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2:54Baby, this is Bob Langloss. Welcome back to Why Blank Loss. I'm David Bloomberg, and I am absolutely exhausted after an incredibly fun three days and nights of a hapcon plus driving back from Milwaukee. But it was all definitely worth it. And I feel bad because although we had a bunch of podcasts there, I could go who's well could not. No, I couldn't be there sadly, but I'm so happy that you're back. I cannot wait to hear everything about Raapcon from all the people I've been seeing, the picture that everybody being tagged in. And I know a lot of people were very excited to see me, but also very excited to meet you. And so I'm really hoping that everybody got to come up with you and talk and talk about the game and talk about me, brother. They just be around a lot of people who are big fans of this show because look, I complain about this show a lot. But after watching the 1000th episode, I really don't take for granted that this is a show that we've been watching my whole life and I really do enjoy it.

3:57Even when big brother is good, it's the best show on TV. When it's bad, it's just big brother. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll have something to say about that in a little while here, but yes, whether you were at Raapcon or somewhere else, we all saw the outcome of Thursday's 1000th episode. No, not the part where production decided to celebrate that milestone by having the players not play big brother again as we'll see Sunday. But before that, when they voted out, Mallory, I have to admit, from my own selfish point of view, this was the preferred outcome because it was going to be the easiest podcast to prepare for. It was the one that I had been writing in my head already before the flip happened when I was driving up there. I thought that I was talking to Terran about this too. You know, we thought it was set. Nothing was going to change. It was obviously going to be Mallory unless she won the blockbuster. And dude, dude, dude, we get there and all of a sudden, I find out from people, I think from Terran actually or maybe shortly before from Terran.

5:00Whoa, what's going on here? So yes, you know, I'm sorry that I had to say this was my preference, but you know, got it, got it, you know, I didn't have a control over it. It was just my preference. But just because it's the easiest doesn't mean it's quite a straightforward as some people might think. Yes, there is one particular action that we will mention that led to this outcome. But we need to look behind that action to the motivation and overall gameplay or lack thereof, leading up to it. Well, of course, do that in our usual way by comparing how Mallory played to a set of guiding rules I originally wrote back in 2004 and have modified ever since. We'll analyze her actions using what we saw on TV, live feeds, interviews and other information. And the most recent published version of the rules is available at RobHazelwebsite.com slash Big Brother Rules. But before we get to all of that, I do again want to mention Rehab Pan because it was incredible to be able to meet so many listeners and get to chat with you.

6:04And so thank you to everyone who said hello, talked about your enjoyment of this podcast. It really does mean a lot. I appreciate it. And Chappelle, so many people talked about how great it's been to have you on here. They loved OV2. They're really having fun with you on here. We had a fun, informal, wide-blank-lost meetup on Friday for those who could make it. And some of them had a message for you. Oh, that's so cool. Oh man, they got me blushing on this podcast. I'm, yeah, I'm too dark for that. Look, I never came in with the intention of feeling OV shoes because OV is good at what he does, right? He's played Big Brother. I can never even pretend like I feel like I'm doing that. I just wanted to make sure that, you know, whatever I brought to the table was at least, you know, something that may be different, but that people still enjoyed. And so I'm very happy that people have been enjoying the coverage. I'm happy that you will allow me to come in a little bit

7:05unorthodox as I am and kind of join in with the conversation. But I'm definitely very happy that people were thinking about me in my absence because I would have loved to be there with the YX lost crew. But unfortunately, I wasn't, but I've definitely listened in on all the stories and looking for all the photos. And yeah, maybe next time. Yes, yes, hopefully next time. So something else in Milwaukee that was a big topic were cheese curds. All right. A lot of podcasters had no idea they'd never eaten at a culverts before. Now, those are fried cheese curds that you get. Breaded cheese curds. But I needed to find the genuine article, the squeaks as they're called. And that's because they literally squeak when you eat them if they're fresh. And so, uh, Genio Ottoman, I stopped at the, uh, at the Mars cheese castle to pick some real, well, I picked up some real cheese curds. So, uh, you know, Milwaukee people, you know, and Wisconsin people in general, we supported you there.

8:09And then look, it didn't squeak, David. So I don't know how fresh it is. It took a big bite, but, uh, trust me, it's squeaking. It's a true and to the mice. Yes. Perfect. I'm going to start taking bites of cheese, David. This is when you're supposed to talk. See, you know, look, well, I wasn't there. I don't have to say it through the share, but I am jealous. I am very jealous. I don't think I've ever had a cheese curt. You know, I like my fried cheese as much as the next person, like the mozzarella sticks and such. But no, I've been, I've been hearing about the curds. Uh, I hear Milwaukee's beautiful this time of year as well. I saw pictures of this massive, massive ass lake that looked like the ocean from where I was sitting. Um, so yeah, um, crazy. But, um, I'm so happy that everybody had a good time and was able to enjoy big brother and a wrongful of people. And yeah, uh, me and the people who couldn't make it, uh, we were just holding down the fort, watching the feeds and, really being able to listen in on all the fun stuff. Yeah, I had like, I listened to Terrence Live,

9:09Live Live, Feed Up. That sounded really cool. Uh, and then I got to hear y'all on the podcast on the recaps. And so that was very cool as well. So, um, yeah, you got to do that again. It would be nice. Yeah, it's not surprising to me that you haven't had cheese curds because my son who, you know, lives in Texas now, he's very disappointed, uh, by the fact that you don't, you know, he went to the state fair, expecting cheese curds. He went to the rodeo expecting cheese curds. I think he eventually found some, but not, you know, not the same, not what he was expecting, uh, having experienced it here in the Midwest. So, um, uh, so, but, uh, yeah, I don't know. Texas is a cattle state. I don't understand why you don't have, uh, cheese curds. No clue, no clue, but I, I feel like I got the best souvenir with that video. That was pretty cool. Yes, yes. All right, well, aside from Rehab Khan, uh, I do have one other item to discuss about the week in general. And that would be Drew because Mallory said in interviews that he is in the worst position in the

10:13house. And he probably is right now, but he saved himself this week after almost cooking himself first. He didn't say anything to defend himself in the group meeting the D had. He realized, oh, D wants me to be an attack dog. So he did at the nomination ceremony. And now he was still on the block, but he showed where he stood. He made D and Devons happy, which of course made Yash Taylor La La. No, they can't work with him. And if he hadn't won the blockbuster, well, you know, we'd be doing a completely different podcast right now. But I don't know if he has buried in melody anymore. He has the icons. That's about it. And we already know they consider him disposable. I don't have high hopes for Drew. I think if I'm not mistaken, my last week's prediction was that Drew was going to be out this week. I thought we were going to be talking about Drew if I'm not mistaken. But he managed to avoid that. But just like I'm watching his game, he definitely has

11:18some things that he's good at. But there's some things that he's not great at. But I won't start really judging him as a player until this week. Because if he's not able to get melody back, David, I just feel like she's begging to come back. Like, yes, she's upset. I saw, you know, like she's upset as she should be, right? You know, she's been lied to an entire game. But people are going to be mad. And they go, and I know, okay, I'll take it in the comments. Vinnie Panero. He would have had her back in 15 minutes. He would have been crying and we've been begging and pleading and done and done and done and done and done. And we've seen him come on back. We've seen people come back from stuff like this before Dan Gisling. We've seen we saw him blindside Danielle Murphy, vote out her, her number one ally at the final four at three final four. You know, we saw these things happen over and over and over again. And people are able to weasel they were back in it. So to me, that melody being back in Drew's pocket is the mark of whether or not he's got that dog in them. And that's really what I want to see this week. I want to see if he's able to do that because yeah, she's pushing him away and like, no, she's very not

