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2:06column where he was the OCEAN, Carolinas. He had new routes, new concepts, everything. It's been a joy to watch him in Buffalo with Josh and see what they've done. Their offense has been electric. That is DJ Moore, sitting with our friend Matt Harmon. Might have been the Super Bowl. Um, you know, here's to it. You don't have to love it. I don't. But we got to, we all hope it works. He's good. He shouldn't be too old. We just have six months to talk about it. And I think the price the bills paid is insane. Pretty much. 803-0550. Travis Yoast in an hour, Travis is maybe my single favorite hockey analyst and he's also a bills fan. And I don't know what it tells us about what it's going to sound like in an hour, but he just sent me a list of bills, panthers, connections, and it's 49 people long. Did Travis like compile that? Holy cow.

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5:10Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report. I feel insane. And it has almost a decade. But Jeremy Tweet was Bill's trade for someone they know. Well, he's going to be from Carolina. He's right. Here's Steve next. Hi, Steve. Come on. Good afternoon. Hi. I've just been listening to what you're saying. The more I think about the more come around about the trade, they need to receive it. But let me ask you this. Say they make this trade for jail and model. For the second round. Would you be. Would you feel differently? Probably. Younger, better. Out of my division. Probably. I don't know the money. So when you say so he don't. To personally, yeah. DJ DJ's. Just a year older or a year and a half older than Waddle. Yeah. And he's had him. He's more productive. He's he hasn't missed a game. I mean, Waddle has missed how many how many games. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, I guess it's I guess it's a good question. But I think more of Waddle is a player younger.

6:12And I don't have to play him twice. So that's by quick reaction to your question. Appreciate the call. All right. Thank you, Steve. Thanks for calling me. Owen is next. Hi, Owen. Hey, how's it going? Good. I just wanted to praise the move a little bit. Everybody's like complaining about how we haven't been aggressive going to try to attack to get a receiver. And now we do. And everybody has a problem with it. The season that we we had traded for digs that season. Digs was 27 years old. And now a 28 year old DJ Moore is too old and then complaining about what we paid. It's almost identical to what the Texans paid us for digs for a one year rental. Just feels like everybody's piling on being when like we should be praising them for actually being aggressive. Well, digs was 26 when the bills traded for us. So during the season he was 27 years old. So about a year and a half difference is what I'm saying. It's like one like just like the waddle like waddles. Okay. But DJ Moore is too old that the year and a half difference. Well, listen, I don't know where you get your noise.

7:14And I can tell you where I get mine. But you're saying everybody's hating on it. Is that what you're hearing? Like people are all hating on it. Like from the recent callers like the last guy's the first guy I've seen really defend it. And then I go on Twitter and I'm seeing people complain about it. It just feels like we're piling on being just because like it's a little bit of a being hate trade right now, which is well deserved. But not for me. Finally, aggressive to go get a receiver and we're not that it's not the one we want. I just I think I think aggressive is the wrong point. And I would have said this every single time drafting key on Coleman at pick 33. It's not a lack of aggressiveness. It's bold. It's bold. Drafting Dalton concade in the first round. It's not a lack of aggressiveness. It's the opposite. Like the bills have not failed if that's how you'd want to put it. Maybe you wouldn't. Maybe you would. The bills have not failed at pass catcher for a lack of trying. Look at the list. It's not 49 people like Travis's Carolina list. Look at the people they've brought in. Like it's not like they just ignore Palmer was expensive.

8:17Shakir got a huge extension. Like they've done tons of work. Like last like last year we were signing guys off the street. We're not trading for anybody. It was a lack of aggressiveness where we were in terms of last year. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. The being wanted you to know after the deadline passed that he tried for Waddle. Like, is that a lack of aggressiveness? Is that like not trade trying to trade for Waddle or is just not succeeding? I just more I mean, I think we may be aggressive. It's not the right term. But like I feel like we should be praising this more than complaining about a year and a half difference. Or we gave up a second round pick. And when we had got that in compensation for digs, it was a one year rental. Well, I would put those things together, Owen. Like it's it's an equation. And the age difference and the money that they've promised him. I mean, they even reworked them to guarantee money in three years. Like it's not just one thing or the other. It's all of it together that for me makes this tough.

9:20And then who the player is and we can all have different opinions about the player. I'm not telling you. I don't think he's good. I just I guess I'm going to have to say this every every five minutes. He was somebody who was never in my hair. Like DJ Moore is not Jalen Waddle or Tyree Kill or somebody I had to play against like ever. But I mean, have they ever actually played against him? But still like what you got from him were the sort of weird moments or excuses. And I just thought there were better ideas that would have probably been cheaper. And I thought if you told me they were going to get DJ Moore. I'm like, okay, well, there's talent there. But I'm not going to really pay anything, right? It's going to be kind of free because the bearers don't want them around. Everybody knows that. And it so wasn't. But you know, there's probably two sides to every one of those stories walking off the field during a play. Who's ever seen that before? I mean, he was so fed up with. And our bills fans going to just tell me now like that's fine.

