Awards! Kansas Regular Season Awards: The Wrongies

0:00Oh, Mac was a little late on the countdown. There it is. Welcome to another episode of Could Be Wrong with Mike Vernon, Kevin Meckley, Kevin T-Han, I am Nick Schwart, the Kansas J-Hawks, or want to know in the post Ain't It Fun, being Dog's era. Did we save the season? Some are saying. Others are nodding in agreement. All I know is KU, hashtag, re-apholstered the cats on Saturday, had some things go their way, shout out BYU, and now the three seed in the Big 12 tournament which gets started this weekend on the Cyber Court in Kansas City. I feel like the vibes are trending in a very positive direction here as we enter the post season, boys. Fives are up. Fives are up. How can they not be up after that? We know a couple things. We know that Melvin has now got a new look with a headband. We think that'll last.

1:04Brad Hawks. This is the most braided team we've ever had. No, without a doubt, I've done a lot of research. It's a 100% more braided than any other team. We know that it's just facts. D.P. finished a game and was smiling. Did you finish five games? He was smiling. He was finishing it, but he was smiling, showing a little emotion. He liked that feed from Big Paul for the dunk. He's been waiting all year. He's really just been pissed about Paul. He came here to play with Paul. That's why he wasn't finishing games. He was sitting out in protest. Paul's in the doghouse and Darren's like this bill guy. It's not. It wouldn't no talent. It even the face.

2:04Best players sitting on the bench. We forgot one. D.P. reiterated, which I don't know how I feel about players needing to say this. The quote did get taken grossly out of context by a local reporter, mind you. But he did agree. He did reiterate after the game that he does love Kansas. He loves Kansas. And he loves. He went out of his way. It's like when Bill builds like random four minute monologue in the middle of this year about how the narratives were BS. And then five days later, he Oklahoma state happened and he just ditched about there. Not in five minutes. By the way, by the way, by the way, I know you asked a question about Paul. I know you asked about anything. The question was really about Melvin kissing the court and the story that had got floated out earlier in the season that early in the week that

3:07Darren said he wouldn't talk to Melvin if he kissed the J. Hawk logo. And that is what Darren's response was to. Regardless, we're getting playful D.P. Hashtag playful D.P. Being a little playful on the court. Being a little playful with it. And fun. And fun. And fun. That's a question. I was like, wait a minute. Mike, do you know? Has D.P. heard the song? Can you confirm? No. No, I would know. I would be willing. I can confirm pretty much everyone else. I have no idea if D.P. has heard the song. Wait, you can confirm everyone else has seen it? Who is everyone else? Oh, Doc Sadler. Doc has seen it. I want a list right now, Mike. I want a list of guys you can confirm. Melvin. Melvin saw the song. Wilder. Evers. Do we know? Do we know? Scholarship Eves. Did they like this song?

4:08Let's keep moving on. They didn't learn. No, I'm just kidding. No, they said it was awesome. They didn't tell me this. I'm a second hand. I'm not. Okay. Just second hand scoop and these scoops here. I want to know. For all the KU players listening to this podcast, comment. Let us know. Doc Sadler reaction video. That just that comment made me really happy. Yeah. Everyone has heard it. So Sheila, I think the guys have heard it. That's what sources say. Even kids of city radio played it. Yeah, they did. Which by the way, they don't they didn't have our permission to do that. Good point. Oh, stand by. Stand by for RAM. Should I do something about that? Yeah. Yes. And they should have to apologize to every one of us by name. Full name, middle initial, middle name. I made it a point not to ever say anything negative

5:09about local press, but I'm just not about Fesco fan. So I'm more than happy to send a just sternly written letter to six, 10, Odyssey, and Bob Fesco, if you guys think it's worthwhile. Well, you could be like, I'm not going to write it. It could be additional content. And we're in the content business. So it's all for the bit. It's good. I committed to the bit. Yes, they have to have us on. They have to fly us all in for the face to face apology. We we will hear their apology with an open heart and an open mind. Sure. Do you guys think, and by the way, we're going to get to our regular season awards. The first annual rongies will be coming your way coming up here in a little bit. But back on the song and the big 12 tournament this week, the games will be played on the T-Mobile Center's new cyber court, which I imagine all the coaches in the big in the players across the big 12 have

6:13got to just be thrilled about testing out this new technology right before the NCAA tournament begins being a little some guinea pigs out there in KC. Do you think we could hack into the cyber court and play the ain't it wrong lyric video in between games or maybe in a timeout during the KU game. I mean, I'm not a hacker, but I'm sure someone you don't need to be. You don't you don't need Mike's in tech Mike's AI with AI all the things are possible vibe hacking. Why you know, why even play these games. The AI will play them and it will do it better than the players could eat. It'll be more true and accurate. It's Kippom and Jesse's real dream. I also don't talk about local media. We're gonna 10x we're gonna 10x there's just zeroes and ones all over the court. There is there are no players. It's just pure none of us will know what's happening, but like it'll be

7:14like just going fire and off and then you're like, we'll see what it gets us in five minutes. It's just a robot boy. Kansas wins. Everyone's like, yes, that was awesome. That's great. I'm glad I brought my family to that. That's all you need now. Yeah, that's it. That's it. I'm pretty sure you can vibe play basketball. How do we how are we feeling about this the court that the big 12 is going to be using. Bill Self did you guys see Bill Self's quote about it today here on Hawk Talk. He said quote, the J. Ox had a short practice on the new court today. Self said the court quote doesn't have the same traction as Alan and other courts K. He's played on. He's glad the team got 30 minutes on the court today. Me think he, me think he, they don't like it. Yeah, that's the scoop. Players not happy. That includes that includes

8:15that includes that includes there and listener. I was just about to say, I don't even feel about Darren playing on. He should ice rink. Is it an ice rink? Like, are they actually he just send them out on roller blades to send a message? Can they get them like stick them for shoes? I'll be with him. He'll be really shoe stuff right now trying to figure out how to what shoes to wear. And I hate this because the Darren, the KU vibes are back up. The Darren vibes are very high. Yeah, they are. Don't, I don't want this bullshit to derail our vibes. Seven days before the NCAA tournament begins. If they refuse to play, are they a five seed? If they just said, you know what? It's a stupid glass court and we're not going to do it. Are they a five seed classic KU fan question, but for

9:15different reasons this year. Yeah. Like, it's always like, we don't, don't why play these games. We're always coming up with a reason to not play in the middle of time. This isn't all time. New one, which is just we can't throw up the vibes of Darren. So serious question though. Do you guys think there is a chance that Darren would be like, I'm not playing on this? Yeah, I hope this was spot. There's definitely a chance. You guys have been paying attention this season. Yeah, I'm not going to. I don't think they will, but like, I just imagine like a Marco and Jamari just like bloodied up and bruised from falling all over this thing. And Darren just sitting there in the chair off to the side like clapping, like kind of half clapping. You guys are doing great. Bill's like, don't get a rest. I just want to know we're relying on the sitting now. I just want to note that before this announcement that they were doing this court, the big 12 was touting and feeding to reporters that they have, they had a massive game

10:21changing announcement to make the big 12 tournament. And I remember getting that notification on my phone and I was, we were at the KU game. I think it was the Arizona game. And I was sitting next to my wife and I told her that and she said, what can you change about the tournament? It's not like they're going to be like playing on a different like surface or like, what are you going to, what's going to be different about the tournament? Well, New Court. All right, yet George says Darren needs to play. I disagree. I'm excited about the court. I'm maybe the only one. I kind of like the court. I think it's something different. This is the, it is different. I think it's cool. I don't know why I like it, but I like it. I mean, it'd be, it'd be different if they made all the players where those like motorcycle helmets with like Mohawks and stuff on them too. That would be different. Just think of murder ball. No mark. The possibilities are endless with this.

