Cathy gagliardi

0:00But it's easy, it's easy to read, you could read like one chapter or whatever and put it down, you know, it's not a continuous story, you know, each chapter is individual. 155 pages? Yes. Oh my God, that's a lot, that's a lot and I love how is title belly flies because I feel like we all, you know, get belly flies butterflies in our stomach. I know, that's the discovering the belly flies method is 155 pages. The children's book belly flies is just, I don't know, 20 pages or something. Oh, that's good too, I never read a book, that's the children's book. So we paid a long before I read one that may be 15, 11 pages, but 20 is actually good to be for children's book.

1:03I actually like that, I love books though, but I do know that now. Yeah, I love books even though I don't read them as much, but I love read one if it's good. You know, if it's like one that spikes my interest, I think superhero, superhero books, big boy, fan, comic books. We, do you like comic books? Oh yeah, who doesn't? Come looks nice of my fate. I don't have a favorite, I just like them all because I see books something. I don't know, I'm more of a, let's say, not picky, it's not the word, but I will pick something out that is meaningful. Like if that was a meaningful title on it or it's just catchy or a very good goofy title on it, which I read it. So how long have you been writing for?

2:05Since, I think 15 years now. 15 years, that's amazing, that's amazing. Yeah, I just love it, I just love writing anything. What is your least favorite bookie wrote, like least? I don't think I have a least favorite book. It's just I just have my heart in every single one of them. That's beautiful, I love a writer that, that pretty much writes from the heart. Because it's like every time you read the book you feel something, that's amazing. That's amazing, you won't see a lot of writers do that anymore. They just write a book and then it's just like, okay, bam, here's the book, here's the title.

3:08And it has a meaning to it. Fun fact, I used to write books when I was young. I still love writing to this day because I started off in middle school and I was like, let me make this book. It's kind of childish, but it's a nice book I have made. I really wish I knew how to actually put it out there and stuff like that. It's not my idea. I was like, very young and it's like, I don't know how to do all this. But it was about, it was about, I got it from a series, it was about three girls. It's about these girls that was in the school. And I ended up writing about it because I said, okay, let me write about this. This is fine and creative because I knew some of them drama. And I said, okay, boom.

4:09Not really soap opera style, but more of like action-packed drama or like rumors or stuff over here. It was beautiful though. Yeah, it's my fun. Yeah, it's fun though. Very fun. I would love to actually keep going with it. I still write stuff even though I have a little bit of soap opera series going on. But I put down a channel and I believe people really love it. And I just do it every day, you know, be consistent with it. And I don't know, I don't know. To answer my own question, if I had at least favorite book, I would have to say the house of drama is my least favorite book. Because reason why?

5:09It was a bad time. It was a bad time between friends and 80. Oh, there's why I said, I'll explain it. I tell the story of why it's my least favorite. It's my least favorite because of at the time I was dating some of my friends I was dating. And then we were like talking and trying to get in the relationship. And they had X's getting packed into the. All this stuff. And then I was like, yeah, it's so bad. It's so bad. That's why it's my least favorite book. That's my least favorite book so bad. I really, and I had kept it for years, but I have, I have threw it away at one point. I was, I'm just throwing this car away because this is too much. And I can't believe my memory. Remember everything that happened and what made it so bad at the end.

6:11I make it so bad. I used to go home sometimes when I was like, I think I was a teenager when I made this. And I used to go home and I used to go back down and jot it down and write it again. And write some more stuff. And I was like, okay, this happened. This happened. You got to the point where people got so scared of like, of the book. It was like, oh, my God. I was like, what are you writing about? It was like, oh, my God, you're writing about like, what happens in the classroom or something like that? Yeah. It's so scared. But it was a good book though. Some of them was like, someone was like, Ben, this is impressive. I thought I was like some CIA agent or something. I don't know. No good. I was scared. I was like, you know, I was scared right away. It's just a book, man. I almost got in trouble for any crap. I was like, oh, Lord. But it's just like, it's a good book. I was not least angry because it is so short. If I could make it to a show, I would. I would make it to a show that actors in it and just letting fly.

