Beatlesongs, March 20, 2026

Oh, we had a little bonus. That was really nice. Wasn't it? Let me see. Does that one? No, it's like that one. Is it this one? Oh, yes, there it is because it says because it says Mike five on it. I'm a genius.

Raise me a little more. Oh, yes, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's good. By why I saw Ron Willie on Saturday. I was down here. Was he refreshed? No, but he was tell me how he's getting refreshed and who's getting he's getting refreshed soon. He was tell me all the things are good. Be gone. And I'm like, Oh, God. I have to say he looks pretty good. You know, for for what he thinks he looks like compared to what he actually looks like.

You know, and then he's like five years and I'm out of here. And yeah, I'm like, Michael. Yeah, he's already ready to become an expat living a caged area of Mexico. Oh, God. Yeah, be careful. Yeah. Well, they hitly cage you out. You know, you don't you don't go outside the cage. Well, what good is that? I don't know. What can't you can? I mean, you can't leave a certain you're in the premises or something. I don't know.

I don't know. I something, you know, Ron was rambling about, you know, he's telling me all the the beauty is going to get it. It's like the beauty. Yeah. That was cold. I have no idea. I got to be asked Rob. I'm very upset. I look at my pictures. I'm very upset. I think I might have a consult with Ron Stevens. And maybe he could give me a suggestion. Not that I would do anything. Not that I would do anything. Mind you. But maybe you got a passport.

Are you ready? I've got my real driver's license. I could cross the board. I guess so. I know. I don't. I need. Yeah, you need a passport. But that's. That's like, you know, everything's falling apart. Rob, you don't you? Oh, yeah. You can fall apart for a long time. Oh, thank you. But the kids think you're new young because you have a young attitude. The kids love you. They.

They're going to see Madrasina for advice. They don't come to rob letter for advice. Which kids? Are you talking about kids at WHP? I don't. Kids. They don't know me. Everybody knows you, though. I have no one knows me. They all know you. When you go to the meetings, everybody, you know, the youngsters, the youngsters talk to youngsters. The youngsters talk to you, Rob. No, they don't. No talks to me. Okay. Gabe, to Kofsky if he's there,

um, Linda, but she's not a kid. All the youngsters. All the youngsters. Anyway, I don't know. Mark Taukey. Taukey. We love Taukey. Mark is working for, well, we have a common friend. The friend we have is the one I bought my last call from. Right. Right. And Mark's working over there for him. I wonder how he's doing over there. He's always working with Ditalin, but different things. You know, he's always around, you know. Anyway, so I said, Ron, we met.

I miss you when you don't show up on Friday. I know, you know, we do. You know, this is usually, you know, that door should open wide in here. I said, Ron, I'm here. I've always said, I said, Ron makes the, the cross talk they would do it right now. You know, we need, you know, we need the little, little, uh, little kick, a little, uh, you know, little kick from Ron Stevens, little sugar from Ron Stevens, you know, sugar.

You know, you know, but you, you should have seen how he's, how he's pointing out, he's like, he's, he's worried about his eyes. I go, Ron, your eyes look good. You're considering how old he is. You know, you know, the eyes are the windows to the soul.

Well, if you don't have a soul, you don't have any eyes. Now, I'm not talking about Ron, just about other people.

But, wow. Rob, I didn't say that, by the way.

I'm not saying Ron had, doesn't that was all he does?

Do I found a tape from 1987? Another one?

No, this is the same one where I was really mean to Ron on the air. I almost don't want to give it back to him. So I'm going to be going through my stuff to give back to people I've had for many a years. I think I have some stuff of yours.

I think I have a Gary Shanling show or something.

I remember you back then. That's the times when you would do mean things and then you'd like to sign something says, remember, be yourself.

That was, that was way before that, Steve. That was, that was a different time in my life. I didn't yours.

Well, we were junior high school. Rob Robin is gang of thugs.

Thugs. I all, I'm all friendly with now. You know, I'm all the other pals of yours.

Yeah. You talk now with them. They, they, they were tortured me at that stage.

That's not true. But I was right up there with the other people you've tortured. There's a, no, no, no,

the rogues gallery of the, the rogues gallery is different, man. You weren't even close to that part of the.

So, you want to why? Cause you weren't on the bus. So went, thank God, go on the bus. I'd say yes.

Yes. You, you, you, you, you got enough, you got enough, the jabs in it, the rogues gallery.

I'm getting that into a shirt for the boys. Seriously, Dick Tracy would be after all of you.

So, but, you know, uh, um, but yeah. So graduation came for junior high school and Rob insisted on signing my book.

And then I decided to take it from them because I didn't know.

And so somewhere I have this junior high school yearbook and it, it's only partly written because I took it away.

It's pulling away from you. It says, uh, Steve, be yourself.

Well, it didn't say that. It said it in high school. I'm getting, Rob goes, I'm going to write what I was going to write to you in eighth grade.

Really? Yes. And you wrote, Steve. Remember, be yourself.

Really? It sounded, it sounded junior high school. No, that was not really. I believe I forgot about that.

I don't know. I don't remember. I had a lot of bad, I had a lot of bad experiences in eighth grade.

A lot of people wrote bad things. Mean girls.

Oh, yeah. A lot of mean girls. The original originators are from that class.

There were some real and they had, oh, they haven't changed really. That's the sad part.

You know, you think you get older, you get nicer with these people now.

By the way, an old book I've been started to read. What's that?

John Winner, someone wrote a biography. Well, actually, Winner chose this writer to write to his autobiography.

Right. He didn't take like a credit like John Winner with. He just gave it to the guy, which was nice.

Right. Right.

And we'll say it was so far so good. I mean, I read another book about Rolling Stone. I've got to wrote it.

The only reason I bought it was on the first one was on the discount book table.

But there was a great quote for a dress Thompson on it who used to write for Rolling Stone.

I was dead, of course, but I saw the quote. I said, well, Hunter is saying this.

He might know something that other people don't know.

So I bought it for three bucks. It was actually a very good book.

And, you know, he was a star.

You know, I remember that star.

There was a Rolling Stone song called, I don't know if it was about here, but there was a song called Star.

Let's just clean it up and think of a monkey song called Maybe Star Collect.

Yes, that might be better.

So, you know, it's, you know, he got really lucky.

First of all, his wife's family put up the money for the magazine.

Right.

And there were several times that almost went out of business because that's what happens to magazines.

And we even the magazine George with JFK Jr. running it.

Which was an interesting magazine.

I know.

But unfortunately, yeah, I know I still have the Howard start one.

Yeah.

Remember how, remember when, when for a year, you know, he destroyed him.

Yeah.

And then he, JFK Jr. comes on Howard show.

Right.

And, you know, because he won him on the cover.

Yeah.

Remember, he wrote, he wrote in the book, when, when JFK, Jackie Onassis died in the morning,

JFK Jr. is out roller skating before the funeral.

And Howard was really angry about this.

And he wrote it in his book.

And there's a picture of him.

Right.

So what?

Who knows?

Today's Howard would be, I don't see anything wrong with that.

You know what?

You know what?

If it's to, you know, to help you from, you know, grieving.

I mean, well, you're talking about JFK Jr.

I was talking about Howard.

You know, I agree.

I know.

Yeah.

I asked my mom, I said, would you mind if I did that, you know, before you're...

He stated for me.

She was not a man.

Oh, get your skates.

Yeah.

When was it?

90s.

You know, he might not, he, he maybe shouldn't have driven.

I mean, flew to Hianna's port for the wedding.

That, that was like, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't all, you know, he wasn't the pilot.

He was, everyone thought he was at that point yet.

They just do one thing that just is really bad.

Well, he wouldn't, he wouldn't live.

I mean, he driven.

He's, you know, New York City to Hianna's port's like five and a half hours.

Yep.

And it was not a great night to fly.

But, you know.

But back to the young S. Warner.

Warner.

Winner.

Whatever.

I just have one question from him.

What the what with the monkeys?

Why are you so anti-monkey?

I don't know, because when he was still at Rolling Stone, about 2012, 20, I guess 2012 when

Davey died.

Yeah.

They, they covered the monkeys really well.

They did a great interview with Mike Nesmith.

They did one with, with Mickey.

They gave a great review to good times.

Right.

They, they did a lot of things that you, they, they normally wouldn't do.

You know, and why isn't the, them, why aren't they, um,

you know, why aren't they on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

I don't know if against, no offense against, you know, some of the people who are in there.

But Madonna doesn't belong in there.

Neither does.

Well, you know, the big reason is always because they never played their own instruments.

Well, they did.

They did.

And guess what?

None of the, how many of the Motown acts that are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame played

their own instruments.

They sang, you know, they, they were great singers.

And you're going to tell me that Mickey Dolans is not a great singer.

I think alone his voice is one of the great voices of that decade.

I do too.

It really, it really is.

It is up there.

And the thing that bothers me is, is that they're never going to go back to all those bands

they skipped over from the 60s.

That, that includes the monkeys, but there's other bands too.

I mean, right now, I mean, when it comes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, you know, for me,

that ship is sailed.

I, I, I look at the nominees and say, oh, God.

Oh, I mean, they should, there's people there who, you know, who's at this year?

Is it Mariah Carey?

Oh, my goodness.

I like Mariah Carey, but she's never had a, she's had one rock song in her life.

And honestly, she did, um, she did deaf leopard.

Let me say this right now.

You know what?

If they're going with the thing attitude is being something, you know, if you want to put

if you want to put Frank's, look, I'm willing to put Frank's not during the Rock and Roll

Hall of Fame because that attitude was taken from every major rock star from Elvis to Jim

Morrison to Mick Jagger.

That was, you know, I could understand that Mariah Carey is so unrock and roll.

Yeah.

It is ridiculous, but she did do a nice cover of deaf leopard.

She did.

What was the song, uh, that photograph, um, not pour some sugar on me.

It was, um, you know, she's from Long Island.

That's, you know, that's why she's, you know, deaf leopard girl.

Because literally everyone deaf, everyone in Long Island loves deaf leopard and zebra and

Billy Joel.

You know, how about, I forgot already, but go ahead.

Okay.

So, but, you know, there's other people just pink belong in there.

Oh, maybe I don't know.

There's more rock and roll than Mariah is.

Well, that's true.

But my, my problem is they also do it once a year and maybe they should do a second one.

Maybe they don't have to have two ceremonies, but have two placements, you know, like what

I would like to see is like in the regular Hall of Fame, baseball Hall of Fame, you know,

the veterans get to vote in, you know, instead of having.