12:22ready to talk to him. Sure. But okay, who else does she really have? You know, is she going to go to be at the bottom of the other alliance? Okay, I guess. Um, it's your that about you a week or two. But if they're putting you up Drew, guess what they're going to put next to him? Uh, you know, you you might end up sitting right there with them. If they don't want to target all the icons, which we've seen them mistakenly not do before. So yeah, I think that if he can't get melody back in, that he's not the player that I think he thinks he is. And so, um, yeah, it's a rough week for him for sure. David, he looked like he was about to cry that entire episode. Even after winning the blockbuster, where he should be the happiest when he when he heard them all sigh at him voting out Mallory, you could see the reaction like as he heard it like, oh, God, I have to up. It's like this is riveting television. But man, I hate it. I hate for it to be me. Yeah, yeah. I, I mean, at this point, I don't think it's possible for him to win. I mean, yeah, I'm going to need it. Yeah. Who could he beat at the end? Maybe thawed? Oh, definitely. Dog. I mean, can you imagine what a final two that would be? I don't know how you get there. How you get there?

13:25Oh my God. Yeah. Um, yeah, I could see Lala still voting for me. Maybe maybe I can see Lala Taylor still voting for drew over thawed. But, but I say that now, but in three weeks, I don't know, right? Um, Angela probably would vote for a thawed over drew. I get right now, but again, in three weeks, I don't know. Uh, Devon was probably going to vote for drew. Barrett tried to get him out, you know, this week. And so, um, maybe he's not a big fan of Drew. Maybe Melody by that point, isn't at that point. So yeah, I think for it to be a toss up between you and thawed, you have to have done something wrong. Yeah. Yes. But we won't be discussing that just yet. Well, you know, I'm sure we will at some point, but not just yet. Uh, now, uh, speaking of people who are wrong, uh, I actually don't have anything for Julie Chen Moonefes is wrong about blank, but I do have a big brother production is wrong about blank. And I'm sure, yes. I'm sure everyone can guess what the blank is, which is a terrible twist. We will be seeing on Sunday. Uh, now Julie was still the

14:28messenger, but we know she didn't make the decision producers day. And they basically told fans, screw you, uh, you hated the white locust twist and we're going to do it again. Ha ha. Now, I'm sure we will have more to say about this after the elimination. Uh, and just so people know, we are, we are not going to do a special, why blank loss podcast for this elimination that's coming on Sunday. Uh, we will be just combining it in with the regular one, uh, for our usual Saturday podcast. Um, but the reason I want to talk about it now instead of waiting is, I want to go on record because when Rachel was eliminated by the hamster reel of death last season, Ovi and I talked about how terrible it was to completely throw away the entire framework of big brother, including not even having a vote. And some people said, oh, you're just mad because Rachel went home. And I was like, no, no, it's about the game. It doesn't matter who goes home. And,

15:36and so I'm saying this now before we even know who is eliminated, this sucks. I don't care if we could fog leaves. I mean, I'd be happy to be the longer on the show. I would still be mad at the twist. And, you know, like Terence said something similar in I think the Thursday recap. He was like, even though people are against the items, I don't want to see an item leave because I want them on the block to see the error of their ways. Yeah, given them the out to be able to say, well, I would have won if it wasn't for this. That's kind of crazy, right? Like we kind of faced some of that with the with the comma vote out because it felt like, oh, if it wasn't for the diamond power veto, comma, wouldn't have lost the game. But there were other factors. Other factors we outlined them. I thought pretty thoroughly here that like we talked about the positive things in commos game. I was very complimentary to commo, but there were definitely things he did wrong. Socially, that were glaring errors, you know, the tea party and all that other stuff were glaring errors.

16:37They did not make people. They did not endear him to people. People did not want to work to him. He was being targeted because of his actions a lot of times. He was managing the wisdom self out of it. But at least he could we could say, okay, these are things that he did wrong that led to the diamond power veto being used to get them out. That said, if somebody just goes out of some random competition, then yeah, if it is dog, if it's Angela, if it's Drew, if it's, you know, whoever it is, it doesn't matter because we could say that Drew did all this crazy stuff wrong, leading up to this week that we were all where he almost went home. But if he goes out in a random competition, none of that matters. None of that, none of that has anything to do with it. We would be wasting our time to talk about did Drew scheme and plot enough. It doesn't matter. What he lost was a ring toss competition, you know, or a joust, you know, or something. I don't know why I think it's going to be a joust, but it feels like, you know, it's evil. It evil there. Yeah. It's not like a joust story. I don't know what else they do. But you know, I'm saying like it would be a disservice to us to have to sit here and be like, he, he did all this other stuff wrong. It's not really why he lost, but we just want to talk about it. And so I mean, we would, we would still do it.

17:39I mean, this is where combining them. We would still do it much like we did with Rachel because we've done that with survivor meta-vax. You know, why did they look well? He got bitten by a snake. They got bitten by a snake. What are you going to do? You know, let's talk about his game up to that point anyway. So yeah, we would still talk about it. And we will whoever it is. Now, we obviously don't know exactly what's going to happen. But normal big brother has an HOH, nominations, a veto, and most importantly votes. And yes, there are twists in there. The Diamond Power of Vito is a perfect one. But that basic format is supposed to remain as a framework. But as far as we know, looking ahead, all of those are gone for this twist. All we, I mean, the, the language that Julie used, calling it, you know, people will have to use their social, whatever, their social skills. It's the same excuse that they used when Rachel went out. So that puts me on high alert, the fact that she was using the exact same language. And so,

18:41you know, that plus shutting down live feeds for three days, the action that we're half-counting was very loud, very angry. I will say, as we are recording this, we had a surprise and feeds are back. Yeah. So now, obviously, I mean, literally, it happened like, I don't know, a couple of minutes before we started to record this, I think. So, you know, nothing that, nothing that happens on there will influence at all this podcast. But just like it doesn't normally when feeds are on. So that was a little surprising that they did that. Maybe they, maybe they heard the loud and angry chorus from Rehabcon and elsewhere. I wouldn't be shocked because people were not happy because how do you follow up your 1000th episode with taking away the very thing that we're here celebrating? Big Brother is 1000 episodes long, but imagine how much time we've invested in watching the show outside of those episodes with a lot of feeds being a factor since season one. You know,

19:441000 episodes, it payles in comparison to like what roughly probably a million hours that we've spent consuming big brother content, you know, like 1000 episodes is nothing in comparison to how much time we spend on the live feeds are listening to updates about the live feed scrolling the time when I'm looking at live feeds like 1000 episodes is not enough to, you know, to really just like encapsulate what big brother is all about. But a lot of feeds is where it starts. And so, yeah, them taking it away at that point is just crazy. And I know you said, like, production was wrong for that. And they they definitely are. But, um, Julie, be wrong too, you know, uh, I think in the in the 1000 episode, she, uh, she said this was Taylor's first blockbuster and it was it. And then also, yeah, you know, and then also I think, uh, I think Kyle and his now the runner up of Big Brother 23, which is also something that they made up. Three. Yeah, which is three, which she made up. And so, you know, like, so, you know, Julie's the hazard flaws, but the biggest one is trying to convince us that these competitions that in the, instead, doom for people is a part of the game. It maybe,

