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America Out Loud News — Battle for the American mind – Anthony Freda #3. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
I want to start with this here and this is what's interesting, I've interviewed a lot of interesting people over the years, a lot of fascinating folks, it's been fun, but I have never, ever interviewed, I can't recall interviewing anyways, a domestic terrorist, which you are a domestic terrorist, tell us what that, how do you get that badge of honor here, what is it exactly, what you do? Well, Tulsi Gavard released it to classify material, proving that anyone who was publicly on public social media platforms questioning the COVID narrative, all the things that we know now
were untrue, I was doing it in a very public way, and anybody who was doing that in a public way was classified as a domestic violent terrorist, and they actually put the word violent in there, so I'm on that list, but I think I've been on it for a while, because as you mentioned, I work for Info Wars, I think that automatically like you get a little special check next to your name, so I've been involved with a lot of thought criminals over the years, and I have the bone of feedies to prove it. Yeah, yeah, all right, so how do you go from, I get the whole Tulsi Gavard thing, I mean, she didn't specifically call you that, I put you on there, right? No, this was a Biden error, the Biden error, she exposed what Biden was doing during the COVID, and we all, many of us didn't get called out in that censures, actually, right? And we were censored, shadow banned, stripped, bare naked, and dragged through the mud, nobody could get their message out for a long time, it was very difficult. I was banned and thrown off like several of them, Facebook, and there were
no reasons for it, what's so, because I don't do extremist stuff Anthony, I don't do, I don't do that kind of crap, you know, so it's just not me, but if you mention anything like Sandy Hook and a title even, or a vaccine in a tie, it doesn't matter what the content was, and they knew you weren't conservative, you were flushed on the toilet immediately. So they happened to be with Facebook, happened to me with even LinkedIn, which I liked LinkedIn a lot, and that was a more serious conversation on LinkedIn, because I don't really, I'm not a big fan of social media, I find it just not a great tool for me, it's a little vile and disgust, you know, yeah, and I don't go back and forth with people, I just, I don't have the, the ram for that, and it's just, yeah, it's nonsense, they call me, and I don't really care what people call me, as long as they call me, it doesn't matter to me, really, truly, if you call me this or that or that, it's all, it's all, it's all fine, I don't take anything personally, you know what I mean, it's like okay, yeah, it's like whatever, when you throw your hat in the ring and the public ring, you kind of know
you're doing that, you know, that you just gotta have a backbone, but I have it on LinkedIn, YouTube started throwing videos off the line, I don't, I haven't posted anything on YouTube in eight, nine years, since really, just actually really about a little more than that, because it was back just before America out loud launch, which was 2016, okay, as we're nine and a half years coming up on our 10-year anniversary, and so, you know, I haven't posted it in there because I find them corrupt, they're communist, they just give you, it's just one hassle after the next, and same thing with Facebook, same thing with LinkedIn, so I get the whole domestic terrorist label that they were labeling people, conservatives and all, but to make the leap, what really fascinates me here is to make the leap, and this has got to be a story behind this, I want to hear the New York Times, the Atlantic, the Rolling Stone, to info wars, how does that happen? Well, it was a series of sort of revelations, I started my career in advertising, and
I started, you know, as a young man, I learned more in advertising, I went to Pratt four years for art, got out in 1984, and, you know, I was immediately in the trenches in the advertising bullpen's, and you learn more there in a month than you do going to art school about the real world for four years, and anyway, I eventually started my own advertising art studio in Manhattan, very successful, I'm a young man in my 20s, and I got all the trappings of success, I started working for Fortune 500 companies, all the big agencies in the city, got my own shop, I bought a condo in the city, and I thought it was on top of the world, and then we worked on this campaign for RJ Reynolds, the Joe Campbell campaign, oh yeah, and some of you have used my brand, it was these corny, cheesy cartoons of camels, playing pool, and there's a hot camel, stand up behind them, you know, when that was a successful campaign though, it was massively
successful, and I mean, I don't know how many hundreds of these, these images were creative for this campaign, I was just one of the artists working on it, but um, did you smoke when you were doing that? No, I wasn't one of my vices for sure. No, I never did either, but that's one of my dad's small camels, that's why I ask you, I never did. Oh yeah, my grandfather did, probably kill them too, but uh, so the FTC comes along and determines that our campaign is illegal because they say we were marketing cigarettes to children, and I had this kind of moral crisis where I said to myself, wow, like, I didn't become an artist who's so cigarettes to kids, like, I'm breaking the law, I'm doing something immoral, like, what am I doing with my life? So I said, I'm done with advertising, plus I saw the whole smarmy, you know, mass psychological influence campaigns and how they prey on people's weaknesses and fears and desires to sell them stuff they don't want or don't need. So I said, I want to work with the good guys, right? I'm still a young man, very naive politically,
and I said, I want to work for New York Times, and I want to work for Time Magazine and in New York, or these were like, you know, I thought I looked at them as the gold standard of journalism. Yeah, for sure. And maybe at one point they worked, but I don't know, but at that time, I started working for the iPad page in New York Times, which I thought, this is like really, you know, premier showcase to be as an illustrator. I was writing articles that were penned by, you know, heads of state and all these, you know, elite. I think that's what you were writing the articles and doing the illustrations. No, no, I'm sorry, I was just, I was only illustrating, but the article I thought was written by, you know, the power brokers of the world. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of where the space, where I think the elite messaged one another. So I'm working for them, and they told me that every word we print here has to be vetted by the State Department. So, so that's I'd like to say, what if the State Department's lying, and you, isn't your job to, you know, counter that lie or, you know, who do some of journalism? And they said, no, we can't print it. So they gave me this
piece written by Condoleezza Rice, who was the Secretary of State at the time. Great way. Yeah, and the, um, but in this piece, there was a lot of the false Cassis Belide that took us to Iraq war. And, um, I had this other moral crisis where I say, well, I'm basically working for a mouthpiece for the State Department. And I'm promoting basically false pretext for this invasion of Iraq, you know, by proxy by working with this entity. And I had another sort of dark night of the soul Malcolm. I said, what am I doing in my life? So, and I was crestfallen because these are my heroes, and now they're like the villains. And a lot of other things led to that too, but my just losing faith in the mainstream media. But, um, if anybody has faith in them now, I mean, God bless you. I don't know how they could possibly can, but this is a long time ago. Yeah. And, um, so I said at that time, it was a seminal movement of
the, um, internet news sites, and there was a health freedom movement, the liberty. Thanks for changing quick, yeah. These were changing quick in the early 2000s, and it was really exciting. And I saw all these people, and they all needed visual content. Now, for AI, so they had to come to guys like me, and they needed book covers or they needed, uh, a post of documentary or they need content for the website. So I saw the work of all these great people, and I finally could sleep at night because I felt like, I mean, I took a big cut and pay, but like Jesus said, you can't serve God and man. So I could sleep at night, and I just had to adjust my lifestyle. And, um, I've been working there ever since, and I guess say I, uh, I, I, my conscience is clear. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you learned a lot, and you said a whole lot there. That's very interesting to me because much of what you said there is really, you think about an Anthony, it's the tale, tale signs of what's happening right now in our, uh, in the world, in our country, in our nation. How, how we've lost so many people, how we lose so many generations
and young people that are captured by the minds of what you've just described there. I mean, let's face it, you're working for the elite, uh, you know, that would be a dream come true for anybody in their 20s as a young artist kind of thing, you know, like that's about a sip as it would get kind of thing. And yet you find out it's the devil you're working for. Uh, it really is the devil. And you know, it just tells you when people think about this media world and, and really should irritate just everybody at some point, I don't know, does America ever open up their eyes? I wonder and see what the hell is going on. Americans, I wonder because the way you describe what the Times and the State Department and they've always had that relationship there. Yeah. And yeah, you're right. There was a time way back. There was some semblance of what you might think would be journalism, whatever that was, but it's gone and, and all, and it's all of these entities. They stack up right after the whole thing, launch stock and barrel. And then when social media started to come out, right, all the social media stuff, they all were on the left.