Just let everybody vote and then just give the ballots to Jan S Werner.

I'm not sure if Jan is part of it anymore.

He's been, he's been removed.

Remember he said he had the inappropriate comments.

But you know what?

I still remember that Steve, because I was here and the article came out at midnight and

I read it at 1202.

It was on Yahoo.

And I'm reading this article and I'm like, the guy who's writing it wrote for the rolling

stone at one point.

And in the book, there's only six people that have given him interviews that he thought

were good.

And it was supposed to be part one.

It's going to be part two and three and four.

Right.

So it was like Townsend, Jagger, John Lennon.

I've got the other three, but he, the guy goes to, well, why aren't there, you know, other

people, you know, R&B people, women.

And he goes, well, they didn't, he answered very innocently, but it turned out to be totally

misinterpreted by everyone else because, you know, Joni Mitchell is not a good interview.

Have you ever seen an interview with Joni, read it into with Joni Mitchell?

He was.

Joni Mitchell is so full of herself, it's scary.

You know, and I like Joni Mitchell.

You know, he mentioned the sense of why not Marvin Gaye.

And Marvin Gaye had a lot, he wasn't a very good interview either.

Now, maybe in the second book, he would have included them, but I don't even know if if

Jon had interviewed him.

These are people that Jon had personally interviewed.

Right.

So I don't know.

I just, I felt bad for him.

And I shouldn't feel bad for him because he's kept the monkeys out of the whole of fame.

But I was just, you know, I was a little sad by it.

Let's put that way.

Yeah, it is.

I just, you know, but, you know, he's a little wacky.

Yeah, I like to have him on my show.

You know, he did something to Jon that Jon didn't talk to him for a long time.

And it was after Jon was murdered that Yoko and Jon made up.

And Yoko and him, you know, anytime Yoko breathed, it was in Rolling Stone.

But when they put it, when they published Lenin, uh, remembers.

Yeah.

Jon didn't want that published as a book.

He says, I don't mind being a, you know, too parter.

I don't want as a book.

And, uh, he didn't talk to him for a long time.

I just, you know, uh, he didn't talk to Rolling Stone.

But he didn't, he didn't talk to Jan for a while because Pete Hamill did an interview with him, 75.

Right.

Jonathan Kot did 180.

Right.

Right.

All the greats.

All the greats.

So we go back into Pete Hamill, who went out with Jackie O.

Goes back to the Kennedy's every time.

I have his audiobook and I started to listen to it.

Man, that voice.

He just had a good voice.

He had a good voice.

And they had a lot of Brooklyn in it too.

And he was just a great storyteller, great writer, great storyteller.

And he said, one of the funniest things I ever heard.

And if you guys are, you know, know the history of television and news and whatever,

there was a show called A Current Affair.

I used to work on it.

I know.

And there was one time I believe they told a story about Steve Dunlavy.

This was before Current Affair.

Those was the snowstorm of 78.

Oh, God.

And Steve Dunlavy was drunk at Elaine's, which didn't matter if it snowed or not.

You would have been drunk at Elaine's with, uh, with a female companion.

Right.

And they were out in a snow bank.

And, uh, his foot was run over by one of the machines that snow plows or whatever, whatever.

And they took him to the hospital.

He was working for the post and Pete Hamill was the editor at the post.

And they run back to this newspaper and they say, they tell Pete they said, don't leave.

He's just, you know, just got his, just was run over.

He has foot run over by his, by a snow plow or whatever.

And he goes, I hope it's not his riding foot.

Well, you know, there's, there's, this should do a book on Dunlavy if someone hasn't.

But by the way, how we rose retire this year.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

Well, I mean, it was eventually going to happen.

I mean, obviously he was really winding down, but I guess still shocking.

Yes, it is.

Still shocking, man.

Maybe we're going to start the show.

By the way, tonight, we have it into Mark Lewison.

Oh, wow.

Let's talk about his new movie, Evolver 62.

I'll be on a little bit after nine o'clock.

Okay.

He listening to 90.3 WHPC, the voice of Nassau Community College.

My name is Rob Leonard.

I'll show you listening to his Beatles songs.

Give us a call or a text, 516-572-740.

I know it's true.

It's all because of you.

And if I make it through, it's all because.

I know it's all because of you.

And I'm then.

If we must start again,

we will love our show tonight.

We love you.

Now I'm then.

I miss you.

Oh, now I'm then.

I want you to be there for me.

Always to return to me.

I know it's true.

It's all because of you.

And if you go away, I know you're there.

Stay.

Now I'm then.

I miss you.

Oh, now I'm then.

I want you to be there for me.

Oh, now I'm then.

Oh, now I'm then.

I know it's true.

It's all because of you.

And if I make it through, it's all because.

Oh, now I'm then.

I want you to be there for me.

I want you to be there for me.

I want you to be there for me.

I pretend that I'm missing the lips I'm missing.

And hope that my dreams will come true.

And then while I'm away, I'm right home every day.

And I'll send all my love into you.

All my love into you, I will send to you.

All my love into you.

Close your eyes and I'll kiss you tomorrow.

I'll miss you.

Remember I'll always be true.

And then while I'm away, I'm right home every day.

And I'll send all my love into you.

All my love into you, I will send to you.

All my love into you, I will send to you.

All my love into you, I will send to you.

When I see you, I just don't know what to say.

I like to be with you every other day.

So if you want me, just like I need you, you know what to do.

I want you walking behind your looked alone.

I hope that you won't mind if you walk back home.

Or if you want me, just like I need you, you know what to do.

Just call on me when you're lonely.

I'll keep my love for you only.

I'll call on you if I'm lonely too.

On the sign I'll stay with you every day.

So if you want me, just like I want you, you know what to do.

Just call on me when you're lonely.

I'll keep my love for you only.

I'll call on you if I'm lonely too.

On the sign I'll stay with you every day.

And make you lonely more in every way.

So if you want me, just like I need you, you know what to do.

They truly lost song when it ended up on anthology one.

It had never been bootlegged.

And no one really knew anything about it.

And then that's up on anthology one.

Very basic.

They never recorded it properly.

At least we never heard it.

But at least it was recorded then as a demo.

You know what to do right here at 90.3 WHPC before that all my loving.

And we began our show with now and then.

Give us a call or a text 516-572-744-0.

We would love to hear from you on this wonderful cold but wonderful Friday,

the 20th of March, 2026.

Today is the first day of spring technically.

It's a little cold for spring but we'll take it.

We'll take it because there's no more snow.

That's not actually true.

It can snow in the spring.

What am I talking about?

It has snow in the spring.

But let's hope it doesn't.

What a kiss could be.

This could only happen to me.

Can't you see?

Can't you see?

That when I tell you that I love you.

Oh, you're gonna say you love me too.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

Oh, you're gonna say you love me too.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine.

It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see?

But when I tell you that I love you, oh, you're gonna say you love me too.

Oh, and when I ask you to be mine, you're gonna say you love me too.

You love me too.

You love me too.

You love me too.

It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see?

It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see, can't you see?

They used to stand with you in late times, and you knew your walk, and you knew your turn.

Oh, you're my darling, you were small, but you don't know me, you were bound with the storm.

Oh, oh, hey, still left, still left, still left, still left.

It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see, can't you see?

It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see?

It's gonna only happen to me, can't you see, can't you see?

Will your mouth be scorched?

I just pray your life

But you can't even hold straight

If you're in the town

We're into your heart

But you're my little girl

You leave me a smile

Back in the alley again

You're still in my eyes

You're still in my head

You're still in my head

You're still in my head

I'm not right right now

I'm not right right now

I'm not right

You're still in my head

You're still in my head

You're still in my head

Who's it about?

You ever go to 1700 Broadway?

Abco Records I believe is still there

Though Alan Klein is not

When Klein died a while ago

He had a dementia I think of the end

I don't know who he screwed over

That's the weird part

But Abco Records is still a record label

And get this, they're still in business

They own the stone stuff up to 71

No, they're not screwing anyone over

I don't think so

As a matter of fact, the stones

The first and only time they've combined

Up to 71 stuff with the post 71 stuff

So obviously there has to be some sort of dealing

And Jody Klein is now running the company

Jody is Alan and Betty's son

But they're still in business

You know, a lot of record companies aren't anymore

They are 516-572-7400

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In about 25 minutes or so

We're going to have Mark Lewisen with us

To talk about his movie called Evolver 62

So it's a good interview

This next thing says coming up 12 inches

Now someone put this into the archive we have here

I don't think I have this in my collection

I don't remember seeing it

But maybe it was really...

This one I don't know about

But it says, and it's 6 minutes and 37 seconds

So let's hear what this sounds like

And see what happens

Right here at 90.3 WHPC

Beatles songs

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

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Like a flower

Coming up

I'll say

You want a friend

You can rely on

One who will never fade away

And if you're searching for an answer

Stick around

I say

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Like a flower

Coming up

Hey

Hey

Hey

Hey

You want some peace

And I'm gonna stay

So everybody can't be free

I don't know where I think you can get together

You can make it

Feel free to be

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Like a flower

Coming up

For you and me

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

Coming up

I say

Coming up

Coming up

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Being in my point

My boy

You

Won't love

One that will never fade away

I will help you

With your brother

Take around

I say

Come in on

Come in on

Come in on

I can fly away

Come in on

I'll say

You want some peace

And I'm gonna stay

So everybody can't be free

I know where we can get together

We can make it

Feel free to

Come in on

Come in on

Come in

Come in on

Love your flower

Come in on

For you and me

I say

You want some peace

And I'm gonna stay

So everybody can't be free

I know where we can get together

We can make it

Feel free to

Come in on

Come in on

Come in on

Come in on

I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much more than

I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much more than

I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much more than

I don't think I can wait, like I'm supposed to do, I still can't wear a ring to form a

little drug option, we need to find a place where we can be alone, to spend some special

time without a introversion, if you come on to me, will I come on to you, if you

come on to me, will I come on to you?