11:22Like you could win somebody lays down on the cool like falls down on the court. You immediately just do like the outline of their body. Like they died and when they get up, like you could do so much cool stuff. You can, you're confusing. It would be cool if guys like us were in charge of the game. But instead, it's going to be the big 12 tournament. So they're just going to be like, here's the logo 3D. Yeah. I don't think it's going to be cool. And also, did we reach a point in this sport where people were like, we've got to do something about these surfaces, you know, the same ones we've been using for 130 years, but they're not working anymore. I don't know what this is. Jayhawk is gritting. The Jayhawk has come to life and it's gritting in the middle of the court. Sick. It's dude perfect. Put all the back edges together. Oh, man. You should have hired. Should I ask? Think about ours. Mike's been on that train for

12:33a couple of years now. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Jared Kelly has a good question. He says, Mac, did you like it when they played that outdoor game on the aircraft carrier? Absolutely. I did too. It was obviously a disaster. It was pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I'm like, hey, you didn't play any of the people falling all over the place, but I thought it was cool. Yeah. I want to play a game wherever just televised it, put it. I'm in on this. I don't care what you guys say. Clip the video with someone who's hurt. You're going to be like, Mac was the one who said he loved this freaking court. You can't say that. Are you going? Are you going to be at any of the games, Mac? I think I am. I don't know which one yet. I got to work it out. It can't be that slick. I bet it's a little bit different, but Mike, I mean, have you heard that it's legitimately, they're like, we cannot stay on two feet.

13:34Not like that. No, I think they just got there and they were like, what the fuck is this? I can already see the tweet from Mac when he's at the arena taking a video of the court being like, I know people don't like this, but it's actually pretty cool. It's 100% right. It's a good voice. Okay, so KU is somehow some way the three seed in this tournament, which seems like it's not that much of a difference from being the four seed, but what it does mean is that if everything were to go chalk, you would get to face TCU in your first game instead of the five seed, which is Iowa State, which is massive. That's one game where you would likely be a single digit underdog versus TCU. You're probably going to be a six, seven point favorite. I don't know. I don't have Kim Palm pulled up right now, but that's a massive boost, not even because I'm worried about

14:36NCAA tournament seeding, but because like we said last week, KU desperately needs to keep adding to the vibe train right now. They need to keep building momentum heading into the NCAA tournament after the stinky little stretch in Arizona last weekend. Okay, better Arizona weekend was a joke, by the way. Are we writing it off? No, I mean, it was taken unciirously by the staff in the players. Sorry, don't have the team stay overnight in Arizona for a few days in this coaching staff. Golf will be played, practice will be canceled. Pull side margaritas. I don't know if they're margaritas. Pull side fun will be had. They dicked around and then they dot pumped for it. Maybe they bonded though. Is this a scoop or is this a scoop? Yeah, of course. How much of that was a scoop and how much were you filling in? Everything it's said for margarita, but you can confirm pull side cocktails and golf.

15:43I can't. Golf, I don't know. You think that the coaching staff was there for that overnight for a weekend and didn't get out to golf course in Scottsdale? There was practice canceled, practice moved up one day. You think they're like pre next day or 36. Prep or 36? I don't know. We're gonna watch a little film from that zone of game and we're gone. Okay, so we can take this one of two ways. You can interpret this information one of two ways. Option A, what the fuck is going on? Why don't they care? Option B, if they don't care, they maybe know something we don't know, which is that you're not supposed to care about those games. Which side are we gonna go on? They thought it was bonding. They thought it was bonding. They might have. Wouldn't a road win be better bonding than no, it's like the top gun monster dude. They play volleyball like they could be coming like a

16:43like a like a thing. So sweaty. I don't think that's what it was what was going on, but but it didn't the top gun montage. They're like kick asset volleyball and in this one they're like together. They have a wet fart against one of the worst teams in the big 12. Not playing them being kick asset partying. So it's they play volleyball getting a plain jet boom bomb. So it's more of a varsity blue situation where they were bonding all together at an establishment and then did not play well the next game. It's probably closer. More of a varsity blue situation. Okay, so if we put that into a blender, are we left with a team that even though they went on to an Arizona actually came out. We might have. And they wouldn't because that I'm on board with. They woke. What if that's what they this was for playing all along? They're like, yo, you guys met Paul. This guy's huge. I get him involved. Bro, you're all right.

17:48What's your name? Oh, this guy's you. Oh, you guys want Paul? All right. Cool. Okay. Um, they actually, I'm actually in on that then. Throw it out. So that week didn't happen. Oh, throw it out. That weeks for suck bag losers. Okay. And in Belguez. All right. Um, well, then if they want to keep, if they want to keep that going, then like them all deciding as a team, they're not going to play on this court this week. Might be another bonding opportunity. In unison, we're going to tell the big 12. We're not doing this. We're not going to be a part of your little experiment. That was going to play out a weekend too. Bill keep saying how close they are. This team is so close. I don't know if I've ever heard that much team closeness discussion.

18:49And maybe he's like, I don't know if they can win any games, but they damn it. They're really good friends. And that's the one. And it felt because last year's team hated each other. Also scooped. Have you heard the same thing though, Mike, that this team is very close? Yeah. Yeah. I've heard it since before the year and I put it out like they legit. Yeah, they fuck with each other. They are close. They were able to, they've had hard conversations. Been able to get after each other, had meetings where they tell people like, yo, you're not doing your part. And it sounds pretty healthy. Like not singling one out alone. Like they all take their medicine generally. And to me, that sounds like what it should be. There's been accountability, serious talk. They've played around. They barked. They just met Paul like it's good. So yeah, no, they really do like each other. They genuinely hang out. And I don't, that's not a joke.

19:58Yeah. What will you guys need to see from this team this week to convince yourself that they can do something special in the journey? Yeah, assuming that the floor is not a factor. And it's not just a bizarrely weird tournament. Yeah, assuming somewhat normal. What would like was one way like is getting to the is getting to the semis? Is that enough? What is enough? Like what is, what does enough mean? Like in Hamilton, like that'll be enough. I mean, that's you, you can define it however you want. But is enough for who? You. I mean, no, we're Kansas. I'm not going to, if I can take a loss and be happy. But like,

21:00basically getting out of there without hurting our chances of, you know, attorney run is, is I guess also enough? I don't know. I don't know how to answer it. Well, okay, then just think about it. Don't think about it as enough. I'm asking, what do you want to see to convince you that like this team can win four games and get to a final four? Well, they got to work their new guy in. Okay. So Paul's got to get in there. Uh, no. Um, good ball movement with Darren involved and like that's honestly pretty much it and like not have them get exposed in the front court. Maybe a good little like tiller or tray moment. I don't even think I want El Marco to go because like his, well, it's Jayden Dawson now. They'll self said, cold Saturday and cold. Oh, Jayden Dawson's going to win this team of game. Classic freshman breakout, KU player. We've had a few in the big talk, attorney over the years,

22:07mostly periales, but they're having others. Silvio? Silvio. Absolutely. Yes. Colvio. Silvio. Just use that colro. Sorry. Yo, Nick, I'll answer your question since my point. We need to beat. I didn't understand it. We need to win a game. First of all, like we can't lose that game. Like vibes will be down, right? We need to win that game. And then we need to play Houston close or win. And then I think I'll be just fine. Like if you lose to Houston, that's an elite eight game, right? I mean, so it's like whatever. Like if you lose a close one to Houston in the tournament, it's a close one to an elite eight team. Like it's a, it's a game to go to the final four. So like if you play them close and it becomes a 50-50 game down the stretch, like I'll take that right now for this tournament for this team. Get to an elite eight and have a 50-50 chance to get to a

