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True Crime Podcast 2026 - Police Interrogations, 911 Calls and True Police Stories PodcastAnother Genius In The Interrogation Room Thinks He Will Get Away With It. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

Welcome to your top true crime hop for the variety and episodes you're looking for enjoy just she's probably talking to me and we communicated so she found you she told me who times come over you know when you met her I want to say like the first time I actually seen her in person let's just say basically just when you first saw her and I'm sorry I just got a prison of April so I don't say mate so early or late may probably may I'm not sure because a lot of girls talking to Facebook so then may you remember the first time you actually like saw her face

face to face you sometimes you was it early or early to where did that you take place better home what street was that on you know the numbers I think that's why and that's basically about there at West Creek and you know where it's like right now so it's pretty like record right out of the way well yeah like whatever it is I know it's a mainstream right there automation is so is that her house or a friend's house or there's her house her house so she might go over there and see okay so she always you provide the address to someone correct yes sir while I was the people from a club she was arguing somebody some guy a guy I think one okay well no they're one some guy didn't want but this is after you've already chatted with her over there right you know this is actually the first initial meeting this is my first time meeting her mr. how did she how did you know go pick her up a club she told me I was but you really miss me supposed to go to the house but my why I don't have a

chorus so my why I kind of would be as in the round something about time I got never why she was like well I made some type of bar club or something like that so I'm okay so I went over there so I went there she she was in a part of life that you know I'm saying had other club which club it was I did I've never went to the club my first time it was like a man what's out of town I want to say this my good I know it's close to enemies so there's like the north side what's going on now that's like they don't have good enough blood 21 area be uh around the area around the area you build maps of enemies all against isn't it's a all right yeah I think this club was I think it's a little too was it right next door to it wasn't right next door it's the old club that wasn't that club my one they couldn't miss me I'm gonna say it's not really like it's not really like a black club it's like like you know masters and stuff like that so it's right next to them against her like a little bit down the road

to have you a little bit down the road I know the other needs to know the chrome chrome is right right to us okay so it's further than I'll tell you nice so you met up there and you were right with somebody I guess and you'll pick her up you okay and then from there you went to her house yeah we found the mister dude she was arguing with and so she still jumped in the car with him now she got in the car with me so then y'all ended up in her house you know what's her house he was there first he was out there there's like he met me you guys there yeah he had right there and he's got like keys to I don't know they have some where she going on there's one you know there's no one Hispanic guy yeah I've got black toys man I don't know she said there was real good friends and stuff for them but he was really aggressive with her when I pulled her I just talked to him coming down like hey man you know he's Hispanic Hispanic or he kind of like he missed you man you know I don't think so I'm gonna say he missed you know what I mean I know might happen ever all right so you pull up there you ever fall you got in there now he's really got a problem with her he's like pulling on and she's mad because he's trying to leave

you know that's for her like a man like why you call me in city as you know family you know what's going on if you want to go in them just know I'm gonna leave I'm stopping my wife leaving my aunt stay because initially y'all supposed to just stay there but she might ain't just come over into the world we're gonna wipe that with my friend I know it was a male you know I said so when I got when I realized that whenever they came out some told me to have her come outside so when she came outside that's when he he followed along and they was arguing and touching the number eight man what kind of what she called me to but first let's give him an you know what I'm saying she called he called that I got in the car there and I pulled it on her and then that was dead she got to call me and he burnt down and he was hit to her house and we went there he was already there okay you know what I'm saying so I had all that work out I mean for you yeah we got we got there I mean my wife pulled out we got there I got out my wife pulled out he had to go right through it open and it's called he got black charge he was on the side of it on that street in front of her house and the friend of his

dog got like a key to her house so I don't know I don't know but I really did like I said I just met it so after a while after I was there I realized it you know okay good I got I got what you call a stepson and I would consider my stepson his mother died which was my baby mother and my daughter died they died in the courtroom and he didn't leave there but he had to spend the night he spent the night like a couple of times there you know saying because I wanted him to but she really told him that it was okay like yeah I taught my aim my stepson over I have seen him I've been a prisoner she might tell him come over out he's at work wherever you come over because she told him like you know saying you don't want to stay here I want to date you're so you're once the night so it's a couple of times he spent the night and make sure well the same date what's his name four days four tests and okay and he is your wife's son that died in the car accident with your daughter we wasn't married but yeah yeah and her name was

