Chequered Flag Extra: Selfies, Curses & F1 Hot Takes

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The Burger Curse.

What's the burger curse?

So...

Would you sacrifice your appendix to in?

They had tractors for cars.

Tractors.

And then they did really well.

Double constructors, champions on the trot.

Okay, so we can't rule them out yet.

So what is happening now?

Sorry, are we actually going?

Let's go.

Okay.

It's happened.

Myself, Harry Benjamin.

You're a content creator.

I'm supposedly a commentator.

And this is a brand new podcast

that will sit on your checkered flag feed

in between the races alongside your regular checkered flag.

And it's going to be a bit of a sideways look at Formula One.

We're going to be looking at the latest stories

that happen off the track.

Our reaction from the races

are better looking forward to the next ones as well.

Bit of gossip.

Bit of fun and games.

A debrief, you might say.

Oh, a debrief.

Can we call it that?

Because we actually still don't have a name.

Yeah, we don't have a name.

Which is kind of key, I think, is a name.

So if you have any ideas for names,

we're all ears.

Please, because we don't.

I thought maybe we could play off our sizes.

Yes.

I mean, I know we're sat down recording this,

but if anyone doesn't know,

you're actually four foot.

11, I think, yes.

I don't know why you don't run up to five foot.

Well, because I'm honest.

Yeah, if I were to expect it,

and I'm six foot five.

Yeah.

So that's quite a drastic difference.

It is drastic.

Little and Lodge.

Nailed it.

Kind of does work.

Yeah.

I mean, is it a bit too obvious, maybe?

Has a need a bit of an F1 spin to it as well, I think?

Yeah, again, don't know how we're going to manage that.

No.

So we're both the sort of worst ends of the spectrum for F1.

Like, neither of us could be drivers.

No, you know, I'm too short.

Have you ever been in a single seat or racing kind of car?

Well, it's been in a Formula E car.

Oh, yeah, you crushed the car.

Oh, did it.

Well, how was that then?

Did you have to like have extra padding to reach the pedals?

Well, I had seat made for me.

And there was so much foam.

They had to, like, it was insane.

OK, fine.

And even then, I could barely get my foot full throttle.

But you still hit the wall.

Oh, yeah, all right.

You don't need to bring it up.

Yeah, too fake.

I wouldn't fit on that.

I mean, it was traumatic.

Have you featured on Drive to Survive?

Well, surely.

You're everywhere.

In case you didn't realise, I'm actually one of the commentators on it.

I'm actually one of the voices.

Of course, it's your voice.

Well, I'm one of them.

I'm one of them.

If I'm honest, I'm probably featured the least.

However, still one of them.

But you don't get your face on there.

No, but, well, I thought I'd get involved

in the Vegas Disqualification thing, but nothing came through.

That's so rude.

They were filming in Australia.

And also, a lot of them were filming

when we were walking down the paddock doing a podcast.

And I don't know, their cameras were pointed up.

Well, some cameras were pointed at us,

because you obviously tasked me to get some selfies.

Your selfies.

So you asked me to get as many selfies

with all the team principles.

Yes, please.

Yes, how did that go?

Well, obviously, I can't just go around, like,

on the BBC's iPhone commentator.

Yeah, I know you're very serious, but I can't just go and get.

You could have been sneaky about it.

So I was.

Wait, I've got to find them here.

I sent them over to our production team.

OK, so I got about five out of the 11.

It's all right.

It's all brilliant.

So my favorite one is this one.

So we're walking down the paddock filming our preview show.

And I see Flavia Breatory.

And I'm like, quid's in.

Here we go.

Wait, question. Why has he got so many layers on?

Yeah, it was actually, yeah, I think that's just a look.

It's Australia.

It is. He's got one.

He's got sort of a blue jacket, again, bit of a jacket.

I'd describe that as a gile.

OK, gile, fine.

Sorry, but you are not enjoying that sort of thing.

But we're the long, is long sleeve shirt underneath

and long sleeve trousers with the Alpine cap on.

But boom, that's tick.

OK, fine, fine, fine.

Then we go, OK, look, you can't see it here.

Again, I got a selfie.

Made it all the way down the paddock to Cadillac.

