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Are We Great Yet?

I've Had It·Mar 5, 2026·1:05:56

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Ready, one, two, three Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, Black Patriots, Brown Patriots, and all of the triple Trumpers and anybody on the planet that actually still supports Trump can do what?

Welcome to America's top DEI podcast, trying to change the minds of voters one episode at a time. Pam sort of you had it with.

Okay, what I've had it with are people that trap you with the text and then immediately call you so they know you have your phone in your hand.

So if you ignore it, you're just like the biggest dick on the planet. It's like the minute the bubbles start then they call you or the minute it gets delivered they call you and I just I don't I'm sure it's my codependency but I'm just like I can't ignore it at this point because they know I have my phone in my hand and I'm typing to them.

Hey, yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I think I both hate this and do this.

I think this is one of those where I've had it with it, but I also participate in the grievance because sometimes I have to tell somebody something and you know it's hard to get tone in text.

Like someone said, I'm writing out a text and that is I'm like using four exclamation points and then I'm like backtrack, backtrack, backtrack.

Am I really that enthusiastic about this?

And then I just put the period and then I'm like, does that make me sound like a cunt?

You know, is it one exclamation point? So sometimes if I text somebody something and then they respond, I'm like, I have to tell them in person.

I want the voice to voice contact, but I too have been in this trap where somebody is texted me and I just want to respond really quick to clear out my text, you know, text that need to be returned.

And then I get zapped with the call and depending on how much I like the person will I answer.

If it's a person I absolutely 100% don't want to talk to have no problem saying, so sorry, can't chat right now can only text.

I would say that's I haven't thought of that, but I will say this about you because I thought about that you and I kind of do that sometimes.

But here's the difference. You can call and say.

Hey, do you know where the red lipstick is? Yes, done it. Okay, bye, like it's not prolonged.

The problem with these people is there's a pro longers. They want to talk about superfluous shit.

If it was just a question in and out, let's do this. I don't care, but it's never the people that are efficient.

It's always the people that just prolong everything.

Have you ever found yourself like, I'll be getting a lot of text like a Sunday and I'm like, I'm going to pretend like I'm not using my phone today.

And so I'm like, not responding to the text thinking I'll respond to him like much later in the evenings.

I don't want to get involved in a belabored texting and it's stupid shit.

Somebody sending me something and then the conversation goes on and I don't really enjoy text conversations at all.

I don't get any joy out of belabored text conversations.

So I'm ignoring like five text messages, right?

So then I get over to Instagram and it's like, here's a video of Rafa Nadal winning the 2022 Roland Garros.

And I'm like, double tap.

Here's punch the monkey fighting back and I'm like, double tap.

And it's like, and here's the resistance and somebody making fun of Trump.

And I'm like, double tap and they've all been posted within an hour.

And then I'm like, oh shit.

Everybody knows that I'm not returning the text that I'm over liking shit on Instagram.

And I'm so busted. And that's the thing about the smartphone.

Anonymity and avoidance is damn near impossible.

That I agree.

I don't do that because I, when I'm doing all that tap, like I sometimes I can't,

I just have to hit the heart like the double tap still escapes me.

But yes, I do that while I'm trying to ignore people.

So here's what I hate.

And this happens to me all the time with my assessment.

I will send a text.

It will be ignored.

But then there will be a text stream with one of my children and it's rapid response.

So I know I'm being ignored.

What are you texting your assessment about like, okay, this is what I paid for tuition or whatever.

Like the reimbursement.

We're just talking about old times and love.

But you know, you know that he like that particular person enjoys more than anything,

having some drama where there is no drama.

Yes.

So he's dying for you to say, why didn't you text me back?

He's dying.

I know.

I just, what's back in the day I would have.

But now I'm just like, no, no, no, no, you're right.

It's just, it's trying to lure me in.

So that's a little bit of growth.

Yeah.

Little.

Yeah, I think, I think that the final coup to grow in the growth would be to have your children text

and say, you own mom.

Excellent.

Hey, by the way, mom said a complete lack out of all communication.

Like a total block.

Yes.

If anybody deserves a total block from you, it's that MFR.

No, no question about it.

But I think it would be a show up at my door.

Oh, God.

Can you imagine anything worse than that?

I really can't.

We're in the middle of a Trump presidency.

Listener, that's how bad that situation is.

It's, it's so undesirable.

It's the torture.

God, that's, it's something.

All right.

Welcome.

Oh, no, I need to tell you what I've had to say.

All right.

I've had it with my husband misgendering my French bulldogs.