20:44it's going to be right, maybe in the future, we're going to have to start factoring those things in. But, and I guess if you do it two or three times in a row, it's a pattern at some point, but right now it just feels like a little something extra that's all I'm just doing that is kind of outside of the norms that we're used to. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Labor Day's savings are happening now at the Home Depot with select appliances starting at $399. Plus, save up to an extra $1,000 and get free delivery on appliance purchases of $998 or more. Get a whirlpool laundry tower featuring industry first UV clean technology designed to reduce bacteria in the wash without fading fabrics. Plus, with great prices at the Home Depot, you can save on select appliances designed to make laundry day easier, shop Labor Day savings at the Home Depot today. Offer Bell at August 27th through September 16th, we'll only see store online for details. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So, you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was. The bike you've been searching for, you sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know,

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22:53lack thereof. Mallory seems like a very nice person. I really liked her in the house, but it also seems like she never lived up to her potential. I know she loves the game, but why didn't she play the game the way she should have? And how did that inevitably lead to her eviction? At RJP we know Big Brother and we know why Mallory lost. Now the first and most important rule is of course to scheme and plot and I think Mallory knew that. But as people will see me mention in the special podcast I recorded with Mike Bloom at RehabCon, which we'll discuss a little later. Albert Einstein once said, in theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. And Mallory's scheming skills were just only good in theory and they were not as good as her pipe skills. Almost two weeks into the game Mallory commented that she didn't think alliances had formed yet. On the July 22nd show we saw her ask Barrett, do you think you're going

23:53to start working with them, them being the icons? Of course we knew he'd been working with them since there was a them to work with. She was not seeing what was in front of her face. She was scheming and plotting with the same three people the entire game and two of those people were double agents. So when it came down to who she could actually trust through her to scheme and plot with it was just melody. You know she at some point say it was Barrett and Drew but they were running information back to all these other sides of people where these two people were just so insular the conversation they were having everything was just like the two of them were tested to hip to the point where they even get a punish where they're tied together and it nothing changed nothing changed you got a punish where you're tethered to somebody and all your alliances stayed the same. All your conversations were the same because y'all were attacking the entire time you never made any inroads with anybody else. Why are you screaming and plotting with the same two to three people? There's 16 people in the house you know more than that with the with the icons. So for you to be

24:57there for weeks and not realize that people are playing other alliances it means that you were just you just don't have your foot on the gas right like you're not you don't have your head in the game socially she seems great but a social game is not enough in big brother these days you have to be able to to to make alliances and connections with other people strategically and it just didn't seem like she was willing to do that. Right yeah and you know that that that difference between theory and practice continued all the way up until her eviction because in part due the fact that she wasn't scheming with them she knew in theory to be suspicious of the icons she said so in theory she said she wanted to win power and go after them in practice she had the opportunity and threw it away now Mallory said in her entertainment weekly interview that she'd been hiding the mosh pit alliance from y'all and Taylor quote so I had a feeling that if I won HOH I wouldn't have

25:58it in my heart to put up y'all shan Taylor so I would have just put up the mosh pit I'd run that by Barrett who said that would be a terrible idea that would be a disaster that everyone would blow everything up so going into the competition I was like if this is the competition I could win then that's a sign I should win it so I went in trying and I was doing well and then at the end I saw that I was actually close to winning it and I choked a little because I didn't know what I would do now she also claimed to tear him that she didn't throw it she choked because she didn't know who she would nominate I'm sorry Mallory we're not buying it I know you know this is revisionist history you already said you threw it you talked about watching a tiktok video by a former player who said never throw a comp because you don't know when you're actually safe and you added that if you were to go home this week you will never forget that you're the reason you went home because

26:59you could have won and didn't it is too late now to try to claim you didn't throw it yeah those are your words you know I'm saying like what you get out of the house and you now you you've come down right it cooler head tip prevailed you're out of the house it's probably like a lot to process and immediately when you come out the house Julie's like so why did you throw the challenge you know um so so the same this is the same person we just saw having one of the most human moments I've seen on Big Brother in a long time just a guttural scream of just like the the idea that she betrayed her own trust right she it's this feeling that I knew exactly what I should have did I didn't do it and now I can't be mad at anybody by myself yes I would love to take my anger out on all these other people the survivors of the worst people in the world I hate the I hate all these other people what you really just matters you you mad at you because you knew what you needed to do and so in order to this place that you've come out and now there's this new story that like well I didn't throw it per se I just slowed down when I thought I was going to win it because I didn't really want to win it

28:05so so so you agree you threw it right like if you didn't if you thought you were going to win something and then you actively slowed down so you didn't win it that means you did not want to win it right anymore you changed your mind and if you felt like you were good with La La and Yash who else were you questioning in the house Mallory you would I watched you on the feed and on the show talking about hey is this is this a new much because Alliance just something that the the vets are throwing at us to get them through the week you and Melanie talked about it so if you felt so good with La La and Yash why didn't you just win and say okay who's the highest bidder I got to pick aside at some point what let's come to me let's see what happens here you know we definitely saw moments where she has expressed her displeasure with D D had no issue putting up Mallory and if I was Mallory I would have never let that go I would have still been targeting D you know just because once this president put you up what's stopping them from putting them up again and here you go back up on the block again and so yeah you can try to convince us but it's not like you're trying to

29:10convince yourselves yeah I mean I I don't understand it and this is where things get complicated because you know people were asking me afterwards well it's because she threw right you know that's it's like yes but we have to look at the reasons that she threw and everything else behind that because yeah she okay like you said you don't want to nominate Ashen Taylor good then do what you have been talking about doing again this is where the difference between theory and practice come in it is easy and theory to say you want someone gone she has been saying it but suddenly you have the opportunity and oh well maybe it's more complicated than that the thing that gets me she should have thought this through ahead of time she's an engineer this is why I'm wearing you know Tristan Jubicki robot shirt here she's a rocket scientist she should be used to thinking ahead about possible problems and how to solve them that is literally what engineering is

30:12in this case her solution was to not solve anything and hope for the best and there's a reason we say hope is not a strategy right she thought about the things we heard her vocalize those things we saw her have those realizations we watched Angela slip up and say that the icons have been working with Drew and bear at the entire time so why are you so surprised that this is happening again we know what what exactly is happening here why is that a shock to you you heard Angela say it's like we heard Angela tell y'all and then we tell y'all talk about in the diary room how you know I don't think Angela was supposed to say that you know um so for me yeah she got I think she got complacent I think that she is a very social player I think that when she was in her little bubble with the with the facts I think that's her home that's that's where she's most comfortable then I think that she was forced to go outside that bubble you know for strategy reasons but there were definitely nights where we saw her utilizing her social skills to like to really ingratiate herself with the group you know she's always driving the fake like playing and the fake bus and all

31:16that stuff and they seem to really like it the problem is she was like using her social game on them for a social game kind of help later take her to guard down she started thinking oh these are my real life friends I don't want to be the one to take one of them out I can't possibly be the one to put you on the block when these people would put you on the block in a heartbeat and so um yeah her heartbeat and here she is on the block and she should have just taken the reins and when she had a chance and bet on herself instead of them yeah and it's funny because either sheer melody I can't remember which uh said in the diary room D is a coward and they were both said mad they both said it but I mean the next the rest of it was uh that that D they they called her coward but one of them explained the reason behind it was that D didn't want to get blood on her hands so she nominated Mallory but that's the same reason Mallory didn't want to win H.O.H so if you're calling her a coward do you see the reflection there you're surrounded by mirrors look at one of them not to mention that what