And you know what really used to irritate me is that a lot of the Republicans, I used to hear them whine all the time. I mean, constant, constant, constant whining about their censor and shadow shadow ban and then they can't deal with it anymore. And it's, it's, it's just, so I just, like, I just don't bother. Like I just, I wouldn't touch Facebook again, whatever they threw me off with 80,000 people and flush people. Why would I go back to those people? Why would I put things on YouTube? People are saying, it's got to be on YouTube with this show. I don't give a shit about YouTube. It's like, if that's where the successes forget about it. I think we can find other ways to get it out there. I don't need it. And people like think it'll upset with that, you know. But the Republicans say, would whine? And here's the thing about it. I don't know what you think about this, but all these winers, it's the left had the ingenuity in the brains. And they bought all this stuff and they own all this stuff and they did all this stuff and they owned all the media. They owned all the social media and they rent it, lock stock and barrel. And but you know, that,
but they owned it. They were private entities. They could do whatever they wanted to do. I mean, they're not being controlled by somebody. But the right state, well, they can't do that. Yeah, they can do that. They can't do that. What's the way? Yeah, they can do that, man. Right. Doing it. Yeah. Well, not you make a good point because I mean, look at all institutions, take big tech Silicon Valley, take academia, take publishing, take the art world, take education. They're all 90% controlled by the left. So where the hell was the conservative for the last 50 years? They let these people who are much more determined than we are apparently. You know, this is part of the long march to history. This thing came, you know, Fabian Socialist started this whole thing and they, and we're coming to the end of the long march now where the mayor of New York is a, you know, jihadi Marxist and the mayor of London's jihadi Marxist, like they're winning. So we've, I mean, we didn't do anything for 50 years. We've got to wake up because this is an existential crisis. And from multiple fronts, but you're right. We let them take all of the
institutions and you can't complain about it. Why didn't you, you know, where was, where was the conservative media? Where was the conservative Netflix? Where was the conservative, you know, education system? They didn't exist. No, no, no. And a lot of them started to come along little bits. It was really late in the game at that point, put the gab and the getter and all these. And they were sort of dysfunctional and they really know what the hell they were doing, you know, kind of thing. And you all joined them. We all joined to think, okay, and there was just nothing really happened in there. And then of course, Twitter was another bomb fire. And then Elon Musk says, well, he had this, he has this vision. I don't think a lot of people know. He has this vision called X. It's way beyond Twitter and that social media. You might know that. And that's where everything is going to be tied to this. He's thinking futuristic here. He's thinking X is a whole paradigm switch. And it's going to have all these things and it's going to be X. And he's going to be one of the planet gods, I guess. I don't know. They're all trying to live forever. The Zuckerbergs and the musk and they've got all these chambers they go in and stuff they're doing the mountains and crap, you know. But right, that's what they're doing. And so he bought
Twitter over and probably didn't know quite what to make of that. The concert of movements, people in my circle said, we don't know what this cat's about because he was like Trump in many ways. He was a mixed bag politically. You really didn't know who or what he was upfront. That's why people didn't trust Trump. What does he, you know, he's been given money to Democrats forever. He's been kissing their asses forever. Why wouldn't we trust him? And it's the same thing with mosque. But yet he did it. And then he started changing things quickly, still doing a fair amount of, from what I hear from people, and I haven't had the experience, but some people are still saying that he's still, there's still a lot of shadow banning problems over there. I haven't seen it, so I can't speak to that. Have you seen it with X? Is that still happening on X? You know, I'm not a big X guy because I was banned from there years ago. And like you said about Facebook, like, you know, why would you want to be with someone who hates you? You know, and it's constantly trying to ban you. But I've heard it's better, but it still exists from, are you on there at all now? Do you have an account or no? Occasionally, yeah, I have an account. You don't have an account. Okay. So I want to tag you in it when this goes up. That's a good reason to get back on there.
That's it. I got people who are on there now. They said, maybe I should get an account now. There's probably X, it has an X though in some weird shortaway. And I hear what you're saying. And with him taking it over though, it's kind of a new set of rules. And he's trying to create this town square a little bit, this sort of town square. And in many ways, it kind of has, if you look at all social media, it kind of has become that. Isn't it kind of happening? Isn't it the one out of all of them? Absolutely. I mean, that was the promise of the internet, right? We have a free open exchange of ideas. And the promise got twisted by censorship and shadow banning and algorithms and political machinations behind the scene. So it really got completely perverted. So I mean, maybe we can go back to the beginning, the way the internet was supposed to be in the 90s. And that would be nice. But so all these problems still exist. But I think Elon is a free speech advocate. And I think he's doing great things with that. And with Garka, Garka Pedia is, I know, from my own experience, I have Garka Pedia
patient. They just say things about me that aren't true. Everybody, they've done it with everybody. They do it with Dr. McCullough. They have them on there as a freak of all kinds of lies and just horrible stuff. They do it with everybody. A lot of people on black woman that way. They're all criticized. Don't wake up, Pedia. How can you trust that? You know, you can't. The only solution is to do what we're doing. I create parallel and many spaces. That's it. But but not cheesy, you know, like, you know, all Mark Christian stuff, like real art, real information, professionally produced movies and films to counter Netflix and education to counter the entire education system. And there are people that are doing it. And, you know, my, I give them, I applaud them because this is what we need. But it has to be robust and powerful and well-funded. There's a lot of rich conservatives, you know, they need to step up to play it because we need them. Civilization, Western civilization. Yeah. Why, you know, I wonder often, and I asked myself, why did the left see all that opportunity? You just got into,
you're right, you mentioned education, but the movie Hollywood, the movie, the film industry, all of that. They sort of shaped culture and all of that all the way through. And it was so much garbage out here. Like I don't, I'm not a TV person. I hate television. There's so much garbage on there. No, my wife loves it. She loves all the crime shows and all that stuff with people killing each other and stuff. It's not my bag. So I find other ways to entertain. I said to the other day, in fact, she'll keep me when she hears this. I'm sure she, she's, I said to the other day, I say, I can't, I can't do it because I'm working all the time, you know, and so really all the time. And she says, yeah, she'll put the television on this and say, I really don't want to watch that garbage tonight. I said, why don't we just go sit and have a cocktail in the other room and we listen to some classical music or do something else. I want to watch, I want to watch the crime show or something. You know, we have that disparity a little bit here. Do you have that problem in your life yourself or no? Well, yeah, I mean, it becomes an addiction, you know, the, I mean, those
shows are designed to addictive on the binge watching and Netflix. Yeah, Netflix is 2500 episodes of some boring show that becomes a soap opera and it just belts your brain in every week to go watch that soap opera garbage. And the proper, but there's, but there's, you know, intersectionalists walk leftist propaganda in every scene, every scene is about identity politics. They, they shoot worn it in and makes you just uncomfortable. So the propaganda so hand-fisted that it's hard to sit through one of these shows. But again, but they listen, the left was smart enough to know that why were they smart enough? Why do you know? Politics is downstream from culture. So we control the culture. We control education. We control publishing. If we control these institutions, we control the narrative. We control the children. We control the future. And they saw that a hundred years ago. So they figured, right, you hit it. I mean, you're right on target here. They figured it out a long time ago, Anthony, what you say there before we even knew it was a thing. I mean,
we would just totally court the right Republican conservatives and patriotism. All of that were really caught with our draws down at our ankles. You know, I mean, really bear ass in the woods. I mean, really like we, nobody even know what happened. All of a sudden, we wake up, we're in the 80s and 90s and everything's being taken from us. They own the culture. They own the education. They own the movies. And then they're going to own social media. So then they own everything. So I asked people sometimes where were the conservatives and that where were the patriots? We're in the Republican establishment. Where were they? And the answer I got back from a couple of three different people is, well, they were busy raising their families. They were busy making money, the capitalists. They were busy running their businesses, entrepreneurs, capitalists. They just left the rest to other people. And I think, well, that has got to be the lamest thing. We gave it all to the wolves. We gave it all to these people that are corrupt and disgusting and that just want to corrupt our world. Do you know why? I mean, is that fit in your
world? No, I think, I think that's part of it. But I think what's interesting and somewhat encouraging is I think that there's a realization now what he just said that, right? We were busy doing our jobs and work and take care of family. And but now it's gotten so bad. It had to get to this point where, you know, just regular American, hardworking, good Christian folk were saying, they woke the sleeping giant and we are the sleeping giant. And we're pissed off and we're done. And I think that that movement, I mean, it has to be carefully, you know, so you're encouraged right now with the sleeping giant. And you are you telling me with this movement of MAGA and Trump and everything that's happening? Are you encouraged with that? That there's that this is a good thing. Something's happening. Is that what you're saying? Well, imagine we'll be like if Kamala got elected. We'd be in some deep do-do. So it's much better than that. And it's pretty good imagination, but my imagination can't go there. Sorry.