So for years, he misgendered my cat, Kitsky, the late Kitsky.

She died as everybody knows.

After a long, lifelong battle with asthma and diabetes.

And she lived to 18.

So Kitsky was a girl, Josh, for the entirety of her life,

referred to Kitsky as he, him, pronouns.

And so my husband and I just went on vacation together

and we took our dogs because our children are in college.

And I just, honestly, dogs are fantastic to travel with.

And he kept calling Chacha, who is female, him and he.

He and pronouns.

And I'm just like, she's five.

We've had her four, five years.

She is a girl.

Like, you need to use the correct pronouns with our dogs.

And the same thing with Debbie.

He'll be like, she needs to take her medicine.

I'm like, we've had him for 10 years in the misgendering.

And it's like this, I don't, I don't understand what it's about.

I don't know why you would want to misgender a dog or a cat.

It's just so bizarre to me.

But he does it all the time.

And I can tell that it, you know, I can tell that the dogs don't like it.

They're very offended.

When I can tell, Tilly, I kept calling her him or he.

And my daughter came on, I mean, she was on me every second

about the misgendering.

And I've gotten really, I mean, I don't do it anymore.

I'm like, how are my boys and my girl?

But if I said, premiere boys, no, you're not misgendering her.

And I was like, okay, okay.

So I was going to say with Josh, it was a new thing.

That the evidence suggests this goes on a long time.

There's really just no excuse for it at this point.

What's your excuse for misgendering?

Because I had two boys, so like the first month that I had Tilly,

I kept referring to her like, as hit, like I need to take him outside.

And it was like, you know, just in the very beginning.

I'm saying it.

Yeah, I don't know what, I don't know what Josh's deal is.

Other than we did make it to Mexico on this trip.

And, you know, he has just such prolonged type of country.

Yeah, we didn't have any ear issues.

Headaches seem to have subsided.

He did get some rogue blood test recently.

And there was some marker in the number of something.

Okay, like this seems a little a little low.

So of course, he's on chat GPT, which by the way, listen or Josh and I both

canceled our chat GPT.

And I filled out the survey as to why I canceled it.

And I put Sam Altman is a fascist collaborator because there was an other.

Good for you.

I'm Altman is a fascist collaborator.

And I joined inthropic who's fighting with the Department of Defense.

And I'm now a clawed user.

But this is before we fired chat GPT and listen or everybody should boycott chat GPT

because Sam Altman is a pussy and a fascist collaborator.

But anyway, so it's some it's something about kidneys or something.

And he brought it up once.

And I kind of just side item.

And we went through eight days in Mexico without any.

I put conjugal but something terrible happened.

So you know, Josh has been working out like crazy.

Like he works out all the time, lift lifts, weights, all the time, drinks,

creotene, protein powders, all that shit, right?

And he looks really good.

I mean, he's just turned 57.

He looks the best he's looked, I mean, looks fantastic.

So we're clean, living the whole nine.

So we're walking down the beach one day and this couple,

gentleman with a younger weekend

twist. It looked like on his arm. And

he kind of says to Josh and this guy

had on like a swim top cover up. So

that's not super proud of his like a

rash guard. He wasn't super proud of

his upper body, I would say. I could

because she was in like a skimpy little

bikini. And he walks by Josh and he

goes, I think maybe he ought to work

out more, bro. Because Josh, you

will. So it was a compliment, right?

Did he take it there immediately? He

took it that way. I can immediately

picked up what they put down. Okay. And

since that incident, I've had to

relive that story five times with

five different people. And he

starts it off by saying, why don't

you ask Jennifer what the guy said to

me on the beach?

It's like it's like passing the

narcissism. Like he wants to be a

narcissism, but he wants to be a

narcissist, but he wants to pass it to

me for me to bring him. So I've had it

with that. I've had it with the

mischindering. We are doing better on

the hypocontry of front. So that's

growth. I'm really happy about that.

And I just wish that nobody would give

Josh a compliment anymore. And it's

not that I'm a mean person, which

people can make an argument for that. It's

that I have to live with after math

with that compliment. Right. He

doesn't just say, oh my gosh, thank

you so much. That's so nice. And

that's it. That's it. It's over.

That compliment lives on. I mean,

just two days ago, he brought it up. He

was in New York visiting me and he

brought it up to a girl at the

gym. My name is Jennifer. Tell me

tell you what the guy said to me on

the beach. And I was just like,

why don't you shut the fuck up?

How about that? How about we how about

we shut the fuck up? It was two

weeks ago. Let's move on from it.

