Chinese ESPIONAGE at the US BORDER | EXPOSING CCP Border Smuggler Networks

0:00September 11 2.0 is just minute could be right now could be 10 years 20 years. It's going to happen. They are here. They are all here. It's going to be very bad. But what we learned from September 11th and agencies working together has been just completely unraveled or blockaded. And I want to give you a good example. I'm not going to say who it is. There's a task force that three different people from this task force have talked with me without he conflicting with each other like they didn't know that we existed. And then I say hey why don't you call this guy before you come talk to me. And they are in the same task force. That should scare the shit out of everyone. Welcome to the show first and foremost here at ArmyVat like you already said. Founder of Goat Initiative working on human trafficking along the southern border. Randomly came across you

1:04actually on X and was really thankful I did you have the genius idea of taking all of these cell phones that you found you're able to get inside of them. I heard your your story about plugging the Chinese cell phone into your your house and using it there which I have to commend you for that level of bravery. But you know I can talk a lot about I can tell you some stories about Chinese cell phones and deployments but we'll say that for other times. And but anyway welcome to the show man I would love to start at the talk walk walk me into how you wound up getting involved and reporting on this stuff and deciding you're going to start Goat Initiative. So yeah the beginning was very weird so my wife and I had just had a baby when we left we lived in the outskirts of the city it's an in San Diego it's called Elca Home it's another city right outside of San Diego and we were tired of dealing with the homeless problem so we're

2:06like let's go move further east so get some land it's it's nose up here we get we get all the seasons here yeah we're about a 4,000 feet elevation so it's great and I love it we got found a place in California in San Diego County 47 acres that we had a house that we could afford like yeah let's let's do it right I'm gonna have my own shooting range here it's if you guys were dropped here right now you'd be like wait this is not California that's that's what I that's how I how I like it so we had been here for a very short amount of time and my wife's like hey look at the neighborhood Facebook page it says there's a large group of Chinese people walking down the freeway like what yeah sure and then they know oh look I'm looking so hop the truck drive like two minutes down the road there's a large group of fucking Chinese people walking down the freeway now where I live you are most of the people that live out here are very white very

3:13native American or very messy so our group of Chinese people is like did it there's lots of buses that come through so my first thought was okay maybe a bus broke down two or buzz or something the Chinese tour group so my first thought was very innocent right like cool they had their luggage it looked like they just got it literally looked like they were on a tour bus but when I pulled it up there's no bus anywhere then then Border Patrol pulls up behind me and he hops out and he looks at me stand next to me he looks at me and it's like it's going on man like I don't I don't know you tell me what's going on and looking back now that interaction makes complete sense because that's still the situation today almost like three more almost four years later so I didn't I didn't really start getting involved then I was just kind of confused

4:15and still learning my neighbors at that point we had been we just moved in so I'm talking to them and I was talking to the neighbors like is this this normal for here I mean I'm from here there's no way this is normal because we're used to normal illegal alien traffic from Latin America and everybody's used to that here where you go go to Home Depot and they're right out front of Home Depot it's just normal it's what I go up right now you go to Home Depot my my gun store you know cones right next to Home Depot and there are no Mexicans no Central American South Americans it's all military age males from African countries which is very very weird and and and 80 there's a lot of patience so I didn't get involved until I know most people

5:20know that we have really bad fires in California so I saw smoke one day drove it was it wasn't popping up on any of the apps that I have so I drove down there and there were about 10 fires and a couple hundred illegal aliens standing there just letting the brush on fire you know piling it up making a fire to stay warm and I pay like a thousand almost a thousand bucks a month for home insurance because of fire danger right so I have my dad with me that that my dad was up at the house helping me with some stuff so he drove out there and when I pulled up a border patrol agent pulled behind me and blocked me in and then I see I'm I'm we're trying to figure out what the hell's going on obviously they're here obviously they're making some sort of warming fire getting ready for the night because it's going to be cold and windy and then border patrol comes up and we're just talking and this

6:24fire starts to the wind catches it it starts to run and towards my truck and border patrols I don't know 100 yards away talking to some people so I get in the border patrol agents vehicle and I back it up so my dad could back up my truck get it out of the way and then we like hey do you have a fire extinguishering your truck I gave mine to my dad and he's trying to put it out border patrol didn't have one and at that point I'm like yeah this is not this is not going to work for me I pay a thousand bucks a month for fire insurance and we're just letting where's cal fire nowhere to be right what what year is this 2020 end of 2021 beginning of 22 I believe okay so and I was going to ask you what what how far away from your house are you at this point this is just a couple miles away yeah okay far enough to close enough to see just campfire now obviously that it's black smoke because they're burning stuff and not supposed to be burning but

7:27sure yeah there were a few of them so I was I was pretty pissed off at that point you'd said before that this is what you'd experience with those 200 Chinese walking up the road and the sort of cluelessness from the border patrol guy that is still kind of the same these two guys just not getting intel the way that they should as far as people coming across the border is that what sort of keep in this ignorance that's a challenging question to answer there are a lot of very good border patrol agents I'm friends with a lot of very good border patrol agents but I think we have to look at the makeup of the border patrol so what happened during the Biden administration when they just let all of these people through really pissed off a lot of guys my ATF agent from at the gun store is a former border patrol agent and some's really got to be bad for you to go from border patrol to ATF right I give we give it what kind of shit for

8:30that so as you should just a perfect example though what things were so bad you're going to go be at ATF agent right right but a lot of people so you had a lot of new guys who just did what they were told which it's this is kind of by design at this point seeing it now and then the guys in the middle they either went to specialized jobs or they took their federal their federal credentials and went to ATF or any of the other agencies right then the guys at the top retired they're retired early or they just retired because they they weren't going to deal with it so you have a force now that it they're between one it obviously this is an absolute right so but you have a force now that they're between they've been on the job for between zero and four years and they

9:31just do exactly what they're told they don't ask questions five years ago the border patrol if you needed some somebody to track somebody you would call you guys right and did you could go to the christ did you go to the border patrol tracking school or do you guys have your own no i didn't uh the bulk of the tracking that i know just comes from the basic sear course but yeah so i know the seals here i don't know if they still do but they used to go with border patrol like kind of like a ride along but there would be a many many course that they would do with tracking with border patrol it's bad as i don't think it's like that anymore the you'd that is a perishable skill that you need to be using every day and when the the guys that have been in for you know five to 15 years they left and then the guys have been there 15 to however many years they're gone who's teaching you right you're touching on a you're touching on a big problem

10:36right this is something you see in the military the guys rotate out in and out all the time they retire and especially now like g-watt generation is getting older a lot of these combat veterans are going to start getting out and there's a lot of leadership that's walking out the door there it matters and a big way it creates a giant vacuum of institutional knowledge yeah it's frustrated because i can you know we continue to see all this money being sent all over the world when we need that money here in our own country to we have so many q-watt veterans that would love to help secure their own nation right no kidding and they have the skills to do it why are we not using funding for something like that i've talked about this for a long time actually i think you've ever brought it up on a on a podcast that why is there not a border patrol reserve hmm that's actually really smart i mean border patrol has special forces don't they there's three people right here that could do it special operations yeah absolutely um and maybe that just

11:40means you lived here the border and you get a radio maybe that's all it is they used to do that back of the day but now radio says you guys know our sensitive items so right yeah these are become such a bureaucratic mess that you can't even give the fucking local guy a radio so he has to call the same numbers that everybody else and uh this was during right around christmas time the locals have resorted to calling me rather than calling border patrol because i pick up my phone sometimes the phone the phone numbers don't even work so the local called me a couple of times i remember just sitting there in my pajamas and phone drinking and phone drinking like what i answer it and it's the guy down the road he's like hey i got a mom and and kid here in the clubhouse it's a shooting club down the road and border patrols just don't answer the phone i've called like 20 times you have somebody you can call i called all the guys that i knew were not working that day

