
Cholesterol, Heart Disease, and Why Plants Reverse It
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- MMichael Klaper M.D.Host
- RRalph MossHost
- MMark SloanHost
- WWill Tuttle Ph.D.Host
- JJohn McDougall M.D.Host
- PPam Popper Ph.D.Host
- GGabriel Cousens M.D.Host
- BBrian Clement Ph.D.Host
- AAnna Maria Clement Ph.D.Host
Marianne WilliamsonHost- SStephanie Seneff Ph.D.Host
- LLloyd BurrellHost
- MMichael Greger M.D.Host
- CCaldwell Esselstyn M.D.Host
- KKeith Block M.D.Host
- BBrenda Davis R.D.Host
Gerald PosnerHost- JJeffrey SmithHost
- TTheodora ScaratoHost
- JJulieanna Hever M.S.Host
- IIan Harris M.D.Host
- NNeil Barnard M.D.Host
- MMelanie Joy Ph.D.Host
- BBaxter Montgomery M.D.Host
- VVandana Shiva Ph.D.Host
- AAly Cohen M.D.Host
- MMilton Mills M.D.Host
- WWilliam Li M.D.Host
- DDavid Katz M.D.Host
- DDale Bredesen M.D.Host
- HHope BohanecHost
- KKim Williams M.D.Host
- MMichelle Perro M.D.Host
- DDavid WolfeHost
- JJoel Kahn M.D.Host
- CColin Campbell Ph.D.Host
- SSunil Pai M.D.Host
- JJoel Fuhrman M.D.Host
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There's no fun on your dreams. There's no color. And I'll talk about why that's important. But just from a simple standpoint, when we look at foods, get the sit back and say, hey, when I want to see my doctor, my naturopath, my chiropractor, my MD or my specialist, did they ever give me a pill that was made from chicken? No, pork, no fish, no dairy, no eggs, no beef, no lamb. They never gave me a pill from that that is preventing and reversing or treating a disease. So a lot of people think, I need to have this. I need to have this. But then when we're giving medicines, those medicines are from plants. Now we make them synthetic. But even when we look at antioxidants and find nutrients, they all come from plants. So let me talk about that. Plant protein, super high in antioxidants, but even higher in phytonutrients. So you can just see all this color. Going back here, like this, as you can tell, there's no color, no phytonutrients, phytonutrients, phyto, meaning plant, right? So these are all the amazing, colorful compounds. Now when we think of
and anybody does research looking at heart disease, look at diabetes, you look at Alzheimer's disease, look at cancer, regardless of what type of cancer you have, all you'll hear when you see things that are reversing, slowing cancer cell progression, changing cancer cell metabolism, strengthening immune system, strengthening your microbiome, carat noise, beta-carotene, lycopene, luteens, xxanthene, flavonoids, anthrosinins, isoflavones, cachetins, all the sulforophane, all the reserved tall and carcubans. These are all phyto nutrients. There's none of those in animal proteins and saturated fats, right? So it's funny because you'll see a lot on the internet, especially in the last 10 years. Social media influencers, cancer, survivor celebrities, and these pseudo, what I call pseudo doctors that are promoting, you know, more of a paleo keto diet, trying to make it cleaner. And then they will show you an antioxidant formula, a green drink, a red drink, and a fiber supplement, right? And you all probably have seen it. I see it all
the time in my feed. It's like, oh, you know, eat like this because, you know, plant foods are bad and you need to eat more protein. And then yet, but here's my fiber, here's my, here's my antioxidant pill. Here's my, here's my fight on nutrient pill, right? But you should be actually eating it. Most of the medicines that we give that prevent, reverse, and treat disease come from these things, right? And so you have to look at, like instead of just going to eat them, what we do with our patients, by the way, is that when we test them, the test will tell us then, you know, what you might be lower deficient in. And then we look at whether they have a sensitivity to that food or not, whether that's something that they can add to their diet, just by food wise, because you want the whole food as much as possible, right? And then supplements are supplementing the diet. They're not replacing the diet. But if I have a patient that has, for example, cancer or chronic disease, I have to avoid redundancy. Most people are, for example, taking a vitamin C and their, and their vitamin C levels are great because already eating vitamin C rich foods. What you want to be doing is you want to be testing adding foods back into the diet that are deficient and then supplementing to fill in the gaps. Supplements should be finding targeted
areas of the body, which is what we're good at doing is looking at, especially with the cancer patient, is targeting the pathways that we just can't get with eating the foods or that we need more to get a pharmaceutical effect. But most people come in my office, they're taking at least 10, sometimes 20 supplements, about eight to 10 pharmaceutical drugs, right? That's the average person walking in and they're not feeling good. And their disease is not under control. And, you know, they're sick and tired of being sick and tired, right? But the idea is that if they're taking something, they're eating something, then we want to avoid the redundancy. You need to be putting your money where your food is and then we need to be targeted by having some guidance, which we help provide, of giving those nutrients that are helpful at reversing, preventing and treating diseases. So next we want to look at the microbiome. The microbiome is everything. Okay? There's more research right now. We're just at the tip of the iceberg of understanding microbiome. An interesting thing is that when we look at microbiome, we have to look at how we feeding it. Because a lot of these people who are saying paleo, keto, or cleaner food is that