7:13Yeah. What did that be awesome? Yeah. You also, do you have a book that you would love to make to a TV show? Yeah. When my children's books, someone said they were going to do it. But then they, I don't know, they had personal problems. And so they did. It's called going to build a boat. And it's how, and it's the children are getting to know each other and going on an adventure. And they're going to build a boat. And it's all different children. So people who, like children who probably would never have done something like this, got together and they learn to love each other and love themselves and accomplish something and be proud. And I would love to see that in a story, like in a little children's movie or something. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. That one I dedicated to my dad because he passed away before I wrote it.

8:16And he, he built boats. And he included everybody in his business. And anybody, there's nobody had an excuse, you know. So yeah, you can do it. You can do it. So that's why I wrote that book. Well, I love the back for it to it. Ooh. Wow. Build a boat. I like the title. I like the title of that. Man. It almost turned into a show. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. It was really close, but he had such personal problems. He just couldn't do it anymore. And I felt really bad. But, you know, maybe it's still there. It's still. It's still a chance. I hope it is a chance because I think that's what it's kind of like missing on TV. I feel like a lot of cartoons don't have meanings anymore. This is like an addition to have a meaning that is have a meaning.

9:18You see, like, like, how is the storytell in cartoons? I think that's missing now. Yeah. So it really is. It really is. It's like, I feel a little bit off topic. But it's a little bit off topic. But it's like, I miss like, like, a frightful song. Sometimes you have. Oh my god. Oh, yes. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. I love that cartoon. Yeah. He would, um, you would definitely find a lesson in there literally. Oh my god. Okay. This makes sense. And that makes it. But yeah. Honestly, I think it's. I think this is. I think this was wrong with the cartoons now, even like, hey, Arnold. Like some people like, hey, Arnold and I go back and watch some clips of hey, Arnold. Hey, man, that cartoon was really saying something. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I should have a message.

10:18Right. They definitely should have a message. I don't know. I don't know what happened. To add to things like that. It's, it's amazing to me to. I love cartoons. I mean, I tell you right there. I mean, never too old watch cartoons. Some people think you did think that. But you never are. Yeah. That's the same thing for video games. Some people think you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. It's been over centuries. I mean, like social media in general is the problem. Oh. Yeah. That's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Too much information for kids, I think. All right. I think they both have really good things to offer. But since I'm a writer, I like books. I mean, I like that like books.

11:20Yeah. You're right. They both do have a way of. I don't know how to explain that one. I don't know. Yeah. They both have something there. Yeah. Yeah. They definitely do got something there. Yeah. It's just like social media is more like a news outlet. Right. Like a news outlet. Right. And books are more like the, the worth of finding something like the, especially for the brain, you know, more like the old media power play. Like the old media like. I don't know. If I had to ask my own question, I think. Yeah. I think. Yeah. I feel like books are better. That's good. No. Yeah. Great. I was just sitting there and I was like, yeah, this is, yeah, this is great. This is great. I actually like that right there. But yeah, books.

12:20I feel like I can get more knowledge from them. I feel like social media for me. I don't know. When I stop, you know, using it heavily inconsistently, I figured out. I really figured out that my brain was a lot better off social media. I could think more clearly, more arguably. Okay. It's bad because the specialist, like 80s, deep people are so bad because we have this dopamine hit of wanting to be on social media all the time, like. or misses out there or missing that, missing that. But really, I'm missing anything. Right. And like, there's nothing really on here. It's just crap, crap, crap. But you know, some people are there. I've heard the pig books. I didn't even gotta wear about a tweet or something. Or somebody said this and somebody said that. I could sit down, read a book, go on my day. I think that's what's got to kind of mess me up a little bit

13:22in a way. Cause that's why I read the damn books. Those are me, cause like, Oh yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. It's just definitely doing it. Oh, oh, I had another question. Well, no, with the butt. Definitely dope though. I mean, I feel like if I had to choose, I would definitely always pick books. Not such me, you know, but. So it should be nice, but looking for this nice, you know, I would say use that as a tool. I said I'm using it for friends. I used to use it for friends and stuff like that. And I was like, okay, so boom, boom, boom. Like, hey, it was chopping it up. But it's like, it's also sucks though, because what's your friends are going off social media? You don't get to talk to them no more. I'm a fool. Like once they delete that, it's like, oh, I'll help someone keep in touch with you. I don't even go out to the movie or something.