Here's the deal. The minute you said

the guy said that, I knew exactly

what you're thinking because it's

true. Like it really is true.

Reliving it, bringing it up. That's

kind of funny that he's now he's

brought you in to be part of the

narcissist instead of just saying,

oh, yeah, this guy said I looked

great and super built. Now you're a

part of it. That's an interesting

twist. It's just a torture me.

I mean, it's just, I mean, the

because then he dies laugh because

he knows he's doing it to be

provocative of a reaction for me that

is just like, shut the fuck up and

then he's dying laughing. All right,

welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer.

I'm Angie. Kylie, how's it going?

It's going good. Okay, before we move

forward, I would like to mention

listener, Kylie today has on a

fleece jacket with it looks like a

little

doily lace style tram. Very cute.

Super cute. Very lesbian chic.

The last two to three times we were

on this stream three times.

We Kylie looks like a million

backs. She's in this like

silk chiffon blouse with this tie on

and each time we run out of time and

we're unable to film, I've had it.

And she looks like a million backs, right?

So then the next day she like puts on

the same outfit because she wants all

the gaitries, the less triads, the

black triads, the blunter, brown triads,

the patriots, even fucking maggots.

She wants everyone to see how

spectacularly

country her outfit is.

And each time we're unable to film

the episode due to time restraints,

scheduling restrictions, etc.

And so have you given up on the outfit?

Yes, yeah. I refuse to put it on today,

but only because I was worried it would

mean something would go wrong.

Like every time I put that shirt on,

the third time was pretty humiliating.

I was putting it on, I just was like,

the episode's not going to happen.

And I'm going to look like a loser sitting

in my outfit for the third time.

And so I was like, I'm not fucking

putting it on today.

And look, we're filming.

But it really is.

It's so good.

And it will make it easier.

It's right out that you look great in it.

You look really fucking great.

You would, you would break the,

uh,

Lezzernet.

The Lezzernet.

Well, I really would have.

I really would have.

It breaks the Lezzernet.

I mean, it would be like,

I think it could be a really good

positive thing for Lesbian's that outfit.

And it on the worldwide web.

Well, the third time I had it on,

I don't know about you, but when I repeat an outfit,

I like it a little bit less each time.

Totally.

First time I felt just the hottest of ever looked,

Seth even threw me a compliment.

Second time I was like, okay,

we're going to get this in there.

Third time I sat there and I was just like,

this is fucking lovely.

I hate it.

Yeah.

I really hate that about me too.

I have that same affliction.

And it's so stupid.

Like if I wear something,

then I'm like, well, I've already worn it before.

And that's just so shallow and pretentious.

And I just have to,

I came to terms with the fact like 20 years ago.

Just like you're just shallow and pretentious,

Jennifer, you just are both of those things.

Like you just need to accept it.

Like you are shallow,

you're pretentious,

you are fall prey to the worst pitfalls of capitalism.

And I've been to a lot of therapy

and on a lot of various different issues.

That's just not something I've been able

to really fully rectify.

Yet is the shallow, pretentious nature in my character.

I really haven't.

I've tried.

I really like things I do.

Like I like clothes.

I like, I really like those things.

And I wish I could be one of these people.

It's like it doesn't matter what I wear.

Pumps used to be like that for years.

She'd be like, I don't care what I wear.

She never cared.

She'd show up in a robe in public.

A robe in slippers never gave a fuck.

And I was just like, I just like clothes.

I just love fashion.

I love it.

I love all different facets of fashion.

Yeah.

One of my things is when you were saying that like,

I don't remember what I wear.

I'm afraid.

I'm on the opposite spectrum.

I feel like I wear the same thing over and over and over again

because I just don't remember.

So just call me out on that if you notice it

because I kind of started to think

I wear the same thing over and over.

I've started to wear the same thing over and over.

I've started to because I moved to New York

and I didn't move all my clothes.

And so I've been trying to embrace the like this.

I probably weren't 10 times.

And I'm just like embracing it.

Like I'm going to wear the sweater

a bunch this season.

And that's just the end of it.

But I do feel better.

And I do feel like a better person

when I wear something new each day.

And that's a fucking terrible admission to make.

It's really terrible.

But I'm just going to own it.

Like I'm 51 years old,

trying to do what I can do.

But if every day I put on a brand new outfit,

I'd be fucking invincible.

I just, I don't know what I could tackle.

I really don't.

Like if I could have somebody kind of like,

here's a new outfit of the day.

And then come and take it after that.

I'd be like, good riddance.

See you later.

And that's just a horrible shout.