12:41called station ring ring just kept ringing so i went down there and uh i knew that i would probably run into a border patrol agent on the way there and i did and um as i'm because i was a mom and a kid i was more interested than normal because sometimes the cartel will send children with a lone female and they will pretend it's their kid but it's actually not um sorry i thought my dude on district was on and it's not working it's okay so i went down there talk to them for about five minutes and then saw saw an agent when i was in the area and i said hey can you give me a couple minutes i'm gonna go talking to these people but you've got people down here and he goes yeah yeah sure okay i never met the guy before so he gave me a couple minutes i interviewed them they seemed harmless like i pictures of all their stuff pictures of their faces and uh he picked them up

13:44but why are they calling me why is there not a number for locals there they're just some really simple simple things that we could be doing and we're not doing and it's it drives me insane do you feel like the bureaucracy is the point to drive this sort of incompetence i think that wasn't made overnight this has taken decades for things to become this entangled in nonsense and unless we ask these organizations and start from the beginning mm-hmm i don't i don't see a good solution to untangling this massive bureaucratic web throughout the entire government mm-hmm well you're essentially out there doing their job for them because you've created a bunch of inroads to gather your own intel you've developed relationships with people to where they trust you now to call either rather than the actual

14:46organizations that they should be calling um how did you get to that point where the trust that people should have in the institution is now sort of put in you and what you're doing with goat initiative like like walk us back and then lead us into like how did you get into establishing goat and being this person so i guess we're talking about the name because everybody always asks me that so uh the goat initiative is is a you know it's a kind of a weird name right but if i went to we're talking about nsc earlier if i showed up in Montana and and saw all my friends there they they probably don't know my real name they i go by goat and i have forever in the army all my army friends but i showed up they'd be like who the hell's court all right i just went with it when i was trying to come up with the name got you um and then there's a lot you know there's a bunch of different plot play on words that you could use create a small time initiative but uh so to answer your question i am one of them i am a local

15:48they're my neighbors so that's how it started i started right you know right here and then it just kind of went out and then people realized that i was trying to trying to light on the situation and and make sure that i couldn't get local media out here like i could not get them out here it was and uh it's about maybe 45 minutes from there's from their stations drive but they wouldn't send a news van out to cover any of this stuff so things just kept not making any sense over and over the chinese people and the fires and where's cal fire and then where's the new where's the media so i'm all right i'm just start taking pictures of the stuff and taking videos and posting them and it uh kind of blew up pretty fast and i didn't intend to do any of this stuff um but the trust comes from them seeing me all the time and then i

16:49took uh i go going back to geowat right i took a play from the green breeze i'm like okay i'm doing this why do i try to take over the north side of the border because we've lost that the united states government has lost the north side of the border it'll take decades their generations to repair the damage done and the damage that's continued to be done because they're going through right now and um eminent domain using eminent domain to take people's property to build the wall instead of coming through and going we're going to give you double we're going to give you five times what fair marker value is and we're going to give you a radio now they're just coming in and saying fuck you we're building the wall after hundreds of thousands of people went through these people's property right who's in the right mind thinks that's a good idea eminent domain is such a

17:49piece of shit law i i i don't agree with it at all and it's super frustrating like just the idea that the federal government can come in and be like this is mine now because i need it and here's pennies on the dollar get you know gtfo like that's a travesty and it ought to be it ought to be outlawed the other part of the two is like i've said man like the the fact that the border is this out of control the we could take the us military and push five miles into mexico and demilitarize the shit out of it and then build a wall out away from people's property and not have to internet eminent domain and then turn all of you guys that live there on the border like you said into into these signals essentially and deputize people like you or allow you to create a border militia or have a border reserve like you said like these are just no brain or things it's not taking advantage of the resources that we already have available to us which is which is ironically a symptom of bureaucracy that you're talking about anyway because bureaucracy just breeds more bureaucracy it's it you know we established this one process to fix this other process and that's

18:53not working so we're going to have a process to fix the process to fix the process that's like okay but you know i'm right here i'm a g1 bit yeah exactly oh yeah we have to hire two two people to do report and they need five people to do the printing and all that stuff yeah exactly so it's for us it's just easy solutions right but and maybe the reserve is just a um observe in report maybe we just start there here's the after you're right line you live here um if you see something say something now i know that won't work well because like i said they've lost the north side of the border so what back to what uh i was saying about the green braids i'm like you know what why don't i i could i remember this is kind of how it started was and i wasn't thinking this far into it when i did it i was just being a good neighbor the guy there's there are these border dogs it's border horses border cows there's there's everything these border dogs go back and forth and this guy

19:54on our side um kind of took them on and they were warning him of people coming across great great asset for him he doesn't have any money so i would bring him dog food and then something clicked i'm like you know what this is what the green braids do i'm just start bringing these people shit and i'm going to be their best friends and they're going to tell me everything because i'm a local i'm one of them i'm going to embed myself here born i mean i live here i'm already done that but i'm just going to turn it up a little bit i'm going to get some donations when i get the donations we will um a guy's truck broke down but i brought him a starter he needed a starter in a battery um there it is just so easy for me to do because i'm here they see my face all the time now if the government was going to try to do that even if uh i just i just particularly remember some i think it was a national geographic they did on green braids

20:55you know probably 20 on 20 something years 25 years ago i remember the the commander who's a captain and he would go meet with the local leaders and he would take his helmet off and take his glasses off right if bourgeois did that with the locals they'd probably fucking shoot him damn they've lost it completely that's insane that's yeah now i mean Chris you could talk about into that way more than i can absolutely with those relationships and how those relationships are built right i mean there's you're talking about a lot of work right Chris yeah i mean he's he's like the UW terminology for it is like building up an auxiliary but you're absolutely right like you're just you're meeting with like what we would call key leaders or just people that have access and placement because they're there on the border like that's where they live and then you're just building facetime relationships with them just by and and it's not even that complicated for you because like you said like i'm one of them like i'm one of you guys like

21:58what you're doing is just really being what we call back in the day just being a good neighbor and taking care of your own community by in order to to serve the end of your organization for what you're talking about yeah you're you're building up an auxiliary if people that have access and placement in the area and then just asking them to continue doing what they do which is just protect their own community by you know passing information to you um which yeah it's rocket science by any means it's it's actually sort of wild oh sorry go ahead quirk well i was to see you said serving the end which is my organization but it's not the end is the country the country's lost this and we need to keep it you know i don't we this is the dumbest business plan i've ever had because i keep fucking paying to have this right so it doesn't really doesn't serve us at all but it serves my children in the future yeah right and the the placement is key leaders excuse me key leaders is not as important for us as placement and where these people are

23:03right because so as you were talking about about that i was thinking okay well what if what if the local board of patrol what if they got a new leadership and then they came to my house and talked to me they're like yeah nice to meet you thank you and then they will leave when i go that was fucking retarded well well why what's the point of that that guy's gonna be gone any year waste my time i fucking live here i got a 30 year mortgage not going anywhere well what i was gonna say is like what Chris was describing like about being a good neighbor it sounds novel what you're doing but i think it sounds that way because we're so far removed from the idea and concept of a militia in the way that it was intended originally it doesn't just mean getting your buddies and some rifles and muskets and and banding together and training like that's part of it but what you're doing actually is building a cohort of people who trust you and that you can trust and you guys are keeping your community safe that's literally the whole point of that and you're doing it in real time and it sounds rare because it is in nowadays but like this is

24:05this literally the intent of the second amendment right is what you're carrying out i want to be very careful with that though because we worked very hard to distance ourselves from these more rogue militia type groups that's what i don't use that i agree with sir yeah certainly not yeah implying that yeah absolutely this concept of of community leadership and community protection what you're talking about if we you know think think think think of settling the west right you guys establish a township and you and the other men in your community uh set up you know a security onion you're keeping the town safe you guys develop a means of communication you know ways to report all of this stuff that's what you're doing like that's just the way that it has been done for a long time and we've sort of um exported all of those responsibilities to the federal government who have absolutely abdicated those responsibilities so of course it's falling down on men like you who have the ability of training from being a veteran a GY veteran uh and the leadership skills