14:22All right, it's just like, okay, I want to go out to this movie or do that movie or you know, or do you watch a movie? I mean, it's pretty interesting. So, so have you, what was, what is your, like was books your passion, or did you have something else with your passion? I have always written, out my like birthday cards. I used to write poems and songs and stories all since I was a little girl. And I really loved that. But I never thought that it could be something more. I never thought I could actually write a book. But yeah, children are my passion to help them survive this world and have, you know, emotionally well-balanced childhoods and having those being able to handle your emotions even as you go through teenage years and adult years

15:24and, you know, and being able to overcome any hard emotions that you can't get rid of. So that was my passion. I love how your passion is helping kids and helping navigate to the world. I feel like a lot of people don't necessarily feel like this. I mean, there's people that do feel like that and then there's people that don't feel like that. I feel like it makes sense. I mean, since it does, yeah, definitely kids are definitely, it's definitely the focal point because I would love to, like, you know, help children, like, you know, get into their careers and, you know, get to the next level, you know, because sometimes adults, the adults don't want to do it. It's like, it's just like, I'm trying to help you here and then, you know, like, yes, the adults are way more stubborn. I mean, kids are too, but the adults are way more stubborn

16:30than kids. Oh my gosh, for sure, yeah, for sure. You could be sitting there and be like, okay, I'm trying to get you to the next level, sir. I'm trying to help you out. Yeah, I know you're trying to help me out, but I got to take a break. I got to take five days of not having therapy, which is like, I'm trying to help you, sir. But anyway, it's just like, yeah, I could not be a therapist. I feel like I will lose my brain a little bit like, wow, you know, but I'd rather, yeah, it's best to encourage kids. Kids over adulting. Yeah, it's like, I don't know just to put it, put it in perspective. It's like just to think about it. I just thought about it like some people don't ask for help. And it's like, it's like crazy to me. Yeah, I mean, don't, don't know, right?

17:34Yeah, children don't know that what is wrong when they, when they have those feelings. So if we teach them to ask for help when they're young, maybe when they get older, they're teenagers and they have problems, maybe they'll learn to let their feelings, that their emotions be looked at by somebody else, like a parent or, you know, a teacher or something. And just to help them navigate through that. Yeah, I like the way you said that though. People want to navigate through that. You know, when they're, you know, when they're younger, then when they, you know, get older, yeah, they ask for help. I mean, that is amazing right there. That's true though, because I feel like, you know, well, hmm, dang, that kind of reminds me of my story. Yeah. Because I'm not a person, like, I don't like asking for help,

18:37but, but it's just, I got used to doing things in my own, but then it's like, okay, it was hard for me in my teenage years because I didn't want to ask for help. No, I was like, no, I didn't get it, I got it. You know, and they'd be like, no, I don't know, anybody need some help on this, right? I don't think so, man. And I try to be mature, I try not to be like that. You know, towards people, you know, I try not to be like that because they're like, oh, you're, you're some, you know, me, me, you're, you're some mean guy or something, like, you know, it's some use to, you know, get it done because, you know, in this world, sometimes you have to do things on your own and sometimes you can't ask for help. When it's all about you and having self-love and self-care, I mean, sometimes, you know, some people want to help and some people don't.

19:38I love helping, I love talking to the people, different people, you know, and just helping people. That's one thing about podcasting. I've talked to a lot of people and I just loved it. And I was like, okay, at first, I was like, okay, let's go ahead and do this live and see, you know, what people would think about the show. At the time, I forgot to say, I mean, I had been podcasting for a couple of years now, but when I started, I was literally in my, I think I was like, yeah, that was really, yeah, when I started, I was in my dope years and I was like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna see who comes up, they come up in here. It's fine, nobody comes in there, it's all right. And then people started coming to the show when they started getting consistent. It was called Spotify Green Room Back then, but until they got rid of it and they got deleted

20:39or whatever, you know, and stuff like that. And I was like, man, this was a good app. Like everybody could come up there and speak. It's kind of like that TikTok has their audio rooms, but a little bit different, but made for podcasts. But I loved it, I loved every last bit of it. And I would never, I would never, I would never change for the world. I just love podcasting in general, cause, but it wasn't my idea to start a podcast. No, cause a little friend had encouraged me to just, she was like, you, you have a good voice for radio and I was like, oh, really? And then, and then I was like, wow, okay, that's how it started. It's nice to meet all kinds of people, eh? Right, it's nice to meet a lot of people in the,

21:40in the two of them, I love talking to people, and I don't just talk to them. I mean, just putting words of encouragement into people, and then, and then it's talking one lady was like, she's like, you speak a lot of life. And I was like, I was really done off by it. I was like, well, I'm just speaking, Galia, I, I, I, I, I, I, time to go down with understanding what she was saying. It was late. It's like late night. Oh, it was like a, been to, how, well, I, I guess I would call him into health episode. I was on their show and I went over and I went into their room and we just started talking and stuff like that. But he wanted me to talk a lot. They wanted me to be consistent with it. But I was like, I cannot be consistent all the time with it. And, you know, and do my show as well. So, man, that's a lot.