I mean, I'm telling you, I'm really shallow and pretentious.

I really am.

It's a horrible character defect.

Horrible.

Jen, you fixed so much.

I just think like, let's let you have this one.

Yeah, I just, I think of all the character defects.

I'd rather have that than a lot of the ones I have.

I mean,

oh, I have a lot of others too.

This is just one that's been consistent my whole life.

There's this, that movie,

we watch it every Christmas.

I think it's called The Family Man

and it has

Nicholas Cage and Taelioni.

And so it's kind of like a Charles Dickens thing

where he goes and he gets a glimpse of what his life would be like

if he wasn't this rich hedge fund prick blah, blah.

And so he goes to the mall and he tries on like a Zenia suit.

And he puts it on and he goes,

it's amazing how much better of a person I feel like I am wearing this suit.

It's just like horrible.

And I completely related to his character.

Like I totally get that.

Like I feel like a better person and a great fucking outfit.

I feel better.

No, I don't need to.

I just feel terrible.

It's just so fucking awful, but I totally have it.

I would argue that I, I'm a better employee.

Like I work harder.

My brain is sharper.

I feel smarter.

I feel better.

Yeah.

That's true.

I understand.

I totally get it.

Okay.

In lieu of a review, I have an email

that a distraught listener has sent us.

They have a grievance.

And it says, dear Jennifer and pumps,

a month ago, all my office colleagues had to do a color personality test

and then discuss why we are the way we are.

No surprise to me.

I'm a thinker and not a cheerleader.

Last week, we all had to do a team building activity

where we took a personality test

and guess where I ended up?

Same result.

Today, I just got an email invite

to another team building event that is an escape room.

Not two weeks ago, I said to my co-workers

that I'd rather shoot myself in the head than do an escape room.

I'm 65.

I'm looking to retire in a couple of years.

In the 43 years that I've been a working professional,

I've done every color test, personality test,

ropes course, ice breaker, team building,

morale building, how to manage a team,

two truths in a lie, pop luck, lunch and learn,

trust exercise.

Not to mention office door decorating contests,

pumpkin carvings, chili cook-offs, and birthday parties.

Can I just work?

I don't have enough time left in my career

to learn anything new.

I don't care about other people's personality color

because clearly they don't care about mine.

Please, I've had it.

That's a nightmare.

I have so many questions about that.

That is just such a nightmare.

You hear these stories about all these just exhausting

team building bullshit things.

And then what your color is,

and it's just like, go to work, do your jobs.

Sometimes you like people at work.

Sometimes you don't like people at work.

You know who the superficial people at work are.

You know who the real ones are.

And you just navigate through it.

And that's just is what it is.

There's no need to have all of these circle jerks.

It's just such a miserable experience.

And I would say in a work environment,

I'm far more a thinker than I am a cheerleader.

Far more.

Like I'm always more thinking than I am cheerleading

because I find a lot of cheerleading so superficial.

I find it just like this fainte bullshit support

instead of especially in a work environment.

Everything just needs to be business.

You just have to cut through

all of the superficiality of feelings

and get to what are we doing here?

What are our objectives?

Let's get them done and then go live our real lives

outside from this job.

That's what my whole question is.

Like why would they want to spend all this time

on that kind of shit?

Because it seems like a thinker would just be exactly

what you wanted.

We're not fucking around.

We're going to do our job.

We're going to leave all these activities.

I think it's like makes it harder to work.

I just don't understand why anybody would do this.

Well, I think in her and the emailers

for me, she has no choice.

No, I know.

But I'll require.

I'm an employer.

Why would you want all this?

Because you get these focus groups that come in

and do all this bullshit stuff.

And I think this comes from

I'm telling you, this all starts with gender reveal parties.

Whenever they started the gender reveal parties

and we started celebrating

humans and you to row,

then we started inventing a lot more activities to do.

We started inventing kindergarten graduation,

preschool graduation,

lower school graduation.

I mean, like all of this shit

to where it just it builds and builds and builds

to where the whole life is just a superficial house of cards.

And then you're doing trust falls and color stuff at work.

Nothing means it means nothing.

If her color would get been a completely different color,

she still has the same fucking job

with the same set of employees.

All of this has to do with over-celebrating,

overthinking, over-analyzing, not being efficient.

This is an inefficient society.

Yeah, I agree.

Okay, and I've got a new story for you.

Jen, you just came back from Mexico.

You were talking about your dogs.

There's a lot of new paperwork you have to have.

And so there's this story going viral of this woman

that went to an airport with her dog

and then I'll let the video play to explain it.

