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Big Brother 28 wraps up its pre-jury phase with an exclusive exit interview as Rob Cesternino and Taran Armstrong sit down with evicted houseguest Haley Thogmartin. This candid conversation dives into the highs and lows of Haley’s game, her emotional struggles inside the house, and the reality of discovering hidden alliances and moves once back in the real world.Get every episode summarized
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And for a limited time, enjoy free shipping in the US on Vintage. Everybody, what's going on, Rob Sistrinno, back with our final exit interview of the pre-jury. And then we do not get exit interviews during the jury phase. We may have a way to ask people questions. That's not our concern today because we have our final exit interview of the season with a pre-jury remember that is Haley and Haley. Sog Martin is going to join us here in just a moment. Check out Terrence Live feed update today. I also just did a summer of Stein and Brittany Haynes will be on our recap on Thursday night. So Jam packed big brother Thursday. Of course, we have our interview with Haley. Here she is. Hey, Haley, what's going on? It's Rob and Terrence from RHAP. And this is such an interesting exit interview to do with you.
Of course, I know that you had many tough weeks in the house. Hopefully that this has been a better week for you outside the house. But normally we talk to people who have not been online, that they haven't gotten their phones back, but you are out and free and in the wild. What did been like to now come back and learn about everything that we got to see from your time in the house? Well, it's reading a lot of this stuff. You kind of have to navigate it through it. But trying to get back into a routine, you kind of have a good sleep schedule again. I think that's been the hardest part. But the rough weeks that I had had nothing to do with the game. And I just had a really hard time separating a lot of personal things on the mental side versus the game. So that's what I was referring to in that aspect. What is surprised you the most coming out of the house that you've learned from your time? Your time in there? Some things that surprised me was some of the things that
were hit on the most, like the bubbly, fun, comment. I was exhausted. That was a long day. And so looking at it now, I was like, oh no, that does look bad. But then also not getting a chance to explain why. Because I tried to be as strong as possible. Why it was having the hard weeks. But it's a really tough experience. And so again, it had nothing to do with the game. I know I wasn't on the block, but mentally, trying to navigate through all the relationships and friendships that you had. It was a lot harder than I anticipated for sure. One of the things that we had seen from your time in the house was that there were conversations where Taylor said she wanted to talk to you and have difficult conversations with you to educate you about things. Maybe things that you wouldn't like. We didn't end up seeing those conversations happen. Did those conversations end up happening? And were they informative for you? Yeah, we did talk. And again, I was incredibly grateful that she did bring it to my attention.
Minus how the conversation started. I was incredibly apologetic. I would never want anyone to ever feel that I was attacking somebody in a certain way or to make them feel that way. So I owned it. And again, I'm appreciative. This life is all about learning. And we're not going to be perfect. But I definitely know how to move forward with it. You did get eliminated in the mid-eval year 1000 contests. Obviously, you did volunteer for that first spot. Do you regret volunteering for that first spot? Do you think all to... If you had to go back, do you still think that's the best strategy for it? Because honestly, I don't even know what the best strategy for it is. You know, I don't regret it because it does give you the most chances to get yourself out. I also knew I didn't have anyone else to save me in there because the only people I was working with truly was Devon's Indie, who were already safe.
And then our plan was to save Angela right off the bat. So I'd be relying on Drew or Barrett, but everybody else in the house wouldn't have saved me. So I knew for a fact that I just wanted to give myself the most chances. However, it didn't turn out the way I wanted, but I thought I played hard. You know, I never gave up and it just, it is what it is. Hey, how tapped in are you into the current state of the house? Not so much. Not so much. I've just tried to kind of... Yeah, are you aware of the H-O-H and who's on the block tonight? Yeah, the only episode I watched was last night. So I am aware that Devon's on the block. Okay, if Rick Devons does not survive the blockbuster, would you have been up for voting out Rick Devons? No, I wouldn't have. I stayed really true to my alliance and that was something that I knew going in. You know, I was going to ride to the people that rode for me. And, you know, even from the beginning, I know we had that fallout, but we've ended it, but I wouldn't have voted out Rick, no.