Well, I mean, I worked for the RFK campaign when he was running as an independent. And again, I got to see how the sausages were made working on presidential campaign. How did you get that work with that job? Well, this is an interesting story. So I love what RFK was doing. I firmly believe, and I know now that they're working with him for a year, that he wants very simple things, safer food, safer drugs, a less corrupt system. I mean, that's good for everybody. How anybody has a problem with that? I'll never understand. But we're in this situation where I'll tell you what the story, how I got the job. I wanted this job. And I said, I want to be an illustrator for the RFK campaign. And I didn't even know if that position existed, but I prayed on it, and I prayed on it, and I prayed on it. And I swear to God, Malcolm, I get an email. Do you want to be an illustrator for RFK to prepare? And it was a very well-paying job. I was under contract with that for a year. So I mean, that's how God works, you know? I mean, just I felt like it's something
I had to do, and I had no idea how to do it. That's the testimony of the power of Priya right there, if there ever was one, you just nailed it right there. That's amazing. That's, and that's a true story that really happened. Yeah. So RFK, Jr., is, I mean, we talk about him a fear amount on the network here on the platform. Dr. McCullough knows him real well. Dr. Ealy knows him real well. Several of the other docs know him very well as well on the platform here because of, you know, because of him being a health guy as he is with Maha and all that, and they support him and all, you know? But a lot of them have become a little disillusioned a little bit with the success metrics coming out of the Maha campaign, I guess, or with the work he's doing. And what he always, what RFK says back to these guys here that know them pretty closely is that I work at the pleasure of the president. That's what he says. I only can do so much. What do you think there is to that?
What do you think? Well, I think that's true. I think Trump only has probably has, you know, a threshold where he's not willing to go past. But I also think, I mean, just look at the congressional hearings. Look, I mean, he's going against the most powerful institutions in the world, you know, the pharmaceutical industry. I mean, with the way they berate him and lie about him in the press on a daily basis and demonize him. And I mean, he's against some serious opposition who are incredibly powerful and well-funded and they're just relentless. I saw it during the campaign. I mean, relentless attacks. I mean, criminal stuff. I mean, immoral, illegal, unethical, onslaughts of lies and smears and law fair and attacks. And I mean, going back to the other point was the reason the liberals took over is because we underestimated how evil and determined they are. I'll give him credit for one thing. They're determined. They've never corrected. And we should just take them as a word. Like, they're not going to stop. They're not going to say, okay, you want.
They're not going to stop. And Anthony, let me ask you now. Do I have this right? All right, and it may not be right. I don't really know. But you were, you were a liberal at one point. Were you not a Democrat or were you? Yeah, when I was in my 20s, I mean, I sort of bought into the whole, so you were there. Yeah, I was there a little long time ago. But I, you know, before my transformation, my awakening, transcending as in transcending. But, I love it. No, I was, but you know, it's funny. If you listen to speeches by Clinton in the 90s, he sounds like Trump. He's talking about common sense things like closing a border and like, you know, I mean, free trade. I mean, things that were like common sense that today, they're considered not seen fascism. It's like, you could see Obama saying the same thing in the Hillary and he did. They all said the same thing. Trump said, but what he says is it's evil because the culture has, you know, descended into this Marxist chief. So they became more radical that you're, you're onto something here. They all
became more radical. And now you mentioned early on, Laugh with like a mandami in New York City and Katie Wilson, the other nut job in Seattle. And they're littered all over the country. Now, they're all popping up like whack-a-mole in these towns and cities. They're like, it's a free spirit now to be a socialist communist and run an America. That's like somehow a cool thing to people. I don't even begin to know. It doesn't even fit the vocabulary here. You have a hard time spitting it out. It doesn't fit into our constitution. Sorry. It doesn't fit into this republic. And I don't know how far they're taking it, but it appears they're taking it pretty far. How nervous are you about this brother? Do you feel like there's enough momentum happening on the other side that you're not worried at all? Or do you feel like we could be screwed? I think if we don't get as serious as they are, I meet them with equal measure of determination, and force, and human will, and God's grace, then we are doomed. And I think,
eventually, if we don't meet the Islamist threat, and this weird, unholy alliance between radical Islam and radical leftism, that it's going to be, it's going to be a common physical war. I mean, it's going to be blood on the streets. Well, I want to talk to you about that. The left is being used. I think you'll agree with this. The left is being used from Islam as the useful idiots right now. It's absolutely. And many of them, I don't know if they just don't have the, I don't know how high level their intelligence is over there. I really don't know, or do they have any inkling that they're being used as useful idiots? Like even Mondami, and he does it with such a grin and a disgusting look. It's like, and it's almost like the grin, you can see the satanist energy come from, you know, it's like, and he says, you know, I'm going to like screw you over like this or no, right? Well, yeah, well, there's a principle, and it's some called takia, which is the principle that you are allowed to lie, because Muhammad was deceivered. 100%. And that, so he can, and one hand, he's going to these, you know, pro gay rallies
with his arms around gay people. The other hand, he says, he's about Muslim, like those two things are anathema. So you can't, you're lying, one of these are like, you love gay people and you're not Muslim or you hate gay people in your own Muslim, because you know, the 70 countries that are being openly gay is a crime. And 12 of them, they throw them off the ropes and kill them, they murder them. It's 12 countries, the penalty for being openly gay, that's all you got to do is death. And people get more upset about that me for pointing that out that they do, that the people who are actually killing homosexuals, I don't want to kill homosexuals. Well, what do you mean to me for? It's like, they call that a hate fact when you say something that's true, but it makes one of these oppressed groups. You've become a fascist white supremacist immediately. That's what you're involved right there, right there. People murdering people, they're fine. Something has warped about that story, man. Something does this is right. Well, this is, this is a satanic inversion of reality, right? Up is down, good is bad, light is dark. It's, it's the reversal principle or the law of inversion. And that's what Satan
wants, right? The upside down crust is a symbol of that spirit of inversion. Yeah, we're under attack. I think you agree with me, we're under attack. We are, and let me share with you here, we're in the fight of, this is my world now, speaking, you know, I think, but I think you relate to it. We have an awful lot of synergy and common here in our lives and work and advertise the market and then identifying these potholes and pitfalls here, very, very fascinating. But, you know, it's like, you know, we get what's going on, but this good and evil fight, that is the center point, Anthony, of this whole platform. This thing happened like it was really weird in 2016. And I left the boardrooms, the corporate boardrooms, about four years before then. And I was doing a national radio, a lot of radio gigs, and I was doing some television, and because I had been producing a directed radio and television for many years before then, you know, I was in the advertising world, you know, I was the CEO creative director. So I had
groups of teams who creative directors, art directors, etc., copywriters, all of that. I loved walking into a room with a client coming in the corporate boardroom, there was music and, you know, making it happen, you know, it was good fun. And I did that for a lot of years, that was my life. But I knew, when Barack Obama's, when his eight years was happening, I knew we were in pretty serious trouble as a nation. I could see the Marxist tendencies, and I wasn't outspoken about it or anything. But that's when I trademarked out loud, and went with Malcolm out loud. And I said, I was still in the agency, but I knew I was leaving. I was getting out, because obviously they're going to run for political office, or I was going to use the media as a tool to make some change, and make some, hey, make some difference. I have a life that meant something more than succumbing to this, holding. And I wasn't doing it for ego, and I wasn't doing it for anybody else, Anthony. But I don't really, I'm not a follower. I've never been a follower of my
life. I'm a leader, even to the point that it'll get me in trouble. You know, I was the cat who they didn't want in the corporate boardroom, in the board meetings, or the committee meetings, because I would tell you what I call the outlaw truth, which is what many of those cats don't want to hear. They don't really want to hear the outlaw truth, you know. And I would tell you the truth. And I would always be a gentleman about it. I'm not going to be an ass, but I would give you the facts on at least. And I have funny stories about all that. One time we use on here here, but they're funny. So, so, you know, this all sort of happened. And when I, I think what was going on the social media world, all the stuff was happening back and forth, you know. And, you know, then I started to help some people in military law enforcement and some of the doctors launched some shows. I didn't know where it was going. And we called it a miracle out loud. I had no idea, I had no master plan, no grand plan. But I always knew, and you'll appreciate this. I've always known in my life that God was going to use me in some fascinating ways down the road. I noticed
since I was probably 14, 15 years old, I just knew. I didn't know why I knew. And I didn't know what exactly that was going to mean. I had no idea that, but I knew that I would be utilized in this fight of good in evil. Let me just say that. I just knew. I knew. And so, 2016 happens. This starts happening all over the center point of this whole thing was good in evil. My show was good in evil. Everything about it in my mind was we're fighting the evil forces. We're fighting the radicals. We're fighting the leftists. We're fighting the communists. We're fighting the globalists. We're fighting the Islamists. We're fighting the Democrats. Even though I don't like to use the word Democrats a lot, our team does. Our network does. I, there are a lot of still good Democrats with that title that have been hijacked into this thing. And they, they, they don't know it yet. Even the party of JFK, they're gone. And I feel bad for those people. I don't know how to pull them out of there. We're trying to reach more and more of those people. Those are the people I'd really would love to tune in here. Those are the people I'd love to catch up on. Frankly, too, because I want to bring them into a real conversation about life, not hostile, you know, just life. And what can we do here? Does that make sense?