We're back with a dog left alone

at the airport in Las Vegas.

Video shows the woman leaving the golden-doodle-mini-poodle

at a jet-blue ticket counter earlier this month.

Authorities say she didn't have the right documents to travel with it

as a service dog.

She is now facing animal abandonment

among other charges.

The dog, now known as JetBlue,

is at a rescue facility awaiting adoption.

And I have a good news update

before you respond.

The dog was adopted by the officer that rescued him.

So I saw this online and I just can't imagine

that you would leave your dog at the airport.

And I watched the video multiple times

and the woman has a Stanley-esque

style cup in her hands at the ticket counter.

And I think that if you go back to our first episodes

and look at the case that we're making for

what is a precursor to fuckery?

What is a precursor to making horrible life choices?

What is a slippery slope to MAGA?

What is a slippery slope to being a dog abuser?

You can go back to doing trust falls at the office.

You can go back to the inception of this podcast.

And it is gender reveal parties,

Stanley Cubs.

And there's this through line to all of these things

that I oppose fundamentally.

And so I just felt so bad for JetBlue

and I'm so glad that JetBlue.

Number one, I'm glad that JetBlue was left.

Because, yeah, JetBlue needed a new owner.

But I just think about how her feelings

must have been hurt at the airport.

And I'm so glad that that officer found her and adopted her.

And I saw a picture of the officer with his family

and he has like kids and doodles

or like so family oriented.

But if you look at that video,

she clearly has a thermos Stanley cup style.

Beverage in her hands.

I just, I just eagle.

I hawk that out.

Do you see it Kylie?

Oh, yeah, it's orange, right?

Yeah, it's got a big, yep.

First thing I noticed right out of the gates,

I knew that, I mean, right when I saw it,

it's like she got a cup in her hand at the airport.

Not supposed to have cups at the airport.

And if you're traveling with your cup

and your partner water up in the trash can,

then you're filling up your cup on the planches too much.

Stop with the performative hydration.

I knew that dog was fucked.

The moment I saw that cup and a dog on a leash,

I fucking knew it.

I knew it.

Also, if I'm on an in an airport

and something's wrong and my dog can't come with me,

I don't, I can't go on the trip.

That's it.

I should think about this.

She took her cup and left her dog.

She took the cup and left the dogs

and everybody thinks I'm a raving lunatic

calling out the Stanley cupbers

and the performative hydrators.

But think about that.

She had a choice.

Leave the cup.

Leave the dog.

She left the dog.

She took the cup.

I bet you, you went,

I bet you that bitch is still dehydrated.

You know who I think also probably started out with a cup?

Kristina, I bet it's just going to say that.

Yeah, look where that ended up.

Look, that dog got off easy jet blue.

Yeah, you're right.

No question.

There's no question.

Oh my god.

So I read this story.

We need to dive into this for iHip News.

That okay, you know there was the story

about Kristinaum

and the jet.

And the blanket left on the jet.

Yes.

Well, some loose lips, sink ships are leaking a story

that something far more embarrassing

was left on the plane

than the blanket.

And so I'm thinking since she,

Kristinaum, the Department of Homeland Security Cosplayer,

she's screwing Corey Lewandowski,

even though they're both married and bible thumpers

and all this shit, right?

I bet it's a bit.

I bet it's a bag full of sex toys or something.

That's what I thought.

When you said that, I was like,

butt plugs, butt balls,

dildos, yeah, all of it.

Mm-hmm.

You know what I bet she,

I mean, this is pretty graphic,

but I'm just going to go and say it

because fuck it.

We're in Trump's second term.

I bet she pegs Corey.

One, you think she's the pegger?

Yeah, yeah.

I bet that's her.

I bet she shot a dog,

so I bet then when it gets to

I'm a big,

key woman, all that.

Yeah.

I totally think so.

She's a pegger.

Yeah, she's a pegger for sure.

But you know, here's the thing.

There's a new book coming out

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I've had it podcast team,

I'm going to read it.

I am all-

Who's writing the book?

Fucking in.

Some, it's like a journalist

that's been following their affair

and their interaction.

Get them on the pod.

Okay.

Read it.

I mean, I think that when it's releasing,

they just did an excerpt of it.

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it's time for a guest.

I'm going to say hello to him

and then Pumps is going to engage

in one of her hard-hitting interviews

and I'll dismiss myself

but I want to make sure I say hello to him.

