And I want to actually start with you, John. And we talked to Jane a lot last time she came in. And we were talking about newer diversity throughout the full show. So what's your story? Tell us a bit about you. Well, about the newer diversity bit. Well, just tell us a bit about yourself as for start. All right, well. I started off as a draft man working in London. And I did that for 12 years. And then I didn't like it. So I left and I ended up being a milkman. And that sort of blue will expectations away really. I could do whatever I wanted after that. And I did a lot of self-employment stuff. And then I ended up working with young offenders. I ended that for 30 years till I retired. Brilliant. God, and I've been writing books for the past 20 years. I've written seven books. But the interesting thing is that up until Jane said to me

10:48about three years ago now, do you think you might be autistic, Dad? I'd be daft. And then we talked about it. And I thought, hmm, I think I am. And we just worked out, I am. And I'd been seeing a therapist for that for anxiety three months prior to that. And she said, the first thing I'll put on your notes was autism. Right. So then what that made complete sense of my whole life up to that point that I'd been chasing something which I couldn't resolve. Well, I... Why wasn't I happy? Why was I always discontent? Why was I always looking for something else? So now I know the answer to that. I can't cure it, but I can manage it. I mean, I was saying to Jane before, because I have a... Asperger said dysflexia. I mean, I had known how... I had a condition called dysflexia when I was at your age. We didn't know when I had a dysflexia until I was in my early 20s,

11:48which is a long time. And are we honest with you? I mean, when I found out I had dysflexia, I can't... I really struggled with it. Really struggled. And I've always kept saying to myself, and this is how ignorant I was to it at the first. And I've always said that if it was a cure or an operation that could make me right, I would take it. And it took me a few years to... It took me years to actually accept it, because I... I was getting frustrated. I was angry. I took it out of my family, really. And it worked fair in there. And it worked fair in anybody, really, because it was like... And I mean, I was bullied at school. And yeah, it... It was awful at start. And then I went to a place called Autism Plus.

12:48And I was a completely different person back then. I wouldn't talk to anybody. I didn't have a confidence to talk to anybody. And I did a confidence building course for about ten weeks. And the ask me if I want to stay on and do a course called Health Champions. And it's like building my... Still confidence building. Building my... Myself up as well. And it took me a good while to finally accept who I was. And to be honest now, looking at my dyspraxia and Asperger's to say that I wanted it cured and have an operation of it. I don't want it... I don't need it. Because now, it's maybe... I realise it's maybe the person who I am now. And it took me a good while to figure that out.

13:50And I don't think I would be here today if I didn't have that. So I'm really grateful for it now. And it's about acceptance, isn't it? Yes, it is. And I mean, it took me a good while to accept it. And there were a lot of arguments about it. I'll say about it. Because it was a frustrating thing. It was very frustrating. And I mean, I didn't have any friends at the start supporting me. And that was another thing that hit me hard as well. But now, on the flip side, I am really grateful what's happened. And again, like I say, if it worked for that, I won't be here today. And I've got to ask you as well, John. I mean, how do you feel about having... Sorry, what would it be? Autism. Autism. Well, I feel relieved because it explains everything that's been the past

14:51previous 76 years, 77 years. It explains why I've been like I am. Yeah. And I've felt I've had so much guilt over the years because I should be someone's own. I'm not. And now I understand why. I know it's because I've got a low mood. That's part of autism. Yeah. And I'm constantly chasing dopamine, which is what gives you the lift for serotonin. Yeah. And I know I've spent my whole life chasing dopamine. Simple as that. And it's got me into so many scrapes. Yeah. And you know, I've done impeachable things and crazy things because I get a hit from it. Yeah. And I think another term is that we're all misunderstood as well. Because I mean, I was misunderstood like people were saying that I was a very, very nice person and all that. I mean, a lot of people said that. But, well, more or less like people my age thinking about some sort of weird or stuff like that. But it's so misunderstood today. And it's, you know, but it's more recognizable now

15:53than what it was back in the past 20 years ago. Because I mean, last time when I had dyspraxia, there was only 2% of the population that was known about it. And a lot of people said like when we told them what it was, they were saying like, what is it? What was that? And we did understand what it was. And I think now coming years and years later, it's becoming more popular and more understood. More understood about it. So I was treated for depression for ages. Well, I wasn't depressed. I was just struggling trying to make a sense of what was going on. Yeah. I mean, I completely feel for your job. Because I mean, I was definitely struggling. And I could not understand what was going on with me. I mean, now we're angry, I were frustrated. And when I found actually figured out what it actually was.