25:06to just go and do it and that's that's what i'm saying not that i don't mean like militia in the way you know like to you to protect what you're doing absolutely it's not the way i intend to say you're you're leading your community is the point of what i'm getting at it it's funny listening to you explain it in depth and it sounds very technical and very um very thought out right but like Chris you were saying i'm i'm just being a fucking neighbor makes it really easy i was being myself talking on the neighbors and getting the information that's about as technical as i get well i think i think that's a really good jumping off point uh and maybe for anybody that's that's hearing about the go to initiative for the first time tonight can you give us the scope of what your organization is and and what you guys are doing yeah so kind of frame it in i would uh i would encourage everybody go to go to initiative.org there's lots of information on there it is very difficult to explain everything that we have done in hard brewing because a lot of it

26:10we can't talk about i'm not saying that to people to be douchey um it's there's just a lot of things that are obsec related or or there are cases that we've been helping out with um it does sound douchey not though now that i think about that uh we get you um so okay so what what we started out doing was just you know monitoring situation taking pictures taking videos i was posting um and then now where we're at we have um about 50 plus let's call them verbal MOUs so so nothing nothing um on paper on working directly with us right but we we are able to get back into some of these areas that we're not necessarily supposed to be in because they know that the information that we get will be passed to the appropriate people so a lot of this goes back to um

27:13brana what you were saying where it's just men being men so if big border patrol had any idea some of the stuff that we were doing we would be we would have been shut down a long time ago but other men are going these guys are doing stuff that's out of our purview but it's not in anyone else's purview maybe we should just let them go do their thing and that has been extremely valuable for us and the country so let me give you an example this passport that's just laying right here where this is from Bangladesh i think people's Republic of Bangladesh this is one of the hundreds from thousands that we found let's say i picked this up and it's it is uh just to make it somewhat right this is a Somal Bin Laden and he came in and for some reason he left it well this is better this is

28:15Muhammad Arafat Hossein just a lot of names probably a good dude here for a better life right totally probably a doctor where is he from praise place of birth no cally i don't know whether it is um so let's let's say this was Somal Bin Laden and i go okay this is important i call Washington directly and they'll send somebody here to come pick this up tomorrow okay now let's pretend i'm cori the board of troll agent and i picked this up well first of all i'm not going to pick it up because it's going to make my day longer because then i have to deal with it where there's not really a good process too date for them to deal with this in my opinion the easiest thing to do would need to get a trash can and put it at the station and say everybody put all the shit that you find in there because that's better than nothing but then what would happen to it well i found out what happened to it from a customer

29:19he was the guy excuse me though it's tasked out to uh shred all the documents money passports, personificates, everything and i said you guys put it into a database or something first right he said no it was taking up too much space and they asked me to shred all of it so i it's about the whole day shredding everything let's insane i had a feeling that that's what was going on but i i didn't have any proof so Joe can't uh sorry i'm going off of topic after question but Joe can't recently said there was about 18,000 known terrorists in this country um i think we think it's probably at least double that just based off of the known meaning all the documents they shredded are unknown all the godaways are unknown right there's all unknowns um i've been cross referencing this stuff with Sarah Adams

30:23if i find anything that's that maybe something that she's looking for i will send it over to her but uh okay back to my example so you're the borrower so as you pick this up what do you what do you do with it you bring it back to the station it's also a bit long you go hey sir here's a password and he goes uh i got my kids got a baseball game tomorrow i don't have time to deal with that shit or whatever how long is it going to take for it to get to Washington if ever and that's one of the big places where we've come in we're we're the kind of the middleman there the uh the go around yeah well you're you're filling in a gap uh it's not just in competence you're talking about it i i can sort of relate to that because i was a cop in the air force for almost 15 years and it what you were describing right remind me of like bust busting a party right and you've got maybe three or four patrolman on duty and you've got 40 people at the barracks that you've got a process and every single one of those people gets their

31:27own individual report they require their own individual processing and you've got six hours lift and shift and there's absolutely no way you're going to get through 40 people and so what happens you call a first sergeant maybe you drunk tank some people who are really blown uh everybody else is handed off to the first sergeant no reports are filed nothing that happened is documented and that's sort of the end of it but the what you're describing is an extreme because you're talking about something that has national security implications and people that are coming into the country you have no idea about and this is the the institution that the average American citizen is expecting to be doing something about this and to know like you said there's shredding all these documents because they a don't want to deal with it or maybe they don't have the capability to with the the sheer amount that you're finding it's just like well what's the point in having a process you know you guys like you said you're filling in a gap but you shouldn't have to necessarily right but you you you are and we just happen to be at the wrong place at the right time I guess

32:29I guess I'm kind of curious what like you you described you watched all of these fires getting started from your home and you realized that these are all these illegals that were building fires to stay warm what what you started finding or necessarily when this became really serious for you with evidence wise what you were discovering and then reaching out higher above you to garner necessary attention for this like what what were you finding or what necessarily inspired you to actually take this deeper and become more proactive than you already were like more proactive are you guys able to throw up a video while we're going or no yeah Chris did you move or did you want to throw up a specific video yeah we got the video ready here let's start with the one with the fires that you were talking about at the top of the show so we can just kind of show everybody what you meant so the the camera that we're using on that's this fire video is a color night vision they're not too expensive they're actually really cool and I'm sure that you guys probably knew this before I did but you're the the light art that your cell phone uses to lock on your face and unlock your

33:32screen shows up from very far distance away and we didn't know that and we kept seeing flashes on this camera what the hell is that and then we saw a group of six to 100 people and just flashes everywhere I mean look like we're at the Super Bowl or something flashes everywhere I'm not going to lie even when you were talking about this at the top of the show this is crazier than I was even thinking about like this is a this looks like a bonfire right like you'd be having on the weekend a group of friends this is a lot of people that's nuts that's just one that's just one of yeah well you say one of many yeah we tell loads of you'll you'll see I'm just waiting on you guys to tell me to play it yeah let's see play wow yeah so all those embers just going up and here's the best part those plants in the background a lot of those are man's Anita which are protected here in California I think I was you know if I were to go cut the man's Anita in my house

34:38and burn them that burns people have told me that it burns really hot and for a while yes so if I were to do that and get caught I would get fined yeah I also can't this is the best part of this story so I after a couple days of watching this I call Cal fire and I said hey what are we doing about these fires like I cannot have a fire at my house what are we doing they said oh well we can't give them a ticket because we don't know where to send it they don't have an address okay okay let me I'm not gonna repeat that back to you but I want to clarify that you could just go out there with a hose and put that wet stuff on the red stuff right or we can't do that

35:41those are warming fires I said what is a warming fire well if you have a warming fire that's not technically illegal and I said I'm still not tracking man so if I go on my backyard right now and I go roast marshmallows with my kids can I do that well you yeah you can do that but you know you have to have a lid on it and if an ember takes off and catches your neighbor's house on fire you're gonna be liable I'm like are you not seeing the correlation here man what what is confusing about this I said well okay here's my address I give my address I said can you write that down can you make sure that you put this into your computer system please if there's ever a fire not on the actual structure of my house but in like the backyard or something I want you to make sure that everyone knows it's a fucking warming fire you are ever

36:43show up at my fucking house unless it's a structure no we can't do that can't do that sir you're actually I'm not I'm not laughing yeah I was I was gonna say I'm not laughing to make light of what you're saying or make light of the situation I'm I'm laughing to keep from being angry because that is such peak bureaucratic American government you Mr. Taxpayer you will follow the law do you understand me or I will find your ass but all all these people that are just marching over the border right like they know they can do whatever they want it's fine yeah well what I was gonna say about it is it like it reminds me of the the law about being able to hunt if you're stranded if it's out of season you kill a deer for survival right you're not gonna get in trouble but this isn't that this is a fire that burns anywhere it doesn't matter it's gonna affect something you know it's it's nothing you can control and you're you're saying it's bureaucracy to me I work for the state

37:49of California okay and I work you you could call me yeah I can't really do anything about it uh you know I don't work in that department you know what I mean yeah no what I'm getting at is is I leave a think it's bureaucracy I think that this is what it's like obviously it's the bureaucracy at play but it's a weaponized in competence it a lot the bureaucracy allows these people to weaponize their incompetence they know better they're giving you the law to protect them because they know that they can't do anything and it's this is this is sort of the frog in the pot of boiling water you know this these laws get gradually more dumb as time goes on and nobody does anything to change it because they seem like they're not gonna matter you like the thought process behind this to somebody who has never been out in the field doing anything is like oh it's a warming fire somebody is keeping themselves alive well that sounds good right well at the end of the day you Joe citizen out there trying to protect your property from somebody on the other side