Before you grab your coat, I'll try to be discreet, you know we can't be seen in exchanging

information, I saw you flash a smile, that seemed to me to say, you wanted so much

more than casual conversation, if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you

come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, will I come on to you, if

you come on to me, will I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you,

if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you,

if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you,

if you come on to me, then I come on to you, if you come on to me, then I come on to you,

90.3 WHPC from each of station, come on to me, Paul McCartney, and before that, coming up,

the 12 inch version, and stealing glass from walls and bridges, that should be, we don't know when,

but that should be, if you go in chronological order, which they actually haven't done in chronological

order, would be the next box set of walls and bridges, and there's a lot to go through there,

if you want to have some real fun, you put out the quadmix, there are two different rehearsals,

and then my favorite part, if they would do this, I'm not sure if Sean would do this,

there were really some good interviews during that time, Dennis Celsius had a great interview,

Tom Donnie, you had a great interview, plus there's always little things that John called into

certain radio stations, and they basically were like 10 minutes long, and then of course,

KHJ with John was the DJ for the morning, and that was one of the lines, some guy called up and

said, hey, when the Beatles get back together in John goes, when you go back to high school,

which is a great meme, but nice line from John. So we'll see what happens next, there's not a lot

to play with with John's catalog, because he was murdered in 1980, but I like what they've been

doing so far, you know, Sean, these box sets have been really good, and I'm very happy with him,

I know some people aren't sure, there's always complaints, oh, why wasn't this included?

Well, maybe he'll be on the next version, not everything's been put out,

you know, so that's the good thing, of course, that's why bootlegs are made, you know,

you can go look around, they're easy to find really, it's so say, I remember as a kid,

getting a bootleg meant riding away to this business in North Carolina,

or you go into the certain record store on the South Shore in Suffolk County, I won't say where it is,

because they're still around, and there are other places too, you can walk in and you just

know if they sold them or not, you don't say, hey, do you sell bootlegs? You don't say that,

but you walk in, you knew what was being sold and what wasn't being sold, and of course,

in the city, it was like giving away gum in the city, so we'll have to wait for walls and bridges,

I don't know, I'm thinking like next year, maybe, you know, maybe, maybe not, maybe it's longer,

who knows, who knows, one to one concert, the film, it wasn't, it wasn't all the concert,

but it's about the time, more than anything, I saw it last year, I thought it was very good movie,

actually, about what was going on during that time, and what's going on with John and Yoko,

and the anti-war movement, and there was this one scene that just blew me away, it was

this George Wallace rally, and people are holding up, you know, Confederate flags, and I'm like,

geez, what George is saying is being said by certain people today, I was shocked, sometimes

you have to be reminded, you know, 516572-7400, that's the number call if you'd like to hear a certain

song or whatever you want, we'll be talking to Mark Lewis in about about 10 minutes or so,

and you know, what you're going to talk about, at least talk about his movie, Evolver 62,

which is available online also by DVD if you're interested in that, some people won't buy DVDs anymore,

some people will not, you know, do anything but buy DVDs, I guess it depends on what you want to

support, is George Harrison, from all things must pass, you got to love the strum,

12 string, 6 string, 2 string, whatever, is my sweet Lord, I really want to know you,

hey, that's the truth,

I really want to feel you, I really want to see Lord, but it takes so long, I love,

my sweet Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, I really want to know you,

I really want to go with you, I really want to show you Lord, but it won't take long,

I really want to know you, I really want to know you, I really want to see you,

I really want to see you, I really want to see Lord,

I really want to see Lord, but it takes so long, I love,

my sweet Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, I really want to know you,

I really want to go with you, I really want to show you Lord, but it takes so long,

I love, my sweet Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord, my Lord,

I really want to know you, I really want to know you, I really want to know you,

I really want to see you, I really want to be, I really want to see Lord,

but it takes so long, I love, my sweet Lord, my Lord,

I really want to know you, I really want to see Lord,

I really want to go with you, I really want to see Lord,

I need to live without you

To live with you

To live with you

I wish for a sweet love

To the stars, just with all my love

And now I'm my love

To the stars, just with all my love

To the stars, just with all my love

To the stars, just with all my love

To the stars, just with all my love

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WPPC, Beetle Songs on the Friday night, my name is Rob Leonard, and on the Zoom meeting with us is Mark Lewiston,

a well-known Beetle author, historian, and all around nice guy.

He is calling in because he has a new movie out.

It's called Evolver 62.

We'll ask him how he got that title.

But Mark, welcome back to Beetle Songs. How are you doing?

could to be here Rob nice thanks for having me back and thank you for coming on I know

you've been doing a lot of press for the movie it's a fun movie it I'll get to it a couple

of minutes but there's a couple of things that reminded me of when I was watching it but

let's get the the big elephant that everyone wants to know about what's going on with the book I'm

not going to ask anything more except for right now you mean the second volume of the trilogy that

I'm writing the follow up to tune in yes yes and I'm not even asking if the third one but just

the second one of course yeah yeah one thing at a time while I'm writing it I'm working on it

all the time I mean the occasional interview to promote the film but basically I'm on it the

whole time and it's coming together but but much more slowly than I would have hoped and I think

a lot of the people out there listening to this would have hoped as well the good news is that

it's coming together but the bad news is I don't know when it's going to be finished it's a it's a

much much bigger project than I anticipated and it's monopolising my life in a way that I didn't

quite anticipate when I started it do you wish you like you said well I wish I could have read

about Jerry and the pacemakers no it would have been a lot easier there wouldn't be there'd be

a fraction of the material as well as a fraction of the interest mind you I mean it's it's very

gratifying to to know that so many people are waiting for this book and obviously it's also

gratifying to know that the subject I'm writing about is not going anywhere or not even diminishing

really the Beatles are still huge and still very popular in so many ways but on the other hand

the consequence of doing research for so much for so long is I have a lot of material and the

the very act of condensing it down into a written and easily readable book he's actually proving

quite tough now my first question is Evalver 62 this is a movie based on this program that you did

first of all how did the program come about and why did it come about and second of all how

did the movie come about based on the program well the first thing is you call it a program I mean

it was actually a theater show okay not really a history lecture but just a kind of an entertaining

romp through the Beatles history in the year of 1962 which was the the eve of the Beatles break

three year I mean in America it all happened in 64 but in the UK it all happened in 63 that led

to the breakthrough in America and so 62 is the eve of that 62 is the last year

when they can move around relatively freely because outside of Liverpool no one really yet knows who

they are and they're building everything towards the breakthrough so the breakthrough well it happens

in 62 but it really happens number one wise in 1963 and it's a period covered by my book

it's a lot happens in the year 1962 I mean they they basically have George as Brian Epstein

managing them they get together with George Martin to be their music producer they sign a record

contract they get rid of Pete and take on Ringo they get on radio and television they have

their pictures taken the fan club events is really all starting to build so basically in the year

of 2022 I realized it was 60 years since then and I decided to use the research that I had

gathered for my writing in a different way because most of the most of the research was just

for my own benefit I used it to know what I was writing about but then I stopped the information

away in a filing cabinet for this program for this theater show I got it out of the filing

cabinet and showed it to audiences told them the stories that these and that these pieces of paper

and pictures and posters and recordings actually demonstrated and the audience is really enjoyed

it I did three shows in London they went down really well and I had them filmed for no particular

purpose at that time but I just felt that it would be sensible to film them and then later on

we'd do something with it perhaps rather than think afterwards I wish I'd filmed those I

you know I can't do it again but I should have filmed them so it was just a sensible thing to do

to film them and three and a half years later and we can now look at it now as a presenter as an

author you know those two things are different but it's about the same information do you wish

you'd done the films you know do you think you could have done them let's say you did the films

just as the films you didn't write it but you have all this information so if you were to do one

year for one film for each year how would the presentation be different obviously you want the truth

and all that but what I'm talking about is there was when I saw the movie I was I was very impressed

with the relaxation of the whole thing it was very relaxing when you're going to the different places

and so I was just wondering the writing and then this could you have done this you know each year

you know 62 63 because I remember various show that was a done at the mammoth event a couple of

years or four or a few years ago now where you did 1969 and I assume that was a similar type of

thing but yeah instead you went for the do one for 62 and the movie and everything else

it was what you saw was my presentation at the White Album Symposium in New Jersey in 2018

and that was all about the year of the 1968 and the White Albums place within it the the chronology

of the of the Beatles that year including the recording the the composing and recording of those

songs how that whole project spans six months of their life basically and that was the first one I

ever did like this but I mean and then I did Hornsey Road in 19 in 2019 that was a UK theatre tour

of me taking a show on the road about how the Beatles recorded the Abbey Road album right in 1969

so I've now done a few of these this evolved 62 was my third such show and I could do them for every

year absolutely in fact will be a lot easier than writing because you have to use the material

selectively you can't just put it all in a show because the show would take days to present so it's

about cherry picking the best moments and knowing which things are going to entertain an audience

because you really want an audience to be fully engaged with what you're doing you don't want

an audience sitting they're looking at their watches wondering what time the interval is going to be

you've actually got a really put together a show that's got a pace to it and got

comedy in it ideally you want an audience is like to laugh and particularly they like to look at

things so you want to give them good content on a screen there can be copyright issues involved

so you can't just put everything up on a screen you don't necessarily own the rights to do that

in the theatre it was I was still observant of copyright but took one or two liberties on the

basis of fair use but when it came to this film we there were certain things that we just couldn't

include because we couldn't clear the rights so that's why we took the camera out into Liverpool