You've seen his videos all over TikTok

and Instagram amassing billions of views

and building one of the most engaged

audiences in country music

with 3.6 million TikTok followers

and 1.3 million on Instagram,

which is more than us,

which really pisses me off

because we're old and competitive.

Brian has captured the attention of major media

from Rolling Stone to Don Lemon

to none other than I've had it

and we would like to welcome Brian Andrews

to I've had it.

Brian, how are you?

Good. How are you guys?

Good. I'm so excited to be here.

We're so happy to have you.

So excited to have you.

You know, you're really kicking ass

on social media.

Yeah, trying, trying.

Let me ask you that.

So you're a country singer.

Yeah.

There was a country song that they

they sang at the other,

the Maga Super Bowl.

Yeah.

That it was like, I got it.

Kiss my face, yeah.

Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

I've had it with that fucking bullshit, too.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's like, I want to mount my yard.

Yeah.

Drink my beer.

Yeah, the whole premise of the song

really is not like that crazy.

It's basically just saying, you know,

I want to be left alone.

But my problem with that is like,

you know, you don't get to

say, I just want to be left alone

and wipe my hands clean when you see

all this shit is going to shit.

Finally, you know, I mean, like if

you know, the premise of

I just want to be left alone

is what everybody wants.

But you don't get to say,

I just want to be left alone

when you see and support the people

who are now

intruding on other people's lives.

So when you see them not being left alone,

you ought to be able to stand up and say,

Hey, that's bullshit.

Well, and I would argue before I kick

this interview to Pumpspring,

because I've got a bounce.

But they say they want to be left alone.

But they want to jump all up in

trans people's live, gay people's lives,

queer people's live,

drag queens people's lives.

What books people can check out from the library.

So they actually don't want to be left alone.

They just want to be all up in other people's shit.

And that's what pisses me off about the hypocrisy

of that type of white person.

Yeah, exactly. It's the, you know,

like I said, you don't get to just wipe

your hands clean and be like, oh,

shit, they're really messing with other

marginalized communities and everything.

I didn't really want that.

But this looks a lot worse than I thought it would.

So I'm just going to pretend like I didn't have

nothing to fucking do with it and stay

over here in my lane.

And that's bullshit.

You don't get to do that when you ask for this.

Right.

Pods.

We're

okay, Brian, you and I,

I feel like we're separated at birth.

Our backstory is so similar

in our journeys growing up.

So yeah.

And I'm in Oklahoma.

You were raised in Missouri.

Both my folks are from real small towns.

And my grandpa and my mom's side

worked for General Motors for 30 years.

So he was a union Democrat.

And my dad grew up in a household

where they were farmers and working stuff.

And a lot of farmers back in the day

were always Democrats because they,

you know, Democrats helped out the farm.

So they, I come from Democratic family.

But I just grew up in the town

where pretty much nobody is a Democrat.

You know what I mean?

Especially in the last 16 years,

I mean, it's like,

I know, I know people that agree with me

on a lot of things and like pretty much everything really.

And when if you were to ask them point blank,

like, hey, was you can consider yourself a liberal

or a Democrat?

They'd say, oh, no, I'm an independent.

Even though everything they stand for

and like their values align with being on the left,

they will still say I'm an independent

because they just do not want to be associated.

It's so taboo to be associated with being a liberal

or a leftist or a Democrat in a small town

that, you know, they just won't say I'm a Democrat.

Well, people I feel like on the coast don't understand

how much religion is tied at with being a Republican

in a place like Oklahoma or Missouri,

like Bible Belt area, it would be like a sin

almost to be Democrat.

I mean, I was raised super conservative,

super Republican, super, super churchy.

And what I have found out is all the teachings

that I was taught about Jesus and how he handled people

and how he accepted people and did for everyone.

What I grew up with was that was the message

but we do the opposite.

And we're able to sit and judge other people

and the dissonance that I had.

And I think it's so important to have

a mega-coded person like you, like I'm mega-coded.

It's, you know, a person like you that comes in

and talks about that so openly and with such conviction.

So I've seen several interviews with you

and I was just blown away.

So if you kind of address that for me.

Yeah, I think, I mean, you, like even in a small town now,

you've run across people, especially in my hometown.

I'm sure that if you ask them like, you know,

why do you vote Republican?

You know, one of their deep-rooted issues is like,

I vote Republican because I'm supposed to because I'm a Christian.

Right. So like Christianity is very closely correlated

with the conservative party, which for me is weird

because it seems like the further it's true for both ways.

The further I get into my faith, the further left I get

and the further I get into like my values,

the more religious I get, right?

