BB28 Wednesday Live Feed Update September 2, 2026

0:00Music Every morning, tearing Armstrong's heart big brother looking at the stuff from yesterday All the drama, all the strategy and silliness from Theo to HOH Every single season, you know he is the reason you know what's happening Rob said that he could do it tomorrow. He will do it again Hello everyone and good morning Welcome to our live feed update for September 2nd I'm your host, Tanya Armstrong and I'm here today to update you on everything that happened yesterday The Big Brother 28 live feeds it was day 57 in the house

1:04And it was a slow-ish day But some interesting things going on including another vote flip A vote flip you might not have expected We had some barrett camera talks that were a bit interesting and of course more Drew and Melody being Drew and Melody And with me to talk through it all is Mike Hayden Mike I am ecstatic Teran, listen RHAP has gotten its flowers in so many ways over the course of this season But I feel like we got the ultimate gift in that bunch of us were coming back from Milwaukee So they decided to make this an easy breezy couple of days So the point where there's a plan that everyone can apparently get on board with Yes indeed indeed So as you all know Drew is the H.H.E nominated Lala Taylor and Yash Yash though won the veto took himself off the block and Drew replaced Yash with the volunteered Devons

2:09Devons now on the block He will be blindsided if he loses the blockbuster because Barrett has flipped and Barrett along with Yash Melody and whoever wins the blockbuster between Lala and Taylor in that event Will vote Devons out and he will be gone he does not know this yet That is the current state of things Of course there's more there Meaning that if you know say Devons were to win the blockbuster Current plan is for Lala to be the one that is evicted But that also hasn't really been discussed all that much It will be a little bit today and we do start the day with Lala talking to Angela about the two of them and how they are working together And you know what they might do next week And really just like further solidifying the idea that Angela should really want Lala to stay between Taylor and Lala

3:09And given that Angela at this point has no idea that Devons might go I'm surprised that there aren't more discussions about this vote considering this is what they believe to be the primary thing Yeah, when it comes to the crossover obviously there is a lot of discussion from an independent perspective as to this move and the actions this week And how much you know they're benefiting the individual versus the group Obviously Devons volunteering for tribute is the primary example of this but I feel like Angela's relationship with Lala is also a great point as well Where I think the general consensus is okay, especially if it's between Lala and Taylor take out Lala She's the bigger competition Brett hell she just spent the day starting off Well, everyone else was slumbering doing what like 40 minutes on the elliptical while she's giving this hybrid Motivational speech slash Peloton instruction video slash like dating profile as well as just how she wants to be a certain man's head of household she wants them to come home and she wants to rub his feet

4:11Making feel good at the end of the day, but Angela might not be making Lala feel good and yeah, this is always the crux of not only the arguments within But really social strategy games as a whole which is in this example Angela, I mean if Devons goes here and Angela and D are left a little rudderless Angela does have this tie to quote unquote the other side in the form of Lala and it seems like right now she is more so servicing the group mentality of okay Lala is the biggest threat to the crossover Even though not that Lala is necessarily the biggest threat to her game as opposed to Taylor Exactly. Yes. So this Lala vote will put a pen and it for now it is something that again we'll have a little bit of conversation about later, but I expect more of it to come today today being Wednesday the vote is a little more present in people's minds Barrett talks to the cameras. He has a couple of these conversations, but there's an early one that happens here. He says just to be clear if Devons is sitting on the block on Thursday I will be voting him out.

5:20It's almost as if he knows that there are people that doubt. Listen, he's looking in the camera right now and seeing all the straw men being like listen, I know I know what you mean I know what you're thinking right now I just want to let everybody know I know people were in monitoring Barrett understandably so when it comes to these super fans in general of like Tell us what you're thinking you know I think Corey were in burger was the peak example of what super fans should do in terms of letting us all in as to what you're thinking so Barrett has woken up in more ways than what not only a thing from a gameplay perspective but also from a transparency perspective and really letting us know at the jump Look, you know, I'm shooting the shit with Devons and Drew right now talking money ball talking about you know how much I love Cody Nixon but like don't you worry on the DL I'm going to vote him out. Yes, yeah, they're going to talk about all kinds of movies. And but he finds it exhausting talking to because there's like a nervous energy to devons he wants him gone he he says listen, is this the smart move?

6:32I don't know I think it actually might not be but I wouldn't be proud of my the game that I played if I just hosted along and got dragged along for the entire game letting the icons play the game for me if I got a bit of a sense of the game and I think I was going to sit at like the final five I was like the first crossover's member out like that I would hate that that would suck so much I would so much rather try to do something and fail then do nothing and sit around and maybe make it further. And this this is why we this is why we want super fans on this show like this it doesn't often manifest itself like this and when I say super fans I mean like he is like deep deep deep in this stuff he's talking about the fact that people have tracked recently that if you watch certain like big brother 23 and 15 minutes videos that bear it like compiled edited and narrated those type of things he is in deep folks.

7:32And like he's talking how he doesn't like it when there are returning players on which like I think people had been like showing clips of that prior to this and like look at this hypocrite I can't believe he's he's doing this after all the stuff he's doing that about not liking or thirding players and yes you know he did play himself into this corner he did throw the HOH that sent Mallory home he did roll over at every opportunity prior to this moment and no I do not believe for a second the argument that he was just biting his time waiting for the moment to come I think that he was sort of beaten into it that they pushed him one time too far and he was like all right screw it up. All right screw it I'm done with you then and this is where he is now and I like where he is now I do agree with him I raised similar concerns on the round table about exactly what he's talking about in his in his camera talk here that you know it is at the very least a risky maneuver but I do think it's a necessary one for him I think it's actually a better move than he even he seems to recognize.

