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BFB Post-Free Agency Subscriber Mailbag -- Part II

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Jake and Brad are back with another episode jam-packed with more great questions from our Founder’s and Substack Chats. Today, they get to the second half the subscriber mailbag featuring the following terrific topics.

  • Draft strategy (6 vs 24 prioritization)
  • Trade-down scenarios
  • Player evaluation (Proctor perception)
  • TE value/matchup weapon (Sadiq)
  • Offensive philosophy (OL vs skill talent)
  • WR investment strategy
  • Quarterback room outlook
  • Veteran QB addition
  • Malik Willis decision
  • Coaching differences (Stefanski vs Monken)
  • Impact of coaching changes on scouting
  • Offseason improvement vs media perception
  • Offensive line depth/holes
  • Top remaining free agent target
  • Long-term roster-building timeline (2026–2029)
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0:00Has the news been getting you down? I'm Megan McCartle, and I'm here to help. I'm the host of a news show from Washington Post Opinion, called Reasonably Optimistic. And it's an antidote to the pessimism that's riddling America right now. Every Wednesday, I'm going to talk to people who see a path forward. It does seem to me that there is some awakening of a desire to act together to solve problems where they are. No, I am a believer in America, and that's worth fighting for. Join me Wednesdays on YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back for part two of the Browns Film Breakdown subscriber mailbag with again, another full slate of great questions. Happy to get to it. We have, listen, some great topics from the first part. Make sure you go back and check that out. And if you missed our visit around the AFC North a couple days ago, make sure to check that out as well. Also continual great content up on the website, including both and Elton Jenkins Film Room now. So we've covered most of the Browns primary free agents. We have a few more to get to on the secondary side. And then we also have a Kaden Proctor Film Room that will go up as well.

1:02So we can keep studying these offensive tackles. Great content up on the site and a great show for you today. What's up everybody. Welcome into today's show. Browns Film Breakdown now on Friday, March 20th. Hopefully we've had a crazy day of the first day of March. Man is upsets galore. That would be fun, right? We're going to be in for day two. And hopefully you guys are enjoying the end of your work. And the end of your work week and are winding down. And this podcast finds you well. I know Brad over there is in the thick of putting in some more bets, maybe cashing some out. He is in the weeds as they say, trying to make some deals here to line the pockets with Fandall. Yeah, you know, I was I was looking, you know, at. At some of these bets. I was looking for NFL futures is what I was looking for. And I wanted to see where the Browns were at for wins. You had mentioned four and a half on part one.

2:03I think I did mention four and a half for their odds. Let me see here. Are they four and a half or five? If it's four and a half, I'd be inclined to jump on that. Yeah, right now. Let's see here. Right. I don't see it right now. All right, there we go. NFL futures. You got it. We have the Browns are not too high. They're plus 25,000, 25 to one on that. I don't have the wins number in front of me. That's super blogs. I do have more NFL, maybe on the more NFL side regular season wins. There we go. So they have the browser six and a half is the number. Oh, baby. Six and a half is the number they have currently. You can get plus 140 on six and a half over on the over. On the over and then under you're getting minus 165. So they want. They want action on the under. They want the over action.

3:03Yeah. There you go. Bangles in the division there nine and a half. I would be inclined to play that number. There's not. I don't think there's any teams. Wow, they have the Ravens at 11 and a half. I might jump on that under while we're in Vegas to be honest with them. They have any teams over 12. I highly doubt that they have Pittsburgh only a seven and a half. So Seahawks 11 and a half. Yeah. Who are the other heavy favorites for the year. So like chiefs and bounce back here. You got the Rams. Let me see here. So all right. I remember. Eagles at 10 and a half. Chiefs at 10 and a half. Yeah, I don't think there's any over 12, which I think so. Normally there is or maybe the Ravens up at 11 and a half. Now there's a prize that didn't fall more with the Hendricks and.

