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Our number two chasing big Joe one of two five the game here on this Friday.
Hope you're having a great day so far.
He's big Joe and Chase became Dr. Nick Frazier behind the glass.
And one of my favorite times of the week, Chris Sanders,
forever tight as wide receiver and one of the greatest and nicest men.
I know joins us now on the program.
What's up, Chris?
Man, I am doing good.
How much money I owe you like $2?
I got $5 and they all in quarter.
So, man, I appreciate it.
No, you're good.
I appreciate you, appreciate you, Joe.
Now, your brother's doing, man.
We're doing fantastic.
I want to start with a hypothetical or philosophical question when it comes to
the offense and with the Titans.
You look at this receiver group and, you know, I think there's some,
there's some talent.
Don't get me wrong.
It is, yeah.
But it's not the best receiver group in the league.
That's just a fair statement.
Not a bad statement, but it is what it is.
Yeah.
How much can a skilled offensive coordinator like Dable help guys
that are not elite of the elite, but to take them to a next level?
I mean, you've got to figure out what guy does whatever he does best.
I'm going to give it a perfect example.
If you have, you know, Robinson, it's a slot guy.
You have Cavalry, that's on, I mean, on the inside, you have Cavalry,
on the outside, just put him in position to be successful.
So you have a lot of talent in the room.
You got I.U. Manor, you got DK.
You got guys that can make plays, but just, and I know you hate when I go
back to 1999, but we had a lot of guys.
No, I was about to.
So don't worry about it.
In 1999, we had a lot of guys.
We had Derek Mason, myself.
You had Jansi Dick, Finn, you had, you know, Isaac Burr, all those guys were,
could make plays.
So what coach Steckel did is he put guys in position to make plays.
How you do that formation wise?
You know, does he run a comeback better?
Does he run a pose?
Does he run the scene?
Does he run choice routes and put guys in position to be successful?
I think Dave, Dave is going to do a great job by doing that because he has a
max by bringing out talent.
Do you think that Heimer Dingert kind of built off of that when he took over in
2000?
Yeah, he did.
I mean, we had a lot of talent in that room, but just like what he did is he,
he took a guy like Derek Mason.
Derek Mason was already a great receiver, but he put him in position when,
what does Derek Mason do?
Well, he runs the choice routes.
He runs the scene routes.
He runs the deal and he put him in position to be successful.
So now you got a whole bunch of guys in this receiving room.
So as a offensive coordinator, as a, a, a wide receiver coach, I got to figure
out, okay, what does he do?
Well, what does Calvin do real?
What does Eric do well and figure out and put him in the formation wise and be
well, just like Robinson, who they just got, you know, signed and free agent wise.
What does he do?
What does he do?
Well, he's not a big guy.
So I'm going to put him in slot, uh, in the slot or put him at the Z receiver to
where he doesn't have to get pressed at the minor scrimmage.
So those are the things that you can do to get better.
Uh, Chris Sanders is with us.
How you doing, buddy?
How's life?
How you doing, buddy?
How you doing, man?
You good?
Are we in track season now?
Yes, I am.
I got what the track season starts.
Actually, we got to track me next, win two there and win today.
So it's already started, man.
How does it feel working with the best track coach in American and Jen Pippen?
She's phenomenal.
Let me tell you some last year, we won, um, you know, the state championship.
And I'm gonna tell you, we didn't have the talent.
We didn't have the guys who were fast.
But we, we were a family.
I know everybody said that we're a family.
We worked together this and that, but the expectation family.
But, but we didn't have the talent, but we had the depth to come out and win
because here's the cool part about his is Jen Pippen always talked about pay
attention to details, work hard in practice, bring your spikes and, you know,
work hard in practice, all these things.
So now we have a guy that, that was a senior last year and, uh, he came to
practice every day.
He did his spot.
He did all the things right.
So now it comes down to the four by four.
And if we, if we take second or third, we win the state championship.
He wins, he wins.
He takes third and we win.
And that's why we're successful.
Uh, you know, I went to high school with Jen.
So she's a winner.
She's a winner.
She is a boss.
Yeah.
And she, you know, I think she still has the record and McGatts in her.
So she's a boss.
That's right.
Absolutely.
Hey, my question.
I got, actually, I've actually got a real question for you once today.
When I went from junior college to college.
Yeah, my, I had learned a lot of good things from my defensive line coach.
I go to college.
He teaches me things completely different.
And it took a while.
All right.
So now you've got these young guys coming in here, even Wandel Robinson and
guys, how long did it take for you to adapt to NFL coaching?
Because you had learned a certain way for three or four years.
Now you got to change things.
Was it difficult?
Was it easy?
How did you do it?
It wasn't difficult.
But the number one thing you got to do, you may catch 93 balls last year with
the giants, whatever.
That's great.
But you have to come in here.