Zabida and okay Zabida and that happened four or five years ago so I think one three thousand two and that's when she had a bridge or a three-way ride you know over the mushrooms and trees and they probably do them she or she she ended up dying a fire correct you know how my daughter okay well sorry here then we're up sorry sure so past the second bedroom so I'm gonna be back so this is called quartets quartets which is sometimes staying a second a little okay at one point I guess quartets comes start staying over there oh maybe like that second the sick out by burned off the first time when she needed uh she needed so like a sick of a third baby like so you look after two or three days and then get her a burning off right how long we got before you came back good I always came back so you came back the same day yesterday my later on in danger a couple hours there so um so at that point is when you said

quartets isn't enough coming over you okay and you said I know you initially by the hand but she gave him permission to do it sometimes you get into quartets and you've been communication with him or and you see them all these years rather oh Facebook I had talked to on Facebook the first date of like the second day that I had got out a deal you call me on my Facebook like uh like what's this for the where you talk video chat I mean yeah and yeah a loud bullet on it is on it got or it's laid something like that yeah yeah you got shot you know I'm saying you you know so that's how we got to contact you over there I didn't out for her shit issues and both of you guys were calling that yeah and I'll give you this and he was he agreed because you've had a boy on almost two right I guess I'm gonna jump in around yeah I believe I think he was talking around you know where he was working at the time he said I believe in the card yeah okay um all right so he uh he ended up coming over

did he ever sleep anywhere else in that house besides that second bedroom um not that I know we're all in a garage used to sleep in a garage sometimes but before the couches were in here so why didn't you use the seat in the garage sometimes so why didn't you decide like you've got the bed in one seat on the garage yeah my personal opinion I used to ask him the same thing with when he's made I was like why he's just sitting in the garage and sometimes you can sleep at home but my personal opinion is uh you were smoking K2 and uh we didn't want that in the house so I think he's trying to see him doing that and he just he just suspected he was doing it I mean I know he's not it I'm not really smoking K2 you were smoking K2 and we didn't want to do that inside we see we didn't want to decide I didn't want to decide I didn't want to smoke and he's smoking so the size quartets got a little there hanging out with the guys and they're actually staying there sometimes who else were homeless and this is you the only people that came over to visit me was quartets my brother and uh he is uh my brother's girlfriend in the town of Tiffany you know all right so when

the last time you were actually there oh uh when I lived first of all I was already playing on leaving the coming floor because I've been talking to this girl back here and floor you know that's the right deal that's right so I had already been playing the leaves you know I'm saying that I had told her it is you know I'm saying but I was dealing kind of because of quartets you know I'm saying so I wasn't really quite sure or whatever but what still to deal that I was going to leave is my CV spas now that's when I start that's when I start getting I start getting nervous okay the one time she spas down like all the way all the way all the way spas down that was the that was the same exact date as she told quartets uh that she told quartets then he could live there you know I'm saying I don't know what transpired but I had came in the house that was here back yours I had came in the house I came back from from the back yours I mean I came back from

the house and went back to the back yours when I got to the back yeah he's like want to hear her and because quartets yeah he wants to hear and I'm like what you doing and he was like man I don't know what she was saying but I was more focused on him like I'm looking at him like he's gonna hear her and I'm like what you do when that was going on he was like pop she hit me she hit me and I'm out she hit me and I'm out so I'm like in my mind I'm like you know what I'm like and she just playing with you cuz I'm like oh she ain't just you know even though I'm like they're like what what happened what what's what's trying to have in their face you know what I'm saying so anyway so keep watching him in my mouth so he really elaborate on him like then he starts saying she keep telling me uh there's a mama they she my mama now and this isn't it so I'm like some of my men she don't mean a woman he can't tell me you know his mama did you know she can't can't don't tell me I know maybe your heart's in the right place but you can't wait you stand it

and then the right there's not the right way to put it you know what I'm saying so I can't know that I got I'll tell her I'm like that's just going to have this is going to have so she goes in a house and when she told she wasn't a house man I swear to God man she just falls boom I'm like damn she feel hard I'm trying to help her up I help her up I'm like damn baby the way she's going to work she's all the house like why would you come from the back door with a backyard it so when you walk towards the kitchen like you've been to come through the little dotted area and you coming in the hallway like first all walking down how would she feel that's when I help her up so when I help her up I'm like damn baby she pull away from me she's trying to walk again but I'm going to talk about she fell again so I'm like God man this is like funny toward the kind of you know what I'm saying because she's like I can tell she's she's drunk and she's got like a lot she's drunk a lot of liquor you know what I'm saying so she she's drunk so she falls on her shoulder I'm kind of laughing without laughing off man when I