4:06The Crosby stuff. I remember them saying before when they all came out maybe like a couple of months ago. I don't think there's anybody like at 11 and a half. I think the highest was like 10 and a half. It was like the first time in a long time. Or maybe it was 12. I don't know either way, but normally somebody's up higher than that. I think. Yes. They have the Browns and like the Titans commanders. Buccaneers are at eight and a half. Yeah. They're in that kind of range with the Saints are also at six and a half. They have the dolphins at four and a half. So I think that's probably right given what they've done to that roster. Wait. Why go get Malik then. I've read that some people think that they want to see. You know him guide like what he can do. With H and or Etienne. I don't know that whole thing about how your name in these like high pronounced. These names are so funny. Super. I'm with you. It is as a dolphins. And I would be concerned about getting the answers you wanted to get out of him. Well also kind of simultaneously understanding.

5:07Needing to reset that roster in such a way. But. You're you're definitely running the risk of like not giving this your best shot. That's what I think they do draft offense this year. They go get a receiver. They go get more offensive lineman. But yeah. And living in that world where you had stuff to put somebody in front of your players. Like we're still going to put our best foot forward. And we got this quarterback like. If you believe in Malik, like I believe in Malik. Right. Then I wouldn't have been trading away. We never did address that he did only get 22. Oh, I addressed it. I lost. Casey. Yeah. What was the bet? What was the. The way I have to buy a Brown's film breakdown t-shirt for someone in the Thursday night chat. It was right. It's Phil not a bot. He wanted t-shirt. He's getting to see Brown's film breakdown t-shirt. And I won the bet the week before, which was picking the playoff teams from the year prior. Which I had the Seahawks in the NFC playoffs, which beat Casey by one point.

6:11And I had him as the foresee it, which was shocking to me because I don't remember picking that. But I still haven't heard anything about whether the Browns were poking around on that or not. So it must have been not. Is what I would gather at this point. Yeah. So either way, when you win a bet on always on Cleveland, you get Brown's film breakdown swag. Either I have to buy it or Casey has to buy it. That's the deal. The chat will always win. You bet, but the chat always win love that love that angle. Speaking of the chat, we got some great questions from the sub stack chat to go through. Let's do it. Mason Herman. What would hurt you more? What would hurt more the Browns take a tackle at six. And then there's a run on wide receivers and they miss out on the top guy at 24 or vice versa. They take watch TV at six and miss out on a top tier tackle at 24 because of a run on tackles. I don't have an answer for that that's going to suffice.

7:13I think the risk like, you know, if this Jacksonville pick was 14, it would just be so much better. I think you're risking the other position no matter what. It's just the reality of it. I think that there's certainly guys like drop off more though. I think it's kind of equal, Brad. I really do. I certainly think I trust. Like I think I trust Karnel of all of the guys that they could get a six between feeling and some others. In terms of tackle. Being the left tackle for just talking about can you be the left tackle. I trust Tate to be a really good NFL player. So with that baseline, just trust not to say Monroe can't be a great left tackle. But like, I do think there's going to be an interesting wide receiver there at 24. And like, yeah, there's a way in which like I was watching some of the PFF guys mock this morning for each team. And all the big three air quotes is subjective.

8:13But the big three receivers went after the Browns. Browns took freelling. They all went and then the Eagles. They said take Omar Cooper, which was an interesting pick is they're like, well, AJ Brown might be getting moved. And they wanted third wide receiver. And it's like, well, that would be a real punch in the gut, wouldn't it? It just comes down to how they view the guys in that tier. Do they view Cooper Boston? Concepcion very similarly, right? You know, I probably do two without having known the background of those guys, right? And how they are in the board and all that. But like, yeah, dude, I think you also have a chance to still have loans. A chance like I don't know that there are so many teams chasing tackles between. I think there's a run of them after the Browns. And then there's like a gap there where I don't necessarily think some teams are doing that. So like, you know, is is is low move available at 24 is like Miller available at 24.