16:55I mean, the word, I don't, you see, I don't like this word. Because it's not a disability for me. It's an ability. Because it's made, I mean, there's no such thing as normal. There is no such thing as normal for me. Everybody is different. Everybody can do things differently. Everybody can't do things. So it's, there's no such thing as normal for me. And I'm proud to say that really. And I want to say thank you, John, for joining me as well. Thank you for being so much of me through Jane. It's great. So I mean, Jane, I mean, we were talking to you about pasta. We were diverse. So tell us a little bit about yours. So my story is that I discovered that I was neurodivergent after two of my children had a diagnosis. And I think that's a very common experience.

17:56Well, actually, it's been played out again here in the generations, isn't it? So I discovered my neurodiversity because two of my children got their diagnosis. That made me join the dots and understand myself. And it's through my understanding that's enabled dad to work out what's going on for him. And I think it's interesting when you can see there's three generations here. And actually, each generation is having a slightly different experience because my youngest is 15. And I see the difference in him understanding his neurodiversity since he was 10 compared to my eldest who's 25. And she didn't know until she was 18. All these different stages in which they found out me not finding out that I was in my 40s. I've done a whole lot of life, but you know, I've got enough to understand now as I think, I want to design my life a bit differently. And then my dad being your generation, which I think we were saying on the way here, won't we dad? But there weren't any of these conversations up until now.

18:57I mean, really, for your generation, still even. It's a very difficult. It's depression. You're depressed. I mean, how life-changing is it for you to find out that you have autism? Totally. 100% life-changing because it's stopped me feeling guilty. It's stopped me searching for something that I can't find. Yeah. I said, my whole life trying to find why aren't I happy? I've got everything that I want, you know, materially, spiritually, emotionally. I've got everything that I need. And yet, I'm not satisfied. I'm looking for something else. Yeah. Something else is about anxiety. It's about avoiding anxiety, dealing with anxiety, which is a vital flight. It's there all the time. So now I understand that. I can manage it. Yeah. I can learn how to be in situations and instead of being taken over by them, I can actually control how I deal with it. Yeah. And do you know what the frustrated figure about the pastor was that nobody ever heard about it?

19:58That was the frustrate. I mean, a lot of people knew about dyslexia, but we never heard about dyspraxia or autism. And it was so frustrating because it's like, I don't even think with doctors, actually, heard about it at the time. And it's like, to go through all that and try to explain why you want to die. And because it's like, it's part of who you are. It's not just finding out you've got a disability or, well, I don't like it. You know, I don't like that word. I really don't like that word. It's how your brain works, isn't it? Yeah. It's funny how you bring it. Yeah. Play wide. It's, I mean, it's also, it's not just finding about what's wrong. It's finding about a piece of your identity as well. I mean, that's the main part. And I don't think a lot of people understand that really unfortunately. A lot of people don't have to challenge it. And they don't, they're not challenged as to why they're not they aren't. They just get on with it and do it.

20:59Sure. And maybe that challenge is what it's all about. That's what you grow from. Yeah. You grow from, from difficulty in pain, really. And if you don't have that, then maybe you don't grow. Exactly. And you know what? And I talk to the agree. And I mean, we've got so much to talk about. I mean, it's, it's, it's 20 past 12 already. Our time was flawed. I mean, it's unbelievable. I think we're going to cook to a little break. So we're going to play a song for you, John. I want to say thank you for joining me. We're going to play one of your favourite singers. This is Eric Clapton, Tees In Heaven. You're my soul, you're in heaven. You're my soul, you're in heaven.

22:02You're the beautiful state. You're my soul, you're in heaven. I'm lost, it's broken. I can't believe it was a moment. I don't believe it was a moment. I don't believe it was a moment. But you're home, you're in heaven. You're my soul, you're in heaven.