23:11final four. 100% I'll take that right now. So yeah, like give me a win and hopefully another win and then like vibes are all the way up. I don't care what happens if we get to the championship. But vibes are up even if we, in my opinion, as long as we play well, like play well, defend, like defend the way that we need to defend. Get DP going downhill the way he has been because man, that's fun to watch. And get that two-man game going with Florey and like that team is unstoppable. You get, and you got guys making three-pointers. Like that's, that's the recipe. I agree with everything you said. I might say I think they need to win that game against Houston. Assuming it's Houston who knows BYU maybe goes on some sort of a run and gets there. True. I can't really see anybody else. I think K-State is on that line in West Virginia. But it's not that beating Houston would really prove anything that we haven't already seen from this team. I mean, you already beat them. Granted, it was at your place. But we know K-You can beat

24:14good teams. We've seen it. I think the Houston thing would just be momentum. It would just be like you're playing good ball against good teams at the right time. Because if you beat TCU, as much as we're all glad that they drew that line instead of having to face up against Iowa State, if you beat TCU, none of us are really going to be like, oh, watch out. Hawks just took down the frogs. It's going to be like, okay, yeah, that's the game we wanted for that reason. But then if you follow that up with another loss to Houston, it's going to be tough to look back on the previous two weeks and say like, yeah, what do you have four losses in your last seven games? That's not exactly the five you want. Like if it's a close game and they play well, like Houston's good. Like they're really good. So I guess I don't care that much as long as they play well and they come out of it positive. I agree. I hate this on though. I want more. But will I be upset? Well, Mike, will you be upset about the what he asked you

25:14because it's March? It's to go deep in the tournament. What do you want to see? And if you only settle for it, well, they need to win it. They need to win it all. Or we don't like, honestly, though, I'll take that take because that's the way we've done most of our final fours. It's winning this tournament in the big 12 and then taking that momentum on to a championship four or five or four, like 2012 and did 2018. 2018, I feel like did right because that was the year where Silvio, that was the Silvio reference. That was the Silvio year. Yeah, they won the big 12 tournament that year in 2012. They did not win the big 12 tournament. They lost to Baylor. Okay. Okay. That's good. We need to know that we can lose until go. It's possible. It's possible to not win this and still go to a final four. Yeah. Yeah. Just use a little hot.

26:19Five. She's not bad at all. Dave's punch. Eight of their last is eight of their last nine. Is that correct? Jamie Dixon's hair is popping around. It'll be great. He'll be like palms up, looking at Fran, looking at Bruce Weber smiling down. I don't know. He's fun to beat. Jamie Dixon is fun to beat. Yeah. For everybody. Yeah. I like it. This would be this is probably the toughest big 12 tournament ever, ever, ever. Yeah. I thought that might be met with some pushback, but then I don't pay obvious. You have what six teams. Oh, like our path, though. I mean, like Iowa State is the five. Yeah. It's nuts. Oh, I like that. Take from meck a week early on. We like our path. We lost the path. We love the path. He's getting that juice me up too. That juice me up too. Oh, I like that a lot.

27:21Okay. Should we, do you guys want to get into any more about the tournament or should we get into the wrongies? What's our prediction? Look at the odds. We're like eight to one or something. Eight to one. I think they'll just win the whole thing. They'll just win the whole thing. I think they beat Houston. I do not think, I know Houston's getting tossed around as like a title contender yet again this year. I think of the last like four or five years when Samson's had that place rolling. I think this might be the worst team of that bunch. I agree. I also think KU matches up pretty well with them, which we saw. We don't shoot threes. That's not which helps. And they don't really score, which also helps. Kelvin Fraudson. Also, Darren owns Kelvin. We forgot about that. Darren hates Kelvin. Darren owns Kelvin. Oh, I did forget about that. We're beating Houston. So

28:28if you're looking for value, anyone else, I take anyone else in this tournament. I don't even care. If we went to the title game and got flogged by Arizona, I wouldn't even care. Is there one team you agree, Mac? Oh, yeah. Are you kidding? Okay. Yeah, we've already seen it. It's not going to hurt that bad. What agitate you the most salutes to in the title game between the likely candidates or what? Iowa State, Arizona, Texas 10. That's it. I was state would agitate me the most. I just think you're just because it's Iowa State. Well, I'm TJ. I'll sell there again. I'm here to win the big 12 tournament. What? The also workers Swedish? No? Yeah, of course. Of course, always has been. I think it was Austrian. This is our big match up. This is the big moment.

29:30He loves. He loves to build self-invitational. I love it. We go down to the airhouse, falling apart a little bit. Get it back. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Bring me back. Jeff. No, I like. I like. I like your also burger. I just want you to fine tune it. I want you to fine tune it. What if he's the next coach that can't stay off? Okay. In a year. Actually, you know what? Before we get to the wrong, we have to touch on that because you said we're very, very vague tweet out on Saturday before the games. I don't know what's going on with Bill, but let's just enjoy the ride. It's the same thing I've said every episode. There were people tweeting that Bill is done or remember like that rumor is going to be out there. I don't know. I don't think Bill knows. That was me being super honest, not having an answer, saying, I don't know if it is. I don't know if it isn't. I don't know. Bill knows.

30:32It's just enjoy it. Make sure to enjoy his last, what could be his last game. And if it's not his last game, it's his second or last senior night. If we're going to touch on it, I need some odds. Fuck my off. Did you guys see, did you guys, did you guys see his integrates Matt Norlander today? He's telling people he's coming back. Okay, I sent, I texted the video to you guys. I saw it. I'm going to watch it. Okay. I'll see if I can, see if I can pull it up for you. But paraphrasing, he essentially said Matt was, Matt Norlander was like, you got a couple of years left in you. And he said, he goes, yeah, as long as I feel good, I think I've still got a couple more years in me. He basically was kind of like saying, as long as my body allows me, I'm still having fun. I'm still enjoying it. He did say, he goes, I don't think I don't think this has affected my ability to

31:35do my job. It sounded a little headdew to me. Sure. Sure. How do you think that interview went over whenever he got home? He knew he wants to talk about it. I'll let her interview with Moandier. He knows he's going to get asked. My take is that it was not his last game in Alan Fieldhouse because I don't think he wants to leave Alan Fieldhouse in a game where he gave up 85 points to Kansas State. Do you want me to play the clip? Do you guys want to hear it? Yeah, please. You still got more in the tank though, right, Bill? We're not going to be having a headline here in three, four, five, six weeks, not in three, four, five months that you're stepping away. You've got more years ahead of you as a coach of the Kansas J-Hawks. Well, I think so. Yeah, I think so. As long as I feel good, I don't know why I wouldn't keep doing it. I've had my personal health issues in some way that I dealt with.

32:38Has it been a handicap in me doing my job? I don't think so, but it has, hasn't been a pain in the butt to get through some of the things. Yeah, it has been, but not to the point where it's more than what everybody deals with something. And I just happen to be dealing with some things right now, but I still love the kids and I want to keep doing it, but I'm only going to keep doing as long as I feel well. I mean, I'll be honest with you. And right now, I feel well, so I don't see any reason to stop when things are at least going well from a health standpoint. Okay, so that was I on college basketball, podcast. Yeah, I mean, you can take nothing from that. Nothing. Bill lies. He's done it as all career, like let's just call it what it is.