9:14I think there's going to be a similar. I just don't I don't have a a massive opinion on that it's one or the other there. That I'm more like disappointed. I certainly feel like. We put it this way. I feel really like there are three pretty damn good receivers there. I don't know that there are three damn good left tackles. So like, yeah, you know, and you could probably say four damn good receivers. Cooper kind of in that range too. So I kind of find myself wanting to get one of those receivers. And for sure. Get get a tackle later. But I'm also very fine with feeling and kind of playing with fire. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's an interesting setup there where like both sides of that position battle carry risk. They do. They do. A month and 10 days or so from the draft. I would feel more comfortable going while I just see for early. Now that may change. So I'm with that. Paul Belanca.

10:16I see you have a proctor. What's that? Oh, so what's up, Paul? What's up, Paul? I thought you were correcting his name. Mr. Belanca, Paul, what's up? I see you have proctor for us in your mock draft. He, if he came from say Iowa instead of Alabama, would we see him differently? Probably probably there's a faction of people who would. There's no doubt. I mean, and listen, like Evan Neil hasn't helped himself out entirely like the Alabama hasn't. Yeah, it's not Nick Sabons group anymore. So there's some of that you got to, you know, account for, right? But like I can't get myself to worked up about it. If you're going to do it on the same side of the Ohio State token and kind of be right. You know, like I just, you want to stop that stuff as much as you can. I mean, the end of the first round risk on proctor with what he puts on tape is fair. So yeah, I think there's going to be a large portion of another Alabama tackle is what happened.

11:20But he's, he's played left tackle. He's been on left tackle. That's who he is. So that part of the element is different. Now the question is again, though, like I said on yesterday's show, how much does he love ball? Is he going to keep the weight managed? Is the player we saw at the end of the year, the player that you're going to get all the time? That's what you got to solve. I think there's a lot of really encouraging tape there at the end of the year. So yeah, I mean, I can get with it. If you, you know, you take tape at six. So I just, I'm not worried about the Alabama stuff. It's a different offense than they were trying to run back in the two, three years ago, four years ago. So yeah. Yeah. B runs 1028. My boy Bradley Bruns. It's kind of the me and you in one name. It is. I've often thought that I've been confused by seeing that sometimes. Like you don't really see Bruns as a last name very often. Yeah. It is us being morphed into one doppelganger. One person. Yeah. Bradley is great, though.

12:21And I appreciate his feedback all the time. I feel like they're going to add another quarterback to the room. No wonder I like him so much before it's all said and done. I prefer. You didn't like your article, though. Nope. Could have helped him out there, Bradley. I prefer a vet to raise the floor and push competition forward. Same for YGC room. I feel like there's too much youth to let Jerry Judy be the one having to set the tone for the group thoughts. I thought so too, but we're here. They've let a lot of names go by. That's why I'm still hopeful there can be some sort of trade, but. Yeah, I don't, I don't have an answer. I would have signed one. I think I think having one that could have been. To some degree, a leadership thing, just like not even a big contributor, but someone who could just show. The young guys, how professionals go about the position, doing the little things, the dirty work stuff. Like. Would have appreciated it. They don't think they need it.

13:21We'll see if they get by without it. Can Malki Corley be that guy? Well, he does some of those things right. He just hasn't proven enough on the field to like come in and demand. Everybody's respect, right? Like anybody could if he comes in this year and has another good year, gets more involved. I know is plays with attitude. Yeah, that could happen. Sure. But like for what we wanted them to bring in, I even think Corley would benefit from something like that. Yeah. So agree. Yeah, man. So that's where that's where I'm a little disappointed, but we'll see if it manifests a different way. Yeah. The thing about I still think a trade is very possible. The thing about trade candidates are none of those guys are like usually. They're being traded. 100%. All right. Harold White. What's your take on my preference for an O line. With an access of wider sewers and ringbacks creating a sudden strike offense that keeps pressure on the defense on every play.