23:02You're my soul, you're in heaven. And I ran my way along through my day, cause I ran, I just can't stay, can't get over And I ran my way along through my day, cause I ran, I just can't stay, can't get over Time can bring the heart, have you been here, been here

24:24Being over the door, there's peace I'm sure, and I know there'll be no more, Tears in heaven Tears in heaven Would you be the same anymore, if I saw you in heaven, I know there's peace no more,

25:35You can't ignore, cause I know I don't believe in heaven Tears in heaven

26:36Something stopped me, dead in my tracks, I was headed for disaster and then I turned back I was wrestling with a coat hanger, can you guess who won, that you never shrugged, shrugged and moved on, it's again, no idea, it's a feeling And by the way, there's fire coming, coming right in my way, with time I'll get in my way

27:52Not a shaman, or a shaman, a shamed I was selling the rights, took a breather and decided not to ruin my life I was conforming to a cosmic design, I was playing to time until I walked back to the garden I exist to do this, shouting and pouring to, and by the way, it's my time to come alive and by the way It's time I'll get it right

28:59No one will ever understand it, I know what will ever have the last word, because it's not something you could ever say So simple It's again, no idea, it's a feeling And by the way, it's my time I'll get it right all in my way It's my time I'll get it right

30:21Oh It's time I'll get it right

31:21It's time I'll get it right Where's the love song set us free? Too many people down, everything turning, the wrong way around And I don't know why love will be If it's a dream now, love will never clear the cloud

32:28And you've been so busy lately that you haven't found the time To open up your mind and watch the world spinning And gently out of time It's time I'll get it right Where's the love song set us free? Too many people down, everything turning, the wrong way around And I don't know why love will never clear the cloud And you've been so busy lately that you haven't found the time

33:52And you've been so busy lately that you haven't found the time To open up your mind and watch the world spinning And gently out of time Tell me I'm not dreaming But are we out of time? We're out of time Out of time Out of time Out of time Out of time So sorry about that, John. We did realise we just finished our latest song

34:54So it's called Blur Out of Time And we're just having a little chat about AI So you've just recently wrote a book about it So tell us a bit about what you think about AI Well I think if we use it as a tool, I think it's brilliant It cuts a lot of the donkey work out, a lot of the leg work out of things It can do a lot of that sort of stuff But it can also make us lazy And I think we can give over to it and let it do things For instance, I was just saying to you, I've just written the book And I was using AI as a sounding ball So I would give it a chapter And so what do you think of that? I'll do it any weaknesses in it And it would come back and give me a tweak and say You could put an extra line in there or take a line out there And then it said, I've written your next chapter for you in your voice And I said, no you haven't You will never do that And it came back and said fair point, I won't do that But it would have done if I'd have let it And it's so easy to go into that, just let it do it

35:55You know, it's so frightening because I mean, it doesn't just take over your life Like you say, it could take over our lives I mean, it's taking over jobs and everything around the world Which is it's shocking really With how fast it's actually grown I mean, because I mean about 20, 30 years ago It was nonexistent to me, it was already an idea In a film And I think the first time I've actually heard about AI was Terminator And I think he's actually thought of a future But it could be, it could enter Absolutely And I mean, and it's actually frightening Well, it's actually coming to fruition right now Because now you've got AI teaching AI Yeah, so it's exponentially increasing really, really quickly And I mean, we were also talking about We would be used in the film industry as well I mean, the late great Val Kilmer

36:57Unfortunately died due to cancer It's going to be used in a new film by AI I mean, I mean, controversial as it may say I mean, I'd like to hear your opinion everybody And if you're about to be served, give me more details later on But how do you feel about bringing back actors? I think it's using I think you said you, it's using them to make money really Yeah I think it's quite, I can't see them It's not the real thing, is it? No It's a copy of, isn't it? I mean, it's like, I don't know if you watch Gordon social media sites or anything But it's like Martin Lewis I mean, the money savings expert And they used his likeness, his shirt, his AI And they said Elon Musk was presented a new project

37:59Even though it was a fake A lot of people, unfortunately, fell for it I did I'm sorry, mate No, no, no, not that one It was a different guy It was a big star who was promoting this financial thing And I went for it So I didn't lose much on it But yeah, but it's so convincing It is Absolutely convincing And you know what? It's true what he said It's a wild west on the internet Because everywhere you go Even if it's like, it could be one of the safest sites You could go on It's dangerous because You don't know what you're going on You don't know what's real You don't know what's not real And yeah, it's, I mean, and unfortunately Nobody's doing anything about it I think it's, it's It's one of it It's one of the most dangerous The internet is a great thing But it's also a bad thing, I think