help her up this time she takes out money give me my mouth so I'm like whoa what's wrong I'm trying to help you boom boom she hit me again so I'm like hey so I grab her arms on my a man please don't hit me you don't say like I don't want to do this it's like I don't want to do all this you don't say it but all this is where the hallway or what this is right in the hallway right now we like this is the second time she fell so when she hit me we're like we're in a hallway but like right in front of the bedroom we sleep in so she walks away and goes towards the living room and I go in the bedroom and I'm like man I'm waiting for it mom like that she just just told my son let you know let's talk about what it was the last time you were actually there oh like I'm gonna say like the 10-40-11 I want to say but I'm really not sure man I'm really I'm just really not sure yeah we're talking about gender right yeah do why why do you think it's a temporary level I mean this is what I think because I came to Florida I'm not even sure what

there came to Florida but I know they had to been around that time because I I wasn't I was I wasn't staying with her for like two or three days before I came to Florida you know how did you get to Florida on the bus yeah where's bus uh Graham you know what city you landed in oh what do you mean like what where's the bus station what part of Florida was the bus station at right here before we walked in here okay um did you buy a ticket there's somebody somebody is my name what do you mean what name was it ticket under uh huh um you know the last name oh no I'm not sure goodbye for you uh my cousin was your cousin and was the last name and where's he at now oh I'm not sure you know his address okay so you think rather temporary levels you're there right what uh again what caused you to leave or why do you want to leave the house uh okay I was trying to figure out a way to leave for one because this is what I'm trying to have him okay so the

the next argument that happens which was the last argument okay the next argument that happened I'm trying to remember how did this happen oh okay then she left with the uh with the uh some one of those you know I'm saying with a client when she referred to him with a guy yeah I see that that the guy was I'm not really don't why it's like this man again I never seen him you know he's driving I know no she wanted me to hide she didn't want him to see did he come in the house where she left I don't know she told she wanted me to hide I didn't I didn't I hid in the bathroom and I closed the bedroom door and I stayed in there so I've never seen him so she left with him yes she did okay where they go I don't know okay so um to share a comeback yeah so man it's what I get to okay so then so um you know I mean she's good like calling her house on talking to me like different spurs do I have a time while she with him this stuff you know I'm saying but

I it started late and I told her I don't know she wants me to hide when it come back on up he's gonna come in I don't know what's going on so I'm I'm getting tired I'm ready to go to sleep but I'm scared to go to sleep because I'm you know I'm saying it in what time you think she left I'm not sure bro how long you think she was gone like in the hours you know what some hours it was nine times late night when she when she got eight inches off four or five six seven I'm not sure I can't remember what time she left I just know I was there by myself oh she would call you to cheer raster hey where are you what time are you coming home with you like that I really she would check in with me she would call her house phone and check in with me for one take where she was at or what time she's coming home um you know I'm saying so until like I'm telling you until she had called and I was like man I'm those and I'll you know I'm saying what do you want me to do because I'm those how you know I'm saying so she was like just stay in the room and I'm with locker front door and I'm gonna come in who writes I'm like I look all that was already done so I just went to sleep by this time uh before I went to sleep though Cortez was there with me

okay so damn so I went to sleep now I woke up when I woke up I seen uh her purse on the whatever you call it the thing next to the bed the nightstand what kind of purse you have then I have no word got the I just remember purse I don't really care to see the types of stuff see I'm purse right there on the nice day so uh anyways so I'm like so she got to be back that's one thing she got the bedroom with you know so I she got to be back so so like she got to be back so anyways um yeah yeah so I'm gonna she got to be back so uh I have a phone that it wasn't on but I used to access uh the internet off of it so that a different phone from the other phone yeah yeah yeah this was actually my phone this was my phone but it just it's not wasn't on you know what I'm saying it's like when you got when you got a prisoner it's a different phone no it's a different phone it was a different phone and having a service on that phone number

called no not just internet just I just actually used to actually hurt her internet hurting okay so damn so um I was going through it to get to her Facebook so I could message her and see what she's doing at home she's come back to me she's there because I'm really kind scared to walk out the room because I don't know if you know say I don't know whether she's what her client is I don't know if he's yeah in a living room or what so I don't say so she don't hear anybody else in the house right no I know my son is there though I come in and check on you now I just I knew that he was there for I went to sleep to give what I'm saying so she tell him to have you need to hide and don't be making it I didn't tell him it but that's why I was calling her like that's nothing I had told her too when I when she called her phone that's why I was like you know you know my son's right now and you know what you want to do that's one of that hey um she's love for somebody and she'll probably be asking me before I don't know I ain't home like I told him I did tell him I did used to tell him like you know she you know I'm saying she be you know turn the tree so I know