London and did some of the stories actually where they took place actually went to the places where

things happened yeah I like that a lot it it you know I've done the tour of London in Liverpool and

it was a nice it was a nice touch all you know the and you have the pictures and you have

you know you're telling what's going on at the same time and seemingly a lot of stuff is still

there not everything but obviously there's a lot of stuff that's still around that you know

was there 1962 yeah that's right I mean I don't like to go to the obvious places I like to do some

of the unobvious ones the the beauty is as I say a given audience something to look at so when

you watch the film you will see all the kind of documents and things that's supported by research

things I discovered there actually really no one's ever seen before and they tell a story and I

use them to tell the stories so you're not just hearing the story you're actually seeing it as well

and I like to do that an audience is really enjoy that I think the film is going down well for the

same reason same as it was in the theatre the people just thought you know this is there's a lot

to look at a lot to consider but I keep it moving and keep people amused as well so you once you've

got an audience there in front of you for three hours you can't bore them you've got to make sure

they leave having had a really good time and maybe learn a thing of three you know

absolutely yeah what it's it's the whole thing is a learning experience even for the biggest

people's fans in the audience because there's stuff there that they haven't seen or heard before

well that's what tune in was about there was a lot of things we never knew about officially

sometimes you hear rumors but you don't know what the rumors are about until someone actually

shows you that well here's here's the thing that said this this and this and this is what actually

what happened yeah and then this is why volume two of my trilogy is taking so long because it's

everything's got to be substantiated it's got to be it's got to be verifiable really or at least be

sound enough for me to use and it's so that I feel confident in it there's a people's story

ever end seriously I mean now and then coming out a few years ago you think that's maybe the end

but then they put out anthology for and you expect more box sets down the road I guess it does

if you're defining the ongoing aspects of it as the release of new material yeah well hopefully not

for a long time to come I think there's still plenty that could come out in one way or another

but for me it never ends because of not so much because of that but because of their their

impact on civilization and the human race and the human spirit I think they're still doing a lot

of good in this world I think they still have the ability to make people feel better about themselves

than they than they would do without playing that music it's still an uplifting experience the whole

bit of the story when you look at pictures of them or films of them is an uplifting experience

in a way that could never have been anticipated so in that respect I don't think the story will

ever end anyway do you think I wanted to I'm going to jump around I would speak and we'll talk

about re-releases and new music and what do you think of anthology 4 I haven't heard you talk

about that it was all right and I I was welcoming of the material I'd never heard before at least

hadn't heard in years you know the opportunity to hear I'm released takes or mixes of tracks is

always very welcome obviously there was some stuff on there that had been out before and that

caused some anxiety amongst the dedicated fan base who were disappointed with the release and I

followed all of that didn't really have much of an opinion on it myself I get less upset about

these things and other people do and also I'm a lot less bothered about what label things come out

on these days so I mean the fact that the fan community is is finding really great stuff that

isn't on the anthology right that's that's all perfectly valid as far as I'm concerned but

similarly whether or not it's got an official label on it it never really bothers me either it

just can come out in any which way if I get sent an MP3 file or a wire file or a flat file of

something new that I haven't heard before I'm just very happy and the anthology was a bunch of

that but there's also a bunch is coming in from other places that have me equally excited so I

wasn't that agitated about the fact that it was a bit disappointing and we've had a lot of

out of Abbey Road I mean I'm old enough to and my in a way my mentality is set by how it used to

be in the 70s and 80s when I was a teen and 20 something and looking to get something that was

beyond the standard catalog and we would get very excited about the the mix of of all my loving

that had the high-hat intro or the extended ending of it's all too much or whatever it might be

that you could pick up if you bought some foreign pressings there was the rareities album that came

out in 1980 from capital which had you know the the trumpet ending on Penny Lane for the first time

right remember that all those things were exciting so we didn't think then that we get much out

of the vaults at EMI that was really special and since then we've had four anthology albums and

we've had the Abbey Road box the LED B box the white album box pepper box and revolver box

we loads of outtakes we've had 5.1 mixes we've had all the separations you can get using AI and

other software the mouse software and we've had to get back films so I mean we've had huge

amounts of stuff and I'm not really going to start knocking them for the fact that some of those

tracks were repeated on the last album I'm not either I mean there are some people who don't buy the

box set you know of course of the costs or maybe they're not super into the Beatles away other people

are like you were me and people listening to this so to me it's like I don't mind that they

put out stuff that was in the box set because you know they sort of I don't want to say

condensed the best stuff but it's there and it's nice to have it on two discs and I can

institute on my car so yeah it's all of that I mean to me all these things are just

content now yeah I mean the the main reason I buy the box sets is for the books that come with them

yeah which I also get as PDFs but nonetheless it's quite nice to have a printed book but the discs

themselves I never even play because I'm content with the files and the files circulate quickly

so I'm not that bothered about I'm not a collector you see I used to be a collector but I gave

it up a long time ago I just want the content and how it comes is almost unimportant that's

that's a good point by the way how did you get a valver I know 62 because it's 1962

is it because a revolver or is it some other meaning for e-valver well when you create when

you've got any new product you've got to think of a title true and and that was it was true for

the Beatles in the 60s for all creative people ever no matter what it is a player book a film

a piece of art you've got to give it a name and I just thought at that time when I was when I came

up with it in 2022 I was planning to do a show every year each time being 60 years on so in 2023

I'd do a 63 show in 2024 I'd do a 64 show and so on all the way through to 2030 when I would do a

1970 show 60 years on and I just thought that because the the Beatles are always evolving that

Evolver was both a play on revolver but also just a thing about each year there's going to be an

evolution taking place off the Beatles so this is the 62 evolution and then I'll do 63 and so on

but what happened was I mean I do these shows I did these shows principally to earn some money

while I'm writing my books but I was finding that because I don't do things by half Berser these the

these these shows were taking too long to prepare they were digging too deeply into my diary

when I also have been writing so when it came to 2023 I tried to think of a way of doing a show that

would be good for the audience but at the same time not take me so long to prepare and that show

Evolver 63 was me sitting on stage with a celebrity known to be a Beatles scholar and aficionado

and looking at stuff with them there's also on a big screen for the audience and talking about

the Beatles with 1963 content on a screen and so giving people a conversation of celebrity

face to look at and very good content curated for them on the screen that was the right formula

in the sense of not taking very taking me away from my writing for long but still it took a little

bit too long so when it came to 2024 and Evolver 64 I just let it slide and didn't do it

since then I've continued to let it slide so my idea really only lasted for two years but the good

news for for people wanting the books is that I've not been distracted that's good and of course

here in America we would have liked to see you come over but I understand why you didn't

there was talk of me doing I think you've always 62 I think there was talk of me doing that in the

US but the reality is that it's very hard to get a show for a British guy to get a show together

in America you've got to find an agent who's going to book the theatres I know how to do it in

the UK because it's my territory but in America I'm less familiar with the kind of theatres that

exist I the first thing to do I've had a conversation with a New York agent and he did the classic

thing of seeming to be very interested in saying I'll bring you back next week and never got back to

which is the height of rudeness because just get back and say no don't just leave me hanging

sure there was also another angle of approach in 63 in 2023 where I tried very hard to get it flying

in America where I felt that that system of that idea I had of interviewing celebrities

about the strong beatless content on a screen for the audience to see I thought that would work

well in America and there'd be loads of celebrities Bruce Springsteen and Conan O'Brien and

Little Steven little Steven talks about how you know on on February 9th people were watching

the Beatles on Sullivan and then on February 10th everyone was starting a band

yeah exactly that and I'd go for Larry David and all sorts of interesting people who would have

a good thing to say about the Beatles and be intuitive in what they say but it was very hard

I'd ever got it off the ground okay and and also in the in the present circumstances it's

ever harder for a British person to get a work permit in America very hard to get the money out

of America because it's kind of the taxation thing is so tight so it's just too much bother

understandable um we're talking with Mark Lewison he is the of course the great

Beatles historian author he is currently promoting a new movie called Evolver 62 which is a fantastic

thing to watch you can watch it online streaming you could also buy it on DVD if you want to buy it

that way it it's very highly recommended by me and I think I've and everyone I know actually

I want to talk about some of the things that happened in 1962 some of them are in your movie and some

whom most of them aren't bar but I'm just there's a couple of things that the year if you think about

it there's so many things that could have tripped the Beatles up and didn't you know it's like okay

this is where a band normally would trip up and they didn't trip up and starting with the the

Decker that what we now call the Decker audition tape or the Decker audition they could have

been signed very easily by Decker and they never would have gotten George Martin they might not

have been treated the way George Martin treated the Beatles and and there's a good chance that they

might have had a couple of hits and you know Decker just doesn't know what to do with them and get

that's very true um I'm I'm my strong suit is what happened I'm not so good on what ifs what if

such and such and thing had happened then what would have happened well we don't know because it

never happened that's true um but I do do a thing in the stage show I mean not everything that was

in the stage show is in the film and I think one of the items in the stage show that isn't in the

film is me looking at what would have happened if the Beatles are signed to Decker and the the

example I use is because Decker didn't sign the Beatles they signed another group in state called

Brian Poole and the tremolo's tremolo's I think went on to have a few hits in America the end of

the 60s the silence was golden that was them well the four seasons did that originally yeah they

did it but they yeah tremolo's also if that's right they did and they they had to hit in Britain

silence is golden and by then the tremolo's were a four piece group who sang their own songs but

at the beginning of the 60s they were an instrumental backing group behind a singer called Brian Poole

and they auditioned for Decker pretty much at the same time as the Beatles and the the A&R guy

Max Smith was told you can sign one of these and out of pool and the tremolo's or the Beatles he

chose pool and the tremolo's for various reasons a bit of that is in the film actually a little bit

but not all of it so we can look at the example of Brian Poole to see how actually what the

Beatles would have been treated like and the very first thing is that they were made they were forced

to do certain songs they didn't obviously weren't writing their own so they were given material

which they may well not have liked but they had no choice they would have had to have done they

did do what they were told to do their name was misspelled on the record label so they had to change

the name of the band and even change the painting the painted sign on their van and their business

cards and this stationary to reflect the miss spelling because that was how they became known

tremolo's with an E-E-L-O-E-S and they also were forced to do two albums of other people's hits

that came out in the UK and one in Canada basically medley's of the years hits by a group you've

never heard of so it's not that far fetched to think had the Beatles signed to Decker instead of

tremolo's they would have been given these jobs there was also they were given the job of

doing backing vocals on a novelty record by then more or less unknown but up and coming British

radio DJ called Jimmy Savile so they're on that record even though they're not credited

theoretically therefore the Beatles might have been given that job instead of the tremolo's

and Jimmy Savile is now absolutely percent a non-grata in the UK for vial acts of Peter Filia

yeah that have uncovered after his death a few years ago so it's as well the Beatles don't have

that on their CV as well so one reason or another it's just a very good thing that they didn't

signed to Decker they would not have had George Martin they would not have had the opportunity to

record their own songs it would have been totally different and there's every chance that they

would have just simply faded away yeah and then also if they'd if it's and I'm jumping a year but

if in America they had hidden off in in 63 on VJ you know they don't get the big push in 64 with

capital and VJ barely paid anyone they had no money yeah well I disagree with you on that but

I see where you're coming from there's actually more to that story I'm sure there is

that's in my next book well that's 1963 we look forward to it you one of the things I liked in the

movie is you actually show the tape of the first Beatles interview and it it looks so small and