33:39I believe he believes parts of it, but like it's not rooted in reality. Yeah, he's got the off ramp as long as I feel well. And he could at the end of it be like, I felt really bad most of the year. Yeah, yeah. And even if even if Bill decided, I'm ready to announce he's not going to do it. Correct. The week before the NCAA tournament begins. Trend, then that's all this becomes about is Bill's last ride. He will not do that. Yeah, absolutely will not be making it a distraction from the team, the season, etc. Like it's fine. I said, Bill lies. That's a commendable lie, principled lie. I don't know what I'm going to do. You think the all access is going to go into the residence?

34:42You think they're going to capture Cindy whenever he gets home? No. Bill, I got your cardiatomatrist on the phone. He wants to talk to you as long as you feel well. He heard your little interview. Can you, can we get these levels look like you feel well? Can I get your A1C down, Bill? Is this an A1C issue? I don't know. I thought that was for diabetes. I don't know what he's dealing with. Can we get Jeff being really upset that Nourlein or got that interview and Jeff trying to get a follow-up scoop on it? Well, Jeff talks to Bill all the time. He doesn't look so specific. Yeah, Jeff already knows he's just being courteous to a friend by not spewing it all over the place and putting him on the spot with a question.

35:43Like a friend, Mike. Okay, Jeff is telling Bill that he never would have done that to him. Can I get that? Let's see if Jeff has anything later. He doesn't right now, by the way, but it's actually pretty impromptu. I don't think he got anything else. Fine. Okay, let's get to the wrongies. Let's get to the back. Let's get to our first ever, first ever, 2026 wrongy awards, where we are going to be handing out some regular season awards for the 2026 Kansas basketball season. We got a handful of categories to get to. I want to make it kind of climactic because I think there's you know like best actor, best picture at the Oscars. I think there are some awards that are really the most coveted and I want to save those for later. I'll just go ahead and tease them. I think the sick rich hot badass mofo of the year award is a hotly contested race as is the

36:46suckback loser of the year award. So I want to kind of save those for the end, but let's start with some heat here. Best individual performance of the year. The nominees are Melvin Council versus NC State, Darren Peterson versus Baylor, Flory Badunga versus Arizona, Trey White versus Houston. This one seems pretty obvious to me, but I'm curious what you guys are thinking. What order do we go on? I think you just start with who you think deserves it. There's no question who the winner is here. Melvin. Yeah, it's nice. I will say one thing though. I was at the Baylor game. I was sitting in really good seats and I had a very good look. Oh, I had these good beats. Don't, whatever, it doesn't matter.

37:47I, for the record, I went online and found those and bought them. They wouldn't, they wouldn't gave them too. Oh, even exposure. So he's got a lot of money. Oh, cash flow. It could be in Paul's pocket. He tried to downplay it and you ended up pumping it. It was day of and the price was right. But the point was he was, I've never seen anything like it. As I was sitting there, I just kept saying I've never seen anything like this before. That's the game where he went nine for nine from two point range. In 23 minutes had 26 points. Was that right? Something like that? It was just bananas. Like the guy was, he wasn't even trying. Like it was, it was wild. And so anyway, I, I will say like I, it is 100% Melvin, but I, it was reminiscent of Durant in the first half. Like that was the last time I saw something like that in person that I was like, holy shit,

38:51this guy is unreal. I think that was the peak DP moment. That was just him at his absolute best. I know there's a, there's multiple DP like halves to choose from the first half first BYU was also great. But the Baylor game was just like unconscious, getting whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted. Whenever it was crazy. Honestly, he needed to shoot more. It was, I, every time down the court, I was like, why isn't he getting the ball? Just let him go. He's, it was wild, unconscious. Yeah. I will say Florey versus Arizona though. Florey versus Arizona, like him in the second half, the way that shifted where KU couldn't get anything inside. Crevoss was dominating the game. And in the second half, Florey just completely flipped the script on him. So that's an honorable mention. But Melvin versus NC State was all-timer, especially the way it played out, where they said,

39:56we're going to let you shoot as much as you want because you can't do it. And if Melvin, like that was the Duan treatment that we saw how many times over the course of the last five years, and seldom did it work. And Melvin, and it was that moment that I think leading up to, we had all talked about. Eventually, somebody's going to dare him. And then it happened. And you could imagine in an alternate reality, what happens if he either doesn't want to shoot those shots, or he misses a bunch of them, what that does to his psyche. But that was the moment where we were like, oh, he's different. Like he lives for this shit. You going to leave him open? Watch. He will fire all game. And for him to hit nine threes, which is what second most in KU history for most threes in a game? Epic, terribly epic game. Terry Brown, did you get the most? 11. Oh, was that 11? Did Vic get 10 against Stanford? You're right. You're right. So I think it was

40:57second, second most. The we're, I think part of the reason we're so bullish on the potential of this team is we have some great single game performances. Like any given year, any of these could win. I'm not positive about Trey White first Houston. First half of DP. Yeah. Yeah. No, these are great. It became his name and also because because of the Darren showing that day too. And it was kind of a dark time for all of us. And Ainut Fum was born that night. This is, this is unanimous, unless Mac. Yes, just agrees. Bill called it. It was a former that I've had on the road in 23 years as they had coach at Kansas. It has to be him. I guess that'll be him then. Okay. Uh, that's settled. All right. Next award. What's that go Melvin?

41:57Yeah. Congratulations, Melvin. First time nominee. First time winner. Wow. For Melvin Council. Hey, I could see another wrongy in Melvin Council's future tonight. And I'd imagine he's going to have some fun with that. All right. Next award is. I thought my phone connected to my AirPods. I was like, what the hell have I been listening to? Okay. Next one. This is one of my favorite awards. This is the worst Darren Peterson take of the year award. Okay. Thank you. Um, the nominees for the worst Darren Peterson take are Robbie Hummel saying Darren Peterson should consider sitting out the rest of the season. Dick Vitale saying KU and Darren needed divorce. Steve and I smith saying that Darren Peterson is sitting out because he

43:01didn't get his NIL money. And Seth Greenberg saying that DP's doctors basically need to have a press conference and tell everybody what's going on. This is, I don't know who's going, who's winning this one? I don't think there's a favor. I don't think there's a betting favor. You got guys like, you got guys like Steven A who have not seen more than probably five minutes of Darren Peterson play this season. Okay. Dick Vitale talking about divorce. That's not, that's not funny. Trust me. I don't, I mean, I don't know. You know, it's just not a good topic. You're talking about the break is Jeff. Well, I figured he hasn't been. That's my assumption. But I think he would not like joking about it. If you talk to people, you have talks to people. I can see, I can see Jeff just being like listen. It was an emergency sacrament that it's, it's, it's sacrosanct. Really? If you think about it.

44:11So who is? It's not Greenberg. I actually kind of like this take. Oh, I hate this take. I kind of like, I kind of like, I want, we wanted to, I wanted to know. I actually kind of way worse out there. No, it was, look, it was not a good take. But compared to the three, I think it's, not so creepy, the human equivalent of the nothing to see here on me. And where, Leslie Nielsen is the president in the White House. It's exploding behind him or whatever. He's saying nothing's happening. You know, I think he's going for the doctors to, I have a, I have a, somebody who I think should win. And I think the criteria, it makes sense to me. Let me explain. I know that of the four nominees, Robbie Hummel is probably like the most milk toast, the least explosive. However, the other guys are giving takes that make sense in the take

45:18environment. Robbie Hummel is essentially saying, I don't care if he's the best player. He should just shut it down. Don't play basketball. Don't play basketball. I'm sorry that your ligaments were made of Lafay Taffy. Robbie, but like this guy is special and the world deserves to see his talents. And you using your platform telling the world like, yeah, he's honestly, I hate to say it. But he should just consider shutting it down goes against, you're not a basketball fan. Anybody who had that take this year, you're not a basketball fan. If you don't want to see the best player play basketball, therefore, I believe Robbie Hummel should win this award. I actually, I lean Robbie as well. I think you nailed it. Wow. He knows better. Wow. He knows better. That's the lane. He, his take was just extremely lame. Can we give Nick credit for turning into Trump by referring to him as Lafay Taffy Robbie?