there's what she doing you know I'm saying so I did tell him it so but I don't know if I told him that day you told I I'm going to tell him the high I don't think I told him the high I'm gonna tell him I'm like that but uh anyways so before I could even message her she comes in the room and she's got uh now I think I just lie uh anyway well this is where I know I know that I was laying down in the bed and I was walking up in and she was in the bed with me and she was like trying to sit up like a hot lean look something but then I'm out and I was like he woke me up and it's like I just found some of my faces though I'm like she's like tasty tasty something I'm eating it but I'm like I was sausage on it cuz I'm on my face it was just kind of irritating when I was waking up so I'm like I'm good I'm like baby I'm good I'm all right she's like I'm trying to feed you I'm not understand but I'm tired it's got too much sauce on it and so she was lying she was like okay but all right well I'm gonna leave you like her you can eat

it out if you want to eat it and she left out so uh I'm trying to go back to sleep so then the message comes through on my phone again and uh for the you know the Facebook and she's like uh spazin' out you don't have shit you ain't shit you just up in here it's like night just like this you been going and she come back yeah so you don't have I'm trying to be nice to you and feed you and you're being disrespectful and mean and and this isn't that woo woo woo woo so you know I'm saying you ain't saying God said you broke you know I mean you just you know I'm just going like oh she coming from so so I walk out the room no no no I was gonna respond back to it even though we're the same as I'm gonna respond back to it through this uh message on Facebook what was the message she said I was listening to time away I said she was just like you know you don't got shit oh okay I thought you were telling

you it's a person so this is on Facebook this is on Facebook so so I'm like so if I respond to that or if I'm about to respond but what I do remember is that I heard the door slam real hard so which door I don't know so that's why I got up and I left out the room so I left out the room and I went to uh quote just in the other room so I went over there it was like a spare room yeah so I went I went over there and I'm like was that you sent me a w like no it was hurt so I'm like okay so so come sit there she got being a garage you know say so I opened up the garage door and I'm like uh what's wrong you sent me was that you sent me a door what happened you okay she was like yeah I sent me a door it's my house I paid a few years you know she was here you just thought going away so I'm like hey I like listen I'm like man look you told me to come over and tell her watch movies and after that you told me you want to be the stator you you

told my son you weren't going to stay here like hey I didn't ask you for none of this I'm on my arm this you know I said I got someone to go stay up you know I mean I didn't ask you for this you know I'm saying so so she started talking to me so then I'm walking away she there she go again throwing glass man she throwing glass cups and throwing stuff baby man it's on my man you know Roger or yeah now you know she threw it for the garage so I'm like man then that and then she's just throwing stuff in the garage too just cracking glasses and she just just tripping so I'm like man you know some now I'm trying to get through on Facebook trying to get people come give me nobody want to come give me it's late man it's probably like I want to say it's like one two and one to wherever you go then I really don't I ride I hit up a bunch of people my people never respond I mean it's one two o'clock it's morning man and I only got a phone using Facebook you know I'm saying yeah I need a ride or just I need a ride ride ride I hit my brother if he want to come you

don't say I hit my brother I hit my mom up my brother did my mom ask my mom try to wake him up he didn't want to come you know I'm saying I just I was damn best of but but before I even did out. I'm skipping before I even start calling people. I thought I was being slick. I was like, this is what I'm going to do. You know what I'm like. I'm going to pack my little little fewer outfits I got. I'm just packing it up real quick. And I'm just going to sit in the living room. I don't wait on the ride. Maybe she'll like see me about to leave and talk to you. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I did. So I'm going to talk. I'm going to talk to her too. I'm like, man, she tripping again. Broke throwing glass and stuff like that. She didn't hit me or nothing but I'm like, man, she tripping again. I'm like, man, just probably not safe. We need to want us to really be here, man. I'm like, man, you know what I'm saying? So, but I'm just like, just, you know, just be alert, you know what I'm saying? So anyway, so, man, so I go on, like I said, I've read a little bag. I'm going to sit in the living room. She's going to go ride. So I'm sitting there. She'd come through the gun. From the garage, she comes to the living room. So she's like, oh, she's seeing my little bag or whatever. So she's

like, oh, somebody come get you. No, she's like, are you about to leave? And I'm like, if I can get a ride. So she was like, okay, wait up. Get your seat. Yeah, right now. So I'm like, all right, so now I'm walking back to what Cortez did on that another night. I mean, she's going to get out right there, you know what I'm saying? So I go back there and let her know. So when I go back to her, she goes back to like, what is it? Like runs ahead of me, you know what I'm saying? And she's trying to like stop me from opening up Cortez's door, you know what the door is at or whatever. So I'm like, come on, man, let me talk to my son. So her hand is on the door now. My hand is over her hand on the door now. And I'm twisting the door now. I'm opening up the door. So she's gnashing her hand and she runs. Before she runs to the garage, she tells Cortez, she's like, you don't have to go. You don't have to go. You don't have to go. So then she runs to the garage. So I tell Cortez, I'm like, man, you said a team. You can be 18. You want to stay here? There's some you, man. I'm like, but I'm going to go. You know what I'm saying? So she put me out anyway.