they just don't understand microbiome. Because you just can't just eat a couple of vegetables and have a heavy animal protein diet, even if it's cleaner and say that you're supporting a microbiome. You're not. And in fact, there's no fiber in animal protein or saturated fats. Even though in the data and the questions that have been given out there in the last 10 years, 10 to 30 percent of the population actually think that there's fiber in animal protein. So there's like a huge misconception. There's none. Zero. Not a none. Absolutely zero. Right? So this is a big problem because it's just that basic understanding. And in this, some of these people are doctors by the way, right? So like I'm not explaining the public, like the people who should be educating the public, which are practitioners. But remember, most people didn't get, you know, maybe a few hours of nutrition in the medical school. I was lucky enough. I was I actually thought it was weird because a lot of a lot of my other colleagues, you know, from other schools made fun of me. But my school, we actually had a whole semester of nutrition, right? Because nutrition was important for us and where I went to school because it was a way of what we considered public health being a priority,
especially when you live in a place or you're living a country or a here in the United States, you can live in a state that's very poor, right? And we don't have access. We don't have a male clinic in our backyard, for example. And so we have to be dependent on making food medicine, right? We just can't send someone to the top facility. And most people, depending on where you live, and most people live in rural America, we don't live right next to the, you know, a big hospital facility. We have to be pushing more of nutrition and prevention. So when we look at dysbiosis, endotoxins, LPS and, you know, increasing unfriendly bacteria, this is coming higher in animal proteins and just the opposite, you know, your whole gut is feeding wonderfully with plant-based proteins. So let's take a look at fiber. What is fiber? So they're soluble and insoluble fiber, and they, you know, there's two different types, but it comes from eating a variety of plant foods, all plant foods have fiber, right? And it kind of creates the bulk in the stool. It actually helps movement, the peristals that you've got. It lowers inflammation, right? So just studies on
just increasing fiber in the diet by eating plant foods, a side of all the fiber nutrients, a side of all the antioxidants, a side of all the wonderful things I'm going to talk about today. It lowers inflammation, lowers blood sugar. So if you have a, if you have diabetes or you have insulin resistance, increasing fiber slows down glucose rising from the meal that you're eating, right? And when people are eating ultra-refined processed foods and sugar and all these animal proteins, it's just like spikes their blood sugar because there's zero fiber, right? So then they're just taking all of this kind of what I call garbage nutrients and it jacks their blood sugar up, right? And then they get this insulin resistance and diabetes problem. And if you have a cholesterol problem, you want to be eating the fiber. And in fact, you know, there's drugs that they give to help bind the, the bind the cholesterol, but you just need to be eating more of the fiber to help take that out. One thing that we do with our patients is just letting you know, is that some people, you know, 90% of people that have cholesterol problem, okay, which is most of everybody in America has too much intake, okay? But then 5% are actually super producers. We actually test that. Is their body producing? And then there's a little bit of a genetic component. It's like, yeah,
this, my levels are high. And even if they're playing based, if they're a super producer, their body's producing more, we still have to give them natural therapies to lower it down, right? Because it's always about risk reduction. It's not about perfection. It's about reduction. It's about reducing your risk of dying from the normal cause of death, which is our disease, right? And then another 5% of people are actually what they call super absorbers. Their body actually absorbs in the small intestine, more fats than normal. So I got patients who are even plant-based, they eat a little bag of kettle potato chips, for example, right? It could be organic for all that matters. And they can have a cholesterol of 300, right? So we have to understand like, but how do they lower that level is lowering the intake, but also increasing more the soluble fiber in their diet, rather than taking like a drug like cholesterol, staramine or anything like that or any kind of blocker. And you just want to help that bind, the fiber will bind the cholesterol. And so for eating cholesterol, even with a heavier, rich, or fatty, or food, then that's one way to help lower some of that absorption. Now more importantly, for those people who are pushing paleo and keto diets, or you know, you need to eat animal protein, what they don't understand,