46:20Sounds like a Trump nickname for somebody. Yeah, you've done against Jay Hawks and suddenly wants, someone's daring to stop. The answer is Robbie. And the answer is Robbie because Dick Vitale and Stephen A are just so out of a touch that it doesn't matter to your point. Robbie knows better. Robbie knows better. He knows. And also, the thing that he knows better. That's norm. That was just norm, Robert. Just a cross from him. The, the other side of that is everyone said this like this became a thing early on where he should sit out or he's going to sit out or whatever. And Robbie just kind of solidified it from his media seat. And that was early. That was the first take of all these takes. Very early. That's what I'm saying. It's the wrong take and he deserves it. Sorry.

47:21Worse DP take Robbie Hummel. Okay. Congratulations, Robbie Hummel. What about Robbie? I'm going to swap with that bit because everybody's going to be a first time until we get to do all Dick Vitale. You say whatever you want to say. It's kind of where I feel that Dick Vitale. You can just do whatever. You can say whatever. You guys are getting led to mocky. All right. Next award is the best moment of the season. And the nominees are Darren Peterson's late threes against Texan yet. Bill Self celebrating on the court after the Arizona win. Darren Peterson's dunk versus BYU and Melvin council doing the Wabosh Cannonball. There's two top containers in my mind. I want to hear your two because I've got two two. It's Wabosh and Bill. Correct. Wabosh Mel's Wabosh and Bill Self after Arizona. I agree.

48:26The only one I'm comfortable eliminating is Darren's dunk versus BYU. Him. I'm not doing nothing for the entire game versus BYU. First Texas tech on the road and then coming in with two of the most cold blooded threes you'll ever see in your life back to back. That was unbelievable. It's different. They're all great moments for very, very, very different reasons. I'm not ready to put aside Darren's threes versus tech. I want to second that because Darren's two moments, maybe it was amplified because I was standing next to one Mike Vernon during the Darren dunk. That dunk was insane. Insane. I'm cool to toss it, but I'm not cool to get rid of the late threes against Texas tech. When our whole season seems to live and die with him, how could his clutch moment not be the best moment? I love all the other ones, but I would say the tech. They'll never coaches again. I would say like when I'm thinking back on the

49:30season, when I'm just closing my eyes and thinking about the screen shots that I will remember, it's the bill celebrating and it's the Darren threes. The Melbourne moment was cool. It was funny, but it's not like it was just funny. It was just funny. And the other two were like, I had built a ass was pretty good. We have two, we have two. Can we do polls in the comments? The, they're not on the committee. We're on the committee. See, selection committee. Nick has a high understanding. People forget that. He really does. So it's Arizona or Texas tech. Maybe, maybe not. I think everybody just needs to make a vote. Everyone just needs to make a vote. As I feel like we're not going to do a consensus here. What about Darren's road rage? Darren's was like, what was he in the car in the back seat?

50:33He was the sick, he was the sick colleague. Since he's talked about it, I'm going to lobby for Arizona bill. Because this was the moment when I, maybe you can even point to the turning point of the season when he and Bill or he and Darren allegedly got into it, the practices before, he rallied around the guys who we're going to play and he led out the most insane emotion. I've seen in a regular season game, not Missouri, that I've ever seen from Bill. And you just don't see that. And it was a moment I think that we'll see in every montage, we'll see in everything that we see about Bill forevermore. And it was the moment that he, I think, was like, this is my team. Like, these are my dudes.

51:37I'm sold. I'm good with that. I'm good with giving it to Bill. I think we can give it to Bill. He deserves it. You know, he's worked hard. Let's give him a wrongy. All right, Bill. Congratulations, Bill. Bill gets a wrongy. Bill gets of the best moment. All right, next award. Let's go with, okay, we'll do a fun one here. The best cramping accessory. Hmm. And the nominees are TheraGun, heating pads, exercise bike, and banana. I think it's easy. It's the TheraGun, right? For sure. It's the TheraGun. Even though the TheraGun didn't, I don't think it made as many appearances this season as the heating pads. No, because it's innocuous though. They just sit there. Yeah. TheraGun is an

52:40active accessory. It was microphone. It's a Caribbean. It's a TheraGun. Someone says still need an autographed DP TheraGun. Oh, that's so good. God, that would go because she's good million dollars. If they, if he pulls his car going out in an NCAA tournament game and they win, I think that goes in the booth, Hall of Fame. For sure. Dude, had pictures of someone like in the post game line in Allen Fieldhouse trying to get autographs as they're leaving and someone brought a TheraGun and Darren's about to sign it. Mods is like diving across four people. Shutting it down. I could cut it down. Separate the shoulder.

53:40That is rich. I feel like this one's kind of, this one's kind of a slam dunk. We're going with TheraGun for the winner of Best Cramp Accessory. Congratulations to TheraGun, the real underdog story. TheraGun. This year for KBAS. All right, this is the first like big major award. This can be career altering if you win one of these. It is the suck bag loser of the year award. Oh, my God. Oh, wow, big one. And the nominees are Fran Farshilla, Jerome Tang, Doug Sermons, and the student camping leadership team. Oh, oh, what? Corruption. It was correct. They were rigging. They were. What do you mean why weren't they weren't? The burden to prove is not present. This is not, this is not a court of law. It's an award show. Perceptions, everything. You're going to blame those lines. Get a little blurred. Happened to be Jewish.

54:44No, what are you talking about? All right, he played the card and they have been thrown out. There's three nominees. Doug Sermons, Jerome Tang, and Watson's back in. Can we get mods in there? No. No. Well, let's just, we got three. No, we love mods. We love mods. No, Jerome and Fran. The fraternity that happened to be Jewish as the camping leaders. So I know that there's a favorite for this one, but instead of just handing it, I think we should talk about the other two nominees. First, Jerome Tang. Probably not going to win it this year. However, it's probably the last time he's ever going to be nominated for a rungie. Does that influence your choice? You want to make it like a lifetime achievement award. A lifetime suck bag loser. No, I have a lifetime achievement award. I would like to give, though, at the end of this. Okay. Show mine to me. I'm okay. Because here's the thing like Fran, I read your own, Fran in this category for suck bag loser of the year. He could be about to embark

55:50on a Daniel Day Lewis Jack Nicholson type run, which is like, I imagine he's going to be nominated for this every season from here on out. So you have to take that into consideration. It's like, it's like build self with the coach of the year is like, well, that you could you could nominate him every single year, but people just kind of grow tired of it. I don't want to grow tired of Fran, but I also want to respect the fact that like he's going to be in this category every year. But I have no problem inspiring him. You know, he might get this award, he might feel it, touch it, hold it in his hands, realize it says as big as he is. And he might want to chase it, chase greatness one more time, two more times, seven more times. Did you see his feet after the BYU game? It's Fran Tang student camping. And what was the other one? Doug Sermon's. That was my head. You can see the tweet that Fran put out. He said the BYU fan base may have the