22:42It's a lot, it's a lot. And it's all about like, hey, it's like, hey, you know, you would have come up, come up and I said, what time I didn't want to come up? I was like, I'm sleepy. I'm tired of the ill. He told me I'd be coming up with some, it's a, it's an ill, loving a clock or something like that. Because though, they was from different Arizona. So he was kind of different, they had different time zones. So I was like, oh, oh, from the south, I would say. So I was like, oh, I'm in Canada. I'm in, I'm in Canada in Ontario near Niagara Falls. Oh, I love Canada. I'm like, I love Canada. Yeah. I love Canada. I just love Canadian people. Because I mean, they just chill, laid back. Yes, I just like, I don't know. If I go in too wide, I'm like, I might as well go into why I say that. Because I don't know. I've been in Canada, met people in Canada.

23:44And I used to have a woman that used to come up and shoot from Canada, but she moved to India because of like scholarship, there's something like that. And I was like, man, her name was Ibi. Like she had a different type of name. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm forgetting. But I don't know what part of Canada, because I don't know if she's from Toronto or Ontario. And she was amazing. She was amazing. She would bring her friends up and introducing to the show and stuff like that. I was like, man, that's the support. Like they really love the channel. And also, I went to her show. And I mean, it was like over hundreds of people that there felt like. And I was like, oh, she's the new girl on the blog. Okay, you know, and I was like, that's a good thing. To see like people in Rockwood, New Vegas, you know, I love that.

24:45I love people, they're just all around. Nice people. It is nice. Like they really, they really, they really got you back. You know what I mean? So many nice people all over the world. I just, I met so many through podcasts. And they're from everywhere. I just love them. So you met it. But what type of people you met at the podcast, Nick? So I met people from Australia, from South Africa, from all through the States, Costa Rica, England, Germany, all different places just by doing podcasts. Because when I accept a podcast, I don't know where they're from. It's very interesting. Yeah, you know, it does be like that because you're like, I don't know where you're from. But then you, then you get, then you, you know, then you hop on to it,

25:46then you find help in it from like, Oh, that's amazing, you know, it's amazing. I love, that's amazing that you, it's talked to people from South Africa, you know, a little bit of people from, you know, from also from the States. Yeah, that's, that's interesting. I actually like that because just talking to people in general, it just feels great. It feels great to give them a podcast and talk, especially, especially when you, now we're going to say bored or whatever, but sometimes I know for me, I was bored sometimes and I was like, man, I was like, anybody can come up the day. I really feel like talking. I feel like I've been to somebody and they would come up. And I mean, it was consistent. I mean, I had a consistent, I had a consistent people on the live show. I just hated it because I got discontinued.

26:49Like, hey, just got discontinued. And it got discontinued. She's out in 23, when Green, when Spotify Green Room went down. I have noticed like, there's barely social audio spaces now. And it's like some people find that one good one and then they start to venture out. Then I'm like, yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to go to Clubhouse because I mean, I went one time and it was so confusing. I was like, how did I expect to be worth this thing? It's like, I don't think, I mean, I was so confused. Hey, what do you, I said too many, too many, I don't know, but I guess I don't know what the system, what to call it. It was just crazy, but I barely do them now because there's barely spaces to do it at home. Oh, yeah. You know, someone told me you should go and tick talk and do it. I said, yeah, I know why. I might one day maybe hit the pins.