So I got to go, bro, I don't know what to tell you. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, you help me with this shit, though, because I don't know. I have no idea what I'm about to do. Like I don't know what you know what I'm saying? So help you with what? The little thing that I have my clothes in. So I'm like, help me. So you have it in like a, I have some little grocery bags inside like a, like a little, you know, I have like a little, what do you call a little, beans like a little, like a little beans, classic Italian here. Like a little great container, I said, then my brother had bought for my mother's house for, you know what I'm saying? Clay, I don't claim to change clothes. We're going to have some of that. Before, before I even get out the door when Cortez coming up there, I don't know what he said. He said something to her in the garage, but she's on the phone. I walked to her garage with him, which did not walk. I mean, my clothes right here by the front door, the right door right there. I'm just like this. So I

overhear a conversation on the phone. So she's like, yes, I want to report or get just, I just got in my hat. Ooh, and I'm like, I'm like, I ain't even touched. I ain't even touching until you know what I'm talking about. So she's like, I'm like, yeah, so she's like, yeah, you're going to jail, you're going to jail, you're on the world, yeah, you cut your mind well, you're going to jail, you're going to jail, you're going to jail, I told you, if you leave here, you're going to jail, you're going to jail. Come on Cortez, send me with this, let's go. Because this is what I'm thinking. I know I ain't touched this girl, but what she might is, I cut my life on top when I got out of prison. So it doesn't matter if I touched this girl, not, well, for this year, I'm going to jail. So I'm just going to leave, man, because I want to get her a benefit, I want to get her the benefit of her seeing that she got me put in jail, right? Yeah, the satisfaction that's the world in the world, that she got me put in jail, no one's like me, she, so, man, so, that ain't even the most, man, I'm serious, man. So we leave, we leave, you know what I'm saying? He helps me, man. What do I do? I want this from

appointments, right behind seven living right there. So I just set my stuff down right there. So I'm using a, his little, uh, number of phones that I ain't getting, whatever makes me. So anyway, so I'm trying to call it while I can't get nobody, can't get nobody to come give me. I mean, it's just, that's when I started calling out a ride. I never called a ride when I touched that, I was calling everybody my brother, my mom, my computer, I never called a dirt. So mind you, I can't access Facebook. So a lot of people know about how I just, I can't access Facebook because I'm not in a house no more. You get what I'm saying? So I'm just over here and I, my nervous and limited that I know I can't get nobody to come give me and quartets. He likes it, let me see me put me out. So, yeah, I'm gonna go back. So if I'm on my man, just chill a little while longer with me, then he's like, man, what you want me to do pops like, you know, say some things about my man. He worked right there and you know, saying it's like, I'm like, man, just

go here, go here, go back. You know what I'm saying? So he goes back and like, wow. In my mind, what I'm estimating by time he made a bag like I'm just like estimating in my mind, okay, he's back already. Next day, you know, I see two, four work police cars come flying down the street. So I'm begging to myself like, is she like put a line on my son and she doing this? You give them say that's the first thing called my mind like, you're sitting and you're standing right behind the sun and you're like, I don't know, nobody over there, I'm just shit right there and I don't really feel comfortable right there and I don't, you know, so I leave the little, the little being thing that I got my little clothes in and whatever you know, say, I'll leave it right there, you know what I'm saying? And I'll walk back towards a house, okay, with when I walk back towards a house, I don't see no police officers, but nothing, but why if I

kick in on the phone? So I hit Cortezza and I'm like, I'm on Facebook, on your other phone, I'm on Facebook, okay, so other, I only have Facebook, I hit him up like, you okay? He like, yeah, but he like, he's like, it was a kind of weird angle where I was kind of weird because every time I'm saying something to him, she hears what I'm saying. So I'm like, like, like, Cortez, like I'm checking on you, man, I'm trying to make sure you are right, but it's like something weird is going on, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like something weird is going on, so every time I tell him, like, man, are you okay, man? I know you feel like maybe you ain't got to wear a belt, but it might just not, might not be the best place for you because I don't even think of the best place for me, bro, and I can't even get a like a big deal. You know what I'm saying? And she's in the background, yeah, are you going to jail? She knows it's me. You know what I'm saying?