Absolutely. I think that's, I hope, you know, that's, that's really the majority of Americans. I think they're in that they're not left and not right. They're just more center in trying to, you know, see what makes the most sense was, you know, what's the most practical, logical, or reasonable way forward. And these moves to extremism and I can help anybody. But, yeah, I mean, I, that's great. You knew when you were a young man that you wanted. You felt like God was calling you. I didn't feel that until like two years ago when I had a spiritual transformation. But really, tell us about it. Well, it goes back to Netflix and Obama are connected. So, the Obama's made a movie called Leave This World Behind or Leave The World Behind. I don't know if you're familiar with it. It's a sort of a dystopian end of the world political fear porn thing, which I knew it was. I mean, the Obama didn't get into, you know, making movies for Netflix, because they always had a burning desire to be, you know, producers. They lost the bully pulpit.
So now we're going to use Netflix and politics is downstream from culture. So this is smart enough to know that. And watching this movie and it's, you know, it's pretty stressful. It's like nine o'clock at night on a cold December night and I'm in there with my fiance. And she says on halfway through the movie, she says, I don't feel so good. I feel like I don't have chest pains. My heart is racing. And I said, well, let's just turn this crap off. You know, it's, if it's stressing you out. And wow, immediately she starts wildly convulsing and speaking in tongues and looking at me with the the most terrified expression I've ever seen in my life. And, and then she seized up and went into a non-convulsive seizure, sort of forming at the mouth, blood coming out of the mouth. We find out later that she almost, she literally almost bit her tongue in half. Oh my god. And I didn't know what to do. So I called 911. And the robot gets on the phone. So it's your call is very important to us.
There are eight calls ahead of you. So a 911, a 911. I swear to God, 911. So I got my son who was there to call and they, the EMT came in and in the, in the interim before that while I was waiting for the EMT, I didn't know what to do. Malcolm, I felt so incompetent because I felt like she was dying in my arms. And I just held her and I prayed. I didn't know what else to do. I know what's happening. And, and she stiff as a board. And then at one moment, every body goes limp. And she starts laughing. And she has this look of complete peace and tranquility on her face like I've never seen before. It was complete opposite of the way she looked before. And she's just in this place of peace and tranquility. And I couldn't reach her, but she was, she was in a, I believe with my whole heart that she was with God. She was a loved ones. She went to the other dimension. She was in heaven. And because she had a look of just perfect peace. And then I believe it just wasn't her time. And
she was sent back and she just clenched up again and just clenched up and started seizing again. And anyway, to make a long story short, two years later, she had, you know, long convalescence, but 75% of the people that happens to die and she had to bring lead. And it was, you know, hemorrhagic stroke really. So that night, I just realized that I prayed for her to live and she lived. And that was the greatest gift. And it was the greatest gift that I ever had to save her life that night because if she had lived alone, like she did not long before that, because no way she would survive. So it was both closer to God and just reinvigorated our faith. And it made me want to put my gift that God gave me into the service of the Lord. Everything I do now is devotion to dedication, prayer is the glory of God and to Jesus. And
I feel I feel that connection now to my true purpose and my true authentic self. That's in harmony and in alignment with my true voice, my spirit, God's spirit inside me and the light inside me. Do you, what do you think? Do you think that movie had something to do with that? Well, this is interesting. So, you know, I started researching it and people are saying that they downloaded hundreds of Netflix movies to files and every single one out of hundreds and hundreds of them have, they have one audio file and one video file. This one has one video file and four audio files. And one of them is an infrasonic. So you can't even hear it with the human ear. And in the movie, the whole premise of the movie is this, there's this noise, they call it the noise. And it's this mysterious, like sonic weapon or acoustic weapon that we don't, they never describe what it is,
but it makes people have incredible pain and their teeth fall out. And you see in sci-fi movies at times, yeah, that kind of thing. Yeah, but this is, I mean, we don't sound weapons. No, no, no, no, no. But, um, I don't know, I don't, this is just speculation in my part, but people are talking about online that many people have had very negative effects after watching that movie. Did, did you have to go back and finish watching the movie or no? Did you ever see the end or no? No, I'm afraid. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. I'm wondering. What did you watch? Half a half of it or something or part of it? All right, three quarters of it. Oh, well, three quarters of it. Okay. I've never seen the movie. So I don't, I can't answer to it. I have not. Yeah. So I can't speak to it. But what you describe is, is wow. And you know, none of that information is reported in the media, even to the point of that movie. You're speaking about the way you described it, Anthony, and what
it is. I mean, that would be in itself, and what you just described would be a massive story, massive headline, I mean, to what degree? And you're right. They have taken Netflix. They're very involved in all that culture stuff. And that's kind of what I see. And I seen him as a real cancer for our nation. And Biden was clearly his puppet. There's no doubt about that. The same casting characters were random. Everybody was ridiculously denying this and playing like fools. I mean, and somehow they thought we would believe this. I mean, come on. Yeah. And the media played along with it. There's the media so disgusted in this country. I, I don't, I don't ever use the word hate, but that is one group I would tell you I probably hate, you know. Well, they deserve your hate. We don't hate them enough. I don't think because people still, I don't know why people still turn them on. I mean, thank God Joe Rogan's audience is like 30 times a CNN viewership. So it's weird. They still have this cashier, this power, though,
from the legacy that they've left and driving the headlines, driving the headlines, driving the narrative, driving the narrative. They still drive the narrative. And even though we know they've lied countless times about really important, like, life and death, things, purposely knowingly lied. It wasn't like they made a mistake. It had to retract. No, no. And they never retract. And by the way, they never apologized. Nobody ever gets in trouble. You know, you and I got banned and censored. We were trying to tell the truth or just asking questions. They're purposely lying and they're rewarded with this. Yeah. You know what else is even weirder than that is that we, not only does it happen the way you just described an Anthony and, you know, but then while I noticed media recently, I'm called a whatever you want. I don't know what you want to call conservative media. I'm not even sure if that's a term or whatever. But I know it is to some people. And they would take all their time or, you know, whether whether it's
a OAM or Fox News or any of these sort of, I guess you probably would call them. I guess you probably call them a little right of center. Maybe right of maybe a little bit of center. Maybe I mean, I don't think they're conservative, but they're not over here. Probably right of center, right? I guess. Yeah, that sounds right. I guess, maybe. And but I hear them just this past week here on there. And it isn't bad enough that they drive the narrative and get all the headlines as you say there, but they then take these cats like they were trying to describe the New Joe Rogan, this woman who has such a trash mouth that she looks like, if you compare her to Rogan, it would, Rogan would be a quiet boy in church with his mouth or whatever that is if that was a problem. And she, you can't understand her conversation because it's, it's, and you have to, when they're, when they were playing her on the news, they were beeping every other third word,
beep, but a beep, but a beep, but a beep, but a beep, but a beep, but a beep, but a beep, but a beep, you just couldn't admit there was, that was the narrative. Very angry woman, very disgusting, very, very Satanist and trying to, she's going to be the left's new Joe Rogan, but because she knows how to swear, because she knows how to profanity, because she's, you know, an idiot. I mean, what, what makes her that? And, you know, you see this stuff and then you see Rogan and he's another one. F bombs all over the place, a blow smoke, a cigar against a guest face, a bourbon down there. And it's like, this is like, you know, this is what the attraction is to people out there, I guess. I find it ridiculous. I just, I don't even see what the point is, you know? Yeah, it's a circus, but it's, you know, it's just a deliberate dumbing down of society. People's attention spans. I was talking to a writer. I work with some people that write for a pitch stories and series to the streaming platforms. And they're being instructed by them to, make sure you make the story very obvious. You have to write the story now. As if you assume