8:44But this is just the first part of the conversation so we'll wait until he gets to the second part of his camera talk later in the day to go a little deeper into this the one other thing he says here in this first one is that he talks about how sus the icons are that like they were like oh we're not sure we can trust you before Devons went on the block and then as soon as Devons did go on the block they all came up to him like oh we trust you so much he's like I'm going to do it. I'm like Angela I love you but that was acting for a low budget movie and that's another reason why you cast super fans right is to use these people's most memeable moments against them to go back to the point that you said about bringing on super fans in general I mean I think we can stay at this point that not all super fans are created equal just as a reminder about how big of a fan Frenchie was just to show how far the spectrum. Frenchie brought it. Frenchie brought it exactly but I think that it goes to show how there are some people the Steve's and the Ian's of the world of which I think people were sort of assigning Barrett's gameplay to early on I'm like well he's attaching himself to the vets because maybe you know then he'll cut him at the last minute or they won't go for a vet in the end against him.

10:01And sometimes that is the prevalent gameplay based on historic precedent but I think as you mentioned this is a facet that can come with a bit of super fandom is like. He does say to certain point in his second camera talk like I hope people are liking this season like I think there's some dramatic stuff happening but he does tell Drew at one point I don't know people are liking this season as much as we are and not to say that you should be making these moves specifically for the sake of good TV I think that's another thing that has been talked about which is like. Listen you should just cut the check for a quarter of a million or three quarters of a million dollars and you know yeah your season gets a friend when people do their tier list that's totally fine the still 750 thousand dollars at the end of the day but I wonder if from Barrett's perspective not to say that he's not looking at himself winning the game because he is he laid out a couple of other options towards the end of his second camera talk but you do have to wonder at least this would be my you know war perspective that if you feel like the path to win is. The path to win is getting narrower and narrower would you want the path around you to be a dark black tunnel of a steamroll or what did you want to be a kaleidoscope of colorful patterns of unpredictability even if you don't necessarily reach the end of that cylinder and so I could see from Barrett's perspective a little bit not to mention of course factor and I think a little bit of emotions around the fact that he did feel like he felt hampered in the beginning when the icons and the tool shed were in power.

11:28There's even more so last week when they said hey not only is your number one or one of your closest people going on the block but we're also going to get rid of her and you can't really have a say in it whatsoever. Yeah and obviously there's a part of this that he's explaining that is like I want to do this because it's how I want my game to go and it's how I want the season to go but you know obviously this is all in part of it's all part of the game that's being played as well. He's also just pissed at them like that is another major aspect of this it's not just that he like wants to do it for TV it's that they've pissed him off. He's still so upset about the Mallory thing and so he wants them to go down he thinks the game would be more fun without them and and in general I think again like this does actually make a good deal. He's really making a good amount of sense for his game especially because it gives him options moving forward and it's the kind of move that you know I think that people advocate for all the time which is take the game into your own hands stop sitting around and letting it happen around you which is exactly what he had been doing to this point and it got him a Mallory eviction which is a much worse position than he should have been coming into this week and so here he goes.

12:52Yeah let's also say again we cannot state this enough this does not obfuscate whatsoever the stuff that bear had been doing for the first month and a half in the house I totally agree with you Tara and that this is not going to be when when if the animal makes his inevitable bear it video I don't think we're necessarily going to be looking back on this whole thing with the rose colored sunglasses that he tends to wear while he's in the house again if he was committed to being this Ramora to the you know. Cool of sharks that was the vets he've latched on way way way more than he necessarily needed to so it's not to say that we feel like oh my god he is this master level player and now he's finally making the move he knew he was going to make if anything for me when it comes to this decision I often talk about moves in the social strategy games is falling into one of two camps either moves to get you further or moves to win and in this first camera talk. There it out right says do I think melody and y'all she gonna take me to the end no probably not to me this more so defines a move to win and move to make it further concerned he quite literally said I could look at an easy spot at fifth place right now but I'd rather.

14:03SQ that with the prospect of aiming just a smidge higher than going out in the penalty week. And the thing is that I don't think he is in fifth place with his current standing I think he is overconfident in that I don't think that sticking with the crossover means he gets fifth place in any in any sense I think that he's actually probably targeted quite soon but either way to your point here about like. The change in barrett's game he talks to drew after this and i'm gonna skip forward in the conversation a little bit just more relevant here but i drew asks bear it like are you proud of the game that you play. And bear it says well i mean it's gotten me this far but i can see that on the tv show it's probably you know the crossovers which are the icons and then and then these two mother fuckers. I you know like the vote flip to save melody i didn't do that shit taking calm well i didn't do that shit taking chuck out i didn't do that shit taking hailey out i mean maybe i did a little bit of that shit we haven't seen it quite yet but he was also put in that situation by the other people as well he didn't say throw me in and i'll take out hailey.

15:18Yes and so i so drew is like well you know what it's time to turn it on now just like Morgan did. And that is that is exactly sort of the situation that we are in right like bear it feels like it is time to turn it on and we have seen that happen plenty of times like there is especially having just hit the jury there's still like. Well almost 40 days left in this season maybe a little over 30 now i there's still so much time. To completely change your game and completely change the narrative and and that i think is what bear it is trying to do which i think is is very fun. In this conversation with drew they also talk about he asks drew like you know what's what do you think is the play moving forward drew says well ideally lala goes this week then like gosh next week and Taylor. And it's like well then then melody i guess.

16:24They talk about bringing melody like keeping keeping her safe but what does that mean it's again it's like i feel like. Both of them are afraid of saying too much to one another about. Whether or not they're actually loyal drew even ask like do you still think that the devins route is the best way to go. And and bear it's like i don't know i don't see any other route we have which is obviously a lie plans to vote to get that ends out. And you're like i don't know i just think you probably also as a deal with angel and d right it's like it's clear that drew. Is really probing here is like i mean i guess but i you know i don't think he hangs out with them as much as he does us so it wouldn't surprise me if we were his priority or maybe he just thinks he can beat us. And so you know it it's giving. Drew wouldn't be that upset maybe. About devins leaving now i don't know that he wants to leave right now i think drew is probably on the other side of the equation when it comes to.