32:21they said about D was 100% wrong I know that was the excuse to use but come on you could not see that was an excuse D was getting blood on her hands Mallory oh I have clean hands as I walk out the door yeah she again I think she's trying to convince herself there's no way there's no way that you really bought that D didn't want to get more blood on her hands so she's putting you back up we I've said this before with the blockbuster there are no ponds that three people went up three and then there has to be a fourth if a veto is won so you're not a pawn if someone put you on the block that means you're one of the top three or four people that they are okay with losing like do I have to explain pawn again you know like it's like I don't want to get more blood on my hands so I'm putting you up but you're not going home yeah but you're putting me in harm's way and that should be enough for me not to trust you and so I get it by that point it's too late she's probably going home but she's on the block and she's crying to us in the diary room or whatever I feel for her but at the same time like there's no way you could possibly believe that that's these you know what D is telling you

33:25is true at this point right like because her actions are not matching her words yeah like oh I don't want to get more blood on her hand so I'm gonna get the blood of one of my allies on my hands sounds like you're not much of an ally so this was tough to watch because you could tell she's a big fan of very passionate about the game but she left the game get away from her a long time ago yeah and that's the thing you know even leading up to the nomination even afterwards she I mean you talked about earlier how she stayed in her bubble but even when you're nominated or you know you're about to be nominated campaign and she barely did it be the screenshots on blue sky mentioned she lobbied harder to get more almond milk for the house than she did to stay off the block you know and and you know yeah you can say okay talking to D it's unlikely that would have changed things but it can't hurt and she could have been talking to others who might have talked to D on her behalf but no she didn't do that then after she was nominated there was of course the push to keep her overdrew and we think it would have succeeded if Drew hadn't won blockbuster but she

34:30wasn't even the instigator of that it was mostly bear it and so and again since she wasn't doing anything there it didn't help her when Drew did win blockbuster so my bloom asked her about her campaigning and she said I don't know for sure if anything could have been different but it really did feel like it was out of my hands even when Dee told me she was considering me for the Renoam I was like they're gonna realize they're burning this bridge and I'm gonna be mad and I was so it was really hard to try and convince them otherwise because it just didn't make logical sense that I would be like no it's fine I want to keep working with you guys and that was like all the kind of all I could say so she says it wouldn't have made sense Drew has done that exact thing at least twice after being nominated by his own supposed allies and it has worked and then we're just talking about things that she's done recently but I mean you can go back to when lyric was it voted out Valerie that should have been your wake-up

35:31call right then you know lyric was running around the house trying to find anybody who would take her in anybody she was just looking for safety she didn't care who she got it from she was you know and that is your ally you lost your ally that week and these are the same people that you're letting sell you a dream the people who got lyric out the people got wrong out these are the people where you're letting like dictate this for you I remember I'll never let it go that when Lala won the the wall competition Valerie said I was trying to melody in the story June room right after she said um yeah oh yeah if Lala doesn't flip the house then effort because you know we need to shift the power okay so what are you gonna do when it's your time to flip the power oh no I don't want to get blood on my hands but Lala has to you you could have won something you could have done something and so it's this is not like oh this week all of a sudden she just wasn't doing what needed to be done she's been laying the groundwork for this inactive gameplay for a long time yeah yeah absolutely

36:34all right we could go on to the second rule which says not to scheme and plot too much and to keep your scheming secret then okay the first part we just discussed there was no scheming and plodding too much keeping your scheming secret that's another matter because very early on she got into an obvious group of three that you just mentioned lyric and melody and she's been also as you mentioned tied to melody almost the entire game quite literally or some of that time and of course she and melody were known to be tight with Drew and Barrett as well then she started showing more friendship with Yash and Taylor which obviously wasn't what the icons wanted to see but that was part of the problem Mallory showed far too much of her game such as I mean you said it earlier she was so obviously together in that for in that group of four with that she was so obviously potentially shifting over to Yash and Taylor and she talked about wanting to target

37:36the icons be in particular it wasn't just to Drew so you know if she'd only talk to Drew and Drew ratted her out we could say well that was a Drew issue she just didn't see it she even told someone like Kamu that she would be targeting the survivor players we saw that in July 26th episode all of this obvious information together was a big part of what led her to be targeted at that time with D saying that the day prior or the day prior that she was one of Barrett's pieces and wanted to take her away from him a couple days after on live feeds Devon said targeting her would be a true test of where Barrett and Drew stood all of the information she had shared over that time game together to cause them to want her gone previously not even this time she wants the icons to be trustworthy even though she has not been trustworthy for the icons throughout the game there were weeks where her indeed didn't have a work a relationship at all we all

38:38knew where Mallory stood and I didn't even have an issue with that at the end of moment because I thought go Mallory you know what to do you're gonna win HOH you're gonna put up your obvious target in D and then you will target D now whoever you put up beside D you'll figure that out but you know D is going on the block we all knew it so for weeks to go by and you to get blindsided here for you to get told last this for you to get blindsided there and then still think well I think we're working together now right that's on you that's on you because those people should know they can't trust you there were definitely weeks where they actively knew oh yeah like Devon's he knew Mallory's not messing with me he doesn't like he doesn't she's not she's not feeling it D knew for sure that no matter what you know she could always go back to bear to be like well you know Mallory's still gonna come after me you know recently in his last two weeks or so you know Angela has been connecting with her more even Devon's has been connecting with her more but her indeed still they they've never had a working relationship in the game where D did not think that okay if given the opportunity Mallory will flip

39:40on her so D had no reason to not put Mallory up even if D went around the house and said who is also had my name a lot of people have but she has heard Mallory you know from so many other people throughout the entire month that the game has been going on that Mallory's been after so yeah her scheme in plotting wasn't secret and I honestly wouldn't have an issue with that if you were gonna do something about it if you have a public enemy fine but at least target them you have the opportunity to target them and decided you wanted to keep your hands clean now that means that you should have probably kept your scheming and plotting secret yeah and Mike Bloom even asked her why you were so why she was so upfront about it and she said it just kind of seemed like that was the side of the house that I was on that was kind of the goal to go after them and I wanted people to think that I was going to do that too I want people to think I'm a good competitor that's going to go after these three people but if they stay in the house they're just going to steam roll and win so I kind of hope that would make people want to keep me more so she said it because she was on

40:43the side against D but then expected to be able to work with D in the Marsh pit make it make sense Chappelle make it make sense to me I can't because even if she says the side of the house I was on I felt like they were all you know we're all thinking the same thing we need to target these people yeah but then you notice that the more savvy people on your side did not allow them to know that they were you were going to target them but yeah we can talk about Lala they won Lala said oh we're obviously getting Angela out well that's not smart you know that why would you say that whereas if Drew and Barrett have any intention of taking them out they don't know it and so that's why they're going to be able to move through this game getting passed up by things like this because it's beneficial for them to not know if you're going to be stills you are a target of them at least be secretive about it or you know be more stealthy about it like for you to say like well this side of the house I wanted them to know yeah they could know but why do the icons need to know I'm