the viewer is also on their phone while they're watching the show. Yeah. So they're half, they don't only have paying attention. So that's why you watch these Netflix shows. And you said, this looks like, you know, they're speaking down to me like an idiot. Like it's like, I was watching some, I was watching some detective show, my fiancee. And she said, this is like a Nancy Drew, you know, it was like so, it was so obvious and everything was so over the top. And just, you know, it just, it was insulting to your intelligence. And that's it. An adult story. And that's what they want. That's what they want. And, and, you know, as I see the news do in this to finish that thought the other day, I'm thinking that not only does, like you say, you say, well, I don't know why they have the narrative, why they get the attention or like the bull in the Chinese shop, why do they get all that attention? They're lying. They just, it's horrible stuff. It's misinformation. It's just information. It's, it's wrong stuff. And yet then that right of center media that you would try to tune in to get any level of existence of what might have
happened in the news on that particular day, they take a good part of the program and spend it talking about the new Lunatican, the left, the new female Jill Rogan. So they take, oh, so now you're built. And they say, well, we, and then they say this, Anthony, they say, well, we hope that nobody like, uh, listens to her or tunes in. We don't think they're going to, but she's not really well known. You just gave her prime time, X amounts of millions of people to listen to you all talk about her for the last 20 minutes. And now you, I mean, so we just, what I'm saying is we feed into it as well with all that, you know, by talking about the narrative, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, that's this weird symbiotic relationship. It's, uh, it's, uh, it's kind of like one does, it's like in an yang thing, you know, like they become dependent on each other. So demonizing the other side always gets ratings. So on both sides, so it's this sort of adversarial symbiosis, you know, and, um, this is its system we're caught up in. And people, I mean, I try to find people
who are smart. I mean, I don't, you know, I like Jordan Peterson and a lot of people don't like it. He's good. He's pretty intelligent guy. And he has things to say that I think pertinent to the, you know, the preservation of Western civilization. So, uh, there are smart people out there and that they're talking. And, um, I mean, I think he's almost dying now, something happened to him. But, uh, I hope that's not the case. I did hear those stories. Is he really, do you know, he is really ill? Is that he's very ill. He was in, he was in ICU critical condition from the summer. And, uh, he hasn't had to made a peep publicly. His wife said she thinks it's a spiritual attack. And it might be a political attack. I mean, they might have poisoned them. Who knows? Because what I did it, you know, uh, Charlie Kirk, we're in a civil war now. We're in a civil war. They have a hit list of people they want to kill. And, uh, you know, it's just happening. Well, I want to talk to you about that civil war in just a couple of moments here. I want to talk to you, uh, uh, some of the very interesting thoughts you have here. There's something interesting to about 9-11. I, and I don't ever talk about the Shawnee, but I just want to touch on it because
something happened the other day in my world on the 9-11 business. And, uh, and I, I don't know, I just, I just want to touch on a little bit. Not, not, not a lot, but touch on that a bit. And your art, I definitely, I love what I was seeing when I went to the site and see some of the stuff you're doing. I got to see it. Uh, I may be your, your best voice and customer in that world. I don't know, especially when I've seen some of the stuff because it's very unique, it's very funky stuff. Uh, so we'll talk about that as well. So let me take just a minute here and talk to, uh, listeners and viewers, please, if I can't Anthony. And, uh, sure. So, uh, yeah. So, um, we have here, you know, especially, you know, we should come through, uh, different times of the year and, uh, you know, flu season, virus season, all that kind of thing. One of the things we've done are a centerpiece for our network is the shop, America out loud dot shop. And you all know that out there. And it's, it's pretty cool stuff. Uh, the shop is, we've negotiated, and here it is here. Chris has got up on the screen here. There's some very fascinating products. Just scroll real slow through there. Chris, for me, um, some of this stuff is fantastic. Sprouts at the top there. This
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And that product does it. It just does it. It's down. And 23 minutes later, you know it. And I do I do it when I'm when I'm walking. I just it's just a ritual of mine. You don't have to do that. They just tell you to fast for 30 minutes, but I fast for hours. I do intermittent fast. And so I don't like eat all day long. I give myself a chance to rehabilitate and good cells will will will create new more good cells. And that's how you get rid of the bad cells out of your body. I swear by intermittent fast. And so I'm not one of these cats that got to eat all the time. Absolutely not. Your body's working too hard with that stuff. So, you know, but I stay fit. I get out and do my thing. And it's got to have a healthy immune system. Or if we don't have that, we're not going to be here for the fight. You know that. We're not going to be able to fight. So that's it. We got to do it. Yeah, we got to do it. This before me. All right. So we'll come back to that civil war you that war you mentioned in a moment. I want to talk to you about 9 to 11 a moment because I'll forget this. And I'm not a you'll find out for me. I've never had this conversation on air and I don't have a strong opinion on it one
way or another. I just don't. I know a lot of people do. But there's a the reason I bring it off. There was a piece of we have an engineer. One of our writers is a brilliant super smart guy an engineer. And he writes some amazing pieces a couple times a week. I'll just say his name is Joe Archer. Very interesting guy. Little controversial at times. But that makes him interesting. And I tell some of my conservative folks, it's all right. He's just he's interesting. We've got to a point in our country now where people don't want to accept differences of opinions and thoughts. And see, I don't mind that. I'd like to have the different. I'd like to bring everybody to the table. So I'm okay. It's okay, man. I'm just not too interested in, you know, Marxism and communism. I just a couple of little lines. They're anything that comes from Satan's play pen. Yeah. Not my thing. Not my thing. You know, but everything else I'm open to pretty much, even liberalism. I'm happy to talk to folks. I'm really, really true. I got great friends,
that are liberals and Democrats. And I think today they're losing their collective minds, but that is beside the point. I digress. Right. So this whole of not 11 things. So he's got a piece that has gone up. I don't know when people will hear this or see this. So it doesn't matter. But if you ever want to see it, just go up to the menu at America, allowed Autos and Host and go to Joe Archer and look up that piece. And but he gets into 9-11 on there. And it's in the title and other things. He talks about a rogue government, a rogue government. And he talks about, oh, let me just give it the damn title now. So I don't screw this up. Oh, NGOs snap 9-11. And the US government has gone rogue. That's the title of the piece. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's the title. And and and and and and he's just and he's just he's not a, you know, I don't find him out there flaking with the no, whatever. But he's an engineer. He's when I say he's a he's a classic engineer. He's a super smart guy. He's a scientist. He
he knows how to do stuff. Okay. He knows how to do stuff way more than I would know that kind of stuff. That's his that's his belly weight, not mine. But he I was when I seen this piece, I haven't seen a piece like this from him, but he's he's calling it he's he puts the facts and points in there that he thinks this thing was a total setup from our government that it was mechanically engineered wise. There's no way this could have happened without being a staged event. It's like, okay, now and I don't I haven't I know other people are saying that a different walks of life. I don't converse with them and I don't have those people in my life. I'm just not a theorist. I don't yeah, I'm just not. But what do you think about that, please? And what's your third theory? I got to talk to you about this. What is exciting? Well, do we have time? Do we have time for my 9-11 story? Oh God. How big? How big can we show? Can we get a show? Because we have other things to talk about too. Give me those give me those short summary strong version. I lived in downtown Manhattan when 9-11 hit the first plane that hit actually woke me up. I was