It's not my man, so anyways, all night, so she's next to far. I hear him like, stop, stop, stop. She's next to home for him. So she's like, if you don't come here right now, you're going to jail. I didn't, I didn't call it for Lisa. I didn't really call it for Lisa. If you don't come here, if you don't come here right now, you're going to jail. So I'm like, man, look how you action. You don't say no. Oh, you don't say I'm just worried about my son. You don't say it. But really, I really don't have nowhere to go right now to maybe people start waking up and trying to come give me. So I'm on her porch, but now I'm saying they're wrong. Yeah, I sit down on a porch. She don't know I'm on a porch. So I tell courtiers, I open the door, I tell courtiers to open the door. So he opened the door. Yeah, I was just by a belt or on Facebook, but at the same time, I tell him come open the door. He's not responding to me. So I just run the doorbell. So now it's not secret that somebody's at the door. So by the time I bring the doorbell, like, he made it, he opened up the door

and she's like, who was that? So he was like, there's no props. So I go in, she's in a garage, he's in one open up the door. So I go in and she's like, are you going to stay? And I'm like, I don't know. She's like, what if you don't go on a chair? I'm like, hey, no, no, I'm like, man, what's going on, you go out the house and go up and with the phone and say, I ain't no one's going on me. You go, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. So I'll leave back out, but I don't go nowhere. I'm sitting on a porch. But so I caught courtiers on Facebook again. He like, she called the police for really time. I'm like, man, he didn't have to to this girl. So he like, he was like, so she, I guess you got a phone whatever so with police so I'm still on Facebook with Quartet and he like He like pops She is crazy. She's hitting on herself. She's hitting herself. I'm like what so I'm trying to get on my you need to record it

I want you to record it. You know saying oh, so then I don't know if you record it on I don't know I'll try to get it recorded by any cap record while we go on Facebook I guess but I don't know but then he's like How she just she just came in the room with me. She packed it up on stuff You know what I'm saying? So I'm like I'm like man. I know it's party ain't Fiddling it, but it might be even though she doing it might be the best thing bro, you know I'm saying so he's she packing this stuff up So he's like he's like helping a packet, but I'm still I can still hear what's going on But I can't really see because you know you don't got a phone on hand So he's like helping a packet so then I don't know what transpire. She just Bused out crying. I don't know they was I can't remember. I heard of talking. It wasn't that negative or nothing It's just I just really can't remember but something led to another and she was just like He was confused like she cuz you like you don't have to go He's like he packed him up my stuff. He's like well, you're dead once you leave. Say now

You know saying this this mid and she like you don't have to go She's part crying and crying and crying so I'm like So I'm like what is man? That's case just just stay in the room ghostly and stand in room just go sleep So what ended up making you leave? I'm gonna add about it all that but what let's talk about the last day that you got up and let that The last day the one made it easy for me to leave is because she needed me She needed me to leave because she says she had a client. There was a good client and Possibly one spend a night. Okay, so So what time of day was this when she first started telling me this she was telling me this I want to say It was afternoon that being you know get late so now we're talking about the 10th or 11th or 12th Whatever day the last day was if I live on a 10th day and that's what they were I never want to live it and that's what they are doing around noon. She starts on. Yeah Yeah, that's like going over. No, it's later than it way later than anything

It was late. I'm gonna say bye Shit already tell me that they was coming but they weren't going to be getting into late I don't even think they I think that they was from Oklahoma or something like that So so what time you think it? When she started telling me what time she started telling me what time did I leave you know what time she started to talk to you Around by even time afternoon. Even it wasn't noon. It was afternoon. I'm gonna say evening Yeah, and we had just been chilling no argument of them We were just chilling watching movies and stuff in a living room. So what was the deal? I mean, we don't really talk like we don't really talk about it. I see the leave on this Yeah, she wants she wants to want me to leave it and he's getting in late and he's gonna be there So she gave you an hand for this game. I never asked nobody's name So now we're getting closer to this Okay, so what time do you end up having leave you? I end up leaving late. I end up leaving like Bout I'm gonna say about

So what happened around this time that those time we go It should tell you how to go or get a glove or wrap in there. I was waiting on right. Wait on right. Let's see. She had further like at first Okay, at first I was waiting on the bar. I was trying to give my brother come give me but my brother said worked That's a nature. Yeah, so my brother said work and she was trying to get him to come over there You know, and she was like Come come you can come over and chill Before you know I guess before I Get ready to leave whatever we just chill in drinking just chillin and whatever. Whatever. No saying that was all on Facebook You know, I'm saying oh, what not but anyways, I left Okay, what time do you leave my life one on the clock? You'll pick you up. Uh, I walked out the street first for a little bit You know, I'm saying in a cuz I was on the phone. I didn't want to hear who I was talking to Just right in front house, cuz I still need to use the The And so I had it because I didn't know I didn't know my cousin's number by heart, so