41:43not telling you to go tell all these people that that could be a general feel that yeah eventually we're going to get the icons but you announce and get and being the the poster child for that kind of stuff is only going to hurt you when those people get into power and then you have the opportunity to make sure that didn't happen you decided not to so for me David I'm having an issue with like carrying both things at the same time it's like right I want to play the I want to target them but I also want to play the middle it's like you can't have both of them you have to target them or play the middle and for you saying I'm a target them and then trying to play the middle is it's counterintuitive to what your goal actually is yeah either she was confused or confusing I'm not sure which she and Melody had been in a good position with FAP and the mosh pit along with the potential ability to swing over to gash and tailor and Lala but they repeatedly wavered they had such a hard time making a decision about Kamu after they had been solidly anti-Kamu and then even

42:46worse everybody knew again you're not keeping its secret and they also knew a big reason Mallory almost flip was so Kamu could go after the icons but then when she had the opportunity to do exactly that she gave the HOH to the icons instead yes you gotta you gotta put up a shut up I think I said that last week I think that was my words they're like hey I'm tired of hearing about it either either do something or stop talking about it every week it oh well when I get in power I'm going to target the icons are we're gonna get them we're like we heard that so much I have the same criticism for Lala you had the every opportunity in the world to put all three of all three of the icons up you did not and now one of your allies is gone and so for Mallory to sit here and tell us every week in the diary room that these are my targets to sit around in a group and talk about your targets with all the people in the group and then you have the moment to take

43:47the shot at set targets you chickened out because you didn't want to get blood on your hands but why not get some blood on your hands with big brother don't be afraid to play yeah yeah all right well the third rule talks about the need to be flexible how do you think Mallory did here not great not great I just again I just feel like she found her comfort zone in the house yes look at the people who I will say are more flexible right like let's even talk about like I what we said about Kamu I was very impressed with his flexibility lyric as well maybe too flexible for lyric but you would never accuse them of only hanging out with some one group of people my lyric was like she had got caught basically just hanging out with everybody Drew has been very flexible he's been all around that house he'll work with whoever it don't matter you know and that might catch up with him one day but you can not accuse Mallory of that at all Mallory was with melody when she won that that that that punishment nobody was no one was shocked

44:52that she picked melody to lock herself to and I thought that was crazy I remember Terrence and he didn't think it was that big of a strategic error but I remember taking it might not be an error but there has to be a way you can maximize your your your win here like you now tied yourself to somebody you were already going to be tied to that's not going to get you any any more rooms that's not going to get you into any different conversations if they've been lying to her they've been lying to you they're not going to start now that y'all are tied together not going to start telling you the truth and so I feel like even that was something that no one was shocked by like you didn't take that opportunity to go out and make any new connections because you found fab those were your besties you hung out every day every alliance you're in and consists of those four people you know we've seen bear it in alliances they got fat in it they say alliances they don't have fat in it we have alliances with the red corner in it we don't have alliances with the red corner and there's a lot of the drool and and devin there's not there's a lot of what D Mallory doesn't have any of that you know every the lion season melody is in it with it yeah yeah I mean everything you said plus

45:55I mean we talked about her wavering back and forth and and someone might think well that was you know trying to be flexible figure out the best way no no you actually have to have options and use them not just talk about using them Mallory did give herself like two ways to go not nearly as many as she should have like you said but and she kept being afraid to actually implement them and came back to the fab you know and I mean I still agree with her decision to evict Kamu as we talked about there were lots of good reasons to do so but she had the right idea about targeting the icons of course we've already said this when the team time came to actually do it she bailed you can't repeatedly talk about taking in action and then just not do it that is not flexibility yeah you got to make the move you know like as what is she waiting on she's waiting on

46:57y'all she and Taylor and Lala to take all the shots and then she just say oh well y'all got them y'all did it already it's like well eventually the other side is going to win and if you're not going to be the one winning then who do you expect to make these moves for you you know and so it just wasn't great you know I got I think there was the like you said the idea the theory of flexibility in her mind but when it came down to it she just got I mean she's in that house you don't know everybody you're finally people you you mesh with you get your little bubble you talk shit right I think that's what she was really good at you get in the room with Mallory she could she could talk shit with you the best I think Dave I was also very good at that that was one of her things like you coming to room with Dave I she can point blank in a period you all day y'all like oh yeah we're friends we got this you know and I think Mallory was really good at that she's really good at bringing people in on that kind of stuff but that was the stuff they got her in trouble and then so like if you're talking to such a big game and you're making yourself out to be such a threat which I'm sure we'll talk about this shortly um be threatening if you're going to make

47:58yourself if you go what make every I think you're at that at least be willing to pull the trigger right right labor days savings are happening now at the home depot select appliances starting at $399 plus save up to an extra thousand dollars and get free delivery on appliance purchases of $998 or more get a whirlpool laundry tower featuring industry first UV clean technology designed to reduce bacteria in the wash without fading fabrics plus with great prices at the home depot you could save on select appliances designed to make laundry day easier shop labor days savings at the home depot today off of dollar dollars 27th through september 16th do us only see store online for details this episode is brought to you by facebook so you were scrolling on marketplace and there was the bike you've been searching for you send a message and it turned out the seller was super chatty kind of funny and an avid cyclist the next thing you know you're in a cycling crew well a community cycling group the thing about facebook you might find more than what you're looking for

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50:04and then she did it anyway this is exactly where pretending to be nice and controlling your emotions are supposed to come into play it is fine to let it out in the diary room so perhaps not quite as loudly as Mallory did so the whole house could hear her through the walls uh but that's where it should have stayed act as if you're not so mad that you will seek revenge pretend that you totally understand and you still want to work with them i mentioned it works for drew twice now okay i'm not sure he was pretending the first time we talked about that he was just kind of clueless but still it's the same outcome acting like you're not mad and it had the same result for him give it a shot she can she can't help herself this is not some one of her strengths right when she immediately is upset with D when she gets put on the block the first time that's where she really kind of seclude herself into that fat you know it wasn't fat at the time but into that melody drew

51:05buried kind of group you know these are people lyric as well like i'm gonna lay in here i'm gonna pal and complain and these are my friends i'm gonna hang out with them i don't want to hang out with the survivors it's the worst people ever we get that but the survivor should not think that you feel that way um you know um as again we talked about Kamu's game to uh you know in in in in full like a detail right but one of the things he was good at is when you when you burned him he was willing to play the game like hey no it's no hard feelings what do you want to do what do you how how do we work together moving forward is that another from for Mallory it didn't feel like that it felt like okay she went and screamed in the closet like her and in in melody all that holler in there we're doing it last week i mean emotions just out of control right if there's any question of like oh wait we should we are you sure we should talk to target Mallory this week don't you think she'll ever get over it i don't know but do you really like Drew maybe we should just vote out Taylor no we should vote out the person yelling like a banshee yeah every time you know you leave the rope you know or like you can hear them i i think um right after the uh the

52:07feeds came back on right after um the episode went off on Thursday i one of the first things i saw Angela say was did you hear melody screaming in the background why do they hear you screaming in the background i like you got some sense you know at least pretend like you got some sense okay what you doing a diorama as long as everybody else don't know yeah yeah Mallory told entertainment weekly that she thought coming in she would play it knowing it's a game and there could only be one winner but once she was there she couldn't do it quote it's really hard because it is my dream to be there and then when it feels like someone is trying to basically crush my dream it's hard to not be very angry and upset and sad it just feels like life or death in there i was surprised by the fact that i didn't have it more under wraps like i thought it was or like i thought i would again the difference between theory and practice yes i mean you don't just have to understand the rules that we discuss