because again, the understanding of microbiome is very limited in terms of it hasn't been really totally understood until more recently, where we're again, where the tip of the iceberg, we're learning more and more every day. But the gut bacteria, the four pounds of over a thousand species of probiotics that you have, okay? They actually consume fiber to produce what they call short chain fatty acids. This is their energy. It's like the co-Q10 of your gut. This energy in turn turns into what they call butyrate. And the butyrate then improves your body's ability to detoxify. It is the cellular energy that the microbiome utilizes. So when people eat a low fiber diet, they're eating a high animal protein, which is constipation in America, then they increase all these prone flammatory triggers. The body can't break down and digest it. That's why it still sits in the colon. That's why people have constipation. And that's why people are taking supplements and, you know, you know, mirror laks and fiber products and stool softeners because they're just not
getting enough of the healthy natural products that have fiber that actually feed their bacteria. Okay? It improves the healthy microbiome. It lowers the infections. I'll talk about that next. It maintains the gut barrier. I'll talk about that next. And it improves dangerous hormones and toxins from the body. And in fact, I was just reading a study yesterday showing that when people eat oatmeal, right, which is fiber, but also a certain type of fiber product called beta-glucans, which I've done a lecture before on this program. Looking at, you know, we give something called glucan 300. That's more for your immune system. We're looking at kind of strengthening your immune system. But beta-glucans are coming from oatmeal, barley's another one, and mushrooms, right? But if someone eats about about a cup of oatmeal a day, for forever chemicals, most of you've heard of poofas and poofos, right? Those are the things in the pans that we're not supposed to be using, but it's an all sorts of retardants and, you know, things that are like, you know, waterproof and clothing and materials and that all washes in the waterways. It's even found in fresh streams in
the mountains. So it's everywhere around the world. We see forever chemicals higher concentration in animal proteins. But when they study it in patients, in the average person will have forever chemicals for at least five years in the body from the exposure. It takes five years to get out. And in the studies, when they gave patients more fiber, particularly that had higher beta-glucan content in those patients, it reduced that level in their body 60% in three months. Now, how impressive is that? We want to clean up the water. Unfortunately, they took out the clean water rack last week, which is a disaster. So we want to like, you know, make sure the water is reverse osmosis or have some kind of special filtration system, which unfortunately is disparaging because not everybody can afford these things or have the access to that. But that is what we need. But we also need to be eating some of these foods more importantly, because if not, we are by accumulating those kind of toxins and then they have higher risks of cancer and other dysfunctions, right? And it modulates the immune function, right? Because again, as I mentioned before, beta-glucans, which are in some of these natural foods, right? When we kind of take it out and we standardize it, we can actually
immodulate them, means some even more if they need to have that support. So what fiber does, this is kind of a simple diagram, but here's your liver. Everything that you eat goes through that master filter, right? After digestion. And then as it goes through again, the bile salts that it comes from the gallbladder, it binds to all these fats, it binds to all the toxins, and then you excrete it out. But if you have a low fiber diet, which is most of America, by the way, is it's called entro hepatic circulation. It's a recycling. So when people are constipated, why the stools get really, really hard and they're trying to, you know, they're trying to put, they're trying to take a softener, they got to take, you know, all these kind of lubricants, like marylax, which is actually a deicer of a plane, basically, polypylic glycol, whatever, 3, 3, 9, 9, those are just things that, you know, are lubricants, by the way, when the stools gets harder, what's happening is the body's recycling. It's re-concentrating all the toxins and all the materials. So some is eating a pro-inflammatory diet, and also we're getting exposed to toxins, which is everybody
unfortunately, and they also have food sensitivities, which most people will have, and they're constipated, then this inflammation is going over, and the toxicity is going over and over around and around and around and around. So this increases more inflammation, more chronic disease, higher received cancer. Animal proteins have no fiber. So chicken beef, pork, you know, dairy, salmon, wild caught, the free range, grass fed, no fiber. So again, here's the interesting fact, is that 95%. So when you hear something like 95%, that's a lot, right?
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