17:27I think that yash taylor and la la. Or bigger threats to my game then then devins right now but you know it's it's just it's interesting watching them talk around this whole subject. And talk around each other as well because as we remember bear it even though he has the biggest acts to grind against the icons i think he has a little bit of a hatchet to grind against true also considering the fact that bear it was more than happy to vote out drew. Last week as well and i think it's tough to really reverse course on those opinions yet the melody point was also really interesting because it felt like drew is definitely trying to cast a lure. Out to be like would you put up melody i think he's trying to truly figure out like how much is fact effed. And or how much like does he really have to be the baby of the icons as he was saying in the fact that there was a giving him much again as you said you know there's a little less than a month left and things could change especially if devins goes. But it feels like the jugulars are a bit up in the air in terms of their dynamic right now and that might be even more so at the end of this week.

18:31Yes. So that's it's an interesting conversation happening between bear it and drew in the meantime d is downstairs and she's talking to the cameras. She's kind of like chilling in bed she's kind of under the covers and she's like. i'm thinking about it. What is she what is she thinking about. She says you know. When it was my age of age and allery was going up. He was the good guy he and he and he told me about it right he told me about it which I appreciate but he made a joke the other day that was like. Did you guys forget about what happened last week. And i'm like in that moment i can't even defend myself because they think i'm the selfish one and i'm taking the bullet. For all i know he has a final three with them which would be a good move for him because i know i'd vote for devins over them. So i don't know it's got me thinking.

19:31Maybe i vote devins out. Oh now okay let's play devils advocate here shall we Terry because this will be obviously a topic gets broached in a much larger capacity with Angela later on. So i do feel like d has had some comments about how she felt like barrett's behavior has also been a little off i think she makes a comment today that like. He's basically up in the gym the entire day she doesn't necessarily interact with him and so. Maybe she's feeling the writing on the wall a little bit and is like if devins stays on the block. Barrett might have the compulsion to flip and so i want to hop on that train and. As you mentioned before creator rationalization behind it. But if de via dara's votes out the man who saved her with the diamond power of veto two weeks ago because of a bad joke he made. But that not be the most quintessential Rick devins ending possible that the man who is mister jokie dad for the vast majority of this game gets undone.

20:39Because his allies didn't like a joke that he made it's very reminiscent of drew who also got into hot water early on when people were like. He's making too many jokes about turning on us i think he's actually going to do so maybe the lesson is taran. You want to be as a sober as a t-toler here throw some jokes in but don't go full jester. Well i i think what i would say to that is that i don't think it was the joke i think the joke is the excuse i think the joke is like. Because the joke was nothing we know that devins has zero intention of like using the boys to go against d and angel we know that devins has said to the cameras that he plans to go to the end with d. Well d has said the opposite the whole time i think that. You know yes the day before when she was talking to the cameras and she was like they would be idiots to not vote devins out i think it's because she was kind of wanting devins out and i think she just in general sees that devins has the position that she would ideally want to be a now remember how d one survivor is that she was in the devins spot.

21:55She was at the center of her group and she manages to run down to the end with that group in that spot she knows and sees the devins is in that spot right now he has. Barrett and drew she had to burn them both in the previous now i say had she burned them both in the previous week while devins got to play good guy and now devins is sitting firmly at the center of their their alliance. And again if this were survivor. You would have to do something about that at some point because you might not get another chance if you know if the numbers play out the way they are and now that she's playing big brother it's like well this is potentially my opportunity right like he's on the block i might need to take this shot. And so i think the joke is just like one little cherry stacked on top of all of these other things that she's thinking about and a good reason we know d loves her reasons almost as much as vinesa does.

22:57To to to make this move actually happen and so she's thinking about this now. Is just talking to cameras right now this is kind of a wild move will have to wait and see if it actually seems to stick at all and in the meantime. Barrett's talking to the cameras some more so let's talk more about barrett who just continues to talk about how the icons have had it too easy in the game he wouldn't be happy with the season if you let them run it all the way to the end the game would be more fun with at least one less icon in it. And you know devins is trying to bluff like he's like oh nobody's going to vote for anybody that flips to that I say. bullshit alright buddy sure i'd like to see you hold to that i'd like to see you vote for a la la over me come on. Yeah i mean i think you talk about him seeing what the fans are possibly saying through the camera maybe he was also looking ahead to the stock watch range and it's like listen.

23:59I know there's been a lot of wacky popularity ratings this week let me try to jockey for number one here by calling out the threat that devins made as recent as right before the veto ceremony. Of we're not going to vote for the person who does this I do feel like and turn on you made this comparison before before d ends up formally making this decision down the line. I was getting so many flashbacks to one. For two this morning when i was watching big brother canada ten and a gummy bear was drawn in terms of how this all turns out of devins. In a safe position not needing to volunteer himself for the metaphoric draw but he decides to put himself in there and then as soon as he gets drawn. You know you have Marty being like okay but we're all locking this in right let's all look to the camera and do a group photo to prove. That this is not going to be picks taken moments before disaster and i believe quite literally the crossroads did this a couple of days ago as well so before.

25:00This becomes more of a group activity as bear is espousing this more all i am thinking is that this guy. Is giving himself shades of Kevin Jacobs and Helena combined in. More than willing and able to say hey yeah thank you for doing this for us. But there is no charitable action that can truly exist altruism is not a thing in these types of games. This is way worse than the gummy bear situation i mean like uh Kevin came up with the gummy bear to keep himself off the block right. I devins just fully devins didn't volunteer for a one in like four or five chance right like devins was just like nah it's just gonna be me. He took all the gummy bears out yeah this is pooch you know what i mean devins is pooching himself um so. So he's so bear it's talking to the camera he says he does not believe in this bluff that that devins is saying that he's not going to vote for anybody that flips.