38:52of the border as if in this situation that fire is gonna stop at the imaginary line on the ground it isn't it's it's a you know it's a total failure of the laws we have in this country that are meant to protect you as a person and rather they're they're putting you in a box that keeps you in trouble you know I think the frog in the boiling water is a perfect perfect example of that because but in this case the frogs are gay right southern border frogs don't you know those are those are immigrant fires immigrant fires are good now sure can you imagine some like seven-year-old division chief answering the phone and and saying that no you wouldn't but who was it who was some new guy that's just doing what he's told right and that's the failure of this fucking country is everybody's just doing their job right man well that that you could take that to so many you could take that to so many different extremes right like you could take it to like the extreme of a war

39:57crime I was just doing my job or I was just falling orders there could be something like this and unfortunately I think so many people have gotten this mindset of why should I involve myself when things seem like they're not making sense anymore because I'm just going to get myself in trouble I could go home I have all the nice warm liquis and chouis that I could ever want and it's not going to affect me that's this it's a stupid human thing we think like it's happening over there like it's never gonna touch me ever and that's not true you know eventually it will it goes excuse me it goes right back to the neighbor thing if you knew your neighbors you wouldn't allow that to happen to your neighbor but you don't know your neighbors so you don't give a shit it's a great point they these people aren't men they aren't making care of their community their local community they aren't taking care of their immediate neighbors I mean if you knew

40:57two or three houses two or three houses to the right and everybody knew all of those this would be a much greater country but we just we don't seem to care anymore and where I live it's great if somebody needs the you know the neighbor's tractor is broken then he's just going to use my tractor like that's not even a question because he would do the same for me but that's not that's not why that's just how it is and I don't that the breakdown is act is at home and then that just expands everywhere else it expands to your job well I don't I don't need to do that because that's not my job or I was just doing what I was told yeah we watched hundreds of thousands of people walk across the border because people were just doing what they were told now but again I have some great friends who tried very hard to keep these people I mean imagine imagine one guy

42:02I'm trying to keep a hundred people from coming across it's just that's extremely dangerous pointless but some of these guys were we're not just going to be able to go home and sleep at night knowing that they didn't try something at least something you know so this concept you're talking about I'm just going to say this real quick and then we can like kind of jump back into exactly like what you were you were finding and lead into that but Tolkien writes about this actually and he he talks about the abdication of responsibility if you remember if you've ever read the books you watch the movie specifically you'll remember Baramir is defending us Giliath that's like one of the last stands before the orcs make their way to Minas Tirith and if you read the books you read that Tolkien talks about that there were cities even further out from a Giliath that were abandoned by men and they were abandoned and this is what allowed the the the orcs and then the dammit the the name of the help me out Chris Mordor to encroach on the the land that man owned and it was the

43:07abdication and the the allowance of those cities to fall that allowed them to creep even closer into the point where they were left with this one city of us Giliath between them and Minas Tirith and and he makes a point to say that it's abdication of responsibility that I don't have to worry about this and well we'll this is too much for me and you know I can just let this go and it's okay because it's it's it may be a little more dangerous but it's still manageable you know and then until you run out of manageable options and then you're left with the last standard us Giliath but Tolkien talks about this this is this is a a concept that's as old as as human beings are and just you know to be a man right outdicating your responsibility whether it's to take care of your family whether it's with your job or or whatever you're talking about you're taking care of your your community because you have a larger circle you've drawn around yourself and taking and let people in inside that circle but this a very dangerous concept for people to and to for people to

44:10bring into themselves and embody is is to abdicate things and when we live in a society that is so established and we have all the niceties that we have here in America it becomes easy to do that because you take the system for granted without realizing that men built that system it wasn't there it was built by people who understood what responsibility meant you know so comfortable route yeah comfortable route exactly well here your example is even more poignant because the the steward right Gandalf tells him in the third book that you know his job was to defend the city you know that's why he was there he was supposed to keep the throne until the return of the king because authority is not given to you to deny the return to the king right but he was perfectly fine to sit on the throne of gondor and feed men into the meat grinder over on and in osgiliath and keep the fight over there but as soon as the fight wound up at the gates of ministerial that it actually was there and he comes out of the throne room and looks over the terrace and sees the great

45:15armies like what's the first thing that he says and he tells all the men drop your swords flee flee for your lives and Gandalf has to step in right and Gandalf isn't supposed to be leading men you know more of an angelic character but he has to step in because as soon as the fight became real he abdicated that authority too because all of a sudden he was in the hot seat as it's all they knew yeah such a good poignant example that you brought up I just wanted to nerd out on top of your nerding out no I appreciate that Tolkien is one of those people who is he has a firm grasp on not just humans but the culture of men very well the characters that he writes embody a lot of those those characteristics but so the video you showed with the fires right I'd love to see some of the other videos that you're talking about you're gathering in what you're doing is gathering intel and you're building up a body of work that is eventually going to lead into you having goat in it getting the attention of some pretty big people am I right you're correct but at the beginning you remember I'm just some dude noticing something right right and talking to my neighbors

46:21and then then branching out from my neighbors to their neighbors to their neighbors to their neighbors and then yeah eventually things blowing up very quickly because I'm lots of people have covered a lot of this stuff there's there's a ton of of reporters that have reported on this stuff I don't I'm not a big fan of being called a reporter because again I live here this is just me being a neighbor but I know like I said I noticed something weird and started looking and then I just turned into something that I not necessarily ever wanted but here here we are yeah what uh let's let's pull up another video of some of these things that you you were finding some interested to to hear where this is going to lead eventually so this was the what's this kind of a kind of a funny

47:26situation here ricks optics ricks thermal optics Chinese company they came and pitched some items at my gun store and I said yeah let me take them I'd love to uh love to use them and test them out this was the first time that my buddy Dan and I went out there at night and uh we had these thermals so we're just learning how to use them and playing with them and then we at the beginning of the video he saw some guys they were checking the integrity of the fence not the wall the barbed wire fence that they just came through and with some dikes and and cut and uh we we had no idea what we were in for at this point I just remember looking over at Dan and be like hey man I only got a one mag so there's more people than bullets here right there's a kid yep so you'll see this video keep going and then you'll see they go over to my truck later we found out that they

48:29are they're told to go find border control because border patrol is gonna basically take them into the country process them process them right and then drop them off down to the trolley station by my gun store and they were free to go or the airport they were they were taken to the airport given tickets all of the country it would so then I started seeing more and more and more what in the world is going on this is just absolutely crazy we are paying there's my truck right there so they're going over to my truck and then pretty soon there's about 60 Chinese people surrounding my truck and that's when I looked at Dan and like uh yeah man I don't what I don't have a playbook for this we were just invaded right in front of us there's no border patrol and it's you and me and you're in electrician and I am the gun store so what what what are we doing right uh so we we calm down for a second and I eventually set the alarm off on the truck and they were all looking around and

49:33yeah a couple minutes more go by and then they finally dispersed but um girl got a uh her wheeled luggage like she's gonna go for the airport right you know how we found a lot of these people we followed the fucking luggage trails in the in the sand in the dirt the wheels how's powerful we're we're good no you you go ahead these people were so previously normal illegal immigration that I grew up with they would they would hike miles from the south try to be undetected and then miles on the north undetected and try and get in right or they would find areas of where the the walls integrity was jeopardized and they would sneak through real quick but it was very um covert these people from us four years were driven up to the opening of the wall that's one of

50:35the spots of the end of wall and just dropped off right there so they they came from Tijuana in most instances came from Tijuana and from their hotel picked up almost like an uber service with all their luggage and everything driven right to the wall dropped off I mean these people had Gucci clothes on and what how can you claim asylum when you're dropping your passport on right on the border and then coming across with clothing more expensive than my vehicle are these real passports or are you able to tell if they're fraud I would say 95% of them are real okay but that is a that is a tricky question because and I haven't found a good definition for this okay so if you go to you and I could go to Turkey right now and get a real Turkish passport with your name