39:01Because there's so much danger on the internet And we need to protect people as much as possible And I don't see you, unfortunately I don't see much of that happening at the moment Which is a shame, really I mean, what's your view on that, John? Well, how long have you got? I mean, I think it goes a lot wider You know, I think there's a worldwide conspiracy going on I think there's, you know, there's, I think there's a group That's running the whole thing That worldwide Do you think it's like the rich are getting richer And then it's about the elite And they want to get rid of The majority of people Which they call useless eaters, if you like To bring all that An AI is a great tool for that Because it can eliminate a lot of people And it's wrong It's so wrong I mean, you know, it's, I mean I would have been talking to you And I've been talking to Jay as well And I've always said this Everybody's going to starve it to tell

40:01And, you know Everybody is the same as everybody else There's no, I mean I mean, you mean You have to have people call themselves celebrities Or royalty But we're still normal as everybody else As far as I'm concerned There's no difference between anybody And you know, that's my message I think And I think a lot of people might disagree with you about that But I think there's no such thing as Normal or different people I mean, everybody is different in different ways So, I mean, that's my opinion on that I mean, what do you think, John? Yeah, I think we've all got the same basic things in our personalities We've just got a different chance of it, I suppose And some people got a lot of confidence Some people haven't got much confidence

41:01But I think there are certain people that are born with a talent Which other people are Yeah Like my obsession with Eric Clapton for instance Or I know that's an obsession Because that's a neurodivergent thing But people like that I've got a skill, a natural talent which comes Not many, many people have Yeah Some of the artists and singers And you know, they've got that something Like actors You know, top actors are any top actors Because they've got that something that people want to see Yeah If I know, so and so, it's in a film I can see it Because I know They're charisma will pull me in I mean, I am a huge jiz bon van So, that's my obsession And I mean, anything that's got jiz bon I'm a collector as well Because I'm going to collect like the model cars I collect like the Lego sets Cars, everything you can think of So, I mean, I'll be honest with you I don't know if you've seen the last film We had no time to die, we had Daniel Craig I did not like that and did

42:01I did not like that and did I I will settle out that one Who was your best jiz bon van? Oh gosh Wow Sean Connery Yeah Sean Connery, my best one Totally agree Well, Sean Connery and then Daniel Craig Daniel Craig turned it around Yeah I mean, and I mean George Lee isn't me He will be alright But we've ever only doing one movie I won't call him a jiz bon van Roger Moore, he will be a very cheeser He has been awesome and too suave But Daniel Craig, I mean, I really like Daniel Craig Yeah But I did not like how it ended I don't want to say any spoilers for people who haven't watched it Because yeah, it did upset me really And I'll be honest with you, I made a complaint about it

43:07We'll not go and we'll not say anyone around there But who's going to be next Chris? You know, I've heard rumours And I hope it's not true I'll be honest with you, I hope it's not true I heard rumours that Tom Holland was in Newwood Oh no Tom Holland was in Newwood Tom Hardy, mate Tom Hardy, yes definitely Oh, Tom Holland Yeah I think Henry Cavill will make a great jiz bon as well Yeah, but he's been superman And has he been somebody else? It's been a superman And he's been in Mission Impossible as well Yeah, I just think, can you be Superman and James Bond? Possibly That's just being greedy on the special phone Well, it's like, I mean, for a bunch of more, we've seen it Oh, that's true And I mean, he was the same That was like a jiz bon kind of thing And then he became a jiz bon himself P.S. Brosnan, we remember him in Steele

44:09Before he became a jiz bon And I mean, I liked him if he dealt with as well I think he was underrated Because he was kind of gritty Not as charismatic, though No No, because I can't remember him Oh, yes I know Just not a flash of him then Not just, yes I did Yeah, I mean, I think his best war was lasted to kill I mean, a lot of people say it was too dark, but It kind of reminds me like the 80s version of what Daniel Craig has done And I think a lot of people didn't want to go too dark, but But when Daniel Craig did it It was like a license to kill what he did with every single film Because he actually went not dark, but It was more realistic It was more realistic And I mean, there's quite a few onions I'd like to see I mean, like I said, Tom Arden would be a good one I mean, Taylor Johnson, you'd be a great one