26:03And and i do think he might be underestimating it and again this is why it's like if you're devins and. You want to be able to bluff like this you actually do kind of have to follow through with the bluff if you're going to play multiple seasons um but. Given the fact that D is already thinking clearly about potentially making this move i he's probably he's probably right that like he's not going to lose three or four votes uh if he makes this decision. He does think that he can beat drew. Taylor and Lala in a final two situation all three of those people he feels good about beating and i think as of right now he's probably in a decent place with them although drew i'd actually worry about a little bit more. He hopes this season has been fun to watch he does though worry about melody uh he thinks he has her more than drew. But she could be playing him it would not surprise him if malady were playing him now i think that he's right i think he does have her more than drew does.

27:13Um but i think that his suspicion is also right in the sense that not that not in the sense that she's playing him right now or has been but in the sense that like. Melody will i think eventually choose drew over barrett i think like just the trajectory of their relationship and the diminishing uh uh sort of barriers between them in the game if devins is gone especially i think that like they will eventually link up and be you know drew in melody more than barrett and melody for as much. Good work that that that that that that barrett's done with her so while i don't think he's right to suspect her in the past like leading up to this moment i do think he should be worried about her in the future. Barrett as a super fan should know never underestimate the connection of a showman's and for as much as they have this like love hate relationship.

28:17They are they are showman's you know what i mean like that's they're there yeah there are showman's uh i would say not a name only like in name excluding maybe barrett is seeing shades of another drew uh drew in dya and from big brother five. He compared them himself and her to that the. Yeah because i mean like drew was with the four horsemen before they fell like the two of them were on largely opposite sides of the house until around this time when they started working together. And more ways than one so maybe barrett is is looking towards that he also mentions yosh which i think is also something to be cognizant of as well in that. Yosh is a threat to him for a couple of reasons a the fact that he is the biggest competition threat and this is a time of the game where. You know you can make all the plans like it shot the sunshine when somebody wins a veto or an h oh h but also the bright this idea that because yosh cannot put up the icons and i believe. Tiffany confirmed on the heavy crown podcast recently because i think when she was in the house she asked production.

29:22If yosh is bright held even if someone like the was evicted if the head vampire was killed as he mentioned she said production said. The deal is final no matter what so even if d is out of the house this deal is going to pull through no matter what number of icons are left when and yeah when yosh is h oh h and so barrett. Seeks out like hey even if i flip on the icons here yosh wins h oh wait there's only a select number of people that can go up i might be. Right though so barrett of course does not know that yosh can't put up angela or devins i was wondering about that about what information is public at this point. Barrett only knows that yosh cannot put up the. So that but either way he does feel like it's a little bit of a thorny situation the fact that he is forbidden to nominate somebody especially since we are coming into the final eight and so. He is at least aware of the fact that it's not going to be a i'm flipping on the icons and then i'm not going to work with them whatsoever he was actively talking about trying to do a little bit of like a pendulum situation of.

30:30I'll take out an icon then maybe i'll move ahead with the angel and take out a yosh which is good on paper these strategies are much easier and more effective to do on a show like survivor where people wheel less individual power through competitions but i am glad he vocalized it at least because it's something that's palpable to us as well. Yeah i mean i guess i guess it i mean listen the the the breaking of the curse by voting out d is a fun thought i do see some logic in why it wouldn't work that way. What if d is on the block and she uses the bribe for a little future action for an ally instead of for herself and then she gets evicted in the idli it then holds for the ally she made it for something along those lines. Not to mention the fact that like it is it is a bribe and not a curse but you know it is what it is but but before barrett talks about yosh he continues on about melody and something that i thought was kind of interesting. He mentions because he's talking about how he thinks he can be true Taylor and lull and people in the chat were even like well what about melody why why wouldn't you want us to next melody he says that.

31:42Despite his misgivings that may be melody might be playing him i he would certainly vote for melody in a final two. That he thinks that she's played well and he likes her a lot and and he thinks that she's what one of the primary people he would vote for in a final two her and yosh and if honestly if it were a melody and yosh final two he'd be pretty happy like if it were to be anybody but him. Those two I guess or he's essentially saying or like is to primary option my god that would be the ultimate battle of online fandom Twitter's favor versus blue skies fave like. I don't know who takes home the victory there more importantly who loses. Well he does say that he he thinks that yosh would beat anybody it would be cool to be in the final two with yosh but he probably lose and that as you mentioned Mike Lee's like I do think you know yosh might just win out from here and at that point you just have to give it to him you know.

32:47So he doesn't really know how to maneuver his game forward and this is exactly again what I talked about on the round table Monday night which is like what is Barrett's plan from here I don't know if he has one and he's saying in this camera talk I don't really have one i'm not sure where to go from here you know like yosh is probably going to be tough to take out. And I know I'm not yosh is priority but I'm also not yosh is target which is kind of true but again he doesn't know the extent to which yosh can't nominate icons. So he talks about next week and he's like so if you know if devons leaves and I win hoh I nominate d and Angela under the assumption that there's no blockbuster which I think there will be. But they're all hoping there won't be even though they are assuming the other watch last season but if I need a renom. Do I just target yosh at that point.

33:48Maybe I don't know and so clearly as he's thinking forward he's starting to recognize that yes he would probably need to target yosh as soon as next week if he had the ability to. But he's still not sure about it and and so you know it's interesting to see the thought process but but we know that it's likely going to be a blockbuster anyway and and so who would be his third nominee of them and would he even target the. And Angela at all once he has more time to think through what his options are that's a whole other story but but interesting to see the thought process here from Barrett and that he is at least a little bit thinking I think in the correct terms which is. If you do get out devons you probably need to look at yosh next and then probably back to Angela and the. As you said Mike probably having having to pendulum a bit here yeah and I think again that I don't know I can't really think of many people in an end game a big brother who do that I think the of the big brother 15s when it's like okay the exterminators lock in and then they run things until the end of the game I can't really think of many examples where one person's like i've got threats on both sides let me try to carefully prune it you know like you're you're trimming the the leaves on a bonsai tree I don't necessarily.