up late than I before. I thought a truck had rammed into my building. Looked out the window. I saw smoke coming from Twin Towers. I proceeded to go to my roof and I watched all three towers fall perfectly into the footprint that day. But I completely again, I was a naive kind of guy in 2001 and I totally bought into the official narrative. They, you know, they found the passports of the tie-jackers, even though everything else was reduced to ash. They found these paper passports block away. Oh, how can be? So the people were all disintegrated, but the passports survived. The plane was gone. I didn't know that by the way. Oh, yeah, you're looking out. So I became like a scholar on this because what happened was I got an assignment in the village voice. To this, the piece was about, it's called Fakes on a Plane. It was a piece about all these 9-11 truth documentaries, right? So we went into this piece. Basically, we're going to make fun of these guys, the tinfoil hat wearers, right? So as part of my due diligence for the assignment, I watched all these films. And by the end of the films, it was architects, engineers like you say,
physicists, scholars, historians, ex-military intelligence guys. I mean, these were not stupid people. And they were all pointing out the obvious flaws. It was like, it falls apart just like the COVID narrative, what the same kind of thing. It totally falls apart on any scrutiny, any scientific scrutiny. The laws of physics were not obeyed that day. So something happened. And that piece that I did is on my website, but I basically just supported me going through that awakening process. It was another one of my moral crises moments. And the piece is now in the permanent collection of the 9-11 museum because I've sent them a letter saying you need to have pieces into the challenge, the official story. Oh, so they did it. They could have. They did it. Yeah, but we went to the movie. We went to the curators who were very nice. They interviewed us. We filmed the whole thing. Okay. And then we put it up on YouTube and they they threatened us with legal action if we didn't delete it. So we never deleted it. And they never sued us. But who's they?
Who's they? The 9-11 museum. Okay. So I know you had something in the museum I've read and heard that producer gave me that note, but I did not know what it was. I did not ask. I like the spontaneity of the conversation here. So I don't ask all this stuff in advance. I just don't know. But that is wild that they put it in there to accept the other narrative. I find that fascinating. Well, it's part of the permanent collection. I don't know where it is. It might be like in a year and all somewhere. Probably taped to the wall. I can read as little as talk as I can have this big thing on the ground and put it on the dark. They say it's part of the rotating show, but I haven't seen any rotation. So I don't know. Well, they made you feel good at least. They made you feel good. They're very nice. All right. So you think there was so you like Joe believe there's something more to the story than very clearly, right? If you go to architects and engineers for 9-11 truth, they have all the scientific research and data like I'm not a scientist. I'm just a graduate of pictures, but it's very compelling arguments. All right. Well, we have we have multiple
scientists on this network, for sure, brilliant smart people. One time we'll talk about this and I'd love to have you guys make a note of this in the back here, please, producers. And I'd love to venture back on when we do that with some of these other folks who also think something really happened like that. And maybe we all use this as a learning experience to learn so I just don't know enough to know. I haven't spent a lot of time there to dive deep into that world to know, but there are people who believe it. In fact, there's a movie called Loose Change. You can start with that. Okay. All right. All right. Well, and you know, I'm just thinking about an Anthony. I think and I couldn't be wrong, but I don't think so. I think my college daughter, I think she and I not really talked about this story, but I think she maybe thinks it wasn't a thing that it didn't happen in the way we think it happened. And I don't see she's a theorist either, but I don't know why I think that, but I think I heard her say that recently. Yeah, there's a growing
there's a growing awareness of it and consensus. I mean, I can't believe it took, you know, 24 years, but it is starting to gain some traction. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, uh, and you're you mentioned, uh, it's a COVID on the Wuhan lab. It's a very good example of a rogue government. And we won't go into that today at all. Either here. All right. Before we get to your art, I'm so for me, I want to talk about that, but I want to talk about this. If you take what we talked about in the first part of the program, brother, and we move that forward to this moment here. I mean, uh, you're well informed on the issues and you have a good sense. And the thing that's unique about yours, well, that I really like and admire is your life journey where and a lot of people this should be able to relate to Anthony's story because a lot of people are liberal thinking and Democrats and a lot of the young people, although Trump did make a lot of a lot of hay through the last election, but a lot of those people could usually go back. Then you see all the protest on the college campuses. You see a lot of the, uh, the support and the terrorists, which
you, you just can't connect the intelligent brain cells in your mind to figure this stuff out. And it's really happening in our country. It's really, really happening. You know, that's the worst part about it. Um, it was like surreal seeing all that happen in real time, uh, as it was happening. It was actually embarrassing that this was happening in our country. I felt like, you know, really, I don't know. It happened that I teach at FIT and I saw the protests go rogue at my college and it was these kids that they're, their anger and their sense of righteous, you know, moral crusade has been misdirected into the wrong place. Yeah. You know, I mean, millions of Christians being slaughtered all over Africa and nobody cares. Nobody knows. I know. It's happening and it's happening. And you know, right now, the focus is on Nigeria has been in recent weeks and months, as you know, but actually it's happening a whole lot of countries. Yeah. And that is, if you connect and you know where this goes and was another day for another talk here somewhere, but you connect those dots and do all of that, brother. And then you connect it to Seattle and New York City and
you connect it to the whack-a-moves that are happening all over our country now. And you begin to understand that we are pretty well under attack here. Are we not, Anthony? Yeah. Like I said before, it's, it's the long march through history, through the institutions and they're coming to the end of their march that they're, they're emboldened by the success of Mamdani and Saddi Khan and, you know, these Islamists and radicals become overrepresented in the body politic. So 5% of a population could be 50% of the legislature. It's happening right here in Paterson, New Jersey. And then they institute Sharia or the left is its two Marxist policies. And it's happening with, they're not some fringe movement that we could laugh at. You can't laugh at AOC anymore, you know, she could be president because they've lurched to the left and they've lurched into the mouth of the Islam. Yeah. And we have taken with their word. There was thousands of guys when Mamdani got elected at Times Square screaming, this is how we're going to take over the country with ballots not bullets.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were. They're determined. Like we, I could say we have to give equal measure of determination. Yeah. Yeah. I hope people take your serious, your, your warnings, your thoughts there. There's a lot to take from that. We know we're, we know there are some real challenges on the table here with our nation or all. What do you think as far as it's just coming this long march and all we're at right now and the things that have happened. And have we totally, I mean, all right, have we totally lost control at this point, all control or we're still in the fight. We still, but you said we got to wake up. It is a civil war and aren't forecast. There's something else going to happen in our country because we are getting to a weird place. As an example, even in recent weeks and months here, the Democrat politicians went ahead and do our doing TikTok videos and Instagram videos and various videos and they're putting them out there. These are, these are elected officials now that's rid of the constitution and take a note and so on and so forth.
And they are telling our military to step down. Don't follow the commander-in-chiefs marcher-noters and push against the system and so on and so forth. That is, that is tyranny right there if there ever was. That is an insurrection if there ever was. Where we headed? Yeah. Yeah, we're headed for, you know, Fort Center civil war. It's going to be a different kind of civil war. It's going to be skirmishes on the ground, you know, and tee for shark troops facing, you know, some, the proud boys or whatever, you know, it's going to be like that for a long time. But they, you know, in this sort of yummy and shiny way where each side has is projecting the things they hate about themselves onto the other. So you see projection everywhere. You see the left accusing the right of what they're doing and you see this, this like symbiosis of hate that I spoke about before happening in the political sphere. But I think the answer is that we have to realize this is not a political battle. This is a spiritual battle.