I had to get them I don't know we just couldn't come give me right then so that I can't So we'll end up happening. We'll end up happening is uh, I end up walking So I told her so she told me she told me she was like If you can't find a wife maybe maybe you could come back You know, I'm saying like maybe you could come back and let me see what's going on You they already stuff with you or what you have with you All I have was the little bean so I had like Beyond just left the plastic container at the house. I took out walking at first You know, so I took out walking because I wasn't gonna pull up and I still be there So I didn't have anything with you at the time as a crime. I didn't have to hang with you so me I end up coming back and to use the wifi and I don't see no cards after everything like this I come back to use the wifi and this when my cousin Find me right. So he had your idea right? Yeah, he had your right So he asked somebody to come pick me up

or text back to her face looking face. I got your right Facebook. So anyway, so I give them I give them right he asked me to add risk. That's all he asked So he asked the address so I waited there and I'm on the corner of the street They came and picked me up to pick you up. I don't know what it was. My cousin gave you know sense So I mean, I don't you know, he sent a baby to pick me up and I really want to go to white black. It's back in black So it was a some type of black car. I'm not sure. My cousin got black car too Did you get some type of black car? I'm not sure if you can tell his name or nickname or anything like that He'd be but I really don't remember because I mean I got saved day. No chance. I don't want to What corner were you waiting on the south end by Alta Mesa or the other end? I was waiting on it on that end down there But he had passed I guess he drove by me and I didn't know so when he drove by me That's when I started walking their way and so I passed I was waiting with a Alta Mesa and whatever Will be right there and then I start walking back this way and he just like in the middle of street past

I have passed me and I got in the car and we live we live after the other way We went towards the seven letters and he took me to On it And whose house did you go to? Uh That's on Conway I'm not so even though it's three by four Yeah, I was in his house And tons of the big guy, right? You know it's bedroom Yeah, you don't get out to bed So you went there That didn't give you permission to go there. He just need you. You're okay to go there Always good to go to the top up. Okay. Do you tell them why you were there? No, I just didn't want to go to my mom's house. So I just went over there. Okay At one point you hear that something may have happened back over at Angela's house. Oh The same day to my ticket the same day they're my ticket Then I'm supposed to leave for my ticket this girl

Somebody the girl I want to say Some somebody give me up and say to one of my Facebook friends have been contacting all of my friends and This Facebook friend doesn't know None of these friends you're giving them somebody and was like trying to find out where where where was I and what happened was going on So then uh next day no somebody told me The when I found got a contact with her. She got a contact with somebody. So I got a contact with him. They was like They find the girl dead in a house. You get what I'm saying. So I'm like Okay, I really need to leave. You know, I'm saying because you I know that was like when I found that out I want to say that I have been in my cousin house for like two or three days already so I don't know. I got scared. Did you already have the ticket? Are you about to take it after you find out? Oh No, the tickles are already bought. Thank you. Well, I'm thinking I've got to ask you

Besides your great tub with those Is there anything else that you took from that house? What are yours and I use? Oh Oh the two flash兵 she gave me I took them for not but I had took them before They got took them away from the house before before I was before the end of the year before the last time she told you to leave She had a guy come up. That was the last time So you remember I mean it's prior to that you took a TV. It's probably about two Three days Where did you take those? Oh, the tone of the house. Yeah, you know what brand TV they were in Because I have no intentions on keeping them on the size they were I really don't think you're going to respond But one of them was a little small when they was a little bit different kind of different sizes Okay, they weren't just small even one of them small But there's two of two TVs

Why do what is she giving those to you? She wanted to tell me one of them I put it in In the room what it is I wanted to I never did because see how it was going to be in the garage and I wanted to raise what happened to those teachers there I don't know I didn't know I had to get in touch with these people. So I don't know why he got in touch with someone named Joe Joe I don't know his name. They'll turn Because we're on expedition. Yeah What she's done for All right, man. Well, here's the deal you want Obviously We've been able to get Some of your story here I think you know, you've been able to read detective eight nine I don't know what you're expecting none of your expecting kind of what you see on TV or people coming in here