So I mean, because I think to me,

Christ was a brown skin socialist who loved immigrants

and, you know, was feeding the poor, healing the sick.

You know, I mean, like the whole premise of Jesus

was that like everybody's supposed to be taken care of, right?

But you see in the Republican party specifically,

I think in the United States is that like,

it's very individualistic.

So in their mind, it's like, well, why should I have to pay more in taxes

if, you know, somebody else that's lazy and doesn't want to get a job

just needs health insurance or, you know, snap benefits

or whatever, why should I have to pay for that out of my check

when I get up and go to work for 60 hours a week?

And on the paper, that seems like logical, but it's not.

I mean, like these people are willingly paying more for

privatized health care and private health insurance

and things like that so that people can't get access, right?

To health care. So that's what I'm saying.

Like they're willing to pay more out of pocket.

So only they can have health insurance.

When if they just wouldn't pay for, if we just had a program

like Single Payment Health Care,

they would end up paying less for insurance or in taxes

for insurance, you know, like for health care

and everybody else would be able to have access to health care too.

So the mindset is really backwards to me because it's like,

I just don't understand how you're willing to actually

pay more so people will be able to die

versus paying left or less and have the same access

to all the health care you need.

And people will still be able to go to the emergency room

and not have to fall for bankruptcy.

You know, here's the thing, the person that you describe,

like, lazy, why should I have to pay for it?

That was how I grew up, but in a very, very religious household.

And that screws with your mind, all the mixed messages.

Okay, I have to ask you.

I forgot because Jennifer always does it.

Brian Andrews, phenom, what have you had it?

I have had it.

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I can't remember.

I've got them here.

Yeah, let me.

Christians and country music.

Yeah, that's that's a big thing for me

because like, I feel like I'm, you know, I'm a Christian myself

and I feel like as a Christian, it's my responsibility

to call things out when I see them, you know?

So like, especially in country music,

it's like this so close correlation

and you see it all the time, like a vote against Donald Trump

as a vote against God.

And shit like that to me is just, it's blasphemous.

Right?

I mean, like you're, you're not, first of all,

like the conservative party is ultra good at being like,

oh, a vote against, or a vote against Donald Trump

as a vote against God.

And then they'll come out and say,

well, Jesus doesn't have a political party.

Right.

And it's like, yeah, but you just used him as a weapon

to prop your political party up.

So like, when I feel that's what people come at me all the time,

they're like, oh, well, you're using Jesus for your side too.

And I'm like, no, dude, I'm just using Jesus as a defense

because you used him as a weapon first.

So I'm just using him as a way to say, hey,

if you're going to use Jesus as a weapon,

Jesus wouldn't do this.

You know what I'm saying?

So I mean, for me, like that's where,

especially like in country music, it's ultra conservative

and ultra like the, not just the audience,

but even some people in the industry

and everything are very, very religious.

And that's okay.

I don't have a problem with people being Christian.

And I have a problem with people like using Christianity

to shield them from accountability

or to bury their head in the sand

when it comes to like what's happening in the world

and things like that.

I think that's the big thing right there.

Like you see, not just in country music,

but everywhere, like in the Pam Bondi,

or the congressional hearing she just did, right?

Jared Masco has asked her, you know, like,

you know, what are you doing with the Epstein files

and all this stuff?

But then he goes on to the tangent

or he goes on to describe like the Trump Bible

and holds up the Trump Bible and it gets laughed

and stuff like that.

And so what she does is she doesn't,

all while we're in a big cross-rounder next,

she says, well, I'm not even going to dignify that

with a response because you just made from the Bible.

And so in that moment,

that's why people don't like Christians, right?

That's why they have a bad view of Christians

because she used her Christianity right there

as a shield to hide herself from accountability.

No, I completely agree.

And I also, like for me,

having grown up that way,

lived that way as an adult for a long time.

I was able to take the entitlement of

I'm special, I'm judgmental,

wrapped in being white,

wrapped in being upper middle class

and say, well, that doesn't apply to me.

I don't have to think about those things.

I can, I get to bury my head in the sand.

Yes.

I get to claim no responsibility

because I have a personal relationship.

It's kind of like Christian narcissism.

Yeah.

And so do you see that a lot

because I was that person, Brian?

Yes.

Yeah, it's, I absolutely see it all the time.

And like that's the, that's the thing.

Like a lot of people,

even if they're just like voting for Donald Trump

or like,

propping up some of the ideologies

or policy or whatever like that,

but they don't really,

they don't really like support that guy

or they're not really that in tune with politics

or anything like that

or they don't pay attention to politics that much.