14:23That said, why not draft wider seaver with three of the first four picks, not trying to rely on Cedric, comma, thrash. Me neither, Harold. I think they take two in this draft. I think taking three in their first beginning whenever it's just a world this roster can't live in. I mean, I would I be stunned of two of the top three or wider sewers? No, could I see them going. Feeling, you know, Cooper and then really loving Chris Bell at 39 or something like that. Yeah, I could. So I think they're coming up. Unless they trade for one, I think they're coming out of the draft with two wider sewers is what my gut tells me. But three in a row is like, listen, I want it to get rectified. Voluming one position in the draft is just not sustainable. You got to keep your eye on other positions. Yeah, I think I guess it depends on what the questions come later. I'm going to leave it go for now.

15:26It comes up later. What we are going to do though before then is take a quick break. Yeah, we're going to come back from break and answer some more of your fantastic questions. Stick around. We'll be right back. The maps app that came with your phone. It's fine. If you enjoy waiting and guessing and inefficient routes or you could use map quest. Map quest is back with live directions, real-time traffic and faster routes. It moves when you move. Best of all, no prints are needed, no paper, no more misturns. Just you and the app get there fast with map quest. Download the map quest app on the app store or visit mapquest.com. Map quest, still getting you there. College basketball is nonstop. Big games, tight spreads, momentum swings every night. And now Fandall is giving you a way to turn that energy into bigger wins. With the college basketball parlay profit boost, here's how it works. Build any college hoops parlay you like, the early tip, the rivalry game, the ranked matchup, the late night west coast shootout, mixed spreads, totals, props, whatever fits your read of the slate.

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17:47All right, we are back with the final quarter of the mail bag. Fantastic questions from all of you. We appreciate all of your contribution DK 78 Jake. The personality differences between Stefansky and Munkan are striking. But what do you think the biggest noticeable difference will be between each coaches office. That's a good question. I do think that Todd is at least in recent years has been a better. Sequencer of plays. I think he's got a. I think he does a little bit better with. Trying to take advantage of numbers in certain situations. I think a lot of what Kevin. I think is struggled with is attacking weaknesses of defense. I feel like Todd has done a better job at least with the Ravens and Georgia and we'll see if it continues.

18:48If pinpointing where to attack how to attack and going after it relentlessly until the defense changes that. So I think it will feel different. I think it will look different. And I'm excited for I never know until you actually get it. But I feel like the general vibe of what they're trying to do will just have some more modern motion wrinkles that are meaningful and impactful and used as a part of it not a decoy. And he'll shift plenty. Yeah, I want to I will I can't wait to break it down for you guys really excited about that. But I certainly think that what I noticed is how well they attack weaknesses of defense is and I think that's where Kevin has struggled in recent years. And certainly, you know, he's also passed off play calling two straight years. So what is Kevin doing offensively anymore? I don't know. But where I thought he was good, very good at that at one point in his time here.

19:52I think that monk in it. At least I have the hope that he and from watching your film room and everything else like that he is just better on a week to week play to play basis of the chess match. This schematic, you know, giving your players an edge. And I think that he will do that. All right. Mark says I love to deke and would try to trade back a few spots and take him. But I would still draft him at six. I think he's a matchup night mirror is tight and two. I would line him up in the slot. My thoughts are draft players that impact wins and I think you can impact a lot of wins. Well, so if they match in base, you can throw. And if they play nickel, you can run with love your thoughts on him as a matchup nightmare. Am I crazy question mark? I think you're crazy. I think it's possible they moved down. He's in play.

20:52I think if you get into like that 12 to 15 range, he's in play. If you like him more than the receivers, I personally think that is a is a work like we're going to know. If Todd wants to continue his Brock Bowers, Darnell Washington, Isaiah likely Mark Andrews theme will know he takes him moves down and takes him. Then that's what we'll know. We'll know. Right. I think that they have struck gold with Harold. You can supplement Harold with another pick in this draft at some point. I think the depth. The completion of talent at that left tackle position or any offensive line angle there is just so significant that I have a hard time feeling like they've this is. It's not unrealistic, but it's not like six is too rich. You move down some. I think you can get there. He's good player.