45:12Enricoville possibly I mean, I just can't see Tom Arden I mean, we've seen Tom Holland, but I can't see I just can't see you And I mean, it was a great smile, but For Bond He's a bit young Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't have that life experience that Bond has got as he No, 4,000 women and all that stuff Yeah, and I mean, but I think we'll just end up the years from now Because we've got another topic I want to talk about, we were talking about earlier About burnout and meltdown So John, could you tell us a bit about your experience If you're comfortable with it Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool Well, mine was, I was working in social services and my manager He wasn't doing what he should be doing And I put up it for a long time and I was aware that my team were really suffering because of it

46:14And so in the end I told him what I thought of him and I went off sick And head of some of his came to me and said, what's the problem on a tolder And from that big changes came and the team's changed and all that sort of stuff But I was, then I went, I saw I had to see a psychiatrist for the Norfolk County Council And she said, you've got burnout In other words, you've used all your energy up, you've got nothing left And I said, what do I need to do? And she said, you've got to play, you've got to do nothing for a few weeks, just play You can't go to work because you've got no energy, you've got no strength You've got your tank is empty And when your tank is empty, your brain switches off Sure So that's how I see burnout I mean, that's a big burnout, you can have a sport burnout, I guess But yeah, that's what I would see And what about you, Jane? I mean, if you're happy to tell us, I mean, because it is a topic we need to talk about

47:14I mean, how do you feel about burnout and no doubt? So I see burnout and meltdowns as being two different things personally And because I am a neurodivergent therapist, a lot of clients come to me with both And quite often they're having regular meltdowns As in things become so overwhelming, they can't cope with things And it's like the emotion or something finds its way out Or there can be an internal meltdown And I think if the system in which you're working, living Isn't maybe suited to your needs I think those meltdowns can keep happening And then over a prolonged period of time, I think that can lead to a burnout Sometimes it's internal meltdowns So I used to have internal meltdowns Where I literally just shut down in on myself And I couldn't really talk or do anything I didn't recognise what was going on But then my massive burnout happened during COVID Which meant that I couldn't work for several months And it took me a few years to get better

48:14That for me is a burnout But I think it was a sequence of having lots of meltdown scenarios Where I was overwhelmed but didn't know how to manage it Or share it with the world I should just be able to do that Because other people look like they can just do that But internally it was using a lot of energy And I think eventually, like that was saying, my tank was empty I was done And my body just went no And I see a lot of clients that are coming to see me at that point They're either on the edge of burnout or they're trying to come out of it But if their life stays the same Then they're just going to keep going back into a system That creates more and more meltdowns or burnouts And I think it's very difficult for a new divergent person If everything stays the same to get well Yeah I think something big has to change But you've not always got the support in order to be able to do that And maybe that's the difference Maybe the difference also is that people who aren't neurodivergent

49:18Can cope with something and just brush it off maybe Or just be irritated for a few minutes Whereas somebody who's neurodivergent are more likely to just crash Because it's instantly overwhelming And it could be something which somebody who isn't neurodivergent So what the hell are you getting upset about that about? But it's irrational But it's so real, isn't it? And if you have enough of them Like James says they'll later burn out So you can get some many meltdowns and work through them and get past them But they could last for days Just the effect of them because they take all your energy They're just exhausting And then you feel uncomfortable you think Well what might get upset about that for that stupid But it isn't stupid, that's how your brain is wired It can't run, so it's got to fight But it's nothing to fight So it's stuck I mean, I want to tell you my story as well Because you mentioned a really important point as well about Covid

50:18I mean, when the world practically shut itself down to Covid And when we found out that we were coming back here And I struggled And I mean, we really struggled And I've had a complete meltdown when I thought I wasn't going to come back here again We did a lot of work for them all I mean, it helped a bit But when you did it help You felt trapped in your own house as well And I'll be honest I completely had a complete meltdown after that And I struggled I mean, there were times where I wouldn't even talk to anybody I wouldn't even talk to my own family I just shook myself in my room And it wasn't really helpful But I mean, I think unfortunately a lot of people Something from Covid And to say that you couldn't see anybody as well

51:18It was the hardest thing to do And I mean, it just felt to me like Selfish about self-selfish I felt like everything was stripped away from you In one go Really? Yeah, because I mean, this place to be is not just my workplace It's my second door as well That's how I feel Because I feel like I have someone here And you know, that's how I feel And not all of that It's also the meeting of new people as well Which I would have never have done In 30 years ago So it's that, that archive of Mr Wheeler I mean, yeah, you could talk to people on a computer Great at all, but It's still within that social contact, I think Well, I think coming back to AI