27:51I don't know how to start. I'm not a tick talk guy. But I don't really there. I don't know how to start a audio room if I had to. If I'm a search did up, it's still didn't help me. So it's like, we would just, I mean, it's amazing. What I do it maybe one day, maybe one day, maybe not. I don't know. Take that cool, cool, whatever. I mean, it had three different name chains. Yeah, I remember it was fine. Then from fine to musically, then third name was tick talk. And two identities, I was like, wow, I was like, yeah, maybe one day, I don't know, because I was going to do one with somebody and they never did it. I was like, okay, if they do audio room, maybe I'll get the hang of it, if they do it all day. Oh, yeah. But they did Twitter spaces a lot. So I was like, what is space isn't good,

28:52but Twitter spaces can be crazy. It's the same time. I've seen some drama and I'm like, whoa, our fan base is going at each other. And this is about that one. That's about the down one. I mean, it was just, to me, it was just amazing. It was just amazing to see people or I'm that type of person. I'm like, I don't like chaos. I like the, I don't know how to put it. But I like, right, all right, something peaceful. I love me, peacefulness and still there's not, the odds everywhere, like, but I had that, it's somewhat in my podcasting career. I had that, and I was like, wow, I wouldn't even want to go back on those recordings, even though I do have those, but I don't want to go back on them and listen to that, because it's just too negative and bland. Nobody wants lists, all right?

29:54Yeah. At one time, at one time, it was way back, but this will help the story. You know, I had this one time. It was a lot of times, ladies, she was about 30 something years old. She was probably, probably a little bit older than that now though, but at the time, she was in her 30s and the drama hit here and it had something to do with me or whatever. And then when I left and I disappeared, then I didn't know the recording still was going to be up because when he ended it, it still was a recording and it got fun to my email. And I was like, oh, she, I was like, damn, because how I spy on fire, Greenroom was at the time you recorded, you got so send it to your email and download it and put it on your podcast. Which was actually smart. I didn't see to me, I didn't see to be on your rooms. Do that, but a sub-stereo, that was a very, that's a very,

30:56I met people all over the night down there, but that at the time, they say, oh, that episode's our guys, what are you doing? And then instead of there, they said that 50 minutes got something going on. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, because I thought that I was like, oh no, he said, he said it was about to start one today. I'm not going to sit here and do this, this mess. But I mean, it was amazing. She put it at a 12 year old at the time. He just thought, I think he's like 1415 now. But as she went at him at like a grown edel and I sat there and I was like, oh my God. I was like, why did you go at this poor little child? I was just thinking it was so wrong. And they were, I know there was from Texas, but it's like, okay, you're from Texas, but you can't be rolling head on, Steve on. That's a whole child right there. And it's like, wow. Like, godly. I mean, people have no remorse.

31:56I felt bad. I felt bad for him. I didn't get to feel bad for him now. Like, he was, he was very dreamy. He was very dreamy. He was smart. He was like, tell us what I was like. He was like a next genius. Like, I was like, how smart he was. I was like, what was it? This is for, you know, I know love. He can't show a couple times, but people, I am one guy. He thought it was weird. But I said, it's not, yeah. This is a podcast. I mean, we're not one oh, we're not one oh one way each other. Like, I mean, like, he thought it was weird. I'm like, that's weird. Y'all, I think he was, excuse me. I think he was jealous. I think he really was jealous because that kid was more like a poor than he was. He's like, he's like 20 something. I'm like, oh, bro, you're 20 something. Hey, no, I mean, literally,

32:57they would have felt like, they would have felt like, yeah, these people just, it was just people, but that's the bad side of my career. But I have ventured out and had a lot of positive things happen. And I had good feedback one time. People would tell me they was like, man, I love coming to your show because you know, you make people, you know, I don't know how they had it, but they had a good way. And it was just too hard to know how good, how good that they said it. They said, I like your show because you're not one here. Like the other people talking about politics and all this other bull crap. And then, you know, like, not since. So, well, I was like, man, I really appreciate that. But yeah, that was a lot of podcasts. If they haven't like another way, live social audio way, and I'll be searching them up a lot of times because I don't like going to the same app that I've already been to. I'm like, I don't know, you're going to have, you know, they ever come out with another one, something new, a fresh.