Zoom in and we see sitting at the table,

Team Principal Graham Loudon.

OK, fine, look, that one on the block.

That one's a week.

Well, I can't make it too obvious.

Yeah, but, OK, fine.

And then I went to the Team Principal's press conference.

Zoom in, got three.

Got Total Wolf, Adrian Ewy, and Loudon again.

I like that because that's using your brain.

So I was accused of cheating.

No, I think that's really good.

OK, we'll allow that then.

And then I got Total Wolf again on his own.

With me, at sitting at Total, with some shades behind.

Yeah, a double total, nice.

Yeah, happy with that.

OK, well, I think you've succeeded.

But I could know, that was all I could do really, unfortunately.

Yeah, I think five out of 11.

It's not bad.

We'll take it.

Did you do anything else other than try and take selfies?

Did do some commentary.

Did do some commentary.

Probably important.

And actually, I tell you what, I don't know

how you felt about it when you watched it.

Well, hang on, were you up?

Did you get up?

I woke up at sort of 345 in the morning.

Yeah, dedication.

In bed.

I did watch it from bed.

Yeah, fine.

Well, you were up in time to see Oscar Piastry shunt in the wall.

As soon as I went on it, they were playing the replay.

So I just missed it.

We were sat in the commentary box waiting.

We weren't even on air yet.

Yeah, because they're just getting there.

Suddenly, screams from the commentary box next door.

We look at our telly and it's Piastry in the wall.

No one could believe it, I mean, of all the places.

It's so bad.

Did you see, actually, something that's gone really viral

is Jess Medland, who does the...

She produces the cause of she was in charge

of putting all the shots together of when he crashed.

And it's gone so viral because the way she reacts to it

is un...

Let's just work it a million miles an hour trying

to show everyone what's going on.

Because, like you said, you're not expecting anyone

to go in the wall at that point.

It's incredible.

But I, so I thought, one of my commentary stats,

I think everyone has his stat, right, is that no Australian

has ever been able to be on pole

or win or be on the podium at their home race.

So it's like a curse for Australians.

But Daniel Riccardo was on the podium technically,

then he got disqualified.

And Mark Weber, technically celebrated on the podium.

Right, so technically.

Years ago when he was in it.

Technically, I'm not allowed to check, exactly.

But I'm not allowing that.

So I thought, well, this is a curse, right?

And then I went down the rabbit hole of F1 curses.

Sure.

And I found a couple that I want to share with the class.

OK.

The burger curse.

What's the burger curse?

So obviously, there's a lot of superstitions

and general ridiculousness in Formula One.

So Pia Street's crash reminded me of this one.

Last year, he's in great form, he's leading the championship.

Then there's an Australian burger chain called grilled.

I'm sure other Australian burger chains are probably available.

So they launched this promotional burger chain

called OP81.

If Pia Street gets on the podium or wins,

they get free burger from this chain.

Oh, nice.

Brilliant, right?

Great marketing.

As soon as they do that.

Oh, no.

What happens?

All goes wrong.

All goes wrong.

Almost immediately.

No wins, not even podiums.

Done.

Curses the burgers.

Maybe it is a burger curse.

OK.

Then they actually, I think they actually

issued a statement grilled saying this,

we're very sorry if our delicious burger

has accidentally altered the course of Formula One history.

I mean, that might be a bit dramatic.

And I bet it's the burger curse back, basically.

So that's one curse, ridiculous.

But you brought this up on our big preview show

of the year, right, when we were thinking about predictions.

The Red Bull Second Seat Curse.

Classic Curse, which is real.

No, that is real.

But Isaac Hadja, I'll decree that.

I think he's going to break the curse.

We both said he's our one to watch this season.

He was, well, he qualified third.

Oh, he's doing amazingly well.

And I think that the biggest thing that we saw,

obviously, Max crashed in the first part of qualifying.

Yes.

So years they just haven't had like a second driver

to be there or collect anything

when something goes wrong for Max.

Yeah, but Hadja was right there.

Absolutely.

Finally, they have a guy there, although they

didn't quite work out for him in the race in the end.

Yeah, but we can argue that that's nice for him.

No, fine.