21:52He would be useful. But the question I always come back to is like. You know, do you love a tight end for wide receiver reasons or do you love a tight end for tight end reasons, right? And if you're really like he's a wide receiver for us, I just would rather take a wide receiver, especially when they don't have enough of a future at that position. So I'm not going to be mad if they move down and take I think six is just too rich for that. But he's a good player. I do agree. So when you look around the league and you look at what Harold did, you know, how are you fitting that like you. You got to think about how you threaten defense is all the time and how you're going to dictate what coverage is there and. And what wide receivers give opportunity to force them in specific coverage is that open up portions of the field and tight ends as good as they are and can be a receiver we've seen teams get really excited. And there's only a few of those guys that do that. And I, you know, is to dig the right answer for what this offense needs to find long term success.

22:58I don't know that I think that's crystal clear. I just don't. Yeah, even though it would be fun him and fan it would be fun. But it feels. It feels like a bang like a pick 10 I even talked to him about that Jake on Wednesday about that. Like it's like a luxury pick for a team that's chasing something at that position. I just don't think the Browns are in that luxury spot yet. Yeah, there's other holes to fill first before you come back to that luxury spot. I feel like yeah, yeah. All right, Dave Street. Tell me how I can take this team seriously if we roll into 2026 with four versus 12. You guys hear any reason as to why we aren't in the mix or we weren't in the mix part of me on Malik will especially at the price he signed for. It is essentially a one year tryout. I was with Brad and all and I'm a leak. Jake. I don't I don't have the answer for that I don't like of there.

24:03It'll be hard for me to be super optimistic. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. I don't I don't have a good answer for it. I'm stumbling around the question. It is enough to make you very nervous. Good should or take steps and be a nice quarterback this year. It's possible. Do I have high hopes that's going to happen? I don't. I don't. So yeah, I would like I would like them to as we talked about on yesterday show play in the veteran market still. Disappointed they haven't maybe they still find the trade, but we'll see. Yeah, it doesn't we haven't heard a lot. You know, and yeah, I don't know. There's just not a lot out there at this point. It's not there's not challenge him. And if you want to and it but if you want us an answer it on him.

25:03Some people feel like they need more to get an answer on him. I feel like the answer you're going to get on him takes too long to wait for as my fear. Probably. Yeah, I think Shador will do the same thing he did this year. I think he's going to have flashes of this guy can play. And then within the same game, several throws that make you just scratch your head decisions away plays. It just have a hard time seeing it change. I do. All right. I agree. Nathan says Jake, do you think the browns have gotten better this off season between the new coaching staff trades and free agency? I think they pretty obviously have, but the national media has seemingly fallen on the other side, even accounting for these people not watching the browns with their full attention. It's annoying to hear. It is. Yeah, I do. I do think there's reason to believe that they're a better football team. I'm excited to see what Rootenberg can do.

26:06The defense is largely intact. I think they got some great picks to go after this. I think they've done a nice job with the old line. Yeah, they haven't changed anything else, you know, based on last year. I mean, it's probably possible, Brad. It's a very similar team, but with a lighter schedule, right, which helps. But yeah, I don't, I don't sit. I can't sit here and say what they have lost has made them a worse team based on what they have brought in. I feel like they're a little bit better. We'll see what the draft brings and what other moves they can still make. But I feel like, yeah, I feel like they're a little better. I feel like they're better. But does that, you know, being a little better on paper doesn't always mean. I'm not going to sit here and tell you guys the products better next year. We got to see all this come into play, right? First time head coach. There's a lot there. But I, I, I enjoy what they have done so far. Well, you and I have also recognized this. There's still a need for more. Yeah. Yeah, they're definitely better. The offensive line should be better.