We have to get right with God instead of going on the street screaming about things. You need to look into mirror and screaming yourself and say, you know, how can I be a better person? How could I get closer to God? How could I, how could I live my life as a good person? Because your routine becomes your character. If you're watching porn again, high all day, like you're destroying your life. The devil is winning on a personal level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as you were talking just there, brother. Chris had blown you up and we could see you're pretty good. You're art in the back and all. And it's funny. We're talking about faith and God and everything at that point. And the art behind you is just so resonant of that. It's just so perfect, beautiful. I love the eclecticness of it all. And the messaging is very, very strong. So that was very purposeful that that happened there. Let's talk about you now in your art. So because you're you're a footprint when I started to see the work you were doing. I was so impressive. You have a real talent, brother. Nothing I'm telling you. I think you don't know. You have a
career that goes with that as well. Yeah. Look at the talent. Look at the. Oh my. Wow. Tell us about this piece. Tell us about them. So that the piece that before that was Christ and the Antichrist, and you see the technocracy in the robot. And I think AI, so we have the Holy Spirit, if you believe in this sort of overarching force of light and good in God's grace, that informs Christendom. And now I think AI is formed by the adverse of that. But this darkness is demonic force that we're giving giving life to. We're making it incarnate through this AI technology. So the tech is allowing this demonic force and these entities to become alive and to become self-conscious and to become powerful. So I think that that balance of light and dark like we're that's the spiritual battle. So spiritual battle is spiritual, but it's
being engaged. And now we're not like a technological sphere and a political sphere. But the overarching spirit is spiritual. We have to understand that things start to mix. It's a spiritual battle. It's a good and evil fight. Keep the move in Christ so we can see more of them, please. Yeah. Let's go to the next. Yeah. So everything I do is about duality because I think that helps you understand the world as above, so below, and the inversion principle and light and dark, good and evil. Because those contrasting themes, I mean, as an image maker, a visual communicator, the best thing to do is to take two disparate ideas and merge them into one. And in that space, that dynamic tension, something interesting happens. Well, that's a good description of our nation right now. If we could do that with our nation, something might come out of that. Yeah, that's a great way to put it because yeah, instead of just having this illusion that we're separate, I mean, yeah, we're not separate. It's like it's like one side of me is trying to kill the other
one. Like, right, right. You could kill your brother, but you're going to die too. Right, right, right. When you designed the art piece for what we just described and did, give me some credit for that please. Okay, just a little bit. Go ahead. That's going to be a very patriotic piece, by the way. Go ahead. Keep what's what's going to keep the moving here. I want to see some of the other stuff here. Now, what are some of the other themes you write you do? What are some of the other things? Is this your shop? Is this in your shop all this or is this my shop? Yeah, on my website, there's my Instagram page has everything I've done over 40 years. I kind of well, I did some sculpture that was sculpture, but I um, you know, like any good artist, I had what's this what's this one here? This is cool. I love this. This I this I painted on it. I got this giant really cool old vintage school board, right, classroom, school slate, and I just started painting and drawing on it and it was from a dream. I love this one. I love this one. Yeah, I love this. What's this? Yeah, so that's, you know, this this illusion that
we're engaged in this mind prison and um, we have we we're like locked in our own prisons that we had the key to all the time and the key is God and the key is us connecting with God and connecting with that that infinite within us, the divinity within us and we have to lean into that light. Look at this. Look at this. Yeah. Yeah, I the duality. I love that you do that is because as an artist, you have to have a unique um, dimension to you, typically I I believe, you know, this is like great work. See, I love whimsical art. First of all, so you're you're like, this is like um, like candy for me. This is like, you know, you know, when you were showing the camel cigarette guy back there that you were designing with the camel back in the day, right? Yeah. By the way, you probably heard about this artist. I collect Marcus Pearson, you know, Marcus Pearson. Yeah, you're with the coyote series, right? Right? Yeah. I love the coyote series. I wish I had them close
by. They're in my other rooms and stuff. They're I've got them. I've got some great Marcus Pearson pieces who I love about Marcus Pearson is he writes, uh, he writes an inspirational piece with it. There's always a point of reference to the piece the from an artist. I love that that he that's becomes part of the piece, the message. I've got two amazing pieces. I've some originals of his and others on the wall where it's got it's the piece. The words are descriptive right in. They are not. I just love it. Uh, he's one of my favorites here. Um, I'm a big doctor of Sioux's fan is one of I'm huge doctor. I've got every book. Oh, there's Pearson there. Yeah, there's Marcus Pearson. I think the coyote series. That says to me on a on a Saturday with a little bit of red money. Hello. How you doing, folks? You know, uh, but anyways, uh, that's your day off. As my day off, you bet, you bet, you bet. Um, but, um, yeah, Pearson is incredible. I have every book, Dr. Sioux several wrote his, uh, children's book and as adult books, by the way. Yeah. Uh, everything he ever did. The stuff during the World War II and he did some, um, adult,
you know, theme stuff. He's got adult theme stuff with the wars. I've got everything. I wish I had met him in person. I wish I had interviewed him. Uh, maybe I'll get to do that in the next life going forward. I don't know. But, uh, Theodore Sioux Geisel is his name and, uh, Audrey Geisel is his wife. Um, and, uh, they wrote a Springfield, Massachusetts, by the way, is where their museum is still today. In fact, yeah, you know, fascinating. Um, but Marcus Pearson is really cool. Uh, again, the, the winchicle part of it, but the message in behind the storylines and very inspirational about love, about life, uh, about tragedy, about opportunity. Uh, but that's life. It's about everything, you know, it's about everything that's out there. Um, now with your work, do you sell, um, I'm curious and I don't know this and I'm asking you for, uh, reasons. So we know, do you, do you sell like prints, do you sell, uh, originals, do you sell, tell me what, how you don't place? Uh, both. We go to my website. There's a Shopify link and you can buy, uh, prints affordable prints or you can buy original art or you can buy, um, or you can
commission me to do a portrait or whatever you're interested in. You know, we can work, we can collaborate for a really individualized specific piece of art. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. And, uh, and you're, and this is, is this your big business, is this your business now? Is this this just keep you moving for creating the art? Well, yeah, I mean, I, I do a lot of stuff pro bono for people I think are doing good work, you know, journalists, researchers, um, but I also, uh, I saw my work because I got to pay the bills to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um, yeah, I teach at FIT and I teach, I teach at mentorship class, personal mentorship and, um, career guidance for young artists. So I, um, I do a little bit of our talent here. I've been so talented. I'm looking at this work. I said, you are really talented here. I love this work here. This is, you're very, this is high on my list. Yeah, I'm very high on my list. Uh, and I hadn't studied it.
I'm glad Chris just bought them all up now so we can see them. Uh, very, very impressive. I'm going to check the shop. Oh, no. And my wife, I'll go look at it and see it. And then I'll talk to you and, uh, yeah, it's very cool stuff. Um, wow, wow. And to think you were doing all the art, you learned so much over the years and your work, uh, for the stuff you were doing, you know, back in the day, um, and now you use all this now, I got to ask you something here. Um, okay. Part of my mission, I've stayed to you, reaching, uh, some of the people on the office that think differently from me and you actually think differently over here. And I've got friends like that. Actually, people, I, I actually love, but I just think they're a little screwed up in the brain somehow. I don't know what's going on. I really don't. I hope they hear this. Uh, no, no names to be mentioned joy, uh, by the way. So no names to be mentioned. I'm going to tell them to watch this program and she'll flip. Uh, I just love her. Love it. She's been a friend for many years, but somehow she has
TDS. She has TDS. Yeah. And, uh, in a big way. And, uh, she just thinks she's, uh, but she's listening to garbage and she watches these programs. She was watching a podcast that I didn't never even knew it. I just don't follow this garbage. And, um, it's, uh, I forget the name of it now, but it's one of the top pod. It's a liberal. It's crazy. It's way not liberal. It's like way over here. As she thinks it's like, like the cornerstone of everything that's true, everything they get on and whacked Trump and something he did or didn't do or something. It's like, not. Your brain cells are tripping backwards, man. When you do that stuff, like, come on. You know, and, uh, you know, but we, where you were younger, where you had this, uh, where you went, you're, you're just a marvelous life experience of where you were. And I see a lot of people like that in that way. And yet you've come full throttle in a way that you see life differently. You're a very interesting thinker and a conservative thinker, but a lot of it to me is logic. And probably to you today is logic. Common sense. We go, well, Trump even branded common sense in the last inaugural address. Common sense and very logical to us, but yet it's not logical to a lot of these people.