56:51best parking lot etiquette in the big 12. Don't think it goes unnoticed. Just super sub tweet of the whole KU parking fiasco. He wants this award. You want me? Mike text me for it. Mike texted me the next day and he said, don't forget this. We brought Fran to his knees. Did I do that? Or is that you? No, you texted that to me, but I've repeated it like eight times. I thought it was in the group. I think he texted it to me. We were talking about something and then I brought it to the group. That's what I, like, that's a moment you want to talk about best moments. That's a moment that's going to live in my head forever bringing Fran for Sheila to his knees. We're in his head. We're in his head. You know, he did it to himself. It was his Heisman moment. It was his Heisman moment and it was his Heisman moment in the midst of

57:56an all-time year for him too. It's not he would have been nominated even without that moment. And then he had it and everybody watching was like, okay, it's his underrated suckback loser part admitting it and then deleting the tweet and blaming someone else on one. That's a good point. That's suck baggy. That's very suck baggy. Yep. All right. All right. Well, Jerome, we missed you. We hardly knew you. I bet we see you again. I just have a weird feeling. He'll he'll pop that up and it's going to be an assistant at Baylor. He's a content machine. Yep. Oh, Fran, congratulations to Fran for Sheila. All right. Next award is the one that got away last of the year. And the nominees are Yukon, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Arizona State. I'll wait a minute. Where's Duke in this?

58:56It was winning the whole game. It was three points with three minutes left, four minutes left. Was it? Yeah, but like you had leads against Yukon. You were up by 10 in the first half first North Carolina, like those feel like more of like what the fuck happened. Yeah, but we as opposed to Duke, we're going up against the number one team in the country without your best player. It didn't feel that I didn't leave that game thinking they let one slip away. I left that game thinking man, they played Duke tight. All right. We got to do the wrongies. More wrong. I hear you, Mack. I was there. Just not nominated. Okay. Didn't didn't get didn't get I like these. Just feels like Duke needs it to be on there. Okay. These are all good. To me, it's Yukon. I don't like losing a home. Should be. Yeah. I would I would like to argue for very briefly for Arizona State. I had convinced myself when they got it tight that we were going to get our Kansas State 2022 unifying road victory.

1:00:05Ultimate comeback show that we're never out of it and it didn't happen. We did it at home. A couple of people are mentioning West Virginia in the comments, but somebody mentions without the West Virginia loss, we don't get the players only meeting. Good. I think West Virginia has to be great. You see out of the running. What about I mean, dude, hey, a lot of good, a lot of good losses this year. I can't all be nominated. The wrongies are sacred. This is a sacred event. We can't nominate everybody. Mike showing a poll for the suckback lose for the year. Fran brought in 72% of votes. That's just overwhelming. We'll never have a suckback lose back. You couldn't so far removed. It's like it's not as vivid in my head as the Arizona State one from a week ago, but that was tough. You led with like two minutes to go. No Darren, but yeah, at home.

1:01:05I'm trying to see here. KU was up with about 12 minutes to go. KU was up 44 to 38. I guess it's not that overwhelming, but still at home. Those are the games you expect to just kind of pull out late. That one was just it was maddening. It was really agitating because he was supposed to play in that he didn't. Yeah, we're we're promised the boy. I think because now that we've moved on to the idea that the Arizona State game doesn't even really count or matter. Good point. My vote goes to Yukon. Yeah, I mean, how can you argue with a game that doesn't matter being the loss of the year? Yukon. It's Yukon. Yukon. Yukon. Yukon. In the conspiracy theory lives, by the way, that Bill wanted out. Sermons did him a favor. Okay, I like that. I like that. All right, we've got a few awards left coming up. We still got to get to the

1:02:08Rich Hot Badass Motel for the year award and the best win. But our next category is the best Bill self-quote on Darren Peterson's health. And the nominees are, and this is one I found myself. So I'm open to if we want to nominate one on the fly, I'm okay with that. It's never been done before, but here's what I have for the best quote on DP's health. Before the Fort Hay State game, quote, he's got to bugger something. Before the Texas A&M Corpus Christi game, his hamstrings tight, we're not going to risk it. And after the Oklahoma State game, we thought we were past this. Are there any quotes missing for the best Bill self DP quarter of the year? Yes, there have to be. You got a last minute nominee. You set it up as if you had one. Right. Well, I got a looking here. He, I mean, like 50 times said, we're in better shape.

1:03:13I've been seeing him the last couple of days. Let's see. Well, yeah, there were a lot of quotes, but we're looking for the best one. I don't anticipate, I don't anticipate holding him anymore from this point forward, October 31st. I think all those point to the Oklahoma State one. We thought we were past it. He was so mad. Yeah, it's not a question. That's the one. Because I think that's the one that, like since then, it's kind of worked. Let's go prove it. Go prove it versus play. Jared Kelly says play. If you're, he wants to nominate if you're going to play don't have acid, the guy's text about Bill's self's quotes. That's not confirmed. But if it is true, that would be the number one quote of the year. Legally, I don't think we can nominate that one. Here's legally.

1:04:14I think legal recourse. I'm going with Oklahoma State. We thought we were past it. I agree. Quick. Oh, no. But now. Yeah. That was, that was like the boil over. Oh, no, there are 50 boil overs. Yeah. There's only game. The flu one was pretty wild. Yeah. Like we found out right before tip off. Doc said he couldn't go. The doc said he couldn't go. Yeah, I can't wait. Okay. Um, congratulations to Bill's self. He was all the nominees there. Okay. Three categories left. The next one is the biggest season altering event. Ooh. And the nominees are beating Arizona without Darren Peterson. Players only meeting after the West Virginia loss. And the release of Ain't it fun being dogs

1:05:14by Kevin Meckley. I don't want to have a, I don't want to have a sentimental blind spot here. Same. I mean, you know, we have to act like I think Meck has to abstain from voting here. Candidly. Or maybe he has to be the only vote. There have to be. Are there more? Are there any more moments season altering moments, season altering, ripping Aida or eight and row off? That was after players only. That's not a moment. That's the UI. I don't think that was it. All right. I'm sorry. Can you tell me what changed after Dolly's DIY? He came back and we won Ain't Row. Fair. I think another one I would like to nominate was Bill saying, you want to change the narrative? Play. What? Here's my, here's my issue. Here's the reason why I don't think that was

1:06:16nominated is because we don't know that that actually altered the season. For all we know that was already kind of like taking place behind the scenes. Fair. You know, it wasn't, what wasn't taking place behind the scenes is a rendition of Paramore's hit single Ain't It Fun. That didn't happen until Meck made it happen. Yeah. Henry, problem is, we have much smaller sample size with how that altered the season versus the first two. Agreed. However, it's not the size that matters. You can't, you can't prove that it is. That's true. That's true. That's great. Right now we are taking the information that we've got in front of us. Checking on the fan pull. I really like the players only meetings. Players only meeting is we have a soft spot for players only meetings. Let's

1:07:18just call it what it is. We all do. That's correct. Okay. How about this? I got a hearing on the players only meeting the first one. Seven one five. Seven one five was consumed. I don't know that it was there. I don't know where, where it was eaten could have been carried out at the mansion. That's what they called the dorm and Darren picked up the check. That's and that's not a cheap check. That's not, that's not a Henry T's check or everybody's checking out for $80. Seven one five. That's a couple hundo for his amount. He's being paid. Yeah, that really gets into his hand and for a guy a kid 18 years old to have the wherewithal to be like it would be a bad look if I didn't pick up this check. We know we all know everybody knows adults who wouldn't do that because they're just either they lack the self-awareness or they're cheap bastards. Darren neither of those things