So is that the curse of the Red Bull Second Seat?

Because when you go back through the archives,

what you got down your Ricardo, who

left before anything, he got particularly beaten by Max,

then you got Pierre Gasley, who got demoted back

to the junior team, Albon, who had to leave the sport afterwards

and then come back.

And then who we have off that Sergio Perez,

who did all right for a bit, like Ministry of Defense,

then it all crumbled apart.

Liam Lawson literally given a race in a half.

I mean, you have to argue that being the number two driver,

two Max and a staff, and it is a very difficult task.

I mean, I wouldn't want to do it.

No, but I think maybe Hadja is the right one to do it.

I like that he's a rookie, kind of.

A rookie that got a podium in his first year.

Yeah, kind of.

But I like that he's young and sort of quite willing

to learn and actually take on board.

He's quite a funny character.

He's quite straightforward and sort of no nonsense,

which I think probably works quite well.

I also wonder if it's better for him,

because like, well, they had Lawson and Sonoda

who both failed last year, and Sonoda,

and actually Lawson like quite funny characters,

whereas Hadja is funny, but he's more straightforward

and he switched on.

But also I wonder because we've had this big regulation reset,

which everybody is talking about, good and for bad,

but like you sort of start from zero right now.

That might help him defeat the curse.

But we'll see, like, Arvid Limblad did really well,

and that you could see.

Yeah, and maybe you could say the same,

because okay, he's super young,

but basically all of the drivers are now super young,

because they're all kind of starting again

with a whole new system,

whereas he's going into it pretty fresh,

and actually just saying, yeah, I can do it, and he can.

No, he can.

Well, let's see what happens.

One last ridiculous curse for you.

Of course, yeah.

I could say I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole here.

I can tell, I feel like this is your jet lag,

insanity coming out.

It is.

The appendix curse.

Are you aware of it?

I've seen a meme.

So, three instances I found where an appendix,

or some sort of surgery related to appendicitis,

has led to better results.

Sure.

I'd like to cast your mind back to 2022,

Alex Albon at the Italian Grand Prix.

Well, he didn't make it appendicitis.

How does appendix removed?

Who gets catapulted in?

It's Nick DeVries, now a formula E fame.

Out-qualified Nicholas Latifi in the car,

and scored points.

Pretty heroic.

Yeah, okay.

But he wasn't one that had the appendix.

No, but it took an appendix out.

I'm still taking it.

Yeah.

2024, Saudi Arabia, halfway through the weekend,

during the Carlos site, had to pull out.

Carlos, yeah.

Appendicitis Oli Behrman goes in.

And he goes.

Not only does Behrman do well in that race,

next one round in Australia.

Bam.

Who wins the race?

Carlos.

Carlos signs.

And the last one.

Maybe it's a bit loose.

Australia just gone.

Yeah.

George Russell still has an appendix.

He does, but who doesn't?

He's girlfriend.

He's girlfriend.

Carmen.

OK, so you have to sacrifice an appendix.

In order to get a good result.

To win or do quite well.

The evidence is there.

It's science as far as I'm concerned.

It gives you a few tenths.

Would you sacrifice your appendix to win?

Why are you even questioning this?

Yeah, no, yes, I would, sorry, yes.

No, I would do it immediately.

You don't need your appendix.

No, what does the appendix actually do?

I think it does a lot, I think it's just there.

It's kind of unnecessary.

OK, yeah, then get rid of it.

I'd be so worth it.

I do tomorrow.

No, fine.

Yeah, just to win.

You didn't do it before you formally outing, then.

Right, look.

It was a month ago now.

We're over it.

It happened.

Forget about it, yeah?

It does get brought up a lot.

Everywhere I go.

As it should, and we'll forever.

Yeah, I have a feeling it will be a forever thing.

And it's almost like borderline meme worthy at this point.

Surely there's been some memes made of it.

Yeah, I think we're getting to that point.

I'm pretty sure I've seen one that crosses you

and your dad both crashing yellow cars.

Yeah, that's happened quite a bit.

And sort of grand tour quotes and then me in a wall.

But I don't know if you know this about me,

but I love a meme.

OK.

I love.

That's just good.