You have to be coachable because the thing about is you may get another guy that
may know a better technique on how to lie with your eyes better, how to burst
off the cut, how to stack them.
All those things you need to know as a receiver.
So if you can learn any more input or get any more things to develop your,
your skills, then you're going to get better.
So as a veteran guy, you have new guys, you have a new coach to have.
You have an office accordingly.
You have a different wide receiver coach.
The one thing to make this thing successful coming in, you have to be
coachable and then really take what you learn in drills and apply it in the
game.
So that's how you get better and that's how you develop.
So do you, do these guys need to forget what they've got to this point?
See, a lot of things are the same.
I mean, the route she's on the same, you run a hit, you run a goal, you run
a seminar.
All those things are, are great.
But there's different coaches that do different things and different
techniques, just like when I had less deco as my wide receiver coach,
then I had a coach stock that was in my receiver coach when I was with
the Ohio State University, we ran the same routes, but they were taught
differently.
He taught me things that they're taught about.
He taught me things how to allow my eyes, how to burst off the cuts.
So it's not that you relearn things, you just, you just take it and get better
at it.
It's kind of like having a Lamborghini car and putting some rims on it.
You just make the car look better.
And that's what you do as a wide receiver.
Look at you.
How much are rims on a Lamborghini?
A lot.
And the Lamborghini's already good, but once you add them,
it makes your car better and that's the same thing with, you know, learning
different coaching.
Well, you're going to find me at budget breaks.
So that's what I'm going to do for my rims to get over there.
Chris Sanders is with us today.
Right.
So now, you know, you got these guys, you know, the workout's going to start in a
few weeks.
Like what does a Wondail Robinson do?
I mean, did you get with Dable and you already been with you know, the system,
but yeah, I mean, do you work out with Cam now?
I mean, do you have a chance to exchange with Cam?
How's this working?
1000% see the thing that you want to do is be like, okay, I'm on the team and I,
I know I'm going to make the team.
So I don't need to come in and do some stuff.
It's not just about lifting weights.
It's not just about, you know, going out there and practice about build a relationship
with your quarterback, build your relationship with Calvin really and Eric,
Eric, I am out of NDK, build a relationship with them because, you know,
if you look at some of the successful teams that won Super Bowl is because
they have camaraderie.
So even though, you know, you establish yourself with the giants and you cut 93,
94, 95 balls, whatever, whatever.
But you still have to build a relationship with your quarterback,
your tight end, your receivers, and that's how you win.
So, you know, that's how you have to do in that situation.
So now that you've kind of seen free agency and all that play out,
where are you with the picket for?
Have you changed your mind on that?
No, no, no, I'm going with Jeremiah Love.
But now if our real Reese is there, then I'm going to take him because he's a monster.
But you have to have a situation to where you get a guy like Jeremiah Love.
I'm not saying Paula can't do it.
I'm not saying it.
But you want a home run hitter that takes the pressure off your quarterback.
Because if you look at, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs,
look at what they did this year.
Okay, we got homes is coming off injuries.
So what do we do?
We go and get, you know, the MVP of the Super Bowl is Walker.
They're running it because you can, you can pass the ball break during the season.
But when you start getting to the semi-January, you have to run the football.
And I think for Jeremiah Love with the Tennessee Times team to take the pressure off your quarterback,
you have to run the football.
So let's just say for a second, they take love at four.
Sure.
Tony Pollard could easily look at that and want to trade or want to be released or that.
Could it also be the opposite?
And it's like, all right, you want to bring this young kid in?
Let me show you what old man still can do.
You know, I always say this term is you got two choices to get better, get better.
And I'll never forget when they, when they brought Yankee, they can and they,
but they drafted Kevin Dyson.
I went from first to third like, man, hey, hey,
I made our, hey, I can play this game still.
So instead of me getting mad and get mad and get the coaches to get mad and at the organization.
So what I did is I said this and I said it to myself, I'm not going against him.
I'm going to place so well that they have to play me and put me back in the start of the
place. And so this is going to lie to fire up in politics.
I wouldn't even hold on.
I got a thousand yards this year.
I'm out of your 4.2 yards of rush and I've got a thousand yards.
So don't forget about me.
So that's going to push Jeremiah Love and it's going to help policy.
You know what?
I'm still here.
I'm here.
When you were playing,
did you ever get into it with an opposing coach?
Oh, uh, yes, I did.
You know, I think, oh my God.
Let us know.
I got to know this.
I was a, I was a rookie.
And we were playing the Minnesota Vikings.
And this is bad.
And this one, I was a knucklehead.
And I caught the ball and it comes like you had a pose.
And this is sad.
I threw the ball at him and I started punching him out.
That's what I want to say.
This one, I was a knucklehead.
And I just fooled him myself and I was just, this went a good dude.
I threw the ball.
I said, you saw it.
I said, that's why you barely said, he looked like, I mean, just, I'm like, wait a minute.
Why, why am I causing it in him?