They'll, they'll literally say that.

You know, like,

well, all I know is Jesus is the way, right?

And I have a problem with that

because it's like,

like,

yet, okay,

you can say Jesus is the way all you want

but Jesus calls you

to be interactive with the world around you, right?

You know, so like he calls you to

like call other people out

when they're using certain things

to be weapons against people.

You're in act bad policy

or you know, like to feed the poor

and heal the sick and things like that.

So Jesus literally doesn't want you

to bury your head in the sand and say,

oh, well, he's the way.

You know, and I know so many people that are like,

well,

if people would just accept Christ

into their heart, this world would be so much better off.

And I'm like,

if everybody buried their head in the sand

the way that you do,

this, it would be a lot more of a shit store

because they'd be able to do what,

that's the problem we're in now

is that people don't care about politics enough

that they're able to just

enact whatever policy they want

and people are not paying attention, right?

So like marginalized communities are being hurt first

and then eventually it comes for everybody

and it's too late to speak out

because there's no one left to tell.

Okay, so I have to ask you.

Okay, here's your Brian Andrews.

Your Terry, your country music singer.

Your views, a lot different

than what the stereotype is

for country music.

You come out and say,

this is how I feel.

You write songs about it.

You had to be scared

that you were putting your career at risk.

My guess.

Yeah, yeah, I definitely was.

I mean, especially being,

like when I, I mean, even now,

but especially when I first started talking about it,

you know, three months before, months ago,

like I had never really talked about politics before.

I mean, I had touched on it really,

but nothing crazy.

And so when I, when I really started diving deep into it,

I was very, I guess just,

I knew it was a risk, right?

So I knew that, like,

but I also knew that I felt this way.

And, you know, like I didn't want to alienate anybody

that I already had in my audience,

but at the same time, like,

who am I going to alienate?

People that already don't listen to my music.

You know what I mean?

I was a small enough artist that it was like,

I can, I can pave the road

that I'm building right now.

And so for me, I think it was a little bit easier

than maybe, you know, like some of the bigger artists

if they feel this way and stuff like that,

because they really have built these giant fan bases

and everything and they actually will be alienating people.

But I knew that if I felt this way,

I wasn't alone, right?

From a small town and things like that.

And, you know, you see the blue dots in red states

and stuff like that everywhere.

And, you know, even in my small town,

there's a lot more Democrats than you think there are.

So, you know, I mean, it was weird,

but at first, but as soon as I got into it,

I was like, you know what?

Fuck it.

I don't care no more.

Because I mean, I can't,

it was too late for me to start speaking up anyways.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

So, like, I can't, you know,

if I would have cared or if I had to spoke up,

like, I do now, before the election,

maybe we'd have had a different result.

And so, like, that's a guilt that I've been here,

you know what I mean?

And I'm not going to make that fucking same mistake twice

in a lifetime.

Well, so what's interesting to me is quite the contrary.

You have blown up.

Like every corner of the internet is your face with your views.

So, when you, I'm sure you have trolls and haters.

Of course you do.

Yeah.

But how, when you found out that then now,

you have, I think your song went like number one

on every platform.

It was an icon historical prize by the reaction.

Yeah, I was, I mean, it was a,

it's a pleasant surprise, right?

And that was like the first time I'd ever made billboards.

So, I mean, it was, it was pretty insane.

But I mean, with every, that was a very weird moment

because I had an experience like, like,

masculine, like, cheers.

But I also had an experienced masculine, like,

hate, right?

So, like, for all the, you know, I had an NBC article

and Huff Post didn't article in like,

you know, billboard and everything like that.

It was all good.

And then I turned my face.

And it was, you know, Fox News doing an article.

And, you know, some of these huge talking,

or talking heads on Twitter and stuff like,

or X or whatever.

And so, seeing that, it was like, it was just very,

eye opening because I also started getting the DMs

and everything like that.

And it's hard to not look at that stuff, right?

And, but now that we're getting into it more,

like, I'm about to drop the song on,

Friday called, are we great yet?

So, I don't give a fuck no more.

You know what I mean?

If they're going to talk to your shit,

they're going to talk to your shit.

Because here's the thing.

I, you know, I used to think like, damn,

these people really are,

some of these people really are coming for me.

You know what I mean?

And like, it sucks because like,

I want music to feel like an inclusive thing.

But for so long, country music hasn't been inclusive.

Right?

So that was my main goal.

You know, anyway, it's like,

if they're going to fucking cut the gate off,

fuck you, I'll be able to fucking gate right next to it.

You know what I mean?