We're getting to know each other.

This is good.

I have collected my favorite memes, post-Australia GP.

OK, hit me.

One of my favorites, which I think everyone will have seen,

is I'd like to call it the Toe Toe Smirk.

Yes.

And I'm sure you've seen it.

And he's kind of looking to the camera.

And he just knows.

He knows.

He knows that he's in a great place.

He knows his engine is fantastic.

He's got fantastic drivers.

And then bam.

One, two.

I mean, it's pretty cool.

He was looking.

I thought he was looking, coming back to our fashion shot,

looking very Parisian earlier in the week.

Because he basically sits quite upright

in the team principles press conference.

And he was wearing this sort of black jumper,

quite thin, kind of wrapped around his neck.

Oh, very smart.

It was very thin.

So I almost thought it was a bit scarflight,

but it was a jumper, or like half cardigan kind of thing.

Well, he's probably loving life right now.

Smashed it from the stomach.

I'm really happy.

My next, I don't know if this is a meme.

This is just something that I discovered upon the internet.

Is that Lewis Hampton has a cow called Max.

He has a cow called Max.

Where?

I don't know.

Like, this is as far as I...

Is this a recent thing?

Yeah, this is as far as I went with it

because I just saw a cow called Max

and I stopped in my tracks.

So, well, maybe that's a good thing as a good owner

because he's probably seems to be a bit better this year.

Ferrari were good.

Year of the horse.

Not cow, but year of the horse.

Yeah.

Small animal related link.

But also, I think the staffam was pretty unbelievable as well.

Because I feel like people aren't talking about this enough

because they're like, yay, Mercedes.

Yay, Ferrari, poor Max, P20 up to P6.

OK, yes. That's very good, no?

I take your point, but I also wonder...

Like, that's almost like the least we expect from the staffer now.

Yeah, but to come up all the way through that field.

No, it's impressive. It is.

It is. It is impressive.

It's just this for for some time.

No, of course it is.

I had to do some driver ratings after the race

and I think I've got a bit of a bit of abuse

for marking him quite low.

But only because standards are high for Max for staffam, right?

He wouldn't have been like that.

Yeah.

There was a crashing qualifying, which admittedly

not 100% driver fault.

Yeah, can we talk about that crash really briefly?

Yeah.

Because it looked terrifying to watch.

The way that car snapped looked properly uncontrollable.

I think that's...

I mean, again, saw it with Oscar Piaestry a little bit

as well on the way to the grid.

Although that, I think, he kind of admitted

that a lot of it was on him as well.

But he got this sort of surge, unexpected surge

of electrical power.

And that's what we're going to maybe see a little bit more of

is how the drivers get on top with this 5050 split

with engine and electrics.

But it's one of the team principal with McLean and Dre Estella

was sort of saying, I'm worried about what this means,

crashes at the start could be a lot bigger.

We could see big high speed crashes in corners

like Max for staffam, hit lanes really tight as well

for these cars, got two extra cars in the grid now.

So that's all going to be tight.

I mean, did you see Franco Colipinto?

I'm just saved of the year round one.

Unbelievable.

Incredible.

And did you see the other drivers reacting to it

in the cool down room?

Even they were like, oh my God.

I think that's the first time anyone had seen it as well.

Yeah, it just went completely under the radar,

but it's unbelievable.

I mean, fair play to call it.

Actually, unbelievable.

He had two extra points in my driverator for that.

Did he?

Otherwise, our people were a bit nowhere to go.

Yeah, but that was...

It was sensational.

Oh my gosh, I've just thought I've got another meme.

I've got one.

And it's with Colipinto.

And he loves the monkey, you know, punch the monkey.

Oh, is this the one that didn't have any friends?

Yeah, and then he's got the toy monkey.

Yeah.

And Colipinto's like, I love him.

Like, I would have him as a pet, just as for punch.

I love punch.

A mascot.

Yeah.

For Colipinto.

Really sweet.

Sorry, that just came to me then.

I just love it.

We love a bit of Franco.

We love a bit of Franco.

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What should we pick?

By the end of the season.

So this is from Danny.

By the end of the season, Aston Martin, will have won a race.