51:40you know your name in my name is that counterfeit is that fraud what it's real right so are are a lot of these real but but probably paid for yes actually like crappy counterfeit ones are their passports are very hard to come by ID cards we have lots of counterfeit ID cards hmm are these like counterfeit ID cards issued from ex-country and central or south america is that what these are they all look like yeah they're Mexican immigration cards we actually saw the cartel making them and and handing them out with with our religion are drawn and they were in the back of the van making them and handing them out while they were driving cartel members in the back of the van making fake IDs that's wild how accurate did they look they're pretty damn good they got this time went on they got better and better mobile counterfeit service yeah but I had my

52:42LinkedIn you should yeah I'm curious you you were talking about processing these guys and you put that in air quotes what why would why put that in air quotes you talk about see the the bourgeois processing these guys and air quotes can imagine both you guys you're you you pull somebody over in a different country and they turn out to be somebody you want and you grab them and and they're back back and you throw them in your the back of your patrol car with a couple of their friends and that's it you didn't search them you look through their bag just put it back there I thought for sure and there was going to be an ID in one of these and it didn't happen but I thought for sure I made a point to talk to Washington about that many times we need to search their shit before we put them in the vehicle what what are we doing this like standard transport

53:43process yeah but we were getting complacent the complacency was just because these guys were new they're brand new now I'm not saying they should have known that you got to search somebody before you put them in the day of vehicle right but they were um Uber drivers at the time a lot of these guys went and bourgeois dangled the you can go get your CDL and we'll pay for it and they did and then they ended up driving the bus and dropping these guys off these illegal property airports but you're the new guy right well aren't they gonna pay for my CDL why not why wouldn't I do it maybe I could move up faster if I have my CDL they they absolutely abused these new people by having them think they were doing something right and what they did was incredibly wrong I use this example um were the people who drove the trains

54:47to Auschwitz just as complicit as Hitler yeah it's like a guilt by association question that's a tough one right you know there's a problem exactly you know it makes you wonder about some of the local to your to your point right like to stick with the World War II thing when you go around and you deputize I use that quote or that that term loosely a group of German men in a village and then now you have them outhunting people right and they round them up and they're handed off to the SS or some other you know division of the Vermacht and they get walked out into the tree line you know what are you what are we really talking about here actually I'll give you real quick thing you know I have I have a friend whose German his dad was was in the Vermacht he got pulled in when he was 16 at the end of the war when the Germans were losing Hitler knew they were losing it was like every last man sort of thing and he said that you know his dad knows he had nothing to do with

55:48anything that happened he was a teenager when he got pulled into the Vermacht at 16 but he hated knowing that he was a part of it and it really begs this question it's you know all of these Germans yeah like you could sit there and say that they knew what was going on I don't think all of them did by any means I think that a lot of what happened during the 1940s in Germany was probably one of these rumors that this happening over here and you know you you look at you tend to look at the the Vermacht in World War II as the enemy they are the enemy but all of these Germans aren't necessarily in line with the Nazi party specifically they're just Germans who are get get caught up in these situations kind of like what you're talking about being taken advantage of incentivizing this totally destructive behavior of driving illegal immigrants across into the country and handing them off to nameless people like these are these are terrible processes you know but at the end of the day you know I remember answering a question one time to a young airman when I was in Germany like

56:49why why did the Americans let the Germans keep or put up all of these statues for World War II soldiers and they're all over the place right and I'm like well because at the end of the day they're they're just German citizens who aren't necessarily completely responsible for what the Nazi party did or like weren't responsible the same way like you're talking about these these young people in the border patrol are necessarily responsible for the poor policy decisions of a presidential administration or the leadership of border patrol or whatever you know there's like two big extremes but you were talking about World War II but that's just what it is I think most people get caught in the middle of absolutely terrible policy it's the rock in a hard place of being the one person to say I'm not doing this shit and then you're ostracized and maybe something even worse happens to you or you wind up driving a bus full of you know illegal migrant kids and handing them off to people with clipboards you know and you have no fucking idea where those people are going you just know that you're getting a CDL out of it you know that's just this is like one of these terrible in between

57:50gray zones of bureaucracy and civilization that shouldn't exist but it does because human beings are human beings you know and it's it's an ugly part of who we are I think as people I need to make more parallels to World War II because you you you made me remember some other there's so much has happened in such a short amount of time it's hard to remember everything I mean we could I could talk to about this for we could sit on here for the next two weeks and we sure I still would have explained everything but the good the good real good agents that we still work with today they were dropping off passports for certificates and you know by decards and stuff out of my barn while I was sleeping they would leave this stuff there because they knew that I was actually doing that we were actually doing something with it rather than just going to a fucking shredder somewhere to this day that still happens because they have more faith in TGI than they do in their own organization and they know that in just a couple years we

58:54may have a new president and congress has done nothing to codify and make sure this doesn't ever happen again which blows my mind that they still haven't done anything but it could happen again just a couple years so TGI's relationships to the federal government should be more important than anything right now because regardless of the administration I'm still the local guy I'm still paying attention but the so going back to the World War II thing there there are a lot of good guys that are trying to do something even though they don't have the power but you have the influence especially with these new these new kids that are coming in so that leads me to the importance of my gun store in this and I for a long time for probably almost two years I did not mention my gun store because I didn't know anyone to think that I was trying to profit off of what what we were finding what we were doing and then then one plan I just didn't care anymore but

1:00:02the gun store is super important so California as you guys know is a sanctuary state San Diego sanctuary city so that the local and state law enforcement cannot work with cannot legally work with the federal government on anything immigration related now to California that means don't talk to board patrol or ice basically that's the easiest way to think about it so with the gun store I'm a law enforcement dealer so not only am I the the liaison for the community I'm also the liaison for the state and local guys to the feds so I God put me in this perfect position to get everybody's information and give it and disseminate it to the right people very quickly so guys will come in and buy a gun and gun stores like a barber shop man you're just diary of the mouth so I hear everything now my some might be exaggerated some and a lot of the guys are well that is come and

1:01:03hang out in world they'll let me know what's going on and and I have a roll of decks full of every agency you could think of at this point and it makes it it is just a massive force multiplier to be able to it works the other way around too so if if the local guys see something I give to them if the board of patrol guys or other federal agents out here see something out here that's not really their jurisdiction I can let the local sheriff know or the local deputies know and we've done we've done a ton of work you know behind the scenes that way which is great but these guys would lose their jobs and it's happened before so they have to have the utmost trust in TGI that we will not ever say anything and we wouldn't because they will lose their jobs that's an incredible responsibility that you guys have and for them to have the trust in you to know to just go drop

1:02:07those things off as something is going to happen you know it's you could look at it like a silver lining that these guys know that there's going to be some sort of accountability or at least the the storing of evidence right and that these these are the people that are trying to do the right thing like you said like that's some some silver lining in this situation here but you know at the end of the day it's it's not what should happen it's very it's very reminiscent of just some of the back channels you learn about when you start discovering how our founding fathers communicated prior to the American Revolution you know this is your you you're a trusted you're a trusted agent for these people essentially and they they come to you with that stuff but I'm interested you you have said several times now these large populations of Chinese people that you've witnessed at the border and I'm I'm really interested to learn more about how you wound up with like Joe Kent Tulsi Gabbard at the at the border and then when you started to learn more about the Chinese involvement at the border the CCP the broader you know presents that they have

1:03:13down there the the main area that we were working in at the time was just it was almost exclusively Chinese people it's nice it there would be groups of two to five hundred just out here in the wilderness and so because we're seeing Diego and and the gun store that I have a lot of team guy friends and I wanted to bring some of them out just because they they seem very insulated lately after the Eddie Gallagher stuff they're like you just stay away from social media so they they had they had absolutely no clue what was going on at all and I brought them out there and they lost their minds they were like this is this is the first time we were in Iraq this is exactly what it what it feels like we're everyone's looking at us everyone wants to kill us