Yeah, we saw that you... And I think this was something that I think we anticipated from the preseason as well, because you talked about being loyal to a team that you seemed like you were a team player. And yet, like all of the alliances you were in just constantly betrayed you. Like, for instance, Angela, indeed, was about flipping the vote to keep Melody and then lying about it. When, to my estimation, at least, you would have been, if they just told you, this is what we want to do, you would have been fine with it, but instead it kind of blew up the tool shed. Obviously, you had an adverse reaction to eventually learning that Angela had been lying. You did eventually repair that relationship. So, like, what made you come back to Angela and had you kind of fully forgiven her for it? Would you have completely forgotten it? So, this was where I have a hard time separating personal and the emotional in with the game.
Again, this is a game. This was a game. We were all playing the game. We were all playing for a prize. However, I think I was good because I was like, you know what, this is part of it. You know, it's good to happen. But I was just more upset because this is the personal in where she shouted out my family and then portrayed, you know, the side of it. So, I think I was just more upset that it just felt personal at that end. But we ended up forgiving each other. And, you know, I apologize, she apologized. I still think she's an incredible person. But I was still going to stick to her. Obviously, it was hard because now I kind of felt like I was alone at that point. But, I mean, you kind of just have to trust your gut and you have to, you know, kind of go with the people that you have been rocking with, even if, you know, there has been some ups and downs, because that's going to be life too. So. Hey, since you've been out of the house, have you connected with any of the other house guests who are also out of the house? Yeah, I've actually talked to everyone besides Jason and Mallory. So I've talked to everybody else. Yeah. Anything interesting from those conversations that they wanted
to let you know after you connected with them? I think common, I had a really good conversation. We really just kind of, you know, kind of went through the scenarios of, you know, different things. But he was incredibly supportive, Chuck being my writer, Dianna House. He was actually my first phone call. I talked to him at the airport and, you know, him just kind of going through, you know, the last couple weeks and kind of debriefing. It was just really refreshing and good to hear from them. Because they were too, you know, incredible friends in the house that I had. Hey, you talked a lot about feeling bullied in the house. Is that something that you still feel is true that like Lala was bullying you or that there was bullying going on? I did get isolated for the week. However, the conversation with Lala and I, it was super early in the morning. There's a couple of things that weren't shown in Wiltley Shunks. It wasn't on the life feeds or anything that I held on to more personally. Again, it was not me being able to separate, you know, personal and the game. And I shouldn't have said that. I really shouldn't
have. And I do regret that. But I just didn't feel like the apology was sincere. And again, it was early in the morning and it is what I was specifically wasn't on the life feeds. I don't think I'm allowed to say that. No. Okay. I mean, if it was your experience, I think you can. Yeah. Well, I just, there was just a lot of direct comments in front of multiple people. And so it just, it didn't feel good and it just is what it was. Hey, there must have been something that you learned about the game that was surprising to you once you got out of the house. Was there anything that was like that in terms of something you didn't know while you were in there that you have come to learn since? Well, I didn't realize that Angela and Dee were so close from the very beginning. So that kind of surprised me a little bit. And then I saw some, you know, little alliances again. I haven't really went back and watched the entire show just certain clips. Some alliances that were formed, you know, really early on in
middle. I didn't see that again, went right over my head. And again, this is where I go back to saying, like, I wish I had more personal connections, you know, in the house to be able to kind of see that more. But I just didn't at the time. If you had made it to the end, who would have been your preference to take to the final two? With people already addicted or with everyone left in the final time when you were addicted. Yeah. Okay. I would probably still, I'd probably still go to Evans and go to Evans. Okay. All right. Well, Haley, thank you for making time to talk all this through. And I guess we'll see you on social media. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you guys. All right. Thanks, Haley. Bye. All right, everybody. There you have it. There is Haley. She's back online. And she is out there. All right. We have so much to do here on Thursday. Hope you enjoyed all of the
exit interviews so far. This season, I'm sure we will talk with the top three, maybe AFP at the end of the season as well. But until then, no more exit interviews for BB-28. Thank you so much for joining us. Take care of a good one. Bye. A lot of folks listen to Robinson Podcast because they want to get smarter about survivor. But when you want to get smarter about your money or your time, you got to check out all the hacks. The host is named Chris Hutchins. He's a financial optimizer, not like Emily Flippin. He sold two companies. He traveled over 60 countries, mostly for free, racked up millions of rewards points in every week. He breaks down exactly how he thinks about getting more out of life without spending more to do it. It's one of those shows where you finish an episode and immediately want to change something.
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