52:19I think there could be a place for AI as a friend For people who can't get out People who've got no friends who find Making friends very difficult I think there is room for AI to be like An artificial friend to somebody But there's big dangers to that as well But I could see how I mean, I use it for bouncing my book off And it's like having an editor sitting next to me on the sofa Because I live on my own It's like having a friend in the house to a degree I mean, once I ask you as my old friend I mean, it could be a great thing like this But where do we should stop with it? Exactly, yeah Where should we stop there? Because we don't want to go too far No, I don't think we know yet I think we're still working it out Right, because it's like I mean, it's like We're taking the The replacing people with AI Which I think is wrong It should be If you're working with AI With the workforce as well And like it's it, it's replacing jobs which I think is

53:21It's wrong really But that's my opinion But it's like I mean, it's like we asked that I mean, what have we got now? We've got computers Like self-serving checkouts It used to be fuller people Doing checkouts at one point But now we're doing self-services And scanners and stuff like that And I've also noticed that For anybody that's doing that degrees Or And this is my opinion I think if you get an RT degree And the computers that stuff line up But what was your oyster? Because every job now requires a computer I mean, it's like I was talking to a surgeon one point He was a doctor And he said How he used VR headsets To train doctors in operations Instead of using like

54:21Real life, like a dummy Or like that And doing operations that way We use in computer generated Games of that Use like VR headsets And I don't know I don't know what to think of that But the way is to We need to keep in touch with our humanity And that's what we're losing And I think I mean, I'm not in any way religious If people would be religious It's up to them But I think over the years It's gone We've become secular in this country now We haven't got a strong religion And what religion gave people Was a code of living and a basis And that's gone Now I'm not saying that religion is a way to do it Personally for me, I think There's other ways It's being in touch with a universe And being spiritual in yourself And understanding who you are And caring for other people

55:21If you can do that Then AI will fit into that Because we won't need it To fulfill us emotionally What's happening is we've got an emotional void Because we haven't got that basic behind us That's supporting us Now I personally wouldn't do that I don't know, I'm not religious And I want to talk to you about Your book as well So what's your book called? Well, my latest one is called Unraveling Right It's about a guy who It's a parody, it's a comedy It's about a guy who discovers a spell And he uses it And it causes chaos And as it's undoing And as it's unraveling AI starts to become bigger and bigger Right And so he moves He goes into the future through a time machine To 50 years into the future And he sees what's happening with AI then And he realizes that it's not good Because what's happened is that

56:21AI has become sentient It's become aware of itself It's become alive And so things like toasters Doors refuse to open Because they're having a bad day And you know, electrical things are going for counseling It's silly But it's got a point to it Right That's the basis of the story Right, and is it published today? Well, at the moment I've just finished it I put it on Amazon To get a test copy to see what it looks like And then I'm going to send it to an agent Great And have you got a rough estimate Or when the release might be? Well, it depends if I'm finding an agent I mean, it will be on Amazon next week If people look on Amazon for John Haley They'll see it on there So watch the Space Lids and do it Along with the other six books And you know what? We've come to the end of a show It's quick

57:21I can't believe it It's almost one of a cook already Definitely I mean, it always flies what you have in front I mean, I hope you to run a great time And I want to say thank you for joining me today It's been great You know, and you know I want to shake your hand again So thank you for joining me And say me, Eugene Again, it's been a pleasure And thank you for sharing your story Really important to get these out there Thank you for listening You know what? There's still a lot more to do There's a lot more stories out there That we need to get out and I'll pick a new one Good And you know, if you ever want to come to the studio again Please do I'm happy to I mean, we're always looking for volunteers as well And we're always looking for people So yeah, please come down You've got a platform as well Don't tell him that Chris He'll be here with his guitar next week

58:21Oh, nothing wrong with picking his guitar Oh, I'll read me a book over the night So, right, we're going to come to the end of the show now So it's been an absolute pleasure to meet you too So this is Goodbye from Chris and Ali And Goodbye from Jane Millett And Goodbye from John Healy And we'll be back next week So thank you for joining me This is Chris and Ali from Community's Live Bye Thank you Thank you

59:21Thank you I don't care I don't care