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Charles’ Take: The Case for Tech Infrastructure

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Charles Payne is joined by Infrastructure Capital Management CIO Jay Hatfield to discuss why the bearish case against tech infrastructure is failing, how earnings blowouts from companies like Oracle and Broadcom are disproving this, and why he remains bullish on Amazon’s valuation and a tech-led market recovery as the Fed stays on hold. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Charles’ Take: The Case for Tech Infrastructure

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1:01He's earned decades of Wall Street success, a lifelong student of the market who learned to navigate the world of finance with unshaking confidence, an underdog who achieved the American dream. Now the Fox Business Host is sharing all his investing wisdom with you on Charles Payne's unstoppable prosperity podcast. All right, folks, now my next guest says that the very case against tech makes no sense, right? And it can't be so, put it this way. It can't be so insignificant and that all of the spending is a waste, but at the same time, it's so scary that it's disrupting every business, right? They both can't be right. Infrastructure capital management, CIO, J-Hafford with this. Jay, you know, before we get into the madness and hypocrisy, just real quick, I want to get your thoughts because you look at the broad economy. CPI number, I know, felt like irrelevant with the future numbers coming out, but we've been heading in the right direction. Thanks, Charles. Well, yeah, absolutely. And it's important to note that if you real measure

2:04real inflation, trueflation or we published realflation, it's already below two. But the problem is that the two key leading indicators are inflation are oil prices and money supply. Money supply's down. Obviously, oil prices are huge. So the fed's going to be on hold until the straight of a hormone is open. Let's talk about the short answers on technology, you know, tech stocks, you know, for whatever reason, for the most part, have been getting a hit here a little bit, certain parts of them. But here recently, the short interest has gone absolutely through the roof. I like when this happens. I, you know, I start looking at my chats because I see this, I'm thinking short squeezes at some point. Absolutely. And this happens when earnings season is over. But earnings season produces real information. You saw it from all of the infrastructure providers. We think that's the lowest risk area to be in because there's clearly going to be a lot of applications. So we know that that infrastructure is going to use. Marvell blew out their earnings, Oracle blew out their earnings, Broadcom blew out their earnings. So earnings is the real

3:04discipline. And last point that there was a rotation because the Fed was going to cut now the feds on hold that rotation should stop and we think tech will do better. America leads the world in medicine development. It matters. We get new medicines first nearly three years faster. Five million Americans go to work because we make medicines here at home. And not relying on other countries keeps us safe. But China is racing to overtake us. Will we let them or will we choose to stay ahead? When America leads America cures. Let's tell Washington to keep us in the lead. Learn how at AmericaCures.com. Pay for by Farma. One tech name you just mentioned Oracle. Obviously it had gotten a hammer. Pretty good. Having a pretty good day-to-day. I know at one point you owned it. Would you be a buyer here? We owned it in our hedge fund. We have a small position in PFFA, our preferred stock fund because they issued a big mandatory. And we liked it. We liked it going to the print. And it was super positive because both short these disease were disproven. First of all the SaaS integrated

4:09providers are not being displaced are actually probably stronger. Being augmented. Right. Well, because you know, I don't really never understood it. We're not going to go right our own outlook. And these are much more complicated businesses than ours. So they can't get rid of Oracle. So that was ridiculous. And their cloud business is improving in the capex is coming down because they're getting the clients to pay for it. So both of those short these disease were blown up and the stock is probably a short covering rally now. I'll ask you about another stocker. Amazon, again, it's one of these names where it's just has sort of been sideways for a long time. Even while the rest of Max said when we're still working. This is the poster child for over rotation to other stocks. Walmart trades at 45 times earnings. This trades at 20. This grows twice. Walmart does to the peg of Walmart's four times Amazon. Huge buy and also not that risky 1.4 beta. So if you buy it and the market gets hit because of the war go down a little but not a lot. So we think it's a good entry point for Amazon. And obviously that means you love the risk of

5:12work. Just 15 seconds to go. Overall, what are you telling clients right now, you know, with this market? We're remaining bullish. We think the war has to end. Everybody in the world except Iran wants the straight up or moves to open. It will open. We don't know exactly when within a month maybe two weeks. So stay the course and be bullish. They wanted to open to it at some point. That's the only source of revenue. The only source. Okay, thanks a lot, my friend. Thanks, Trouble. You've been listening to the Charles Payne's Unstoppable Prosperity podcast. Make sure you subscribe to this series and don't forget to rate and review. And keep listening so I can help put you on the path to unstoppable prosperity now.

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