27:07I like what they've done coaching staff wise for the most part. And I think if there's a huge difference, like if there's a massive leap in this in my Hail Mary scenario here where they are. Much, much better. I think a lot of that probably stems from Todd. Munkin reaching Shador in a way that enables him to play comfortable football or the game slows down for him or he provides him with enough easy answers schematically that you find a place where he can live in a 20 to 15 in the league quarterback area. And your defense is a lead again. And you are come very competitive. That's like the recipe for me. Yeah, I agree. I agree, man. It's, it's the way this team is better based on who's on the roster is that Shador takes a lead like he just takes a lead.

28:12Having a better offensive line will help that will help. There's no doubt. Mark B says, what is your call on the offensive line by position with the people we have on the roster now. Do we have enough talent in depth to be competitive? What are the biggest holes? Talent in depth to be competitive. Sure. I mean, right now it's Titus. It's Kevin. It's Elton and it's in its Zion. Right. The left tackle is KT or Dawn. Right. I would like to have a different player for left tackle. Right. I think KT had some moments, but would like to have a different answer for left tackle. I still think they also draft a guard and I and I think that's the that's where it's at. That's the battle. Could you could Whiplorb could Whiplorb be the center and Elton be the right guard. Sure. It's possible. Kit KT in the guard. I've heard you talk about that. Yeah. Other people talk about that.

29:15It's interesting. It's it's worth. I mean, I think he could be a better guard than he has a tackle personally. But yeah, that could that could certainly happen. Yeah. I think again, though, I think they're. They're going to come out of the draft with a guy who they think can play left tackle. Yeah, that's in the first three picks is going to be the case. Yeah, that would be shocker if they didn't come away with somebody that they thought could do that in the first three pick. Probably first two. Yeah, higher likely first two. Right. For sure. Matt. We've got three questions left, Jake. Matt asked if we could only sign one person. Any person left in free agency. Who would it be? Played this game. But let's play it again. Has it changed in a couple of days for you? I don't think there's anybody that's just the job. I mean, I still think if I just had to pick and I was like. Yeah. There's two players I would pick for the offense and that's.

30:19Maybe Taylor Decker and Joanne or Joanne Jennings. I just think they could use those types of guys veteran proven NFL experience at those positions. Right. So you didn't have to feel like I got to take Monroe for healing here. I got to take whoever at this spot. Do I think Decker wants to play for the Browns? I don't. But I mean, if I could add anybody, those are the two I think they could use a veteran at receiver. And I think they could certainly use a player who can play left tackle and Decker can do that. So those are who I would add. In retrospect to my comments on when I answered this with the tight end. And I said. Waller in a dream world, because I think his ceiling is still high. He showed that last year, but or Joanne who Smith or something. In retrospect, I think your point about having a tackle. And taking that pressure off of whoever you decide to draft, I think probably would would be more influential and Joanne Jennings impact as a leader probably is more significant than a tight end could bring.

31:24So I take. I see your point there and I kind of take back my thoughts on the tight end position. On defense. It's good perspective. Yeah, you know, on defense, though. I think that we nailed it with FNS and Dugger if you had to go there. Yeah, those are two positions that they just they don't need much over there. They just they they could use that. Just filler side the two offensive names. Obviously bigger price points. Yeah. If they could have signed any free agent at all, they would have been Malik for me. Me too. Kurt forest saw mock draft scenario where the Browns trading down to nine with Kansas City. We pick up a third from Casey who comes up to get Bane in front of Washington and the Saints is Bane make it to nine.