1:08:23okay if he's a good if we get if we give them the players only meeting if we if we give the wrong e to the players only meeting can we give song of the year to Mac. Oh, yeah, close. I don't know what it's close with but it's close for something Mac be honest Mac you have to be honest here. Who would you vote for? You can say your song this is not a song if you believe it's the right answer. It was players only meeting it was the song what was the other one? Meeting Arizona but it's those two. Look I objectively I think players only meeting has to be the winner. But we don't know yet like we don't know yet. That's a that's a very important one. Yeah, these are their regular season. And it's unlike could have like because what

1:09:24do you mean there's only meeting since then? Like honestly what are they like six and five? I don't know. No, they were good. It was good. That's true. They had ripped off a bunch and they were tough hitting a row after that. But I will say this but like Mac that's things like you know artists our artists always say they don't get in it for the awards. But this could be one of those things where you look back on like the best picture from 20 years ago and it's some foreign film winning over forest gump. And you're like they really missed the mark there. So maybe that'll be the case with any fun like any fun could be the one that's timeless. And we'll look back on and say wow should a one. I just also want to say there's a good nominee here from Bougie the Tennessee team interview because that was a moment I think we all really fell love with this team decided that this team was fun. But that was just really them letting us kind of see what they were like you know as opposed to I don't know if that changed anything it just changed our perception. I'm like oh this

1:10:28seems fun. Okay we've got two awards left and there are two big ones. Wait what one players only yeah also won it won the fan poll and won the fan poll okay all right best song of you win best win of the year and the nominees are Arizona Iowa State Texas Tech in Houston for good teams for really good teams at the top of the big 12 you got wins against all of them to me this is a two this is a two horse race I'm curious if you guys have a lean I'm gonna go against the grain and and argue for Texas Tech road game you're expecting to win timely we were talking about whether we could win

1:11:32all five as Kevin mentioned and we had started what two and oh was this the third of the five oh and it was then it was BYU the people want to see here yeah it went it went Iowa State Baylor Colorado K state BYU Texas Tech okay that was the sixth win in that winning streak but we were talking about the the gauntlet of and then Arizona all I'm saying is this was maybe the one that was I don't want to say most surprising but probably to me the biggest except the Arizona one is the most obvious so I'm kind of arguing against like what the obvious to obvious might be too so I said there were two nominees I think the two are Arizona and tech and the reason is because I remember after the tech game we came on here and talked about that's the biggest win of the year

1:12:37because we all looked at it and we said we caught Arizona on a night where they were sleep walking in our building we were juiced and they got got and the game was over quick Texas Tech was like oh and we can go beat good teams on the road granted no Christian Anderson but that was still like that one of the better road wins and what four or five years a while in the way the way it panned out too where they just got a bunch of stops late and then Darren went sick of mode the TCU game was fucking nuts sure for the record absolutely but it's not honorable mention yeah honorable mention they were down like 10 last minute awesome game great game right you're right it's the all right the field house it's the field house that the tech game was awesome that game was the most like what the fuck just happened well that in TCU however no love for joccaro

1:13:40the answers Arizona that was that was an all-time epic Allen field house like all-timer one of the one of the most juiced that building has ever been at least in my lifetime and to beat the previously undefeated number one team in the country without your best player it had everything like that's that's the answer right it's it's a lot of people are watching it's not unanimous tech was sick oh I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with tech but Arizona's the winner I get that Mike you could be the deciding vote here just go Arizona it's fine we'll go Arizona okay you're making that on your own accord yeah all right people congratulations here's on a 65 percent of the vote Texas Tech 28 percent all right this is the final award this is the final award of of the night it's the biggest award of the night I'm talking about a lot of time

1:14:42achievement dude I'll let you present your lifetime achievement award after we get to this so that can be uh that can be a little dessert the final award of the night is the sick rich hot badass mofo of the year award and the nominees are melvin council darin matzubara mm Alan field house and darin Peterson what about goodman not nominated not okay even the preseason favorite nubbed the preseason favorite would have been dp by a mile and on this list Alan field house is cracking me up she's probably not the answer Alan field house had a good year

1:15:47he he darin could end up being eat I mean it's so obvious he could very well could be like the the right answer at the end of the year we can only go out what we've seen you know we can't can't palm this I hope I hope like how he's the right answer can we at least talk about how darin matzubara is a real contender here yes first of all first of all he caught some he caught some strays some iron but this outside of that picture he puts that shit on every night every night he is dressing sharp and despite some tom full fullery earlier a legend darin yeah a legend totally alleged unsubstantiated darin is playing it's almost like he had a master plan that darin will be

1:16:54available and popping when we need him yeah and you have to think you have to think about this award you don't just say it and then answer think about the award sick rich hot badass we know he's rich we know he's rich and because we're gonna be on draft night and the reason why he's rich is there's a chance that he was really sick with the way that he gained this whole thing and was like we're not gonna play more than we need to but we're gonna turn it up the right time everyone's still gonna love this guy the draft stock is gonna go right back to where it belongs that by the time it rolls around he's gonna be the number one pick I'm gonna be the mastermind like the guy who's just in control of the situation and bending the world to his will that's kind of what this award's all about frankly yeah but melvin barks matz doesn't bark whoo that we've heard but we know of

1:17:58matz gave us goodman the first the first ever goodman impression was quoting him talking talking about matz you know what we need to make this come full circle is we need a matz uncle Anthony moment at the big 12 tournament we need a sick Aaron dunk and then matz losing his ship behind the KU bench so you and I both we're sitting separately at the BYU game we both saw the same thing it was like you and I looked up at the moon and I was like is Nick looking at that and you were that's what happened we said pictures each other at the same time when DP don't verse BYU we both had our eyes on one Darren matzubara he went nuts he went nuts he was so excited hey Siri how much does what's 10% of the number one draft picks rookie salary ain't no way he

1:19:05got Darren by taking 10% oh series actually my phone my subara likely took 3% it was a total discount it was a suckback loser discount but however the answers my answers melvin my answers melvin for what he embodied he can't use the right guy at the right time to come in and like add some juice back to this program not the best player he's not he's not your best player I I don't think he's your most important player but I would hate to see how this season went without him I gotta take one more year of bill melvin's next coach I thought you're gonna say if we get one more year of Darren we'll get one more year of bill or melvin we get one more year of bill no I don't think melvin's bills is something factor

1:20:10is again he's fine oh I disagree I think you're downplaying how much Bill likes Darren I don't think he's just like oh yeah he's nice he's he's gonna care about it the rest sure but he wants to win a championship if he's but Bill is a vibes guy Mike it all is a vibes guy he's a winning guy right the vibes vibes lead to winning and winning leads to vibes it's a circle that that's what a quarter in you go up and down around and round circular melvin imagine this year without them fucking nailing melvin counts on the portal portal all right I mean he's scared animal he's literally is scared animal the entire team are we all in agreement is this unanimous melvin council it's melvin I really thought you might go moths for a second I was like it's funny I was gonna get talked into it it's melvin

1:21:10and moths is like moths was a super late contender like they didn't even think he was gonna be nominated and then all of a sudden a week shallower they're like he might win this damn thing but I could if I could have seen his face when he opened the envelope you know I've been numb I thought they hated me are you no everyone had it wrong honey had it wrong I got ourselves for a wrongy ourselves included we were wrong um by the way melvin council the first ever two-time wrongy winner uh he deserves it and he couldn't he almost won three he was nominated like four times great if that if that's not if that doesn't speak to him being the sick rich shot badass mothore of the year I don't know what does um mike you had a you had a lentil achievement award do you want it to hand out melvin 64 percent moths in second 19 percent how old field house 15 Darren Peters and two