He can't help me on the field.
So I did, I did yell at the closing coach and it was front of Minnesota Vikings.
What, what do you do now?
I mean, you've been coaching now for 20 plus shares.
If your player does that, you find out about it.
What do you do?
He's going to get jacked up period because the thing about is if you score a touchdown
and you're yelling at the coach and you, not because that's the reflection of the coach.
And I tell, I tell my receiver, I say, listen.
If you go out there and make plays and you do great things this and that,
but you're out of two sucks, then your life's going to smell.
I don't, I don't want that.
I want you to be a great man on the field.
I want you to be a great aunt to feel.
Yes, you're going to make mistakes.
But we're not going to catch a football and mark another coach because that's not what we,
what we represent.
We say that all the time until we get in the heat of battle.
But I, I will jack your behind up.
I will grab you by your shoulder pads.
I will grab you by your face.
And I will tell you to stay, sit next to me because that ain't what we do.
Oh, I love that.
Let me ask you this.
What happens when you're at NBA and you get a knock on your door and you look up.
And it's a guy that played for you seven years ago.
Oh, my God, it comes by to say hi to you.
Man, I love it.
Can I, can I get that story that I talked about last year?
Oh, last week, I remember, um, it was a guy named Sam Banks.
And, um, this is the way I talk about being a relationship with your players.
Is I remember we lost in the playoff game.
And I hugged him.
I said, man, why are you crying?
I said, you can't look at how far you come.
You got kicked at an end's worth and you came here.
You graduated from my Gary Bed Academy.
And I hugged him.
I said, you did everything right.
And he hugged me.
He said, coach, I'm not crying because we lost.
He says, I'm crying because you can't coach me anymore.
That's what it's all about.
Right.
That's what it's all about.
So when they knock on the door and say, coach, you know, thanks for coaching me.
That's the reason why I love the coach.
And yeah, I want to ring.
Yes, I want to win us through all those things are great because rings will rust
but relationships last forever.
Look at you.
What's the, I know we talk about this all the time.
But what's the one thing you want a guy who plays for you, who's moved on?
What's the one thing you want them to take with with them from you?
It doesn't, it doesn't matter how you start, but it's how you finish.
Because a lot of times, you know, because in my life, I'm, I'm just going to be
vulnerable. I made a lot of mistakes in life.
I made some bad, some, some bad choices that I want to take with them.
They listen, it doesn't matter how you start in life.
It all depends on where you finish it.
It's finished.
And this is a quote that I use other time.
It says the race is not given to the Swift.
It's the one that endures to the end.
So the key kids that I coach that even though it may get tough and even though you
may fall, you get up and win the race.
Why?
Because the race is not given to the Swift is given to the one that endures.
Oh, I love that.
Before you go real quick, there was a thing where I was going to give you about
Charles Barkley talking about.
Tom is a screaming and yelling at players and getting in their face and Barkley's
like, good, they need it.
And I know you just mentioned, I know there's a level now.
It's not the same.
You got to, but I think if we stop coaching kids hard and getting in their
face, I think that's a problem.
Yep.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Here's the thing is, is if you're coaching them hard to get better or you
coaching these guys and put fear in them.
There's, there's a difference.
Now, let me, I'm going to tell you this.
When I'm coaching football, I'm the loudest dude out there getting in their
face, but my message is I'm expecting you to be great.
I'm not going to crush you out.
I'm not going to crush you.
Talk about you.
I'm not going to do that because I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a dictator.
I'm a coach.
A coach coaches you up.
He demands you to be respect.
And I'm not talking about, hey, little Johnny, I love you.
How can I count the ways you're going to be great?
No, I'm like, dude, I need you to run this route.
I need you to be great.
I need you to block the safety.
Why?
Because I know it's in you.
See, my voice is still loud, but my message is different.
Yeah.
As a coach, it'll be one time.
He said, the day I stopped yelling at you is the day you need to worry.
I'm like, oh my god.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, but see, we got a generation to where like, you know, everybody wants to give
into them.
Nobody's going to give you anything.
I'm going to, I'm going to have them a developing you to a great wide receiver,
but I'm going to, I'm going to pull out greatness to you to where you change the world.
That's, that's why I coach.
Hey, man, brother.
That's why we love you, man.
I love you, man.
I love this.
Yeah, y'all, y'all just bring the best out of me.
Oh my gosh.
I love y'all.
I love, I love the, we love you too, Chris.
And we appreciate you joining us here each week and on the show.
And on, yeah, we'll talk to you next week.
Appreciate you better.
Thank you all so much.
Yes, sir.
So the Chris Sanders joining us on the program as he does every Friday at one o'clock.
By the way, I played a softball game with him and he had a dribbler into the outfield
and scored, I would have maybe gotten halfway between first and second.
He scored.
So when he tells you he's not fasting anymore, he's forever fast.
Oh, he is.
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