32:25Um, it's possible. The arms could scare some teams, um, you know, Carnot could go five to the Giants. You could see downs go higher than anybody thought. Yeah, it's possible. It's definitely possible. Because again, I was talking with with Liska from locked on Bengals on was in there's like some outside. Hope he could get to 10. So yeah, I think I think it odds are high that he goes top six. Um, and then yeah, that's possible. The chiefs could come knock and or somebody could come knock in Bengals even want to move up and make sure they get that guy. They really like. Yeah. Those little slight trade backs. You're picking up some capital. Um, I'm into that. Yeah, he goes on saying I think this is best case scenario so we can still take left tackle of our choice and pick up an extra third to me. See the big picture looking like this 2026 draft in 2027 for agency plugging all holes on roster gives us the best chance to win in 27.

33:27But knowing it to growth here with a rookie quarterback. All the young guys from 25 to 27 drafts will be ready to rock for the last year on the lake in 2028 in the first year in the dome in 2029. It's painful to say out loud, but I see more. I guess that that I see more. I guess he's saying in the dome. Wow. I don't know if I can just say see end 2029. I see his points. You're developing a poor, right? You're developing a core. But like I'm not even comfortable with like it's eerily scary to me when we start talking about the browns really trying to win this year scares me. Let's let alone talk about I get where he's coming from, you know, but also I think the browns understand they can't live in a world where they're like indicating.

34:27I just what the dolphins are doing might be might might, you know, ultimately be right or whatever. I don't know that the browns think that's the world that they should be living in right now. And I get it. I get workers coming from there are people that view this very much like a chart and looking at it and I get it. If that's where he's if that's how he's viewing it, then they should trade mile. Yeah, should no doubt. So, but I can't view it that way. I'm just not. And so they tell me they're viewing it that way. That's that that's what we said in the last yesterday show, right? Like when they tell us the view in it that way, then we'll start viewing it that way. So this is what I learned. This is the last question, but this is it's a great question. And this is why I paused earlier because it's such a good question to Jason finish things up here on this. Epic mailbag episode browns from break down. Jake, can you explain the scouting process how the scouting process may change when a coaching regime takes takes place.

35:31Change takes place. I'm losing the ability to read in the final question. I assume the GM and head coach sit down and talk shop regarding the draft. How does that ultimately impact the scouting departments philosophy or way of conducting business. Will they change how their priorities prioritize skill sets or how they evaluate film, etc. Here's how I would think it goes having no idea. Obviously, like I don't have a friend in the front office. I don't have a friend in the coaching staff like that world. How I would think this would happen is the defense of staff and Root and Berks philosophy are probably going to keep things hand in hand. Could there be a conversation where they talk to the area scouts. Now I know what would probably happen is everybody would come together Todd's hired. I would like everyone in the same room area scouts director. I want to talk with everybody.

36:34And then there's breakout sessions. Here's where we're looking for you have to have a broad picture like if Root and Berks coming in. I want to I want to look at safeties that can do split single and then can play quarters have that explain. There are pieces to the puzzle that they're certainly looking at. It's less dense for the defense now offense. You're going to sit down with your area scouts with the online group are going to sit down. Everton they're going to say, Hey, here's it's probably a one-pager. These are the traits that I look for war hop and his guys. Here's what you know, we're looking for a quarterback. Yeah, it's going to change. It's going to change. And you would have all those guys meet talk, delineate what those things you really prioritize. And there would also be big philosophical stuff here. Yeah. Hey, I know that you guys were a heavier 11 person L team the last three years. I want to be more 12. I'm really looking for this. And that would probably be more like the closed board room. Andrew Barry.

37:35High level college scouts and NFL scouts. And then like the coaching staff pieces that matter. You'd obviously have, you know, the OC and there and all that stuff. He like, yeah, we vision. Here's my vision of the offense. This is what I want to spend our highest amount of time scouting. Here's what I want, et cetera, et cetera, right? The starts with your in house guys evaluating in your in house guys. Then it works to like, here's what we want to scout for the draft. So yes, like the, the Browns certainly will be talking to the defense, be talking to Rootnerberg about what he's sort of trying to pinpoint in his world. I don't think that'll be much different than what they've done. The offense will rewrite. They will look for different things. They will prioritize some different stuff. Ultimately, it's Andrew's job to pick what Todd is looking for while also evaluating just general player upside. Yeah, I mean, to the questions purpose, which was like, what does that look like? You, since he's been hired, I would imagine all of those guys have come back to Cleveland. They've had a bigger meeting, bigger discussions.