35:14No, Barrett has that green thumb necessarily but as you mentioned i'm just appreciative that people are vocalizing their end game plans i'm curious because again he's talking about winter equity here who do you think like regardless of the results this week or what may be coming if right now the finale were to be held who has the highest win equity amongst the people who are on the jury right now I do think it's devons I think I think that if they all had to vote for the. They all had to vote right now I think devons would win but I think that yash would have a good chance and. After that. I don't know i think yash and devons are the top two though yeah I mean if I were to do like a quick list of probably I would agree like devons yash. Maybe D after that yeah. Then maybe I mean I guess the melody is going to tell drew later on that she feels like if an icons in the final two they're going to win no matter what but I feel like there would be a size of a gap between like d and Angela.

36:22I mean it's tough because you don't know how they got there and you don't know who they're sitting next to you know like. Yeah it's it's just tough I mean I melody would apparently have both Barrett and probably drew against anybody maybe maybe not against yash or. Devons depends it's you know it's tough it's tough to go down the list too far because you really start to run into some problems but I think. I think that devons is probably the guy that if he sits next to anybody in a final two he wins he has. I think at the at the very least three votes in d and jela and drew and then he just needs one more from anybody that's willing to give it to him. Any probably has that that fourth vote if not if not more but but if he's sitting next to the you know if you say next any of those three I think he gets the votes against them also so. So yeah but with devons gone I do think it becomes yash I think yash is just the primary front runner for sure especially because he's also likely to win a bunch more comps moving forward so.

37:31I'm. Interesting to think about is that way devons is so flighty there's been so many comments today as well as again one of the many 13 reasons why these is thinking about devons right now it's like he's been acting different he's nervous he's jumpy have you observed that behavior as well or is this more so confirmation bias projected onto devons. The there is I mean he's mostly the same but there is like a tinge of. Desperation to like he's having these conversations with people he's talking about movies with bear it and it's just like. He's lacking the the very like relaxed dad feel where he feels comfortable like giving them shit instead it's a little bit more like. Like he but you like me though right like it's a little more desperate it's a little more please don't vote me out.

38:34And and I think that that's coming across because he's hasn't been on the block to this point and he's been in such a position of power. So and not to answer the fact that like it's not just necessarily him that changes his behavior it's everyone else that changes their behavior he's now on the block and they're all thinking about potentially voting him out. And so the way they interact with him changes and he likely responds to that change and then they see it as him changing when really it's also them changing how they act and react to him it's a pretty classic just case of people being on the block. Especially if you're not used to it speaking of though. He does go and talk to Angela and they start talking about how you know what the boys going to flip on devons. Well. What if we flipped on devons and just like well. I did think about this too. Not us being bad again.

39:38He's like well here's what I'm thinking and then they get interrupted and the cameras come back later and and Angela's a D's clearly explain the idea a bit and Angela's talking through it and she's like yeah he's it's not how he played survivor but if we're both feeling this way and D's like yeah and this is he made this joke. The other day about don't forget about last week and they've clearly talked through all of why they're feeling a little sust out on devons and she says D says the plan could be listen is what I'm thinking. One of us secretly votes out devons makes it four to two then we blame the vote on bear it. This doesn't this needs to happen. Terran I love me some Rick devons but he needs to lose this blockbuster now even more than 24 hours prior because the pure comedy bears let's like let's blueprint this right now if this vote ends up happening.

40:40If D and Angela purposely split their votes to try to blame it on bear it they think it would be four to two instead it would be five to one. Lala Taylor bear it and yosh would all be blindsided because they thought it would be four to two and the icons would vote to keep devons. D and Angela would be blindsided because they certainly thought bear it was going to vote with Angela Lewis as a one point like. Barrett's too kind to vote out devons not knowing that once again conspiring is happening in the gym to possibly enter game the one person who is left out of all of this. Is the H oh H drew has no idea that anybody is talking about devons the pure irony of this situation Terran is that of everyone in the crossovers the only person who is not aware of the crossover upon crossover violence that is about to happen from all sides. Is the man who has been suspected for the first month of the game of being the most against the very alliance that is about to leave him in the dark.

41:47Yeah, all those people for the first month of the game that were like no D and Angela are right about drew. Are very wrong they were very wrong very very wrong drew is literally the only person left that is loyal to this alliance. But yes, the plan that D proposes would be one of them secretly flipped they blame it on Barrett it's a terrible idea it makes no sense who are you blaming Barrett for devons is gone. You just you just flip the vote against yourself and then lied about being in the minority that's what Mallory and Mallody were proposing that the week before at least which was also a terrible idea but at least they had. Some sort of side to be appeasing in the yosh side of things by by flipping and claiming and all of that stuff but but in this case.

42:49There's no side left to appease if you're blaming Barrett Barrett's like the only one that would be mad. You're blaming Barrett to be like Barrett we didn't flip against you you flipped against you like you did it don't you remember the only other vote it's like it's like momentum you had to dissociate of moment it was actually you that did it you just didn't realize I mean. This isn't even too cute by half I'm going full LJ from survivor this is too hot by half this is absolutely ridiculous you do not make hinky votes happen or try to blame it on other people at the final nine when there are six people voted you can. Certainly worked for Andy but you know it says specific scenarios you know what I mean it's not working this specific one. The big brother 15 castes a unicorn in and of itself or maybe good and and not so good reasons, I mean this is just even just the idea of turning on devins here and look again i'll go back to the point that I've seen before and I can understand of her.