I look at I'm like how the hell did this last all these years yeah so how how did you find

the tape it's from October 27th 1962 we played on October 28th I'm not mistaken right yeah yeah

so we got on Saturday night and played the following day so so how how do you find this

obviously it's part of your research but you mustn't jump up and down a little bit when you first

got it oh I did it's along it's 40 plus years ago now since I acquired that tape but I'm

it in the UK we didn't really have we didn't have local radio like you do in America I mean we got

it eventually and we have it now of course but certainly in the early 1960s we only had national

radio right Britain being summer smaller than the United States can have national things national

newspapers national radio and television but there was a thing called hospital radio

wasn't for every hospital but there will be a closed circuit broadcast system within

the building of a hospital that could only be heard by people who are lying in bed sick

as patients and there'll be a little radio set behind them and some awful pair of old what

used to be called headphones but you wouldn't recognize them as headphones now

there will be plugged into the wall and that would enable you to hear the hospital's own radio

station and it will comprise people requesting records for patients in other wards or in the same

ward so such and such a person in alphabet ward wishes to have a record played for their friend

who's in beta max ward you know whatever it might be so one of the shows the Beatles did in

october 1962 a guy came backstage with a tape recorder and a couple of lads from the local youth

club as well and interviewed the Beatles for broadcast on hospital radio and unless you were ill

in hospital and plugged into the war at that moment you would have missed it it basically got

heard by about five people but the man who made the recording kept the tape wow discovered in

a discovered its existence in the early 1980s trapped the man down it still had the tape

and he let me hear it and I made him an offer cash offer to buy it from him including the copyright

and he agreed he was late in life I think it was time to give it a new good home and I included a

recording of it as a disc inside my first book that came out of 40 years ago 1986 the Beatles

live which is that by the way is that something that could be I've been looking for I mean I've

been looking for an inexpensive copy let's put it because it's gotten so high if you go on eBay

have you thought of re-issuing that book I know there's some things that have come up since you

wrote it but the book itself has a lot of great stuff in it even with you know the stuff that's come

up since thank you and including the desk including the desk you know that's the other thing too

yeah no I haven't thought about it I haven't I it will be a distraction um and all the

information within it got folded into the Beatles complete Beatles Chronicle that comes out

years later which is I don't know if that's available either but it probably is easy to find

others that's one no I haven't I haven't really thought about that at all um but the nice thing was

for this film we went back to the place where it was recorded to the very room where it was recorded

which is a little side room off the main area in this place over the water from Liverpool

the other side of the river and went into the room and the director had brought along an old

1960s take machine take deck and I got out the little original spool of take from 1962 and

threaded it onto his deck thankfully I didn't mangle it right we played it in the room where it

had been recorded which was a lovely thing to do that that was a great little moment because you're

literally in the same spot where the picture is yeah the fact that it's all there it's just

pretty pretty incredible you know if you think about just historic wise and um oh yeah it is it turns

out to be the the Beatles first ever recorded interview and they they they're still quite unknown

to the introduce themselves one by one they say who they are and what they do in the group and

they give a little bit of their ported history and Paul volunteers he actually says without

even being asked John is the leader of the group is that is that something we should over look at

with intensity or is that just something that Paul would say in 1962 that maybe he wouldn't say

in 1964 and that you know that's the proof that John was the leader of the Beatles you know

you know how people get um or is it just just part of an interview with Paul

if you want to know who the leader of the Beatles was I mean it's it's it's really unimportant

it's to us as the general public um because they they they they had equal say and came across

equally and we received them equally as well but within the Beatles just within their those four

people their personalities there was a hierarchy uh and john and Paul volunteering that information

is un arguable but the important point is to consider that it doesn't make any difference to

anything right as far as we're concerned because certainly they were equal in the way they

presented themselves and and they and why isn't there not actually because john and Paul really

bossed that group right but but nonetheless um Paul felt the need to say it that was the point

yeah it's and the fact that they are the so it actually took a picture of it too it's just

it's such a great moment in capturing history that you don't know it's going to happen in 50 years

or 40 years or whatever and you know there's the guys do the interviews there's the Beatles

there's the microphone it's right in this room and then you go back to it in in the movie so

yeah you know it's a picture was taken I mean it's no and it survives yeah and you even said

you know that you know maybe five people heard it um it was only in the hospital do they have other

hospital radio stations like this and a great Britain or is it just a yes but they weren't they

weren't connected to one another oh okay so only people in that very hospital two hospitals actually

he would be connected to one another by cable uh would have heard it i mean a handful of people

and an uncountable number because it would no one would have realized who was listing and who

wasn't okay so and also this isn't connected to the BBC because I've heard some people say it's

oh that was part of the BBC whole network and the BBC took over everything and

um no the BBC didn't take over anything the BBC was granted a chart since a broadcast

to the nation didn't take things over oh yeah we don't we don't know that here in America you know

there's a lot of these understanding I mean I did a Beatles Fest interview a couple of years ago

and the guy said to me uh there was no pop music on BBC radio and I went yes there was

he said well but they didn't want to play any more than the small amount and I said no they couldn't

they want to allow to play more right and it's just obviously a great misconception but as

there is in the UK as well as not just in America sure well speaking of the BBC I was always

wondering the Beatles aren't signed when they do their first appearance on the BBC in March of

62 how do they get how do the BBC decide to put them on I mean if could have any band gone to

the BBC you know whether you played good or bad or whatever anybody could apply for an audition

um it wasn't the more amateur entertainment but provided that you could prove that you were in

somewhere professional entertainer or that you did this seriously um then the BBC under its

charter to the British people you would be feel obliged to give an audition it wasn't an audition

that was broadcast but it was just an everyday occurrence within the life of the BBC to be

receiving talent and auditioning them to establish whether or not they were good enough for broadcast

so that's it didn't matter that they didn't have a commercial recording contract

okay so that wasn't like part of the thing yeah what was important was that they were professional

that and that they could indicate where they've been playing and that their line up was settled

and they would come to the audition and they did audition and they passed that audition

um and the producer who heard took the audition said I will give you a slot on in a radio program

and there was a live show too wasn't a recording so it was a little different it was recorded

for broadcast but it was recorded as a live show with an audience so it went out the next day but it

was actually recorded the day before okay um one thing about the movie you show more stuff about

when Pete best was let go um you've always said that Pete wasn't close to the band the way he

maybe presented over the years and he's always presented that he was closer than maybe he was

there's one thing you show is uh I think it was from from June of like the end of June

62 it's like the beginning of the end of Pete it was like a form um the letter it's a letter

to Brian from his attorney right it's to me you know you always think with Pete that

it all happened in August but it was already in it was already in motion two months earlier

yes it was from June and the the desire to get rid of him and find another drummer was

had been in within John Paul and George for a very long time I mean really

since pretty much when they took him on in the first place but they'd not done anything about it

and they'd allow Pete to get settled they were happy that Pete took care of the chore of

making bookings for them of managing their diary if you like uh they didn't want to be bothered by

that they also let their equipment be stored at the best house so getting rid of him was a more

tangled thing than they would have wanted so they just didn't bother but when they got a manager

then it was they heard well he can get rid of him then we'll get you Brian you can manage us but

get rid of our drummer for us was basically how it was but Brian resisted it and said that changing

their personnel would not be a good idea when he's still trying to do so much for them in terms of

getting them on radio, getting them on television, getting them a recording contract

the the clincher was when they went down to EMI the first time

and George Martin let it be known that he would never use Pete best on a recording

that he would next time the Beatles came down to the recording studio he would have a what they

called a session drummer instead of Pete right and once the Beatles heard about this they thought

we don't want to have a session drummer every time we go in a studio there's someone there that

we've never met before someone who doesn't know our staff someone who may not like us maybe the

different wrong generation Londoners don't particularly like people from Liverpool either so you

know maybe with someone with animosity so if we're going to have this shovel every time we come

down why don't we just do what we should have done a long time ago and get rid of him so they

basically told Brian you got to get rid of him and Brian began the process in June that took two

months to actually happen yeah because I always you always think of you know like I said it all

happened in a couple of days but in the movie you see the actual views of paper yeah starts it off

so well that shows I mean it's a great example of how uncovering pieces of paper will reveal the truth

and this is a story that's been told very anecdotally the Beatles story

not all of which are accurate and not all of which should have been ever said because they're

just misleading but what you can't beat is a document that's got a date on it and it tells you

exactly what was happening at that moment and that's what that is all about I found the whole

slew of documents about Pete's dismissal they they did the the some other guy at the

cavern club only a few days after they got rid of Pete was was that coming from a different angle

was that going to happen no matter what whether if they got rid of Pete or not and maybe they don't

get rid of Pete in time was was was was the decision to do record in the cavern club um what was

that a little bit earlier the decision made and what Pete was still there or yes they know that

Pete was leaving you know it was all set up the the the the granada cameras with the

television cameras coming to the cavern a lunchtime on the 22nd August that is that incredible

clip that we have of the Beatles doing the some other guy phenomenal that we have such a thing

yeah the old film of the Beatles in the cavern it was known in advance that that would be happening

but it focused their minds on well we don't want out if we're going to change drummer let's make

sure we've got the new drummer before the TV cameras coming just otherwise it's that we've got

filmed with the wrong guy from Pete's point of view I mean being on television was a big thing

in those days as it turns out it wasn't broadcast for ages anyway but it's going to be broadcast

quite quickly and everyone in in much more so then than now the big ambition to be on television

and Pete was really really looking forward to being in that granada television film of the Beatles

in the cavern um and so one of the big disappointments to him beyond being fired by the Beatles was the

fact that he missed that he wouldn't be in that TV thing they were doing it was going to miss it

but from the from Brian Epstein and the other Beatles point of view it brought it into focus in

as much as let's make sure the new guys in before then right so they they they got rid of Pete on

the 16th they they they started with Ringo on the 18th and the Granada thing happened on the 22nd

and and by the way some of the guys still not released officially by Apple I mean I mean make

every act is to go online and see it on YouTube but yeah it's such a historic moment for the Beatles

and yeah and it's the only like you said the only footage from the the cavern yeah I don't

remember now why we didn't use it in anthology um but anyway there must have been a reason

it's all a long time ago um but again I'd go back to what I was saying really we've got it

whether Apple have released it or not is kind of irrelevant we've to me yeah it's obviously

because it's out there you know yeah exactly you know it's it's funny because you know you

mentioned getting stuff in the 80s and I still remember a group of guys and you know some of the

people driving into the city because we'd heard the sessions album had been released and it was at our

local not local but of the store in the village on eighth street yeah and we were all excited we

paid $25 for it was expensive and we're like wow we got the sessions album wow you know you know

so we had it yeah so you know it was great but you know other things have come across sense

and the quality is a lot better but at that time we didn't know no that was you know we didn't know

there's gonna be more let's put that way you take what you can when you can how you can I agree with

that with that to finish off I'm talking about the Beatles in the cavern ringo sorry Pete was there

it turns out that was something I discovered when writing the book that he was actually

there he didn't he was so much that he did not want to miss it that he went even though he wasn't

in the group anymore hoping to be on film in some way but he never was oh wow but it's because

he was there the someone in the audience a male voice shouted out we want Pete you hear that at

the end yes yes yes and he's prompted by the fact that his act Pete is actually standing there

wow well that is a that's the fun of reading your books and you're in seeing your movies is

you find out stuff like this which adds to the story yeah it does I have two more questions