I mean, it's not looking good.

I mean, 12 laps down.

Technically, I think Lance Stroh took the checker flag,

but 15 laps down, because although he kept coming in

and out of the plane, it's shocking.

Because they were talking about the nerve damage in the hands.

Is that why they were coming in?

Or was it a mix?

Well, they build it out to be initially that the vibrations

that end up causing that, you know,

if they're going to run flat out, it's not healthy for the drivers.

But in the end, I think I'm not sure that was so much of an issue,

because they wouldn't have bothered coming out again.

But I think they were just coming in making some tweaks

and sending them back out again.

I'm sure the vibrations would have played a part of it,

but they, I think they just ran it

as if they were testing the car.

To practice, yeah, essentially.

Well, they kind of had to, they just need to start

at the bottom and slowly work their way up.

I mean, I expected only half the field to finish.

So in that respect,

it was actually pretty good in terms of reliability.

And like, Alonso was not bad to start.

Am I right?

Like, he showed a little bit of pace.

He nearly got through into the second part of qualifying

and then Colin Pinto picked him out just

from being like over four seconds back,

suddenly found two and a half seconds in qualifying.

So I'd say that was pretty good.

Is it enough for Astamart until we're in a race?

The only thing, I mean, it would, what a story it would be.

Unreal.

And it's not the same category,

but if you could look back two, three years ago,

now I think McLaren were at the back.

They had tractors for cars, tractors.

And then they did really well.

Double constructors, champions on the trot.

OK, so we can't rule them out yet.

Never say never.

Never say never.

So maybe ask again in a couple of races time.

OK, thank you very much for that, Danny.

OK, Andy, is F1 now more about entertainment than racing?

Oh, that's quite a big question.

Where do you sit on this?

Could look, there's no getting around it.

Lots of people either loved or hated what we saw in Australia.

We got so much overtaking in the first 15 laps of the race.

You know, seeing the Mercedes versus the Ferrari battle.

Yes, so incredible.

But then there are others that were saying,

well, this feels a bit artificial.

They're passing each other far too easily.

Then eventually, obviously, Ferrari met the Strasier

and then Mercedes and Russell walked here.

There was at times where I think the snappen was closing

and then just got stuck because he deployed all his energy

and didn't have enough efficiency in the battery

to find more speed.

I don't know, where do you sit on it?

Well, I think it's change.

And no one loves change to start with,

whether that's to watch it or to be a part of it and to drive.

I mean, they're all having to change their driving style,

which I can imagine is not.

I don't know, it's not what they'd expect,

especially maybe for the older ones.

Like Hamilton and Alonzo, they've been doing this for so many years.

So it's just suddenly completely changed the way they drive.

Totally appreciate that's a lot.

But something did have to change.

You can't just keep making bigger and faster cars.

I mean, already look at places like Monaco,

it doesn't work, so it's something I had to give.

I think I'll just take getting used to.

And I think Australia being the first race,

it's still basically a practice for them to use these different.

But I mean, it's just another button

that they're going to have to work out.

Like, DRS was new ones.

And that was...

Everyone hated that to begin with.

That's the point.

It's first race of the year, give it a beat.

I'm not judging this until at least six or seven races,

in, to be honest.

But also, I enjoyed it.

If I'm given up two hours of my Sunday afternoon,

I want to be entertained for a start.

But I don't want it to be super easy.

You still want a challenge for the drivers and teams to overcome.

But I think that was still there.

But I think just give it a bit of time.

We got four cars at one point battling for the race lead.

I was on the bus and I said this in our checkered flag preview show

that we did in Australia.

I'd say this little bus back from Gate 1 Albert Park

to back to our hotel near the beach.

And I'll just sat there and this whole group of fans

were just coming home after the race.

They were actually buzzing and talking about how great the racing was at the start

and how all given...

You know, if we had a 10 more laps,

you reckon Lewis could have got on the podium at the end

because he was only half a second behind Charlotte Claire at the flag.

And that was like, great, there's a buzz.

People are talking about this.

This is one of the more interesting Australian Grand Prix's

I can remember in recent history.

And I think it's nice for the fans to feel that

and feel like it's entertaining.

I think we...