1:04:13and so I started infecting these that's the wrong word but I started infecting these groups and I would bring sheriff to sheriff's deputies or some CHP friends and finally everybody started going well what what what are we doing not that they could do anything but the the they started paying attention and then they started following what we were doing and they go okay well we can do something we could do a quarry that's easy we just tell him what's what we see but the Chinese thing was was very different and that's what caught my attention at the most to me you know we will know about terrorism well we'll live through that continue live through it but the the Chinese people and what they were wearing and what they were doing they would come across and immediately well well Chris you get to a new area what are one of the first like three things you're going to do

1:05:17like when I get to like in a military sense like if I go if I go to a semi-permissive area yep oh well I would you know obviously establish some type of security find a place to to hold up like a base of operations of some type and then establish calms back to wherever my hire is guess what the first fucking three things they did were those things every time and light of fire but yeah obligatory every time they come across they would they would take a little walk around take a little lap of the area get a get an overview of where they were at set up their spot because they didn't know if it was going to be immediate pickup or a couple days and then they would get their phones working multiple phones most of them had at least two phones yeah that's not a normal person no well what you're describing is a SOP right and that requires

1:06:23training somebody is teaching these people something I'm interested if you can go into what sort of information you were finding on these phones and really just break that down for us and if we could lay bare this sort of process that these guys are following they'd be great so we got into one of one of the the phone you were talking about the beginning of the show was it was an iPhone it was pretty new it was nicer than the one that I had at the time after we broke into it I got I had the idea of using that one just to document everything because the camera was better than the one that I had on my phone yeah I know I'm going to document their own stuff you said they're sending it back there anyway so they're just watching me through the camera so that one was was right out just right off the side of the road Dan found it and

1:07:24we plugged it in it charged it and trying to like look at the smudges to see if I could figure out what the password was and then I googled what's the most common remote that the beginning iPhone password or something like that right and it was one two three four five six so I did one two three four five six and the phone opened okay and that led to yeah I thought at the time I thought it's just like finding a flash drive on the ground and then I just plugged it in my computer right yeah but at the same time nobody else would do anything so you know that that got us into now we're in over 200 different telegram shots that are that are completely how to exploit their informational chats on how to exploit the generosity of the United States government almost exactly like what you saw in minutes that kind of stuff

1:08:34I'm fascinated about all of the items that that you're finding documents electronics like your passport right if anybody's ever traveled especially internationally like you don't lose your passport it goes in your traveler's pants a protected pocket it gets zipped up it's it's a precious document and you're finding these things discarded electronics discarded electronics that aren't individualized but they're left in their factory default state like to me this this means that people are being briefed like you were talking about brain and this is SOP after you get through the border discard your documents discard your electronics don't be found with them on you right and and you said Cory that you watched them set up and they were they were working multiple phones which means they have a drop phone a throwaway phone like that you have it now but but like this it this is yeah that's where I was going with this like are I'm wondering

1:09:44if this is the SOP that they're being briefed is do you think this is because of the and I'm gonna quote like you did the processing that they knew that they were gonna go under oh you have a you have a document explaining it this is the SOP it was put out their holy cow NGOs in every language you could think of we found it in Russian whatever this is Chinese or Mandarin I guess and English so the the way that we found this let's see if you can you see that at the top there kind of so what I noticed on here was 1632 they just they just popped out to me 1632 that's the grid coordinates for here 1632 wait a minute so then we translated it we translated

1:10:44the Mandarin one and it's 12345 different end of wall locations in San Diego County right where to come in where the end of the wall is where you just walk you just walk across this was a massively globally coordinated invasion and I wish we would treat it like that I was just gonna say that that this the what you're describing is it's what's worth man I hate when my stupid brain does this it's it's very well you said coordinated already but it's sophisticated that's what I was looking for it's very sophisticated it's sophisticated to the point where you're saying well this is military like resources from the CCP or whomever who's coordinating this and so my next couple questions for you are this like demographically obviously you're talking about these guys with Chinese people the people that are coming in are Chinese are these military age males first and foremost are we talking about like young women with kids right people that you could actively I guess

1:11:44say like yeah they're seeking asylum because it's a mom and a three-year-old or these military age men and then when you're looking through these chats and you're you're translating the language in them who are you finding they're communicating to are these uniform PLA are these CCP officials you know are the people they reporting back the way that somebody will report to a handler like what are we what are we talking about here so the way I've figured that out was when I'm going through the pictures on this specific phone and I'm noticing I was in an army aviation so I didn't do land now right if I was doing land now it was a bad day for everybody we did air now I don't know what you want to call it navigating in the air and we had checkpoints right so as I'm going through these pictures you know I'm like why why is he taking a picture of just himself in front of that

1:12:45prominent landmark and again and again and they're taking points he's taking pictures in front of checkpoints and sending them back showing that he's made it to that checkpoint it's like he's vetting the process yeah so I mean you guys can only imagine what's going through my head as I'm fine as I'm finding this stuff out on my own right and I'm I'm like the only dude at this point with me and a couple of friends Chris and Dan were we're we're going through this stuff trying to get a hold of everyone anyone that would listen two people we got to hold two people James O'Keefe was one he made a movie about all this stuff and the other one was my friend Geo Geo was a Marsock Marine and Geo this will this is leaves up to your other question about Joe and Tulsi and all these other people that we we brought out Geo was a I brought up Eddie Gallagher earlier he was

1:13:50on Eddie Gallagher's team he was the Intel guy on Eddie Gallagher's team he vouched for Eddie Gallagher rather than against him like the other guys and worked very hard to get him out and during all that he made a lot of a lot of big connections and he did some private private security work and met a lot of these people and then he ended up becoming a political consultant and there's a guy that ran for mayor here in town listening to Larry Turner great guy Marine he didn't didn't win but anyway great guy and so Geo would go to city council and you know go yell at everybody on the city council and he was just a force to be reckoned with in San Diego and I remember seeing him on Instagram yeah follow him on Instagram yeah and I had like three followers at the time right so I'm trying to get a hold of these people so Geo and and James O'Keefe got back to me but Geo was like wait what what's going on nice sitting pictures and stuff and he goes

1:14:56bro let me call you it's he calls me and we talk about he says I'm I'm coming out there because he he was doing kind of what I was doing but downtown with all the homeless and the fentanyl and then everything just kind of intertwined with the drugs so he brought Larry Turner out and we looked at it together looked at the problem and people are just crossing right you know we went to the camps and Geo said the same thing a lot of these other guys did like these these people all want to kill us all they're just have that look in their eyes and he was very uncomfortable as was Larry and then Geo spent a ton of time with me and he produced these intel reports for us and he tried to try to he was basically TGI's intel guy before TGI was even a real thing right because awesome I'm just some dude walk around taking pictures and picking up trash and he was so massively

1:15:57unbelievably helpful and then he would line up these big people to come out he so he was running Joe Kent's campaign that's how he got Joe here and Joe's great dude I wish he was at an organization where he had a an action arm because I feel like we would be a lot further along in the world if if you gave him a gun again or a hammer or something and then that led to Tulsi coming out and Tulsi came out for two full days like we were we were in the truck for by 10 12 hours both days and I took Tulsi from far east border all the way into downtown we met with Larry Turner Larry's also sdpd cop which retired now but Larry took us around we're all the all the drug issues downtown and it was great Tulsi was actually making a documentary about it which never never aired unfortunately for for political reasons like I suppose

1:17:04hmm but geo was was extremely helpful to everything and he he was the kind of the missing piece for us with getting these big names out here and and the intel side of things he had intel he had more sources about the stuff that we were doing than we did on both sides of the border um I wish I could name some of them because you guys would know them but they were they were so helpful and then unfortunately geo took us on life so that that's uh I don't think very many people knew what how helpful he was to teach us it's very uh it's very set I'm glad we can humanize him here and talk about what he did and how much he loved this country and was trying to keep it safe I think that's a great way to talk about him yeah he was he was very frustrated with everything