1:22:13that's how we had it that's how we had it sorry sorry to sorry to the light poles for not taking a wrongy at home we should have done a best we should have done a best impression I thought about that can we do it okay goodman how it's goodman Kelly Cindy Cindy and norm norm norm sure those are for the impressions we know you threw one it what was the other one it you've had one other haven't you well mike you did you did you did you debuted your odds tonight oh yeah Mike did his odds Swedish odds you did another one I am a Swedish blammer I knew that's what you know I knew that's what you're facing it off I got one I got one speed man uh tev you had another one this year me yeah Kelly Cindy goodman oh no okay all right oh phanta we did that phanta phanta phanta's got to be

1:23:22on there I didn't remember I think that was me my oh it was you melvin council that's it that's it that's it there it is it's a winner I know I know goodman would is gonna run away with this vote but I'm just saying I still think it's it's Kelly it's all just Kelly it's always gonna be Kelly she's the OG mama Kelly with a boy not even close yeah yeah yeah the OG mama love that oh man someone says kev has done moths that is not true an eighth of a second and we we cut that off that is not true don't don't do it and don't go looking for it either it will never no one no one could ever find it's it's it's gonna be an eighth of a second in a in a 90 minute podcast episode who knows which one it was we have to move on okay okay love time achievement award the first ever wrong

1:24:25use I I really feel that this encapsulates the season I've not planned this I've barely thought about it it was about a five second thought and then a text the lifetime achievement goes to the craziest we have all collectively ever sounded well explaining this Kansas season to a normie a normal person a casual sports fan because it's explaining to Darren Peterson thing week after week after week was almost I mean made it I felt delusional sounded delusional be like it is that guy playing nope not really but he's so good yeah it was annoying to have to explain to people who aren't KU fans I'd be like dude have you seen this guy we have he's the fucking sickest player you've ever seen he's gonna be number one they're comparing him to Kobe they're comparing him to Anthony Edwards he's awesome my life rules also he doesn't like to play

1:25:28and so I want to kill myself like that's basically what it was like trying to explain KU to non KU fans it was like to to explain like no actually we wouldn't hype this guy up but Bill Simmons is calling him Kobe but but I'm furious that he's not playing that's a good take that's a good that's a good lifetime achievement I will say the name of the award I don't know I didn't do it I mean that was like me writing a headline we how do how we're gonna fit all that on one trophy on one little plaque we're gonna have to so okay it is good though because I travel a lot for work and very casual people tell you say you're from Kansas are you KF? yeah I'm a KF and tell me about the Darren Peterson thing like that's the first thing anybody asks right and because it grew international headline right and so people started paying attention and you get you cross February and then all of a sudden people pay attention

1:26:30to college basketball normies casuals and I I bet it's been two dozen times someone has asked me oh you're a KF and tell me of what's going on with Darren Peterson what's your thought on Darren Peterson yeah you have to be like oh man it's the best right but it's also like the worst what's like you want to complain but then you're like oh I don't know if I really can or should and it's it's just socks uh total like it didn't make just made made me uh look like chase Beaufort after that game he got ejected from um looking all pissed off and pretty nutty right here uh and this is a good comment from let's go cards so 421 it's a good gauge on damaging your own relationship marriage also mr. scoops is never really out of take on a can't display or before and I have talked to a lot of people with very similar stories and the significant others

1:27:37not a fan of Darren Peterson this is J. Hawk talk same the wives the approval rating amongst the wives on Darren Peterson is much lower than the husbands correct oh it's just sad to hear I've never heard anything like it's all of it's unanimous because we've just been ranting every night about like it's a crazy thing I've ever seen here's amazing then he didn't fly and here's yeah thing it's like they like they like they can have an opinion on on him and be like I just think he just if he's not going to be with the team then he just needs to like stop playing he just needs to like quit then and it's just like you know what I can say that you cannot say that about it actually all right one key yeah why don't we just sleep in separate beds tonight okay then you realize you've gone too far dude it's so true it's so true because I would I would flip flop back and forth on how I felt about Darren but the second they would be like they should just I think my wife was done with him in December oh yeah just get rid of him I defend him to

1:28:41everybody like to your point you kind of hate what's going on but then you turn into like full defense mode of him yeah yeah yeah you don't understand the pressure he's been under since he was like nine years old okay so this guy seems like a loser whoa whoa he's like your friend it's like you can make funny your friend but other people can't make funny your friend and it's not cool fuck you Steven hey yeah yeah we always maintain though I just want to say for the record we always maintain if we wanted this guy on this team we knew they needed him I don't think we have the stance of like we're done with him one thousand percent this podcast has been pro DP all season it's right flustered ants can be frustrated but we still wanted the dude on the team to play as did the players and we've all seen what we've seen in glimpses it's like we are the people that saw aliens okay and we're trying to convince everyone else that exists and it's awesome these

1:29:42aliens are sick speaking of aliens as the only resident of planet store once said and he might have been talking about our podcast talking about Darren Peterson that's love that's love oh that was a one quarter of the year from last season that I think he won quarter of the year in elevation he wants to or press conference of the year at all miss this year when he said that there's nothing you can do about about effort Chris bear I got something we could play we could play different players you know that the glimpses with Darren though I will say we saw one on Saturday we didn't really talk about the game on Saturday Darren was in a shooting slump we were like oh so he's healthy but now he's not that good anymore that's kind of annoying and then he came out against the team that wasn't trying at all granted that matters a little bit

1:30:43I guess but I think Darren reached the point where he's like I can't shoot myself out of this so I'm just gonna go do all the other stuff that I'm better than everyone else at any did that and he looked unbelievable and that's all it takes for you whether it's delusional or not like all they need to do is convince themselves they got it back and I think he did that on Saturday so I'm fully expecting sicko mode Darren Peterson to return starting on Thursday I believe the players that expressed that Darren should help move the ball a more after the Arizona State game okay actually hate that actually hate that it's on there and I hear that I'm like why don't any of you guys hey flurry try making a fucking layup hey hey brison try finishing through contact I get it they need everybody but I don't really love the idea of them letting Darren know he's not he's shooting too much

1:31:44I think we just you said yeah I'll move the ball I'll move the ball I'll move the ball in my hands closer to the cup and I'll hit a floater every single time I fucking want to we gotta be a team does that what you meant I'm in complete control it's so true though like we said it earlier this year Darren has the greenest light of any bill self-player ever nobody he's ever what it was before I think it was before a real game was played we said that yeah maybe it was after Louisville we're like no yeah well Louisville Louisville was a the experience well I guess to be fair he still led the team in field goal attempts yeah he's still shot the ball 15 times it was just like yeah move ball he had four six four six was moving one of his best assist number games of the season

1:32:51I love it we need hockey assists you that'd be better I did like that it'd be better you get a hockey assist to yourself I'm gonna pass it to you now pass it right back so I can shoot it with is that what a hockey assist is could be yeah it's an assist to the assist right you just say we need more hockey assists without knowing what hockey assists no no I meant to keep track of them because I bet his hockey assists were uh noticely on the uptick first case state and everyone knows if you show up well against Kansas State on your own home court things are trimming up for your team okay hey men couldn't say better myself um subscribe right in review subscribe right in review we good subscribe right in review wherever you get your podcasts make sure you watch on YouTube because every time you do we get a dollar for my Vernon Kevin Meckley Kevin T-Han I'm Nick Schwert we'll be back again at some point this week before the NCAA

1:33:53tournament we'll see how these games go in Kansas City KU Texas Tech on 830 on Thursday this is going to be wrong