I know you have to you know get back to do what you're doing I've recently been reading about

Roy Young yeah was there any chance was it true that he was maybe asked to be a member of the Beatles

he was a piano player he played in Hamburg he was with Tony Sheridan he you know had a good deal

going in Hamburg but he also played with the Beatles was there any chance he was going to become a member

you know they need a piano player you know fifth member was that just I don't think I mean

I mean Roy is now passed away but I met him before he died obviously and met him in Hamburg

fun enough at an event and I liked him I was a nice guy a gentle soul and with a really good pedigree

of playing on sessions and everything back to the beginning of rock and roll in the UK pre-beatals

late 50s stuff and he was on television they I mean he was a bit of a hero to the Beatles they'd

seen him on television and you know that meant a lot right he was at the Star Club the first time

the Beatles were there which was the spring of 62 was there their third trip to Hamburg

and he said in interviews that they asked him to join I don't think so I mean I've got no proof

that he's right or wrong but it doesn't fit it just doesn't it's hard to understand why

they would want a fifth player and a keyboard player at that I mean kid adding keyboards was very

problematic because you'd typically you couldn't really cart them around so you'd be reliant on

the venue that you play having one already there in working order it was a hassle and and the

Beatles wouldn't have wanted a hassle they also wouldn't have wanted something someone who wasn't

one of them in the sense of being a sharp young kid from Liverpool who had been to the art school

or or to the grammar school next door so maybe there maybe something was said about if they make

a record and they need keyboards would he come and play there might have been some kind of an

approach but not joining the band surely not okay that's it you see things like that in you

you know part of it's the internet of you see stuff it looks like it was well written you look

like it has a good source yeah so I'm just you know it's just something that you know could have

it bit I guess is yeah well in that case the source is one of the only source there is was

Roy Young himself telling that anecdote right and and that's where you need to start saying well

okay I hear what you're saying can can it be supported in any way is it is it plausible is is

there a document that actually backs this up in some way and there's nothing underneath that

at all just a claim by Roy right and it may be one of tens of thousands of examples of people

claiming things that actually can't be proven and and may not be true and then that is well I

learned that my additional question you know there's so much on the internet you can just type in

Beatles and you can get thousands of stories whether they're true or not as a researcher how

how do you not get bold over by like some stuff that looks really good and then he's like hold

you read one thing and then it's just totally crap and you know it's a whole lie and I know

you double check and I know you I know you have great research prowess but there's kind of

you some stuff that just says come on guys you know why they put some this crap out well I mean

there was always misinformation about the Beatles I mean it's been me going around everyone I

studied my first book there was plenty of it around that and that time that I was trying to

counter with the more accurate information but I mean who knew then about the internet and

social media and and all the things that we have these days in 2026 so it's much much much much much

much much much worse these days than it ever used to be so I just disregard all of it I just don't

pay any attention to it I go to primary sources always I don't want something second hand or

third hand that's unsupported it's it's no value to me I can't use it wouldn't use it wouldn't touch

it and but one of the advantages I have is I've been doing this such a long time that you kind of

get to know whether something smells right or not and a lot of things just don't smell right and

you just know well I couldn't really use that in all the faith because I don't believe in it myself

well there was a recent one where the the Beatles stopped their concert when I think it was in 1964

because a girl was crying too much and they they I don't know I just I'm watching this I go

who the hell is believing this crap and I and I get angry about it and I try not to respond

because then you get into that stupid fight well how do you know and you know well yeah I maybe

read a book or two you know right I can't win so he's better not to engage the disappointing

thing is that these things are so right now yeah and that they can't be rode back I mean the game

is lost in that in that sense but it makes it all the more important that books of authority where

the research is done very very carefully and thoroughly do still come out and not the only one who

does them but these books need to be done soon including my own to ensure that those who in the

future who do want to know exactly what happened and not all that internet rubbish and can go and

find it well there one more story that I did get off the internet and I was from a good source

and then involved when you when live at the BBC was being worked on and there was a story about

this girl whose father had recorded all the pop go the Beatles and yeah they were I guess it was a

word put out by the BBC were looking for stuff who has stuff and she had a real and they they

played it for you you were one of the people in the room at least and you said that's perfect

or something along those lines you that you you approved the the tape and I was wondering if you

remembered that time and because a lot a lot of it ended up being on the first live at the BBC

it was like 15 songs or something that came from her tape yeah that's right well what actually

happened there was that I used to write for in addition to my Beatles work I've also had a few

years when I wrote about radio and television um particularly the history of radio and television

and there is a weekly magazine in this country that's now been going for 104 years called radio

times it used to be the BBC's magazine that published the listings for BBC radio programs and

then television and ultimately all channels because the market became too regulated and it's still

going now after 104 years as a weekly magazine and I used to write for them which was a great privilege

and so I knew the editor and I was in the office in October 1992 when my book The Complete Beals

Chronicle came out and I had a copy with me and I knocked on the editor's door Sue Robinson and I

went in there and said I've just this is a new book of mine um here have a copy um perhaps hoping

she might include it in the magazine mention it but also just you know she was giving me work and I

wanted to give her a book and she said oh um girl I used to know a friend of mine in fact girl I

still know a friend of mine um recorded a lot of the Beatles BBC radio programs off air on quite

good recordings I think and I went oh and instantly my researchers is pricked and I just thought ah

should find out more about this I said I'm interested to know more will you please put me in touch

with her anyway she put me in touch with her and I ended up finding out exactly what this woman

had recorded um and got a list of everything she had got and the I was told these recordings were

made using a good quality tape debt at a recent I think seven and a half IPS tape and

she was one of the very few listeners in Britain in those days who listened on FM most people

listened on AM we didn't call it AM and FM in those days it was medium wave and VHF but nonetheless

AM and FM I didn't know that I didn't know that she had recorded them on FM when almost nobody

had the equipment to listen right um and so all these times she still had the tapes so I made an

inventory of them I wrote to my contact at EMI until I found someone who's got recordings of all

these tapes anyway long story cut short they got her into Abbey Road I was there we listened to all

the tapes EMI made her an offer for them and bought them so she was very happy she got a load of

money for these old tapes right and then they included them on the live at the BBC album so they

recorded seven and a half not one in seven eighths which quality wise would have been different

or three and three quarters which is the one in between I'm pretty sure they were seven and a half

I mean they were they were they were they were very good and she had about a dozen different shows I

think um so credible if you think about it I mean that's one of the great finds in the collecting

worlds um there's nothing yeah there's nothing you've been looking for that you haven't found yet

there would something that that popped up you would be real excited I mean this you know do you

I mean I obviously don't have everything because you can't have everything but is there a thing

that says okay I need to find that I need to find that you know um the only the the thing that

springs to my mostly is the the recording of a business meeting that were they held in December

sorry September 1969 on the ninth of September 1969 of a meeting discussing the next album

and and and how they get control of their business from that point in September 1969

a week later John said he wants to break the group up right or at least leave the group

but there's no hint of that in the meeting on September the 9th which is only a week

earlier and it was recorded because Ringo missed the meeting and they wanted him to hear what he

was missing so he stuck a cassette recorder on the table and while they talked for an hour they

were recorded and I've heard six minutes of that right um but I would long to hear the rest of it

yeah well that's uh a fun uh yeah something fun to hear I guess is the best way to uh one of the

I think I think it's potentially very important I mean in the six minutes that we have this

some sensational stuff that he said right right kind of changing the history as we know it so

and if you've out if you've seen yeah I don't know if you've seen man on the run but there's a clip

that's been floating around of John saying well maybe Paul was right about Alan Klein which is such

you know it's a it's a great line because John admits that maybe he was wrong which he didn't

always do and uh Paul gets vindicated so I see I just I think I mean April the twelfth 1973 I think

that is okay something 1973 was from a British TV program which I watched go out at the time

weekend world and thankfully it survives on videotape and in color too so um that's a very important

interview not just for that fragment that was used but for other bits the fact that John said it

it should be it looks like Paul is vindicated but there's no I'm not going to argue with that Paul

is vindicated but let's remember that John said there when he didn't need to say it you said that

John didn't always admit I think John always did admit I think he was always quite I mean he

volunteers the fact that um they were wrong and Paul it looks was right so he didn't have to say that

that part to you that's a good point that's a good point um so we must always keep in mind that

but but I mean Paul felt the others hadn't thanked him enough eventually um for putting the breaks

on our own client uh they thanked him in a kind of grudging way um that is so much more complex

than anybody knows including me yeah that and to make something about you know what's the reason

why the Beatles broke up no one over here says in the old days maybe not now but oh was your

close fault no was lindus fault no it was Paul being a jerk no was John being a strong out heroine

you know what a lot of it has to do with the choice of Alan Klein as the three of them's manager

and you know basically trying to do what he did to the stones um grab all the money and the rights

to the recordings I'm not sure about that you sure not really okay I'm not sure about that I mean

yeah it does come across that way one of them didn't want Alan Klein but three of them didn't want