I'd like to see drivers getting on board with it a bit more

and being a bit happier with it

because I think it's no one wants to watch unhappy drivers.

So I think when they start to get to grips with it

and start to like it a bit more,

I think it'll be even more entertaining

because it's not nice to watch when they're all hating it.

It's a bit sad.

Okay, should we do one final hot take?

Okay.

Ferrari 1-2, both the sprint and the race in China.

That is from S-Mac.

I mean, yeah, it's totally possible.

Seen of Lewis Hamilton's sprint win last year.

The only time he visited any kind of podium.

It's doable.

But I think there's so much competition.

We thought Mercedes were going to be miles and miles ahead.

And then in the race, they did well,

but they weren't running away with it.

Like there was a lot of competition.

So who knows?

Ferrari 1-2.

I reckon I'm going to go, yes.

You want, wow, I'm going to go, why not?

Why not?

It's a hot take.

I'm going to go, no.

Fine, we'll come back and we'll meet up and then

and re-evaluate.

But I reckon Hamilton won there last year.

I feel like Hamilton was a lot more confident at the moment.

He has great vibes at the moment.

He was on really good form in the press conference on Thursday.

Just really relaxed, chatting, full of positivity

and the car's half decent.

It's not bad.

Ferrari hadn't of messed up the strategy.

I mean, Fred Vassar, the team principal,

sort of said, we couldn't have pitted any earlier

or under the virtual safety car because it just,

it wouldn't have worked.

And then Bottas had his crash on the pit

and they actually closed the pit lane, right?

So I kind of get it.

But also, when you've got two cars,

I think Hamilton said on the radio,

do something with one of us.

I think so, especially when they were running so close

to each other, something's got to get,

they've got to pick one to go in.

But then, who do they pick?

Is the next question.

Yeah, Lewis Moose.

I'm so glad that's not my job.

Oh, yeah, I would not want to be on the Ferrari pit walk.

That's kind of scary.

I think we've nearly made it through our first podcast,

as you haven't.

That's not bad.

We did it.

It's not bad, is it?

Yeah.

Although, you set me the selfie challenge.

Have you got another one for me for this weekend, China?

Yes, because you're doing the commentating.

That is my job, yes.

That's your job.

I do the commentating.

Discapped.

Do you want me to give you, like, a word or a phrase?

That I can sneak in.

Yeah, we could do that.

Yeah, OK.

It's got to be BBC friendly.

Oh, yeah.

Have you heard of the term sweet treat?

A sweet treat.

Yes, I love a sweet treat.

I think you need to bring that up.

OK, in the race, or in any...

No, in the race.

In the race, OK.

Preferably, sort of, as the lights are doing their thing.

Not a call.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, because you can say, guys, I've got a sweet treat for you.

This is going to be good.

I would like to...

And it's lights out.

Well, I can't say that line, well, that...

I would like to hear the phrase sweet treat.

OK, fine. Sweet treat.

And I actually do think that's that difficult.

Get me, like, from the end of the formation lap

to the halfway through the first lap,

I've got to get sweet treat in there somewhere.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

OK, fine. Deal.

I actually don't think that's that difficult.

No, I've just got to remember to do it.

OK, I'll text you.

Fine.

Remind me Sunday morning.

I'll text you this before...

What are we going to do today?

Slightly later.

Slightly later, yeah.

Well, I can tell you, we will be on air

at 7 o'clock in the morning.

It's not bad. 7 o'clock lights out.

Yeah, but it is Sunday morning.

Are we on Five Live?

Are we on Five Live?

Producers for Sunday's Chinese Grand Prix?

Yes, we are.

Wow.

Thanks, thanks, Jess.

That is quite early, though, for a Sunday.

I mean, I will obviously be up as well.

And I will be having a sweet treat at the time.

OK, deal.

Good.

And if you want to...

We're doing check-and-flag podcasts across the weekend as well.

I check-and-flag review of the Chinese Grand Prix

will be on BBC Sport YouTube channel and BBC Sounds

and all the rest of it.

Absolutely.

Should we wrap it up there?

Yeah, we're done here.

We're done. Cheers.

All right, peace and love. Bye.

Bye.

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