How do we reach more of those people from your experience, from your life? How do we reach them and bring them across to the beauty of the diversity of America? How do we do that? It's very difficult because they're so deeply entrenched in their ideology and they're very reactive. My, my own mother found out I was working for FK and she said, yeah, I can't believe you're working for RFK. He hates vaccines. He's anti-science. He's crazy and like, and so I don't want a personal level that is, it's very challenging because she watches the view, my mom. Your mom should, your mom should Democrat. She's a, yeah, but I think we have to on some level like love these people. It is harder is it's so hard to love your enemy because they hate us, but if we don't at least we've tried hate. It's not working out so good. So what if we try to love? I know it sounds corny, but I don't know what else to do because you can't, you can give them all the facts in the world. I can give my mother all these facts that RFK is science-based and he is
researches solid. They, they can't let go of that idea. If you can't hit them intellectually, it has to be almost either spiritually or emotionally at a place of love and compassion because they're victims because I have to remember, I just think, you know, like they did. So that's why I'm saying. Yeah, so, but I think maybe because I'm an artist or more receptive to other ideas and you got to have a thick skin, you know, in this business because yeah, yeah, you know, I think I have a thick skin, like I know how people want to kill me. They hate me. Yeah, that's the same as me, same as me, same as me. I don't take anything personally. I don't take it personally. You hate me. You know, why are you here? Like, why do I want my page? Tell me over and over again, you hate me. It's like, I get it. You hate me. Okay. That doesn't bother me. But it does when it's personal with your family, you know, and it really, it's really hurtful and a lot of families are suffering from this, this culture of clash and it's really an intractable problem. And I think, well, if you want to get into theories, I've noticed that whatever COVID, either the disease itself
or the vaccine did something to people's brains because people are not as smart as they were five years ago, just look around you, leaving people I know like something happened. They can't, they can't. Well, there is truth to that. There is some truth to that with brain fog and some of the injuries of the brain, the brain cells. There is some logical truth to that, by the way. Yeah, that I'd love to see because I'm just saying anecdotally, like I knew it was, like, all my heroes are gone, man. I have, but the here, here's the thing, like I have new heroes now, you know, I lost my old heroes at COVID because everybody lost their minds and they guess, let me to say that I'm crazy and that I should be centered in ban screaming at me and on this, you know, I walk you walk into a restaurant and if you don't be masked and they scream at you, but they want you to sit down, you're fine. It's like, well, you just wanted to kill me saying, I'm killing people, like COVID knows if I'm standing or sitting like, this is illogical. And when I would say it's illogical, they would say, I'm crazy. You know, when COVID was happening, as you're going to love this, we went out for my wife and I and my two kids, they, they were, well,
there's a few years ago, so they weren't in college yet. So high school, they were still old, they were in high school kind of thing, you know, and yeah, we were going out for dinner. Whatever night it was, you know, the weekend and COVID was in full throttle and people going crazy and all, but to go out for dinner and whatever, I didn't do the mashing or any of that stuff, what have you. And, you know, so, so we got the reservation to a place we went to often and often it's very nice place. And we get up there and they wouldn't let me come in. They wanted us to wear a mask and they said, well, you have to wear a mask to walk to the table. And then when you get to the table, you can take them off and do your thing, but then you got to take them and put them on when you come out. I said, what? They said, you have to wear them to go. I said, I'm not putting your mask on. Well, sir, you, that's our policy. Said, well, and this is a place I frequent and they knew me. And I said, well, let me tell you my policy. I said, I like to. Yeah, let me tell you my policy right there. Yeah. And so Anthony and, you know, so then I,
we didn't go in there. We didn't go in there, right? And I left and I said to kids and I called another place and I said, do you require the mask thing? Or maybe we drove to the second one. I don't know. We didn't get in either again. And there was the third one and we didn't get in there. Finally, I called a play. I said, this is nonsense. So they all required a mask and all this said, you know, there's a place that might not. I'm thinking it's right near the river. It's a nice cool place to hang out and it's off the beaten pass. So no one's going to really not. Yeah, I think I'll call them. They said, hey, and you know, they, they, they know me again and said, you know, we've been there many times. It's been a while. And I said, you, you're required the mask thing when you come in there and all that. She said, no, she said, we're not doing any of that. She great. I'll be right over for dinner. We went right over, right? Well, I love that. You said, let me tell you my policy. And I say the same thing to YouTube. I violated your community standards. Like, no, you're violating my community standards because you're lying and censoring and shadow banning. And without any due cause, you're violating the standards
Western civilization. So, you know, we got to flip it around. We got to flip it around. That is a perfect way to say it. Do you have a book out too? Do I, do I have that wrong or do you? Oh, it's not out yet. I'm putting together a monograph of my work. Oh, man. It's cool. 40 years of a subversive thought crimes. But yeah, coming soon, coming soon. All right. I didn't know if you had, but I don't know why I even asked that, but I thought maybe the best one. You have such a story to tell. I figured you must have something, you know. Yeah, I've been thinking just recently. I said to my wife, I said, you know, I got to write this book before next July, because we're going to be doing something special in July, Anthony, for nobody knows this, but by the time people see this and hear this, they will know it in 2026. We will be, well, I'll just tell everybody now. Let's be the first place you might be here. Well, but it depends when you're hurt. So when you're seeing it, but we will be having a major event in 2026 in July. By the way, our country turns 250 years old, our semi-quinsentennial as a nation. Yeah. And America out loud turns 10 years old.
2026. We lost in 2016. So we'll culminate in those two magnificent moments and we're having a big event, a two and a half day event to celebrate right there on July 2nd, 3rd and 4th. In Nashville, Tennessee. Sounds good. I'll be there. I hope you will. I hope you will. Bring some of your art with you, please. And but we are having that. It's going to be a phenomenal time. There'll be some interesting things happening. You'll be here and more and more about it. It'll be up on the site. And a lot of people will be seeing this. It will sell out. It'll be a big deal. We're taking the whole hotel over downtown there. And it's going to be quite fast today. It's going to be fun. 10-year celebration and 250 years of this magnificent country that we're fighting for every day. Yeah. There are so many things we can talk about my friend. And it's just you're really impressed with you. Just everything. The first time I met you, but I'll tell you what I surely hope it's not the last man. You have a great story to tell
really and truly Anthony, and your work that you've done. And the fight we're on, the fight of good and evil. That's where kindred spirits in that fight aren't we? Amen. It's the animating contest of liberty as eternal. Yeah. I'm grateful that you spend some time here with me on this project out loud. As we do this a little differently than a lot of the media, not to grandstand them for the camera or act them like lunatics or using language or a blown smoke. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you so much. It's really, really great pleasure. I want to meet you. It's a privilege here. We'll do it again here. Anthony Frieda, a privilege here. And okay, friends, that's a wrap. You know the story at this point. And check out Anthony's site as well. What's the website? Real quick, Anthony. Anthony Frieda.com. Okay, Anthony Frieda, F-R-E-D-A. Yeah. .com. Yeah. It's where you get the check it out, please. And go look at some of the stuff he's doing. It's quite a story here. We all can do that and maybe support this guy a little bit too.
It'd be cool. So, friends, that's it. That's it. That's a wrap here. Thanks for joining us here. Project out loud. It's time to get involved and get loud.
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