38:41Here's what we used to be looking for. Here's what I think we want to be looking for, you know, all of that stuff will be in place. Like Todd's not getting that job without having that plan, that structure that he wants to talk about. Yeah, it gets funneled into like a big picture, big room meeting, talking with all the offensive guys. And then kind of doing breakouts into like position group to, you know, banter like probably up there with with Warhop and his guys are in front of the scouts talking about the traits we want. I want you to ask them these questions when you spend some time with them as an area scout. If you're going to Clemson's Broday, you know, here's what I want to look at with Blake Miller. They prioritize maybe three cone a little bit more than the last group did because they want to pull these guys a little bit more. Just little wrinkles, right? So it's just a little minor adjustments to what you're looking for that fits the system structure and process. And it's not, it's not that hard to do, but you also want to make sure that, you know, your guys are looking at what you think makes the best football player at that position. It's interesting. The only thing I'll say about it is that, you know, because it's Andrew Barry and that didn't change.

39:47Where like if it was a full regime change in the past like you'll see the scouts are out. It's all new guys, right? I'm bringing my own guys in that didn't change. So it's the same. I don't think I want to be careful. There are there are as a possibility that stuff kind of gets announced later. Sometimes. But we haven't heard of any big things that like, hey, the college director of college scouting or whatever, we haven't heard of any of that stuff so far. So we would think of this point on the ground. Right. I probably still the same. I would imagine that's very much the case. Usually the movement in that world is when GMs get replaced, not coaches. So, yes. So with that being the case, and it's not like Todd's bringing in his scouts or guys that he knows on the personnel side, it's really just Andrew having to take Todd's vision and present it to the same people.

40:50Which can be difficult at times because you mean where we may have guys that have been in place for years, looking for one thing or another. So, but if you're good at your job, you should be able to take a different teams different style. No way. This Harper just tied it up. I'm sorry to interrupt our show to two bottom of the eighth Harper. Whoa. Holy cow. We are recording this on Tuesday night. That's a library action. That is really cool. How fun. Yeah. So, but yeah, that's my only thought is that feels like you're nailing that. Yes. It's not that hard. That's not that crazy. Front office upheaval where you're the GM. Everyone's let go. That is bigger. This is not that. This is taking the things that like maybe Kevin likes to pinpoint these four traits. We want to pinpoint these different traits. You know what I mean? That's the stuff you're looking at.

41:50My biggest thing and last thing I'll say on this is my biggest fear in all of that. It's an interesting question. Is like I just look back at what Kevin was doing to what they had forced or tried to get Kevin to do with the Sean and put around him. And it feels like they no longer were in like lockstep of what this should look like in the trading of lack go before he was ready was like I feel like there's a little like steadily. I don't know if he ever had it all the way, but when he gave him the image of having it right early. But as he continued to lose and things got worse, it became clear that he was not did not have enough agency or power that a head coach should have in the NFL.

42:56I do have that agency and power. Let's hope that can be the case. I don't know that we'll have that answer. We got a lot of those hidden answers with the way they treated Kevin. I feel like Todd's inclined to stand up for himself a little bit more personality wise. So yeah, we'll see. I think I feel like Todd may have already done that. I mean, you know what I mean, I feel he may have already put his foot in the ground about like Jim's not coming back and I like Mike and all that stuff. Should have been part of the negotiation. Great questions. Great questions. And we love doing these. We will definitely do one right before the draft. Some of this stuff gets cleared up decisions trades. Some more signings, some more heat. And we can't wait to do it again. This is a big reason to come over and join us at brownsfrombreakdown.com. You get to get all your questions answered and obviously we love that interaction on those questions is a great show.

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