1:18:09that was going on but he was methodical in the ways that he went about trying to solve these problems and uh yeah I don't think we'll ever be able to fill fill those shoes it's it's been extremely difficult for me to try and pick up the slack on on this stuff that I have you know we had an actual intel guy right they're doing it and now we have you know me right you had uh Tulsi was able to come down and see the border with jokin like you guys were talking about were you able to pass along like what you were finding uh from these telegram chats like you let me back it up here real quick I can't recall it I don't think you'd answered whether or not you were able to figure out the the people that these guys were reporting back to you were able to figure out if this was some sort of handler or if this was this was this military leadership like PLA intelligence you know the the one chat this one chat that this dude was in

1:19:11that led to all the other ones was actually run by the by the ccp and it was a repository of information at one time there were um about I think two or 25 I think it was like 22,000 people in in this chat 30,000 pictures 5,000 videos and hundreds of pdf's the pdf's were instructions on on all kinds of different things 22,000 if you guys have a chance if you watch my congressional testimony I talk about all this in there and it uh because it was it feels like it was 20 years ago now so I talked more in depth and then my written congressional testimony is a lot more in depth um more in depth than I can remember about what happened at that time now it's insane this is it's a coordinated invasion there's no other way to put it like to to say it

1:20:12completely and totally plainly this is intentional and attentional undermining of the united states and in putting people in forward operating positions for something broader like there's there's no other goal here right yeah obviously there's intelligence collection that happens in real time all day every day like you'd said before right when we we were talking before that these guys are taking pictures you said of um Edwards I think Edwards Air Force Base wasn't that one of the ones that you were talking about southern California there's vandenberg down there there's always very sensitive sites obviously you know anything about vandenberg in Edwards uh uh SpaceX was another one that you'd said where they were taking photos of this intelligence collections reconnaissance all this stuff but obviously these guys are inside the countries operating when you think of sleeper cell I think the first thing that our generation tends to think of is maybe like jihadist terrorism but at the same time if you're talking about all these military age Chinese males well if the things were to go hot in the Pacific uh what what the Chinese are going to have people here in the country that are going to so discord and create chaos because it now forces

1:21:13us to deal with it here on the home front as well as trying to manage whatever the hell is going on NATO paycom so this is exactly what this is this is quite literally opening the gate and letting the enemy behind the wall and then allowing them to hang out until the opportunity presents itself to cause chaos so this is the most illogical and dangerous thing that anybody anybody with a brain can say like why are we doing this it makes no sense it doesn't make any sense and then where we are tasking these guys out I'm not going to give the actual numbers but the wall the border wall right now has probably way less that the amount of agents you think are there protecting the border right now because a lot of them are tasked out all of the country to go do bs bureaucratic clean-ups of the worst of the worst right how about we seal the fucking wall first like let's let's stop the bleed and then go from there triage

1:22:22it's frustrating to watch well you're bringing up a really important thing and that's obviously the Trump administration is making a huge point on the fact that they've sealed the border and and no you know illegals have crossed since they've been in in power and have sealed the border but we know and you're there on the ground that that's not necessarily the case that they're they're still people trickling through right yes it's of course it's way better way better than working down the road and seeing a couple hundred people standing there having fires with their moving on luggage not seeing that anymore but they're we will never have a perfectly secure border ever it's not possible right sure yeah North Korea still coming to South Korea they come through the landmines we could put landmines other they still come across but it sure could be a lot better and there's a lot of technology

1:23:25that we are not using that TGI is using now just very simple like raspberry pie stuff that's very simple oh wow okay talk about obviously I'm sure you guys could figure it out very familiar with Linux yeah and I don't know why we're why we're not using this simple stuff like that the again it's a bureaucratic nightmare right the they they are bidding on stuff that's so expensive and and it has to be all of the government it has to be built to these government specifications and then they have to go through through all of this crap to make it US government approved and by that time it's already antiquated and they've already developed something against it on this outside whereas an organization like mine I don't have any rules right just don't do things super illegal that's basically the rule right or don't get cut

1:24:28so we can develop something and nobody will ever know about it and we just keep using it until they figure it out and then we shift fire on the next afternoon we have something different rather than another two years away and I think they need to you haven't asked me this yet but I'm going to answer it anyway what's the solution probably I agree well I was just actually was just it's so funny you said what's the solution you said private contractors because I was literally thinking in my head you're building something in flight when a plane already exists to solve this problem but it's not being used like you're creating a new solution a solution that already exists it's just not being employed and you're doing it better right like they're exactly you're building it in flight like as if you're if you're resorting to raspberry pies and you know I I have a bunch of thoughts in my head about what you're doing using a raspberry because I've made a bunch of raspberry pies okay you know I there's I know what you're able to do

1:25:29if that's what you're resorting to like this is like an eighth grade level project you're talking about right for border security the you damn well know the US government could be doing a hell of a lot more if you're using raspberry pie like just saying it's and it hats off to you in every every ounce of respect ever like that's exact it's just I I hate that you have to do this shit because the things that we have in place all the money dedicated to all the training all the personnel right that goes to these organizations and these people right who are professionals and not doing their job is is absolutely bonkers to me what was the reception of your congressional testimony oh that's a good question who are you really enjoying it yeah absolutely okay committee wise though did anybody actually talk to you post post hearing right it's sort of like a solutions

1:26:32conversation so if you I think Chris sent you guys the like five minute video but if you did if you end up getting bored somebody watch the whole thing it's actually a good one because my my friends sister in law I don't know if you remember this when the so in the chat we read that the illegal aliens were told to go find the buses and get on the buses well I don't know if you remember them getting on the school bus do you remember that yes yeah that was my one of the kids was my friend sister in law so she testified with me in that in that panel of people that testified right but I was asked if I would be willing to share any of the stuff that I that we had found and my you know it's kind of like talking to a cop when you're up there you just say as much as you when you when they're asking you questions you just say as much as you really need to

1:27:35and that's it but I said so I didn't want to say yes and I didn't want to say no so I said yes I would be happy to talk about that in closed session yes that is something we would we would like to do okay that never happened yeah figures I just I'm talking to really congressional members today who still don't understand how bad this was and continues to be they've asked me what I think we should do that's well first off that's that's nuts yeah just some dude fitting in a barn right now yes yeah I say I say that's nuts and it's not like a shot at you and who you are like it's you're doing things that other people should be doing it's nuts that they're asking yeah yeah exactly you know but to me it goes back to everything we Chris and I say about Congress specifically just being

1:28:37the absolute weakest branch of the government right like this is these are the representatives of the people should be representing our interest protecting interest so your whole fucking reason for being is that role and here you are presenting evidence you it just it just goes to show you to the separation between what these people who these people think they are and the interests they serve versus what it should be and this is the total inverse of the way it should be and I ask the question what's the incentive here to not act right who at the end of the day has the most to gain from their inaction and just letting you just be out there doing what you're doing like who gains from this is obviously not the American citizen we let me answer that question with a question and then we should I think there's so much more that we can talk about um sure I think we should we should it ended after this if you guys are cool with that and then I'm more than happy come

1:29:43like we already got into the chart trafficking or organ harvesting or any of the other stuff yet yeah absolutely I'd love to make this a series if you had a math if I if you had a magic wand right now let's say you were a congressman right and then I come to you okay what do you do if I had a magic wand fixed problems well okay the magic wand meaning meaning uh that you are the congressman not the you have the magic wand after you're the congressman you're the congressman I come to you I tell you about all this stuff boom what do you do well I would I form a I would form a committee I would ask for an intel briefing from somebody at the FBI DHS I would I would send out either subpoenas or indictments and then I would have them sit in front of me and be like so this is testimony that we have on this situation what is your organization doing about this I want to know and I want to know what you know about it because I'm

1:30:44now very interested to know do you know more about it than this random guy from a barn in southern california that came in here and sat down and showed all this stuff to me I want to know that that's what I agree with you okay let's say that they've kind of done that more or less kind of not not to that extent but now what I guess you take the intelligence and information you've gathered hope that it's actionable develop a plan present that plan before congress pass a bill to enable people to act on your behalf as the congressional body of this country and then establish a committee of oversight to make sure that that happens and then be transparent enough to post results online and ensure that that is followed all the way through to the end until the the problem is the most resolved it could be I guess is what I would say if I had in a perfect world the ability to do any of that you know yeah I would try to maybe get a bill