43:53If she feels like the writing is on the wall okay let me try to join the tide right now against Evans to try to appease myself to the other side and this is an attitude she've been talking about before where she's like. If I'm blindsided in this vote i'm totally going over to the other side to which I say. What other side this is certainly not relationships that you have been cultivating for the past few weeks are you going to lean upon the ram shackle. Lemon of a car that is the honor society at this point of like oh yeah i'm done with the cross over is a honor society to the end right I don't think that he has necessarily put in the work specifically with. The yash lala Taylor contingent that she feels like hey everybody i'm glad we all got together to get out devins right we're all for one one for all towards the end screw drew. Am I right they're not going to forget everything that has happened over the course of the past seven weeks. The plan is to not do that the plan is to be like no we did vote against what you wanted even though they didn't.

44:54It's i mean it's speaking of the andy thing it would be like if andy. Had had planned to blame McCray for voting out Amanda and then at McCray wins the. Not I wasn't me it wasn't me I swear it was you McCray. Like how is that going to work what do you mean like okay you can say you can maybe say. Well they don't want they don't want devins to be better in the jury they need to pretend like they didn't do it. What do you think is going to happen you think that it's going to go to the jury and be like yeah. They blamed it on me. And it was me. I didn't I said he's he's going to say no I didn't and i'm in the jury i have no reason to lie like this is not a thing you can get away with This is a ridiculous plan and Angela no to Angela realizes this she's like no I don't think this I don't think this makes any sense i'm going to be put on the spot for this I don't like it. I don't want to lie down please don't make me do this.

45:56These like well I do worry like is it maybe too early I just I don't know I think that yash Taylor and Lala would still be after drew not us and obviously yash can't even target us at all. So I think it could make sense and honest honestly we should also kind of think about. Should we have it Taylor over Lala. Like I think you could pull all of from the other side and it's like okay okay here we go now we're talking about something a little more realistic. And so they talk a little bit about that that conversation we're going to put a pin in it for now i'm sure they're going to come back to it later. But but this but this devins play they don't they don't want to do the silly blame bear it thing anymore like that's that's that's a bad move. So they do it at all like can they get away with it like what if bear it is evicting him anyway like that could be that could be happening it is. So maybe they should talk to bear it well they can't just ask him out right then he'll know that what they're in what they're thinking so.

46:58You know what i don't know he says listen my intuition is telling me. Voters Evans it's telling me we need to and and they ultimately angel says okay i'm down and the plan becomes for now they're both just going to vote out devins. A unanimous vote against the person who volunteered for the block this season is special in so many ways taren i mean. I i again these logic when you look into her brain i truly think she's falling victim to something that happens with a lot of people in these types of games which is. operating under the the assumption of a prisoner's dilemma of the well if devins if i was devins i would take me out before the end and i would go to the end with drew and bear it but the fundamental misunderstanding that comes from these games is that not everyone thinks the same way.

48:00As you i think d feels like she is playing in a house of d's and she certainly is not and so she feels like i gotta get them before they get me what as you mentioned. Devins does not want to get her anytime soon and maybe this is again something she had fermenting in her head for a while she did do that cam talk last week when she confirmed she's not going to the end with with Angela and devins but. That's the thing we talk about new era survivor being a game of timing big brother is that on steroids and. Taking out this guy at the final nine I don't think it even matters like. You know always gonna be a bit or not that's neither here nor there is actively taking out somebody who would have gone to the end with you one of your most you know worthy assets and you are selling it off right now for pennies on the dollar. Yeah i to be clear this is a terrible idea it's a terrible move it's a terrible mystery on devins in his place in the game i.

49:02However i think all of that goes unsaid but we've said it plenty already however there is something interesting to look at here when it comes to the reality of the situation a reality that is unknown to them. And not a part of their decision making but the fact is devins is going to be voted out regardless. And so the reality of the situation is that if the an angel of do flip and this becomes a unanimous vote it does kind of change the calculation a little bit and it might actually be a net positive for them because. They have already talked about like the different things they might say to explain their vote away and this whole notion of like. You know we need to take out the icons because they're a united force if they end up voting devins out it's like well they weren't a united force i guess. And you know and also it kind of it kind of takes the move away from bear it a little bit like oh yeah it's not bear it's move anymore it if anything there everyone's more surprise that d and an angel did it and it might be looked at as angel and these move.

50:12And that might be good for bear in the short term maybe because maybe they do look at them like oh they're so crutt they're they're making these moves they are locked in together it was angel and the whole time. Or it's like oh maybe they weren't as much of our enemies as we thought like maybe for somebody like la la who always wanted to work with the an angel and didn't want to work with devins is like oh you really were with me you really were willing to take the events out. There are a lot of different sort of options here there are different sort of possibilities for what implications this might have on the rest of the house moving forward especially when it comes to like. Drew and like where does Drew stand in all of it because there's absolutely a world where. I think that. They can say to to both drew and bear it like hey devins was not loyal to you guys we thought he was playing both sides between us and you. And and we wanted to make this move in bear it clearly you thought the same and and this is the key part of it right because bear it right now is already thinking about maybe next week I need to be looking at yosh.

51:20But the the thing kind of getting in the way of that is he's going to make this massive move against the an angel that they'll be so pissed about but if they end up on the on the same side of the vote. There's a lot less reason for him to finish the job with the icons a lot more reason to start looking at the other side again so for as much as a as this is a I again a terrible idea in my opinion for D and Angela to do if bear it were still with them it actually might work out for them because he's not. Yeah I think it's a good point to make that if it feels like whether intentional or not the idea that this is not necessarily bear its move can help a lot I think that removes a possible point that bear it couldn't make in a final two speech I could also see a world where. The way it comes across to the Lala Taylor Yashima Melody contingent is like. There it said he wasn't with the icons but how do you think angel and D found out about the vote this guy bear at his added again he just was against Evans but he's still working with the two of them if you loop them in on all of this.