33:59You know, I definitely would be there. I definitely would be there for, yeah, to do more like the podcasts, but right now, I am not there. I'm not there with it. Because sometimes we, you know, sometimes we can do a, you know, sometimes we could do so much, sometimes either we're going to do something great or something bad. So, you know, I mean, it's pretty interesting. Pave it. Rue, true. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. All right. Right. Um, yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Sure though. Um, what should I like favorite TV show? Like a favorite TV show? All right. Please. All right. Thank you. Great. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

35:00Oh, yeah, that may lock is definitely dope. I remember when I was young, my parents had me watching that lock and I mean, oh, the first just way better than the new version they have. I mean, no disrespect to Kathy Bates. So he kept Bates as a good actor, but don't give me wrong. This thing is older one's better because any gruff that could help me yell. That was a different time. That was a different time. It's like, right. I don't blame you. He writes about that. Man, that's a good thing. I'm not thinking, see, that's

36:16that's a good way. I might throw another. I'm not getting to another time because it's like, yes, the older stuff is getting better. I feel like we're in that time now of where the older stuff is outweighing the newer stuff. We don't have good shows like that anymore. And I'll be sitting down like, yeah, I agree with that. I'll kind of old told myself because I mean, they got pretty good I chose you know, out here, but it's like, it's like the older stuff is like the 90s, the 80s,

37:23you see more stuff like that. It's way better. It's like, you see now, writers getting inconsistent. What's another thing? That's a bad part. Oh, like, yeah, I think it's like, yeah, oh, day, yeah, but like something, no, it's a good tool for business stuff. I would say, maybe business stuff, but for us aren't movies. That should never be touched or like music. That should never be touched. And I had some good to it and bad to it. I would say it's better. Definitely would say, definitely would say, you know, business great. The other stuff that him is to do, no, aren't. It's crazy. People be out of his air and I'm like, oh my god. Yeah,

38:27yeah, I don't, I don't want to get out there and actually draw something. Like, oh, uh, like, or digitally put it together. I mean, man, people, yeah, this young generation loves air like crazy. I get, I get tired of seeing it. Oh, yeah, you're right about that. No heart, no emotion, no nothing. And then they, they just, like, they'd be like, oh, right, write me this story, write me that story, write this, write that. It's like, at the end of the day, it's like, I write a book with AI. It's not going to. It's some, some people I've seen got called you to AI writing a book. And it was just on YouTube

39:30talking about that. I was like, that is funny. It's crap. Then you know, you're not about that. AI had 10 minutes sucks. It's like, I love, I just miss when stuff were made by humans and he was just, you know, stopped relying on AI. Yeah, it's cool. But it's not to the point where we feel like we need it. Maybe in the future, maybe, but right now, we got a lot of human stuff still going on, you know, a lot of, a lot of things we can do. I mean, people just want to, I don't know, I don't want to say this generation got lazy, but I don't want to say that. It's just like, yeah, they kind of did. Like, come on, write a book.

40:57I don't know. It's such a good point. That is such a good point. Because I thought I'd feel too, because I'd be like, we need more imagination and they had more doing stuff on our own. But first is, you know, having other people, well, I mean, you can have help. I don't even know, but having AI, having AI, I hope you all know how to help. You're right about that. That's how I think of it is. I love when going outside was a thing,

42:11hockey playing, I mean, playing hockey, playing soccer, playing basketball. I mean, I miss those days. People just don't want to do that anymore. It's, it's, it's bad. It's bad. Well, yeah, it's bad. You're right. I feel like a lot of people don't touch grass no more. They got, they got, they got, they got to touch grass. And they got, no, they got to touch grass. And it's so bad. People don't, I don't know. People just stroll on that phone until they can't stop strolling anymore. And it's like, why? Why keep strolling? Maybe now. But yeah, it's like,

43:13this was a good conversation though. I've seen joy this conversation. Maybe, maybe one day, you know, maybe one day, maybe run a conversation back again. This is actually interesting. And I should like, I should like, I don't know this. I think one day I always try to invite people back to the 711 podcast. Um, I like trying to invite people back because it's actually good, you know, it's such good. I don't know when, when that, whenever you're free to do another one to me, and we run back, he ran back for sure. Yeah, that's your conversation. You know, it was good. I love how you talked about book and the meaning behind the book and also talking about your book almost being a TV show.

44:13I mean, that's very interesting. Yeah, yeah, maybe so. I mean, I don't know. I like having people, I like having people twice sometimes, because especially with the interview. But yeah, definitely, definitely nice. Definitely nice. There's anything that, you know, people to, you know, follow by book or anything like that, I like that. I like that. You know, uh, y'all go check that out literally. You know, this is

45:21a good interview. Definitely, definitely. I mean, yeah, I'd love to see you. That's why I love, I love, you know, interviewing people that are like, very nice, very nice person. I love your conversations, too. Not going to lie. Uh, but yeah, I mean, I guess I'll, you know, see you want to see you or whenever that, uh, whenever that will be, but, um,