53:08here you have to put them into action okay and if if you know it's going to be hard to control your emotions you gotta work that much harder you have to tell yourself no i i know here that i need to be not screaming i need to pretend here for the sake of my game this is your dream if you don't want it crushed don't help them crush yeah i know this would be a rule i struggle with because i am very much a happy person i am always i'm very cheerful baby you've known me for a long time you rarely see me like in a mood there's not i'm like i'm grinning all the time that's just why am because when i'm not it's so apparent you can tell from a mile away that he's not feeling it you know like this would be something that i knew that i would be bad it so if i were to come in the big brother game it would be something i knew i needed to concentrate on i'm not saying i could concentrate on it right i've been me my whole life i know that's something that i was struggling with i think that that's something that she didn't think that she would have to really manage because no one when they think

54:08about playing big brother think about themselves being the ones being blindsided being the ones being betrayed being the ones being lied to so it's easy to come in and think like yeah i'll control my emotions from a place of leadership you know i'm saying like from a place of like the frontrunners spot yeah i'll control my emotions i won't let these people make me mad i'm gonna make really uh measured decisions and you know make sure i put the right people on the block and all this other stuff you don't think oh but how am i going to act when i'm put on the block not once which once when i'm blindsided not once which once when my best friend is gonna vote me out one of the best my best friends and how's it gonna vote me out and i find out about it how am i gonna react then you know those are the parts of keeping your emotions and check that i don't think she prepared for and i don't think she could have prepared for i don't think she just saw that as a realistic possibility for her yeah yeah this is one of the times that i'm glad i don't do impersonations like tara and i don't want to blow out my vocal cords anymore than uh you know i have already by you know talking for three days straight to people uh so uh but yeah he he he he he was a little

55:09rough after screaming that many times and it to imitate them so yeah we won't be screaming like i clipped it though maybe i clipped that so fast i was like i need that because again i like the human moment i wasn't the biggest Mallory fan but i do appreciate the real moment right because i felt like everything else uh but before that was blister i felt like she was just talking i feel like everything was like i'm saying what i'm supposed to say i'm saying what y'all want it here i'm saying what i think i want to do but then this was the one time where i saw her in the diary room and it was like i'm saying what i really feel you know in this moment i hate them i hate them so much and it felt it felt like lived in it didn't feel like like why i ought to do something it felt like now like i i hate you actively and i don't know like to me that kind of stuff really does in dear uh characters to me sometimes yeah yeah all right well we can go to the fifth rule which says players need to pretend to be nice and play the social game now we just talked about her not

56:11doing a good job of pretending but with that said you already started talking about her social game so now that we're here how do you want to wrap that into this rule when she wanted to be nice and like when she wanted to be social she could they really did gravitate to Mallory and the house you know uh like you said she seemed lovely she seems like a very nice person uh she can talk trash with you she can uh play the games with you she's driving the fake bus they're all having a good time Mallory nights were fun to watch on the feeds because you knew the house was going to get involved in it and they were really going to enjoy it they didn't want to put Mallory up because they liked her they're like man i don't really think you know like they're willing to make a less than optimal move in a lot of cases if Mallory had not just made herself such a like a such a target by saying like yeah i'm definitely going to target these people uh but socially she was able to almost get to let their guard down in a lot of ways like these should have never stopped warning Mallory out but there were definitely moments where even with the little bit of the relationship that they had and it wasn't much where you could see db like i don't know i think Mallory's fine you know um

57:14and so i give her credit for that but again you're you like you turn those moments on and then when you turn them off it's very clear who you're working with it's very clear who you're really aligned with it's very clear who your friends are there's why i know that bear it okay he's probably not going to want to vote out Mallory when bear it goes and tells them i'm not voting out Mallory they know they're like okay we know that we know we know that nobody was confused about why bell bear wouldn't do that they might not like it but they also weren't confused they knew okay that's exactly what was because it was so obvious who are real friends where they weren't right right yeah i would say if we had to pick one player this season who is the most well liked by the other house guests aside from fog it would be Mallory well thug is bubbly you know so that's yeah you can't you can't you can't you can't you set yeah yeah yeah i don't think any of them had a bad word to say about Mallory in that regard it was you know like you mentioned we love her but we need to vote her out and you know she was right the audience does

58:15too you know she even said before she walked out the door listen to the applause i'm about to get and she had no idea it was filled with you know all the stars previous stars on top of that applause and they're chanting pipe queen at her you know um but she didn't make use of that social positioning like you were saying even when she had someone on her side she had Angela on her side early on but Angela was still willing to vote her out at that point yeah because she was much more easily convinced by deand heavens she needed to work that Angela connection harder she needed to spend time with like you just said de and devins and i know last week we talked about oh de didn't spend much if any time with Mallory and Melody after forming the mosh pit but on the flip side Mallory and Melody didn't go out of their way to seek out time to spend with de either so they handed de the hoh

59:16they were relying purely on this handshake deal not actual personal relationships yeah um you know there's a alliance is a two way streets you know she's uh for her to say like oh these are the worst allies ever okay well how good of an ally are you Mallory you know if we're the master of hoh yeah right but like you let her have hoh so that you didn't have to do something right but then i see you and Melody be like they're the worst allies like well you're not a great ally either you know um it's not like you perform the match pit and then win upstairs if you're like okay D in the mosh pit what if me and you and Melody go to the final three you know what if we try something like that i'll think i ever heard that conversation happen but you were thinking we so obvious to happen like hey let's get down to the final three chances are you could beat Melody in the final three competition or whatever uh i could probably beat her like let's say you even want to take her that's cool but i think the three of us would be more covert because look is it we have to have each other's back because devins and bear it and drew their probably gonna gravitate to each other so

1:00:20maybe me you Angela and Melody now we're a new alliance and we're gonna take them out and let's go get long line Taylor i know we don't like them but that's a number that we can use against you know i'm saying like even if you don't plan on doing it at least pretend to do it so that D says damn they are right we have the mosh pit and we did have that final three you know say or we did have that final four um there's so many alliance fake fake alliances in this house this season and i think i think malarie is in three in his legs in in three in all three of them are inclusive include Melody and i think bear it you know so it's kind of just like and you're not really giving yourself an opportunity to make any moves when everybody so obviously knows where you stand throughout the entire game yeah and the other thing is she actually by not going to talk to D or devins or whoever she removed the social component of her game because

1:01:21one thing that she complained about once she was dominating everything was bear it and drew assured us that we were good well why you were lying on third hand information you're saying they assured us we're good why don't you talk directly to the people and let them assure you now yes i do know at one point she also did talk to D and we'll get to that uh in a couple rules here but she and D said yes you're definitely in you're definitely in follow that up don't just rely on someone else don't let someone else play middleman for your alliance your allies now go talk to them yeah now you rather scream about them in the dire room after the fact all right well the six rule says not to be too much of a threat if you're known as pipe queen both inside the house and outside the house because of one win that suggests people believe

1:02:24you can rock the comms and yes she was talked about as a com piece after winning what but that shows how much of an impression that it made and it branded her as a threat we've talked about this issue many times both on this and the survivor version of this podcast perception is reality she was perceived as a potential problem if people had to face her incomes especially when it came to a decision between her and Taylor but my issue isn't that she won the cop right that's not to me that's not enough my issue is that you won the cop you have this bravado about yourself but you know whether it's earned or not you won that competition people are calling you to pipe queen they call you pipe queen and that is highlighting that you won that competition and that is a nickname that followed out the house and that's cool my issue is that when you have that bravado you then try to act like you don't have it like you playing the middle but having people in the house knowing that you're a threat