52:31Right yeah there's just there's a lot of different you know there's so many different ways this could play out. I and it's it's very interesting to see how how many of the and it's it would be very very funny if true is like getting ready for us for a tie three to three vote getting ready to stand up there and save devins and then it's. By a vote of six to zero. In which everyone is blindsided in some way shape or form every single person in that house would have no idea how that happened. So I Taylor talk to bear it while D and Angela were talking she's wondering if she has the votes against Lala he's telling her as far as he's aware the plan is to vote out Lala if devins wins again this is true but we were just listening to D and Angela talk about potentially the reverse so we're going to pay attention especially to Taylor and Lala and D and Angela when it comes to this particular vote especially today here on Wednesday.

53:35Taylor has always been good about campaigning on the block and making sure she has votes she has. She has never gone into Thursday night on the block in a spot where she was in any danger. Yeah but here according to Chuck you couldn't get advice from Taylor about surviving no. No, no, no, of course not that that would be that would be ridiculous and I know what I don't even have any idea which one which one of my chops down by it's our. There's so many to pick between. I just you know I got to find I am buffooned but. Not quite so I so it'll I think Taylor will be on top of this she will be making sure her votes are locked in and. But again it makes a lot of sense for for certainly Angela and. Potentially D to to want Taylor out over Lala because they could potentially pull Lala in a little bit so stay stay tuned for that.

54:40Drew and Melody then basically spend the rest of the night together and it's like a lot of time because everyone else is going to bed relatively early. It's worth pointing out drew throughout the day is so tired yeah you know this is not quite Morgan and Vince levels like up until 6 a.m. But they're up until like 3 a.m. Almost every single night and Drew is like literally falling asleep and that conversation where he was talking to bear it about do you know like. Are you proud of your game and all that stuff. He falls asleep during that conversation like in the middle of not a great time for bear it is well being like this guy can't even stay awake when I'm trying to talk game with him. He really can't the guy looks ragged and like even worse than I do right now it's just saying a lot. So he's very tired but they're spending so much extra time awake like everyone's in bed by like 10 11 o'clock.

55:43And then they're spending another 4 to 5 hours just like hanging out together and being in falling asleep at points during their conversations. And so they stay up very late they talk about various things lots of you know obviously personal things but a little bit of game thrown in here and there as well. Including Mikey brought this up the melody says you know she's just like saying opinions she says I think an icon that makes it to the end wins automatically and Drew who has previously said he does not agree with this says unfortunately I agree. But it could be the opposite and she says no everyone I've talked to has said has said that even Taylor he's like yeah okay. So this is a I think a read that Drew had for a while in the game we've already I've mentioned that it felt like he'd been sort of turning away from that thought process. I think this is even more confirmation that instead of just immediately disagreeing he says actually unfortunately I think I agree with that.

56:50Even though he still holds out hope that it's not true and then she says I've talked to people they've said that and he's like okay. So Drew now I think knows this even more at least a little bit more. And and then they continue they get very, very flirty. There's a lot of like subtle or not subtle sort of like asks for things. I thought was the train that hit Becky from baby 17 in terms of these stairs. It's there's certainly stairs there's arm writing there's mimeing of things like you know what do you think maybe not on camera kind of vibes. And they talk about how Lala made this comment about how she's going to stay up in the HOH room overnight and she was like no I don't do that I haven't done that. But now she kind of like wants to stay and he's like oh I don't know if that's like a good idea.

57:54I think that it's not the right move for the game and she's like oh it's your forcing me to leave and he's like no it's just I don't know if it's the right move for the game. She's like okay he's kicking me I'm just gonna tell them I stayed the night up here anyway and he's like no and they're you know they're playing around but it's yeah it's a whole thing. Yeah I'm surprised the big brother twitter account was a putting out calls for Melodru fan fiction instead of truvans fan fiction I mean I guess for either the sake of our senior insanity if melody wins HOH next week not to say we're going full mince right now but we could see a situation where these conversations continue when you have the privacy of this bedroom we only have what two more nights of Drew's tenure right now in the HOH room if the two of them continue to stay up there I have no idea. Where this is going to go truly if another seven days are added onto this day. Yeah I mean it's it's a lot of the same but it definitely progresses night by night bit by bit and it's again it's exactly why I was saying what I was saying earlier with Barrett like I do think that despite the fact that Barrett has certainly won her over in the game more than Drew and she's still quite annoyed with Drew and continue like the amount of times she's

59:15had managed him for voting out Mallory is just through the roof at this point but I think over time as they get closer as the game reasons to not be working with each other continue to diminish I think that this will continue to become a thing and they could become dangerous if melody starts actually winning things which she's come close a couple of times now to we could start to look at Drew and Melody as a big threat moving forward in the game especially if people like Barrett are actually willing to vote for her in a final two you know you've got Yash is it like a sort of solo comp threat not that he's solo he's got Lala and Taylor you've got the icons but we've also seen show man says comp the way to the end these two haven't shown that much capability but always have to be worried about a show man's this deep so something to look out for as well. Yeah absolutely there they're not going deep in one way but they may go deep in the competition depending on how things are going.

1:00:23So that's about what I've got for you today Mike anything else you wanted to bring up from yesterday too quick pieces of thought here, and that I want to bring up one of them being something that I brought up a couple of days ago I did some compilation of stats about the last people to get nominated every season on big brother and what is interesting is that big brother 28 of course last person nominated was devins at the final nine that is the second earliest round in big brother history the first is big brother 24 those were extenuating circumstances of course the bestie bestie twist created an unnatural diversity in nominees early on and I'd say there aren't special circumstances here in terms of you know obviously the blockbuster creating a third nominee every week the diamond power of video I don't know if even if comma was still in the game of pb up at this point but I'm curious from your perspective. What does that say about this season that already at the final nine all 17 people have seen the block at some point.