John Eastman that's true that's true you know just always always suicides through every coin that

part I didn't mention that you're right the right about that Klein could not have got any control

of their recordings because they were assigned to ear my capital until 1976 uh and the ones that

had been recorded did not belong to the Beatles so they couldn't get the recordings off the Beatles

because they didn't they didn't have them to give him okay um similarly the publishing was in

other hands as well um no Klein came in because they needed him they needed someone to do what he

was doing which was to drastically prune back their spending uh and to try and give them greater

control over something that they'd allowed to get out of control uh and Klein came in with a clear

mandate from three of them and indeed four of them sometimes because Paul was quite often supportive

of what Klein was doing in that period of time spring 69 um it's much more nuanced than anybody

knows it really is much more nuanced I would say at the present time that the the biggest cause

of the Beatles breakup was Klein and Eastman not getting along that's a good point uh you know

because a lot of bands you know if you look at the like like the rolling stones now each member has

an old their own manager so to have you know Paul have his own manager and the other three

pick on Klein you know it's not something then that happened but today it does yeah I mean they knew

exactly what Klein was like um and uh they they felt that he couldn't make a grab for things that

they didn't own anyway yeah um but there was an attempt to get him to get them ownership of things

that that was bound to fail because they were in corporate hands um no it's it's always two sides

to every coin why didn't three of them won Johnny Smith that's true that that was part of it they

knew Johnny Smith first that's true that's true well Mark I want to thank you for joining me today

a Volvo 62 is out there you can stream it you can buy it uh where can they buy it Mark you have

on your website or what do you get it my website is so poor I don't think it even mentions the film

it can be bought on amazon prime if you want to stream it and apple and hulu and other streaming

sites like that uh possibly it may be through amazon.com that you can actually buy the blue rail

the DVD or the production companies Liverpool West Liverpool West so google google Liverpool West

and you will land on the page of the company that has made the the product and we should say

because you mentioned another time that the first interview from 62 is available on your website

and because I have a YouTube channel for oh YouTube YouTube channel

uh a YouTube channel that I don't update but it is still active and the complete tape is there

so you know don't take it from other sites go to mark sites so we can pay you get paid 0.0001

cent not pound but a cent at least at least you know you're supporting him you know so

it's a great movie I I'm glad you did it um like I said I I would like to see more of it

but I know you're writing so which one do you do first and I understand both

so right so I mean of the shows I've done this was going to be one of those films so I have no

sequel to come no sequel no maybe one day we'll see Lewis and strikes back I mean

yeah anyway thank you Mark and for those who don't know I'm looking into Mark's room where

he has everything it's his research room is that your only research room yeah there's a lot

stuff in there yeah there's a lot of stuff yeah there's a lot of stuff Mark thanks for joining us

and uh you want to you want to pick a song you know we always let our our guests pick a song so

you you have any songs you want to hear from 1962 we'll pick a 62 song and

you talk it up as if you were on the BBC oh wow well the BBC in those days would have been very very

very straight yeah be Brian Matthew yeah we've got um I walk out the song from 62 I don't know

please well actually please believe it's 63 so okay well um I think ask me why although

released in January 63 it was recorded in November the 26th it's the b-side of the blitz please me

single and it's a it's a great little song that was composed by principally by John in the spring of 62

I love you

because you tell me things I want to know and it's so

and it really only goes to show that I know that I

I know you'll never never never be blue now you're my happiness makes me cry

and in time yeah yeah yeah yeah you understand the reason why if I cry it's not because I swear

but you'll be only like I've ever had I can't believe it's happened to me I can't

can see of any more misery ask me why I say I love you and I'm always thinking of you

I love you because you tell me things I want to know

and it's true and it really only goes to show that I know that I

should never never never be blue ask me why I say I love you and I'm always thinking of you

I can't believe it's happened to me I can't can see of any more misery ask me why I say I love you

and I'm always thinking of you

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College it's 44 degrees my name is Rob Leonard this is Beatles songs give us a call 516572 7440

this is the official best radio station on long island now for five years in a row voted number

one in the four leaf best of long island awards again this is WHPC HD garden city available on

audacity thanks for listening

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

Find me that made into Paris

Only morning down by the same

Be the proud call to say

You can make it okay

You can get married and you probably will spend Christ

You know it and he's in

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

Find me that made into Paris

To the answer now

You can talk in and I'll bet for a week

When you said it, say what you're doing in bed

I said we'll only try to get us a piece of Christ

You know it and he's in

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

Find me that made into Paris

To the answer now

You can make it okay

You can get married and you probably will spend Christ

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

Be the proud call to say

You can get married and you probably will spend Christ

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

Find me that made into Paris

To the answer now

You can get married and you probably will spend Christ

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

Be the proud call to say

You can get married and you probably will spend Christ

You know how hard it can be

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

The way things are going

They're gonna cross their path

You say yes

I say no

You say stop

I say go go go

Oh no

You say goodbye

But I say hello

Hello hello

I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello

I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello

I say hi

You say no

You say why

I say I don't know

Oh no

You say goodbye

I say hello

Hello hello hello

I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello

Hello hello

I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello

Don't you say goodbye

Oh no

You say goodbye

I say hello

Hello

Hello hello

I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello

Hello hello

I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello

Do you say yes or say yes

I say hi

You say stop

Cause stop

Oh no, oh no

You say my, and I say my love

Now hello, I don't know why you say goodbye

I say hello, now hello

I don't know why you say my, say my love

You know, you know, you know why it's like a life I say, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

Hey la, hey la hey la, hey la, hey la hey la covers all the time

I always thought that that ending lay the groundwork for what would become the ending of

Hey Jude? I don't know if it's true? just something I've noticed over the years

of the years. You're listening to 90.3 WHPC. Beatles songs is on your radio or your listening

device, whether it's nccradio.org or tuning in or Odyssey or I heart. Of course, it could

be the WHPC app. I suggest everyone listening to this show or this radio station get the WHPC

app is a lot of good things on it. You can win tickets to shows. You can win other prizes. Plus,

it helps you. If you want, you can have a, you know, there's an alarm clock on it. So it wakes

up to WHPC. So if you have the old one, by the way, you have to get rid of the old one to get

the new one. I thought you can keep the old one because that's why I'm not a big app guy.

But when I was told I had to switch it over, I said, okay, I can do it. It's a very simple lap

in the sense it's we're not trying to suck every piece of information about your life,

you know, for no apparent reason. So just let you know. Before that, we heard what we hear. We heard

the ballad of John and Yoko today. If you go back to 1969, John and Yoko got married. And we heard

also ask me why and we just heard hello, good bye. All of them, by the way, in mono from the

mono box set or not the wrong phrase. The CD singles when they were put out with actual covers

this time because all the BBC, all the British stuff had no bad covers. They didn't have any covers.

They started to change that and they put out the British singles and almost all of them were in mono.

But at the time it was the only place to get them in mono. So and if you look at Beatles one,

technically those are singles and they should have put them out in mono, but they didn't.

Which I understand why. But technically that's all the singles were almost all of them were in mono.

So, but this was the only place to get them at the time. And I got them when I came back to

the radio show back in 1996, it was, you know, I had to get some stuff I didn't have. So I got the

EPs because they were in mono and I got the singles collection because they were in mono. And at the

time, it was tough to find anything in mono Beatles wise. So just part of the fun of being a fan and

a collector. Ken and Dale called in. I said, Rob, can you play since,

St. Patrick's Day was a few days ago. There's a couple of songs we can play. Here's one of them.

Here's, give Ireland back to the Irish. Ken and Dale and Hicksville right here are 90.3 WHPC.

Give us a call 516-572-744-0 or Texas, either one.

Give Ireland back to the Irish. Don't make them have to take it away.

Give Ireland back to the Irish. Make Ireland back to the Irish.

Give Ireland back to the Irish.

Give Ireland back to the Irish.

And all the people say that people must be free

Everyone, back it all up, there's a man who looks like me

And he dreams of God and country

And he's feeling real

And he's feeling real and bad

And he's sitting in a prison

Take should he lie down

Through my head

Cheeky head

Come on man

Get violent back to the Irish

Don't make them have to take it away

Get violent back to the Irish

Get violent back to the Irish

Don't make them have to take it away

Get violent back to the Irish

Don't make them have to take it away

Get violent back to the Irish

Okay, let's go

I want to see, want to see

If you have a look of the Irish

You'd be sorry and wish you were dead

You should have a look of the Irish

And you'd wish you were singlicious dead

Thousand years of torture and hunger

Drove the people away from their land

A land full of beauty and wonder

Was raped by the British bargains

God down, God down

If you could keep voices like flowers

There'd be some rock all over the world

If you could drink dreams like Irish strings

Then the world would be hires the mountain of gold

In the pool it told us the story

How the English divided the land

Of the pain and the death and the glory

And the poets of all that land

If we could make plays with the morning dew

The world would be like a way back

Let's walk over rainbows like every dawn

The world would be one big funny stone

Why the hell are the English there anyway?

As they kill with God on their side

Blame it all on the kids and the IRA

As the bastards commit genocide

I genocide

If you had a look of the Irish

You'd be sorry and wish you were dead

You should have a look of the Irish

Yes you'd wish you was English and Stan

Yes you'd wish you was English and Stan

90.3 WHPC looking at the whole Irish thing

From two separate views, John's view and Paul's view

His version was credit to Linda also

Not every song was Paul and Linda McCarty

Because it just said McCarty

So I'm not sure which ones are which

Nowadays it says which ones but I don't have anything in front of me

We'll go with that

Excuse me, look at the Irish

That is the remix from power to the people

Before the African and Dale out in Hicksville

In Mono for Saul out in Kenosha, Wisconsin

And the ballad of John and Yoko in Mono

For Kevin out in Neuro Shell

This next one's going out

To or from Steve in Brooklyn

To his friends Jack and Marie

And they're up in like the Lake George area

Or something

Where are they from?

Yeah Lake George right around there

Listening on the interweb

And this is also in Mono

Everything we've been playing so far is from either the CD box set

Or the EP box set

So here is there's a place from the twist and shout EP

Now this is a great cover

The EP's all had covers

The singles didn't

I'm sure that was a EMI thing

But I love the cover

You know, I'm jumping

What it looks like off a roof

Anyway, here's there's a place right here

At 90.3 WHPC

Beatles songs

And there's no time when I'm alone

I think of you

And things you do

Go round my head

The things you say

Like I love you

In my mind there's no sorrow

Don't you know that it's all

Maybe no sad tomorrow

Don't you know that it's all

There is a place

Where I can go

When I feel low

Where I feel blue

And it's my mind

And there's no time when I'm alone

There's a place

There's a place

There's a place

90.3 WHPC

I always like to say this

Here's new music from Ringo Star

It's been too long right here

On 90.3 WHPC

Music

When it's been too long

Since we've seen each other

Yeah, it's been too long

Since we listen to one another

It's been too long

Since we dream many dreams

It's been too long

Since we've floated downstream

Together

Together

It's been too long

It's been too long

Since we've smelled the ground

Lost right from the outside

Since we hid the earth's grain

Since we didn't do a thing

It's been too long yeah

It's been too long

Since we were off one mind

It's been too long

Since we've left it all behind

It's been too long

Since we've held on tight

It's been too long

Since we ramble through the night

Together

Together

It's been too long

Since we sang a sad refrain

It's been too long

Since we trusted what we made

Since we wrote it by the fear

It's been too long

It's been too long

It's been too long

It's been too long

Ringo's second album

with T-bone Burnett

That is new music from Ringo

from his fourth coming

It's called a country album

It would be wrong

It's too strummy

It's not as country as

like Boku of Blues

But maybe this is the country of today

And I just don't know it

I don't know

But it's a fun song

It's two and a half minutes

It has a lot of things that I like

The song is called

It's been too long

Right here at 90.3

W-H-P-C

That out in

Stony Brook

Is listening in

But he's down in

Florida

He's down in Orlando

At Comic Con

How many is Comic Con for everything?