1:31:45going through that would give DHS or FBI or CBP the ability to create some type of task force to go after that specifically in the area like like the enable yeah enable the executive branch to go do what it needs to do like give it give it some teeth on it I was just just going to say that congressional backing real teeth the executive doesn't have to put an EO out that the next president would just smack right down that's my solution to if and and I've pitched this a hundred different different ways now and I've pitched I don't need to be in charge of it I don't care I want to live here where I live and just if I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and just keep being a neighbor are the easy to do if I got paid to do that that would also be cool or at least I can reimburse at least reimburse my guys for all the work and money they've put into it at minimum reimburse these guys but I have the task force between the all of my contacts

1:32:50from through the gun store and the neighbors here I already have the people I could start a task force in the next 30 minutes well Trump I think Trump right correct me if I'm wrong Chris floated the idea of letters of mark dude if you put something out for a bunch of GWAT vets and said hey here's here's all these people on border states the border security alliance any of these people right and say report here sign up here whatever it is if in market it's GWAT vets you would have that done in a week right like you would what 100% I know that there's people especially if you're offering to pay people to do this it's kind of like you know this solution about like school shootings put a put a couple of put a fire team of GWAT vets at that school nobody's shown up you know like you could you could solve that problem easily like you said you'd have a group of people in 30 minutes you know bat saying all up respond knowing knowing the office that Joe Kent sitting in right now to sort of knowing that he's he's been out there and he's seen it I I hope knowing the type of guy that he is that he's doing something about it from his vantage point as

1:33:53well so that's another tricky one right because it's there's no action arm of the NCTC so who is the action arm of the NCTC in in around about way well I'm I'm more I guess alluding to the ability to sit there and understanding like he's sitting at the nexus of where the intelligence would come through and then networking across the executive branch and feeding that into people that can go out and turn it into action that's what I'm saying your arm when you when you pushed it over and you tried to network with me try that again let me see yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what up right there gets cut off it disappears yeah in the into the void and I think there's a lot of it's it goes back to bureaucracy again right I think yeah everything wants to do anything and everything he can for this country and as he already has more than more than most people probably anyone I know his wife is well paid the ultimate sacrifice

1:34:58for his country yeah yes yes and it's getting held up somewhere there I mean it's getting held up somewhere in many places it's stuff's getting held up stuff that happens in San Diego it does not border related it does not even make it to Washington because I will tell them stuff and I'm like wait what and you're getting bothered how do you not know this so there there are just these gatekeepers everywhere and again I don't know how to how to flush that out without there you go no I think I think you've done such a good job of like giving the scope to people of like what the problem really is because you've been hammering on bureaucracy so much I feel like most Americans kind of have like early 2000s like prime time TV hangover like they've seen shows where the FBI is like they're the awesome dudes that work late into the night and they're you know they have the the best labs and these dogs that

1:35:58just go out bulldogs that are you know like chasing these dudes down and and and they remember the show 24 and they think Jack Bauer is like what every freaking federal agent is like and we'll give his life for the country and then you know what I mean like and that's just not what the federal government is like it's largely staffed of dudes that can't be bothered to answer their phone after 5 p.m. and come rolling it at 9 a.m. and they just want to it's it's what we do in in the army Brandon it's it's make the slides green as long as the slides are green and my boss is happy then I'm happy and I can clock out of here and make it to my son's baseball game right and it's so much easier to deal with a problem when all of a sudden it clacks off and we go oh wow I did know that was happening man now I got to go on site and deal with it there I was saying it the other day when I was like you know is there a case that the FBI could start that doesn't come from Nick Sorter Nick Shirley or Cam Higby how come those are like every single time you

1:37:02report on something now all of a sudden the FBI is on it and is investigating it do you have any open cases that don't come from on the ground journalists or reporters or freelance guys that are just operating Twitter pages Corrie's school and iPhone passwords and getting in you know what I mean like there are still busy looking at white Christian nationals right oh well yeah you know now you're talking about Merrick Garland and his vendetta gets Catholic school moms but Corrie here at the Trump Trump got in you're disappear right right right right that are that are not letting that go because in a couple years they might have somebody wants to bring it back so they're just going to put it over here on their desk yeah not in the shredder classic kick the kid well Corrie thanks for so much for coming on man this conversation was enlightening I know there's going to be a lot of people that are going to listen to this they're going to be like holy shit I can't believe this is going on and even more so I can't believe that nobody is doing anything about it uh that that has the institutional authority to actually do something about it

1:38:07and uh like you said the things that we could talk about um we've talked a lot about organ harvesting we talked about harvesting babies and things like that in the show would love to get your even more in-depth analysis on that and what you found that supports that going because there's still people who deny that this is even going on which I think is insane to sit there and deny that it's going on and I'm sure that you'd invite people down to the border and show them first hand if you could if they would show up right most people just want to be contrarian but I would love to make this into a what's that some some try not to read the comments but sometimes I do and I will uh the people that are very critical I will invite them out every single time I will invite them out you know not one person has ever shown up yeah well it's easier to keep your head in the sand true I want to bring before we go I want to bring up something real quick um um the september 11 2.0's just meant it could be right now it could be 10 years 20 years it's going to happen they are here they are all here mm-hmm it's going to be very bad but

1:39:12what we learned from september 11th and agencies working together has been just completely unraveled or blockaded and I want to give you a good example I'm not going to say who it is there's a task force that three different people from this task force have um talked with me without deep conflicting with each other like they didn't know that we existed and then I say hey why don't you call this guy before you come talk to me and they are in the same task force that's scary yes everyone that should scare the shit out of everyone yeah yeah or this should be the easiest communication ever right like that's that's nuts uh I want to try this in a series I'd love to have you back to continue talking about this uh and I would like

1:40:14to post what some of what you found on our social media pages as well any any information I think that we can put out there is going to raise awareness at the very least and uh the network that Kristen I have some of the people I know would would love to talk to you probably too and help boost that message and uh some of the worth of Kristen I do behind the scenes trying to fix some of these problems too you you line up right in some of these these avenues but I really want to thank you not just for coming on the show but for what you are doing and the way that you're keeping American safe and trying to keep American safe uh this is uh it's a rare thing to see somebody actually take that much responsibility in their own hands and no shocker to me that it's a veteran uh so thank you genuinely for being here and that's what you're doing it could yeah as an Air Force vet absolutely you army guys you know absolutely amazing uh even though we we kill more people because we have bigger bombs you know what I mean but uh anyway yeah absolutely thank you so much if you guys want I do have uh the goat initiative promo video

1:41:14that you sent over uh if you want to go out on that let's play it so thank you guys for having me here's the video boom thank you guys

1:42:14carried out massive precision strikes on the green key nuclear facilities some of those text messages that flash on the screener absolutely nuts uh I'll just say real fast on my way out of the Air Force I saw a lot of new airmen who are we're Chinese and barely spoke English and to me it made absolutely no sense just knowing what I know about the way the Chinese view of the United States how long they've been at war with us in their own mind right the things they do uh uh why we allow those those people in like it's just it's it's risk mitigation 101 you know it's not about it's just already here for people oh that's racist it's like no like if somebody's coming into the military and and they are from a country that wants to completely destroy hours like that just should be a no-brainer man I can't even let somebody from China onto

1:43:21an Air Force base or Iran onto an Air Force base if they're visiting right like they are on a banned country's list why are they in listing you know it's just it's crazy makes no sense to me anyway we can talk about that next uh citizens are in the Chinese military yeah exactly well then how many of these these people that are American journalists in China right they're all paid to be there and create propaganda you know it's Mao Maoist level propaganda now it's g-thought you know but anyway next the next conversation these countries have ever offered to be me to stop doing this which is kind of frustrating you know I wish they were right right here come on down you could well Cory again thank you so much for coming on the show uh please hang out after after we stop but uh guys check out the go to initiative dot org you can follow Cory on X you're also on Instagram learn about what he's doing and then uh stay tuned for further episodes with you and

1:44:23I hope you have a good night man they figure out what that light is in your life thank you yes