1:01:26I mean I think it's I think it does speak largely to the blockbuster and how many nominees the blockbuster produces and how often the blockbuster encourages the veto to be used. But I think another thing about the season that has been very very nice that we haven't talked a lot about yet is the diversity in hoh winners. There's only been one repeat hoh winner and the entire season so far we are in on week eight and every single hoh has been a different person and that speaks very highly to the competition spread and the competitor you know the contestant the cast that they picked. It's you know Lala winning the wall drew winning this quiz comma winning a quiz yash winning his competition devins like everybody almost everybody is one in hoh at this point only Taylor and I and melody now and I guess Angela hasn't won this season yet she just won the blockbuster so three people of the final nine of not one yet but

1:02:37but almost every other hoh has been the same and if Mallory or Barrett hadn't thrown the balance beam then there wouldn't have even been a repeat hoh that week so I think that's a huge huge component of it and even though we have seen one alliance in one group largely stay in power through all of these hoh wins. I think that that's largely because of the power of you know helped save them and number two like they haven't really been able to hold on to this power very much devins about to potentially be evicted and you know there has been an interesting sort of mix of back and forth and and sort of shifting targets so I think it's been I think it's been interesting I know that you know it was certainly with the stock wash ratings that was really interesting. We do people are relatively down I think on the season but I do think it's been quite interesting and I think that if it weren't for sort of like the stink of the the vets and the diamond power veto and the dumb medieval twist I think we'd probably be looking at the season a little more favorably in terms of just like the spread and evenness of competition wins and targets and all kinds of stuff like that.

1:04:01I think that's very astutely put completely agree the other thing I want to ask is let's say that we don't get the outcome that we deserve as BB fans and devins wins the blockbuster how much toothpaste can be put back in the tube at this point do you think that Dean Angela specifically would still lock in with him or are the paranoid thoughts building enough in their heads to make them feel like he's got to get cut sooner rather later. I think it depends on who wins HOH but but I think that I think the toothpaste does go back into the do I think bear it pretends I think they pretend I think nobody bear it doesn't know that they were going to do it they don't know that bear it was going to do it and devins doesn't know that either one of them was going to do it. However, if they managed to take out one of Taylor or Lala she of course would that of course would like encourage them to potentially make a move even sooner if they were to win an HOH I could see devins being like a backdoor option for them let's say if D1 another HOH she nominates you know yosh and whoever remains of Lala and Taylor and then melody.

1:05:15We need a replacement nominee one of them is one the video. Are we taking out melody maybe she's connected to Drew that that could certainly be an option are we taking out Lala or Taylor probably not at that point we've already taken out one of Lala or Taylor we don't need to take out the other. If yosh is available maybe but he can't nominate us. And who's the replacement is it Drew just to make sure that melody goes is it bear it because we don't trust him as much or do we take the shot at devins you know I don't think they would I think they'd consider it but I think that with the blockbuster they'd be a little worried to put devins up directly against his will and he would probably say hey I just volunteered don't stick me up there. So my guess would be no but but the fact that people came so close to getting it done I think they will want to have it done at some point but a long answer short here I think the toothpaste goes back in the tube.

1:06:15Well I think what devins really needs to do right now is follow the drew path of if he does get nominated he then has to tell off bear it and drew at the nomination ceremony so these like you're on our side I totally get it now you're not the target so just rinse and repeat devins come on you know the script at this point yeah. All right well that is what we have for you then today thank you all so much for joining us of course I'll be back tomorrow morning tomorrow morning I we might actually be at noon eastern we are talking to Haley in the morning so I believe we will need to be pushing the update to the normal Friday time so keep that in mind but but in the meantime check out my patreon I watched the love I'm going to be on the next day. I was in the island reunion yesterday and posted on there. It was a mistake. Nobody needed to watch that but you could watch me watch it in misery so you could try that.

1:07:20And then we've got an episode tonight I'll be live on patreon twitch and YouTube watching it tonight and there'll be a podcast here afterward as well so stay tuned for that Mike what are you going on? I'm going to be here one big brother related one not I'll start with the more diverted path first survivor 51 just released its cast last week I did not do preceding interviews this time around so I am trying to piece things together on my end by myself and Rob are doing weekly cast previews I actually think at the time this is being released in about less than an hour one PM Eastern the first of our three cast previews will be dropping where I try to pull my own you know do my best big brother superfan. Superfan role and scour the internet for these people's profiles to see how much we can find out about them so feel free to check that out but you want to get hyped on survivor which is coming back actually a bear it shouted out Daniel Kilby who is one of the contestants on survivor 51 yesterday I don't know if he thought he was spoiling it but luckily his identity has already been revealed but the big brother stuff that I will tease is that of course Karen as you mentioned will both have an interview with Haley tomorrow morning will finally get to see the demise of the

1:08:32dog tonight in the two hour episode I will be very intrigued to get some of her thoughts on everything the many hard weeks she had in the house and then of course we'll be doing egg to press for the jury and I'll put this out online as well but just as sort of like a disclaimer on behalf of myself Terran Rob Sharon Thorpe Dalton Ross people who do egg to press in general if you don't know exit press for the jury works a little differently than pre jury in pre jury we talk to them quote unquote face to face over zoom or we're able to talk to them a bit about stuff they did not know we do exit press with the jury under the express disclaimer that we are not allowed to ask them anything that happened in the game that they don't know about or maybe even things from the outside world that I don't know what I'm doing with the game. Might influence their opinion one way or the other if CBS feels like any questions that we send in because we send in questions to be asked on our behalf by you know producer someone from PR if CBS feels like any of those questions do fall in those buckets they reserve the right to screen those questions out so I know that certainly there are some things that need to be asked of some of these contestants that have made the jury and I would love to ask about.

1:09:48That again I mentioned I love Rick Evans before but that's not the same that I'm not going to hold him and other people icon or not accountable for some things that have been said in the house but I want to warn people that just because we ask those questions initially does not necessarily mean those questions may make their way to the house guest years proper again I want to put that out as a bit of a disclaimer because jury exit press works a little differently regardless I am excited to talk with these people to get their thoughts as they become jurors overall you can. Check out everything I'm doing at in bike gym type. Yes all right well that is what we have for you then today thank you all so much for joining us and I will see all of you next time.