No, it's not

But it's one of those

It's the B-L-Fest Reconic book fans

How's that for an answer?

He won here Magneto and Titania Man

And I said we can do that

Right here at 90.3 W-H-P-C

Well, I was talking last night

I need a entertaining app

We were talking about U-B

They said

You were smiling around the ring

That was due to happen at a quarter to three

In the main street

I didn't believe

I didn't believe

I need a entertaining app

But when the crimson dynamo finally assured me

Well, I knew

You were smiling around the ring

That was due to happen at a quarter to three

In the main street

So we went out

I needed a entertaining app

And the crimson dynamo came along for the ride

We went down with the library

And we swam all over the long road

Banking in the main street

Who was as she went around to my despair

She's a five-star criminal

Great enough to come

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Together all voices are wrong

It's can't be so

It occurred to me

There couldn't be bad

That night, always man

To turn into

A victim of alumma

We just couldn't earn a lot, you would love

We went to town with a library and we swung all over that long tall bank in Main Street

You know the one I mean?

Welcome!

Let's you find the spot

Jesus, why I'm starting to remember

Bring it up, come on

I need a set now the time has come

Together all voices run

Oh no, this can't be so

Let it go to me, you couldn't be bad

Matt made a wish man

To tie you to

We can't earn a lot, we just couldn't earn a lot, you would love

I blessed the day I found you

I want to stay around you

And so I beg you

Let me meet

Don't take this ever from me

If you must clean the sun warm

I went for it

They made me

It's time we meet love

I find complete love

Without your sweet love

One would like me

So never leave me lonely

Tell me you love me

And let you always

Let me meet

Each time we meet love

I find complete love

Without your sweet love

One would like me

So never leave me lonely

Tell me you love me only

Let you always

Let me meet

And let you always

Let me meet

Music

Don't write a little letter

Really true for a lonely day

I'm talking with a record

You brought my job into play

Hold up me, don't you

I hear it again

I hear it again

I hear all my temperatures rising

I chew the back from you

I hopped eating rhythm

And my soul is a sinking woman

Hold up me, don't you

Tell my cows to the moon

I've got all my pain and pneumonia

I need another rhythm or move

I think I've pulled it up the right

I think you're down and don't really do

Hold up me, don't you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

I'd like to meet you

That's like a spinning top

It's gotta be useful

I wanna see you paint the bottom

Like what you gotta do

Or you can never stop

One of the Beethoven

One of the Beethoven

One of the Beethoven

One of the Beethoven

One of the Beethoven

One of the Beethoven

One of the Beethoven

Live in Japan

There are Clapton's band that's George Harrison

Covering Chuck Berry

Roll over Beethoven

We send that out to Jackson listening out in Colorado Springs

Oh, whoops

I'd like to thank the Baron and Larry

for making me come here to Japan

It's been very nice

And I love you

Thank you

Like what he said, making me come to Japan

I mean, Eric just suggested it, you know

It's too bad Eric did make him come to the States

Because there was little whispers that George might do it

And then he realized I'd have to tour

I'd have to stay in hotels

Too bad, man

I was waiting for that

It would have been nice if George had come to the States

Because his voice would have sounded much better

It wipes away that

1974 tour voice thing that still hangs around

You know, if you ever read the

Ben Fong Torres

Review

It was called lumbering in the material world

Boy oh boy did

The Ben Fong Torres line up with knives

For that review

It was just, it was just a horrible review

Before that, let it be me

For Kevin had an Avon, Indiana

For Scotty out in Stony Brook, Magneto, Intentany, and Man

It's been too long

New music from Ringo Starr for Peter out in Tampa Bay

And for Steve out in Brooklyn to Jackson and

Marie out in Lake Grove

Yeah, Lake Grove

No, not Lake Grove

What town is it?

Lake George, Lake Grove is

At least we heard the model version of

There's a place

I want to thank everyone for checking in

Dave out in Rockland County

Tom and Joyce out in

Asbury Park, what Tom's river

Jerry and Chewley in

Belmore, San listening in

In Queens, Mitchell, in Siasit, Mike

Out in, let's see

In Michigan

Can read it for a second.

Jeremy, I'm not sure where Jeremy's from

He doesn't listed on Facebook

Dale, also I don't know where he's from

Ed and Saul

But that Saul's already been mentioned

And we thank everyone for checking in on that

There's lots of ways you can check in

You can check in 516572

740

And if you want

You can leave a text there

You can call me at that same number

Get there, that's pretty cool too

And you can do that

So there's lots of ways to do

And we thank Kathy out in West Babylon

And who else?

Mike listening out in Levittown

So I think we got everyone

I'm sure I missed someone, I'm sorry if I did

We try to get everyone's suggestion on

But we've been getting so many lately

That there have been weeks we haven't gotten to them all

And I apologize

It's a good thing that people want to hear us

Or if we've got Derek out in East Hills

But sometimes

It just gets too crowded on the

On the

Boat, so to speak

Anyway, coming up at 11 o'clock

The kickstart is coming up

So I hope you listen to that

With DJ Rocky Hollows

It does a good job doing a dance show

Not a bad thing

And what else is going on here?

Is there anything else we're missing here?

No, I think we got everyone

So we're running out of time

But thank you all for checking in

This one's going out to Linda

And Andrew and Beth Page

They wanted to hear

Maybe I'm amazed from the one hand clapping sessions

Now the music sounds great

If you ever saw the movie

It was shot on a three-quarter wrench

And whatever reason

Just didn't turn out very well

And three-quarter it

You know

It's more of an archiving tape than anything else

I remember seeing it in the theaters

It just was a mess

But the sound sounded okay

So here's maybe I'm amazed

One hand clapping session

Right here at 90.3

WHPC

Beetle sounds

Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time

Or maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you

Maybe I'm amazed at the way you move me all the time

Home me on a line

Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you

Maybe I'm a man

Maybe I'm a lonely man

Because it's a middle of something

That he doesn't need you on the stand

Maybe I'm a man you

Maybe you're the only woman who could have never helped me

Maybe would you help me to understand

It's on the head, that is really on the stand

Never made, maybe it's the only one I knew could ever help me

It's all that would you have been on the stand

Maybe I'm amazed at the way you're with me all the time

Maybe I'm afraid of the way I leave you

Maybe I'm amazed the way you're with me

It's in my soul, you write me what I'm wrong

Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you

Maybe I'm alive, maybe I'm a lonely man

You said to me that it's something that is really beyond the stand

Maybe I'm a lonely man, maybe it's the only one I knew could ever help me

Maybe it would you have been on the stand

Maybe I'm a lonely man

Maybe I'm a lonely man

Maybe I'm a lonely man, maybe I'm a lonely man

You said to me that it's something that is really beyond the stand

That is really on the stand

Maybe I'm a lonely man, maybe it's the only one I knew could ever help me

Maybe it would you have been on the stand

But I mean

Yeah, maybe I'm a Maze

Yeah, maybe I'm a Maze

Yeah, maybe I'm a Maze

I'm a Maze

90.3 WHPC from one hand clapping slightly different arrangement there. It seems like the ending

was a mistake. I think someone thought it was over and then they kicked into the ending,

which is why it ended on Wingsover America. But it was more rehearsal, this one hand clapping.

Test out the new drummer, new guitar player, see if they were going to tour. They didn't actually

worked out better. It toured in 75 Australia, coming to states in 76, finished up over in England.

Not a bad thing. And they got a movie out of it. They got a great three record set. Thank you

bootleggers who put it out. The Los Angeles form show is a three record set. It sort of made Paul

say, you know what, I better put out the whole show, which he did except for a couple of little

things. I just wish some talk was left in, which it wasn't some of the bootlegs if you can find it.

The talk is there and there's a lot more talk than you remember, though I didn't see the tour, but

from just, you know, from the movie and stuff like that. And we also want to thank MJ out of

Coral Springs Florida and Martin. I don't know what town Martin's from. Your WHPC weather forecast

powered by Pantano's gourmet with locations in Uleth and Uniondale. Well, tonight it's going to be

cloudy. A little bit of rain. The rain's going away by two o'clock in the morning. It'll be a

low of 45 tomorrow. It's going to be cloudy, mostly sunny, high about 55 and tomorrow night. It's

going to be cloudy. It's going to go down to about 43 currently outside the studios here at Nassau

Community College. It is 46 degrees. Not bad. My name is Rob Leonard. Thank you for finding this

show. We're here every Friday from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Remember in two weeks, we do our fundraiser show

for those who want to donate money to be a, a disc jockey with me, a co DJ co host. It's $150

this year, but it is a tax write off. And that's all it matters. Plus you get to come on the air.

You pick the song as you want to do. If you want to do a theme, you can. If you just want to hang

out and play music on the radio, you can do that too. Either way, it's, it's always a fun thing.

It's the most popular thing at this radio station for fundraising. And also want to thank everyone

who liked the Mark Lewis and interview. And I want to thank Mark for coming on the show.

If you go to, we'll be up online. I don't know when next week, by then, by next week or so.

If you go to the podcast I do with Mitchell Axelrod and Tony Chogrado, it's called The Fab for

Free For All. And we have an interview with Mark Lewis and on that because Mitch and I did

the interview first. And then I said to Mark, I have a few more questions going to have you on

on my show. And he said, of course. So that's what we did with my show and the interview for my show.

So, but there's a lot of different questions if you look at it. And if you want to listen to

any of the podcasts that Mitch, Tony and I have done, it's right there. Fab for free for all.

com. And you can just listen to any show you want. And don't forget our friend Doug in San Diego.

He has the Beatles radio show podcast or audio cast. It's at the best way to do it because my

brain doesn't remember it is to go to Google, type in Beatles radio shows. And the first thing

that's going to come up is Doug Sight, which is on redcircle.com. It'll say Beatles radio shows.

You click on that and you can listen to my show. We can listen to Chris Carter show Terry Hemmert

show, Joe Johnson show, plus podcasts and a whole bunch of other things. So it's a great show.

If you like Beatles radio. And we thank Doug for doing that because he loves Beatles. He loves

radio. And he does a great job every weekend. The show is up right away. So I gotta give him a lot of

credit. Anyway, thanks for listening. Take care. I'll see you Sunday with the free for all 10 AM.