1:03:29it's like that's those two things don't align right like you're like I'm a threat but I'm not targeting anybody it's like yes you are you're you're very clear on who you're targeting they all know who you're targeting so you might not be a threat to bear it you might not be a threat to drew currently because you're not gonna target them you definitely not threat to melody but if I'm D you win in that first competition and then also telling people for weeks that you would target me means you're inherently a threat to me so when it's time for people to win HOH and the other option is I don't know D who do you think D is going to think is the biggest threat the person who's been saying for weeks that I would target you probably right and so it's like that's the person you need to keep your threat level down to is the people that you're actually going to target yeah and of course there was another way she was seen as a threat because of her relationships with you know the people you mentioned melody bear it and drew and you know this week Devon said

1:04:30I want to break up the two women and the FAP overall and she was preferable as the one to go because of her physical threat and her social threat ability she had all these things stacked up against her like you said she should have known that she had all these things stacked up against her but she acted as if she didn't nope she wanted to like have the have the bravado of the threat but not actually do threatening things you know it was she's like I want to threaten people but I don't want to take it make any actual moves you know so it's not waving your fist at people you know throw a punch you know and I think for her it was so much fist waving that they could not overlook it they're like okay now to be saying she's good with us but we were hurt nothing but she's not good with us for last month or two yeah yeah all right well the seventh rule says to trust almost nobody is there any particular person or three or more who you would say Mallory trusted

1:05:33way too much okay look I won't say that she trusted the FAP Alliance too much even though I don't definitely know she did right she trusted drew and bear it too much because they were playing both sides but you got trust somebody she picked two people that were not loyal to her they were loyal to themselves whatever but why are you trusting D in Angela why are you trusting devins why why why you sit up in a room with five other people and say you know the icons are next and yet here it is time to target them and you won't do it why are you trusting them I get you trust in fact I'll give you a pass for that you got to have something but why are you trusting those other people it makes no sense yeah I won't give them give her trust in fact I'll get to that in a minute but to follow up on what you said yeah she absolutely should have known not to trust D but she told my bloom we literally just like form this mosh pit alliance a week before I was the Reno and she went out of her way multiple times to say final seven no matter what no ponds no nothing when she went hoh she was like you girls are good don't even worry about it that just kind of

1:06:36felt like overkill and it made being the Reno so much more upsetting I had been thinking I'm going to week eight I'm going to be in the top 10 I had already had these things in my head because she overkilled it she told me I would be totally fine no matter what now I don't quite get Mallory's reference to overkill there I don't know if she's using the word wrong or what because that word suggests to me someone did too much but Mallory was clear who's saying she believed it if it was overkill she wouldn't have believed it so clearly it was not overkill and she also said on the Thursday episode I feel really dumb because I never really trusted the mosh pit but you did you never trust but but but you did you did yeah you did yeah you just you did David she lied to herself she not lied to us you know that we saw it if you didn't trust them you would have won that competition you would have won

1:07:39the competition you would have put them up so you did for some reason you let yourself trust those people and your mad at yourself for letting yourself trust those people against your better judgment because your what your brain was saying this is a rare flag you should not do it but you know you I think she chickened out and now she hasn't justified yeah now it comes to the fappa lions I know you let her off the hook there I did bear it bear it Mallory was on the money when she told Mike bloom I did have some trouble trusting that he was always telling me the full truth and that he wasn't withholding information from me but I did always believe that he didn't want to put my game in harm's way and he had my best interest and I still do think that's true I just think he miscalculated what was going to happen I didn't think he was gonna like try and get me out basically but I do think he got me in a little bit of a pickle well yes that's all true but the problem isn't whether or not he did it on purpose or by accident the result is still the same

1:08:39he was spilling information and it came back to bite her and he had previously cave to pressure and agreed to vote her out once before and yet she trusted him she trusted him and she got people were telling her you know like they had reason not to trust drew they had reason not to trust bear it they were ignoring it but they definitely had reason right so it's like I gave them the pass for the fat alliance but at the point where you're getting new information about your alliance that doesn't align with what you thought you should start to change your gameplay when she sat there in Angela said oh we've been working with Drew and bear it this entire time really because I've only been telling them for the last month and I wanted to target you that's crazy so at that point why do you trust them again yeah yeah and then Drew like you said is even even worse you know despite his obvious emotions about the outcome he has still been willing to completely throw just about anyone under the bus which I mean to be fair is something you need to do in this game

1:09:41but Mallory should have picked it up by now it really does remind me of Big Brother 25 when Jared was spilling all the information to Sury and Jag is walking around going how does all our information get to the other side of the house Jared how do you think all our information is getting to the other side of the house now eventually he figured it out because Jared is not a good spy and if he were a real spy he would have been you know taken out but here it is early August and Melody in Big Brother 28 is instructing Mallory to stop telling Drew anything Mallory agreed and yet she didn't she also said something similar about him as she said about bear it I think Drew talks too much but he does have our best interests at heart we are his eaves and she also said I don't think he ever means it in a malicious way he's just a dumb little boy now she might be

1:10:42right about that but he did not have their best interests at heart he had his own best interests at heart as he should and that's something Mallory should have recognized in a game player like him did you talk about this in the wide jagged lost podcast maybe okay just you know just like I'm sure you touched on that with back when jagged lost Big Brother I mean he did end up winning but I mean dear god um things like this you have to question like hey when you start seeking the signs you know at some point you gotta shake yourself out of it and stop ignoring them right Labor Day's savings are happening now at the Home Depot with select appliances starting at $399 plus save up to an extra thousand dollars and get free delivery on appliance purchases of $998 or more get a whirlpool laundry tower featuring industry first UV clean technology designed to reduce bacteria in the wash without fading fabrics plus with great prices at the Home Depot you could save on select appliances designed to make laundry day easier shop Labor Day's savings

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1:13:53gravis or lamboradietan syndrome and medications including botulinum toxins as these may increase the risk of serious side effects why wait ask your doctor visit Botox chronic migraine.com or call 1-800-44 Botox to learn more all right it is about time to wrap things up so what are your final thoughts about Mallory? so there's a lot of wasted potential but I think potential is all is all that we got to see right it's like I'm going to do this one day I'm going to target these people I'm going to take the shot I'm going to win the challenge I'm going to do these things and then when it came time to do it there was no follow through like you said a lot of theory not a lot of practice she had all the pieces in front of her she had all the tools to do the things she was right there at the place to do the thing and then when it came time to have the killer instinct to win the H.O.H. to put up the people that she knows she didn't trust the people that everybody knew she wanted to get out she did not have the guts to make the move and for that I say like potential is just not enough you know I think that for somebody who's a big fan

1:14:55like her I hate to see it happen but when you're going to play like this it's probably going to happen more times than that yeah as I noted earlier I like Mallory quite a bit I was rooting for her as a fellow engineer just as a nice person I have to be blunt she's stupidly through the H.O.H. and I firmly believe dumb moves should be punished um Mallory deserved to suffer the consequences she knew she was suspicious of D she knew D would win if she did not finish off that course as fast as she could and she still threw it she deserved to lose for that but there were a number of steps leading up to that point Mallory never really had a good reason on or a good read on where everyone stood in the game especially two of her supposed closest allies to umber it but even beyond that she told anyone who would listen that she planned to go after the icon word obviously was going to