Let you and scream at you and bang on the table. Well, that's not the kind of guys. We aren't that To be honest, I didn't know what to expect from you. I thought you were going to be a hard Or spelling because you know, obviously you've been around the block. We get our homework All this including stuff about you and other people that we dealt with in this case So honestly, I really know what to expect. Okay, I thought you're going to be a hard court. No You know, I don't want you know Just being a hard court, you know, especially being from the east side I grew up on the east side and I know how some of the guys are You know, I guess and at one point we ended up with Is on danger and you may or may not be aware, which I think you are you're smart guy You know, he was arrested. I know he was arrested. Okay, he was arrested and I don't know how close you guys are. How tight you are What you believe what kind of guy he is or like what you know kind of man he is But I can tell you that Is on danger has never caught himself in a position where he is facing a cap for murder case. What's on about fiber death here

source punishment So whether you're or not you think that he's the type of guy that's I'm gonna talk to us that I don't use what we need to know He's gonna sit there and take his The same kind of case where he was gonna do that. I think he tried But at the end of the day he knew that we had way too much information on this case Regarding him or regarding other people that may have been with some day truth and he told us the truth Okay, not only that we have video of Pretty much played by playing on what happened and you probably talk to your mom We don't want to touch your mom, but he called your mom and told your mom They got played by play about and he asked your mom and I'm not I haven't He wants us. We've been here and I'm on the fly straight He told your mom To tell my brother you need to do what he needs to do to get someone to do your office And I'm not pushing you about that man. That's that's a hundred percent true Okay, he said you need to tell my brother to do what you got to do to get some years off That is something that I would have never thought about saying

Those kind of words that's straight from his mouth Okay, he gave me and gave me protective pay details about what happened in that house Very specific that only he wouldn't know And we knew that at one point he came back to the house We didn't understand why he would have come back to that house, okay And I'm not gonna give you about what he told us leave nothing white came up to the house But I want to tell you because I want you to believe me that he told us what happened Okay, he told us that he came back to the house And he was locked out of the house and he tried to get back in and jumped offence The back door was locked He broke the old door with his elbow and comes up all up And he had a wrap his arm around with his teacher Okay, and then he left out the front door and Was actually supposed to have been at work When all this was going on and he left work to come hang out with you and then shoot at the band And then what happens happens and then ends up having break back into the house And then he ended up going back to work to finish off his shift, okay

I'm telling you that we would have had those details without have gotten it from him You know, and this is why I hope this is this is what I'm talking to you I did not kill that girl So everything that you're saying I don't want to turn because I know you got to care I'm gonna not kill her If you didn't kill her then it's our daydrick you know I did not kill her because I can say without a fact They use on daydrick and we were 10 cents with the last three in that house and she was alive The car pulls up. I'll give you a little bit more and this is the last time I'm gonna give you because I'm only trying to help you up Really, and I'm trying to help you to help on daydrick and I'll help the 17 year old kid It's supposed to be care about Car pulls up So on daydrick goes in I say what kind of car you drive a silver car drive his girl's Tiffany's car drives in drives up goes in the house Few minutes later. They're coming out. We shit and you're coming out of some folks and stuff Cortez ends up not getting in the car at the end of the day when you guys leave he ends up calling a ride

That car pulls up. It's a black charger with black wheels. He gets in that car You all kind of meet over at the car and then he leaves you get in the passenger seat and you leave it's there man So the thing is either He did it when you didn't maybe even Cortez But I don't think Cortez because we haven't budgeted him yet I don't know for a fact that he is on daydrick or you're the ones that end up shooting that lady So that's kind of where at man So obviously we made this trick for you and for your brother really because he said you need to talk to him He caught his mom. I think your mom he told him her Tell him what brother to do. He's got to do to get some easy years off That's kind of where we're at man. So because in the day we're here for you You want to stick to the story you just gave us about how you aren't there That's fine because the way we're going to write it up is that this is what you told us People are going down the road with the ones are going to lick at this and they didn't only get you as that person That doesn't give a shit as a hardcore criminal and just ended up killing this woman for every reason who knows what Or it's this guy that you may have made a mistake

So right now I know it's on daydrick's tell me but I got to hear that from you Because if in the day he did it or you did it or both you don't do it because right now both you are in the same car I Kind of where I'm in and I haven't one time we've been here. I don't I have okay, which part I prefer not to say Okay, there's one key thing behind those aren't just I just yeah, I'm I just want to turn to a way to be right now I want to turn to turn to make an interview and I read I read a speaker to go and talk anymore Well, you have that right, okay? I'm gonna have to feel here. Don't say another word. You can turn it into it. I'm gonna kind of explain what's happening now You're probably going to be here until you give about to put work It's on daydrick's already in jail and we want to be trying to capture murder I know there's other people that were aware of the situation. It could be your father sister and Tiffany time and Joseph and a couple other guys are in the house and I'll be doing First time all right Um, I don't know when you're gonna end up back in four words. I'll leave you a card if you decide you want to set the record straight

Um, call me or send me a card or have your mom with me to the show now you've listen now go to your thing

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