10:23I hope not over sort of honest about this to ourselves. And then the last play of their season was against the Rams in the playoffs in overtime. And Caleb Williams is picked off. And now you're going to tell me this is a Collinsworth problem probably because I know bills fans and Collinsworth. Like that makes any sense. He goes right into like what did DJ Moore just do? Why did he stop? And I don't know. Why did he stop? There's just stuff with him that even from way out here turned me off. And then you tell me I got to pay a second and promise him huge money for three years. Like, I don't know. I'm out. They're in. I'm out. Here's David next. I David. Hey, guys. How's it going? I'm fine. Yeah. I mean, like, look, I'm probably beating the dead horse here, but I mean a second round pick for, you know, a guy with this production and the price tag that it comes with it makes absolutely no sense.

11:25And it just kind of reinforces like what has been being to kill his heel. I mean, like, we just know concept for ROI from a salary cap perspective. And we're paying a lot of mid guys to do a lot of mid things. It's not Josh Allen's contract. Yeah, that's a fair straightforward line about it, I think. Yeah, thanks. Here is Jerry next. Hi, Jerry. Hey, Mike. How are you? OK. Do you ever have a player on your fantasy team that taints what you think of him? And because you watched him much more closely, I had DG more two years ago. And all I kept thinking is, all I see out of him, and it might have been a product of Justin Fields, are the Shakira routes, the bubble screens, everything within two yards of the line of scrimmage. And I think 20, whatever it is, 29 to the cap and giving up a second rounder is a huge price for someone that I haven't seen exhibit what we need.

12:27Well, I don't know that that part of it is up in the air for me because like there is a stat today about how he's had top five targets of more than 20 air yards in the league over the last few years, whatever the exact statistic is. So I don't think he's just running all short. And if he is, that's not necessarily a DJ more flaw. So I wouldn't, I'm not inclined to bang on him for that. I mean, I think he's probably a pretty complete player. And I've got the likes of Matt Harmon telling me so who, you know, I know who to listen to, I think. And that's a lot for me. So I'm not, I'm not down on him as a player in any way except for kind of like the weirdness of certain moments. And that just sort of takes me back to digs. Same college, by the way. It takes me back to digs because the bills got to find digs and he was such a home run.

13:35And then it kind of changed to the point where. Do we want to care about like that he's sort of putting his arms out toward Alan, like make a better throw. Do we want to care about that? These guys have a relationship. They've been in elite combination. Do we want to care about that? And I did because I thought that was such a bad sign for where they all were. And maybe I was right because they traded them and I was not expecting that. And I get that from this player too. That's probably at least a little unfair because he hasn't been here yet. And I'm not closely examining his routes or his team even. But that's like what I think of because and this as it happens with receivers. This kind of happens a lot where you've got this production and this talent and this level of startup. But you know why this A B and C. And that's the impression I have of DJ more that there's stuff that I kind of hope just doesn't come to the surface.

14:43But I'm just a fan out here like you are having your own opinion of the player. And yes, of course I've had that opinion about players in fantasy because I've had everybody in fantasy. I have everybody every year. Here's Louie next. I Louie. Mike, you know, I love you to death. But I have to disagree with you today. I really, really do because DJ more. Okay, I know you're saying about primatitis receivers. They put up some, you know, they they they smart, they complain, they cry. I get into primatitis. But the guy is productive. Okay, he didn't have a great year here last year. But if you look at his numbers, look at his average per catch. That's the availability. The guy never misses a game. The guy's good. The guys are steady. We're all runner. Yeah, okay, we can't talk about Mike. Let's be honest more like a third wrong pick. Okay, look where we're picking. We get back a fifth. You call Coleman a first round pick to.

15:44Hey, there's bus everywhere, man. Do you call Coleman a first round pick if this trading a second is actually a third? Is that how we're going to do this? It's not a second. I'm just saying it's a late second wrong pick. Okay. Yeah. It's not a mid second wrong pick or high second out pick. Louis, you're not telling me a single thing I don't know. I'm trying to say is he's a good player. I said that too. Well, what are you complaining about? What's the issue? Haven't you been listening? Yeah, you don't like the value. I get it. You don't know. There's your answer. You answered your own question. Well, you think you think that they're going to cut them and just let them go like that? If they do that, it's because they don't want their top struck. Okay, I get it. Every team is in a certain situation. Some teams are different from the captain of other teams. But the guy is a good player. Might be having a player on our team that's available. Okay. So this guy at least is good. Well, listen, I'm not wearing my bills goggles, I guess.

16:45Louis, I can't even hear you anymore. I don't know. I didn't say the bears that I knew the bears were going to release them. I just know that there was speculation along those lines because his role was compromised. And the money is ridiculous for a player giving them what he gave them last year. And he's a year older. So I'm not telling you, don't go telling people that in your life that I said that, I just read that it was possible. And I just can never imagine feeling like I'm just so far removed, so out of touch with this kind of speculation that I would feel like I had to give a second-round pickup. Which is not a third. It is late. You're not telling me anything I don't know. I'm sorry if you thought you were. 803-0550, I might show. Bulldog is out sick. Tomorrow is NHL trade deadline day. And so we very much want to have him back for that as we do every day. Thanks for listening. Your calls are welcome. This is WGR.

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