1:15:55get back to them she was also obvious about wavering on the commuvo right after the mosh pit was formed and word got back to them about that as well why would D and devins bust that alliance after a week when Mallory herself strongly considered going against it even sooner than they could this was a further problem because people believed she could win comms and put those anti-icons plans into play which made her a threat to them this wasn't only in theory because we indeed know she could have been D in this very H.O.H. comp but she chose not to later she would complain to melody I could have beat her in that H.O.H. but I just trusted that she wouldn't put me up I was right there but I slowed down at the end and that's what Barrett did too she probably think she's a better competitor than us but I could have beat her well Mallory D is a better competitor than all of you

1:16:56because unlike you she actually competed she wasn't afraid to make moves get some blood on her hands put herself in what she believed was a better position but that's exactly what paralyzed Mallory in that moment she should have planned ahead to know exactly what she wanted to do she certainly talked about it enough as we've mentioned but when the time came for her to claim it as a moment she wouldn't do it now people watching at home watching the podcast the recap podcast at home wouldn't know this but during Rehabcon viewing of Thursday's episode different a few different people got up and and said a few words a few different R.H.A.P. podcasters Kirsten McKinnis got up there and said during a commercial break that Mallory talked to big game when she wasn't in power about who she go after when she had the chance to gain power she threw it or as Devon said we all want to play big brother till it's time to play big brother then it's I don't want to do this

1:18:01yes Mallory suffered the consequences of that action or rather in action but that was the final straw of all her non moves leading up to that point she talked and yelled a big game but then didn't play a big game and that is why Mallory lost then it's I mean it's tough it's really tough because you're 100% correct I think Kirsten's 100% correct it's like they you know big brother houses it just engulfs you you're in there you we see people fall in love in two days David you know and so for them for like those temporary emotions of like I gotta get this person I gotta do this thing I gotta do it it gets overshadowed by um you know these idea they're like oh these are my friends and I don't want to hurt these people's feelings and I don't want to do these things and I kind of trust you and I gotta you know but you gotta keep your eye on the prize and I think she lost track of what she was supposed to be doing a long time ago she these should have been on her radar from the moment he put up the first time and to the moment she got D out and the fact that she was able to kind of go out like this with the opportunity to get D out but not pull

1:19:03out of the trigger it just you know it's gonna be a that's a cautionary tale to people in the future for sure yes I would say let it be a lesson and someone said I don't remember who I went Wednesday or Thursdays RIP recap um someone said something to the effect of yes you watch it on a video now next time someone can see it actually in the show but that presumes that people watch the show I mean Mallory watch the show and should have known better but about half the cast is never gonna see of next year's cast is never gonna see this moment I'm not gonna bother to watch it yeah so so we could easily be talking about the same thing next year um yeah but yes for people who want to know it should be a cautionary tale also if you're gonna watch the show and like the supplement the supplementary stuff the tic-tocks and David's content for sure don't ignore it when

1:20:03you get in the house it really the the one we we haven't really talked about it enough for her saying I saw the tic-tock that said you shouldn't throw 808 in the into throw 808 what's the point of watching the show if you just go ignore everything that you did you learn from watching the show yeah yeah if it's bad that we even have a post script to our conclusions you know it's bad then yeah it's tough because like like you said she seems so likable but damn you know like you got to remember what you did to do right right all right well we will still have and obviously after this post script that we're wrapping up here uh you know stay tuned for our predictions uh in a moment which I was going to say are obviously spoiler-free but now that the live feeds have come on there's still spoiler-free and we're written without any knowledge of what happened because we literally didn't know what happened when we you know originally thought of them um but before we get to that I want to mention that the rules we were referencing here are similar to the survivor rules

1:21:08and those come in a shorter and much more colorful version in poster form go to rob his website .com slash yx lost feed scroll down to the poster click on it and order they also come in the poster on a t-shirt form which you can find there as well uh and you can get it as a checklist on a t-shirt form and yes I know we don't have big brother I did see multiple people wearing these shirts at last time that was good um and uh uh so I know I have to figure out I have to finalize what my next rule changes are here before we do anything because you know I was already after last year to get rid of rule seven and move it into rule one and we have had something to talk about rule seven almost every damn week oh David are you didn't get to take uh the posters and stuff next time so next time there's a rehab con you gotta yeah I bring your post you gotta sign them we'll do it right the next time I'll be there hopefully yeah that's right yeah uh also uh since big brother is a 24

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1:23:17next uh so in addition there's more things that are coming out because I recorded a special podcast I sort of referenced it here with mike bloom at rahapkan that many of you have been asking for it is the long lost why jag would have lost podcast using my old notes that I wrote up at the time so look for that uh you will see us in a different setting we're sitting in a at a behind like a guest bar type thing uh just me and mike uh we had an audience the room wasn't very big but we had a few people there watching it live um so yeah watch for that uh you know I don't know the exact schedule but probably in a few days after this comes out and I've also been podcasting about the traders australia season three on the trade our podcast it's t-r-a-i-d-a-r where I'm co-hosting every other episode all season long and I'm going to be podcasting about the traders iorland also on the trade our podcast starting this week when I will be on for episode three so you can find all of my

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1:25:25discussion strategy drama all that kind of stuff make sure you check out those shows too yes yes all right well predictions uh so uh can i go first sure yeah david i don't i don't know what the thing is going to be the whole time i was sitting there watching the show sticking oh yeah they're having such a great time for hap con i was like how do i make a prediction when i don't even know what the what the mechanism is for the weekend so i don't even know who's going to be available to to win hoh whatever so i predicted that somebody gets screwed over by a twist and uh that is my only prediction for the week i don't know who's going to win hoh because i don't know who's going to get screwed over first yeah i had not thought to predict hoh following the screw over right um so but i did so here's the thing here's what i predicted uh i think the worst case scenario will happen again and in this case that means tail are going home oh i won't even say go at getting evicted see i told you it was the worst

1:26:27case scenario um i won't even say getting evicted because it's that's probably not getting evicted just like Rachel wasn't evicted it's going to be some stupid games you'll play stupid beginnings win stupid prizes um you know it'll be different from the hamster wheel but something you know like like he's a jousting or yeah um i just feel like she's going to end up on the short end of the stick which will suck if i'm right but since i'm predicting it i'm hoping it will be wrong i figure if you predict the worst then anything else that happens is better well you know the betting guys was saying rare early on that maybe it was yash who was going to be in danger so uh you know i don't not to base my prediction on council date but i'm just saying they get to say one thing those only reason the only reason we're not editing that out is those eyes actually changed before they started playing that comp so somehow someone decided that you know that that was going to happen before anything happened so um

1:27:30uh but uh yeah it's it's there's some weird stuff going on when i heard about the calcissi stuff i'm gonna get in on the bed and i'm sorry i know it's unethical but i look if they've been or stuff that's going to happen in the episodes and we got the feeds i don't know why we now on top of that why it's less less than a general to do i think that they i think that that was on who would win oh the the competition or the go for the season i think the season oh see that's what i'm saying i'm not really privy that's what i was like what they've been are they are they are they saying that yash is going to lose the challenge also on it because i don't know how you would know that um but again uh maybe i'll start looking at the betting gods before they especially wouldn't know it before the challenge even started right before we would know what the challenge was i mean very odd to do otherwise you would have it would have looked like it was inside your trading which is what i first thought it was until it was pointed out to me no these i his odds went down because or up whatever because so without so right right yeah who knows who knows so stay away from college don't just they don't deserve it um

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