An Epic Day with the Girls

0:00This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. The Hyundai Getaway sales event is going on now. Getaway with a deal so right it almost feels wrong. Right now you can get great deals on Hyundai's most popular models including their adventure seeking SUVs like the Hyundai Santa Fe or Santa Fe Hybrid, the Tucson or Tucson Hybrid, the bold and stylish Elantra loaded with the latest tech or go all electric with the Ionic 5 or Ionic 9. So get down to your local Hyundai dealer and get away with a deal you'll love during the Hyundai Getaway sales event. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis. And I want to know, are you a Charlotte?

1:00And they're my love. Yes, thanks for having me back. Oh, awesome. I know. A two-time visitor. Only very special people get to come back. I feel like I'd have you. And we just have a really fun day. Thank you for being with me. Thank you. I love driving you around in my new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. It was awesome. I know. It's so spacious. We can just like stretch out and relax. I like being driven around by you. It was really fun. It was fun because we're here in LA where we both live. But we've also both lived in New York and we had just rewatched the LA versions of Sex and City where we came in like, I want to say the year 2000, like so long ago. Wow. Crazy, right? Yeah. And we went to so many places in the show that are really fun to look at just from an actor standpoint, like the Warner Brothers Live. And then we drove around today our neighborhood and then we went up Beverly Glen. We got pies. It Winston pies.

2:00We talked about good places to go. So I was just curious, like, when did you move to LA and how do you compare New York and LA? Well, my family moved to LA when I was nine years old. Wow. And then I moved to a Gora. So I was going to high school there and I started going on auditions to become an actress. Right. And then, you know, I moved into the city. The minute I graduated high school. I moved to West Hollywood and then I went to UCLA for a few years. But wow. Yeah, I've lived in LA since I was nine. You must have so many memories. I do. Is it a good thing when you drive around and you think, why don't I remember my first audition at Warner Brothers or I remember going here? It's nostalgic. I mean, there's definitely, I think LA is the kind of place. I don't know if you can relate, but sometimes I'm here and I love it and other times I get really sick of it. But then I leave and then I miss it so much when I come back. I remember why I love it. I mean, 100%. Yeah. Absolutely. So, I had my house here. I got my house. I think after the pilot. And I remember Sarah Jessica saying, why did you do that? And I was like, well, because it's like this tree house and I love it, because there's a part of me that needs the nature and the calmness, but then you do get bored.

3:03You can get a little bored, right? I think in LA, everyone's in the entertainment business. Okay, not everyone, but a lot of people. No, a lot of media people. Yeah. Everywhere you go, everyone's like, oh, my script, my thing. My true. So it is nice to meet people that are doing different things, but there's so many cool creative people here. That's true. That's one reason why I love LA. Absolutely me too. I mean, coming back, it's very easy when you've been gone, you know, because sometimes when we're on location or whatever, it's kind of hard. You're in a different, we're in the winter and it's 80 degrees here today. Absolutely. You cannot beat that, right? No. We cannot beat that. We had a fun little picnic with like lemonade and pies. That's my dream of, I feel like I was on sex with the day today. I'm so glad. And you look very glamorous, very, very, very, more glamorous than me. Why? Because I love being with a fashion icon and not to, like, kind of dress up, right? I'm so not. I play a fashion icon, but I am not a fashion icon. You're kind of R1. You're so sweet. I don't think, I don't. I don't think of myself that way because I do feel like sometimes in life, especially in LA, which the vibe is like really relaxed.

4:03Sometimes we're now out in the world, like at the grocery store, wherever I feel like people are like, oh, they're disappointed that you're not more dressed up. Yes. That's funny. I know. I know. I know. Very glamorous. Yeah, I'm like, Chloe, like, I'm not trying. That's because you're here. It's because you're here. It's because you're here. It was only for you. No, normally I just throw on some yoga clothes, basically. I know. And that was, right? Me too. And then people are like, oh, my goodness. I feel the pressure. You know, I do. I do. I do, but you always look incredible. All right, let's compare. When did you live in New York? Oh, well I have a place in New York still. No, wait. So I bought my apartment in 2001 and I still have it. That was so smart. Yes, yes. They never bought. I always rented. And then it was just a very serious point. It was just a very serious point. I had a place that I really love right by the parks. It was like where the Fuddy-Juddy people lived. That's very sharp. I loved it. I know. Right, so sharp. Because I always had my dogs with me, right? Right. So then I needed the park and I loved the park.

5:04But then there came a time and it was like. The downtown is cooler, right? Oh my God. It's so cool. And I have friends who don't want to come north of 14th Street. And it's challenge. But I just go down. It's fine. I go down. I get it. But now, because I don't have a place anymore because my business manager at a certain point was like, that's not smart. Yeah. All right. So now I stay in Airbnb. So you get to pick and choose and kind of live all the different lives. So what's your favorite neighborhood in New York? Well, we did a Brooklyn summer. Oh, that's nice. Incredible. I love Brooklyn. Yeah. Prospect park. Incredible. But then last summer, when we filmed the show, we stayed in the village. So it was pretty amazing. Yeah. I mean, you know, the Carey House is such a tourist attraction. I think I actually posed in front of me. Now I got a picture on the screen. Yeah. They really don't like us. They're very mad at us. Really? Because everyone's posing in front. You walk down that street. You find people posing there. I know. Twenty. Including me. Seven. Yeah. I think that's adorable. I walk on the other side and I try to rush by. But no one notices me because they're so busy taking their pictures.

6:04Yeah. But they put a chain up now. So are the neighbors? They don't like it. It's not even the neighbors. It's the owner of the building. Oh. I just want to say the address. Okay. Okay. Everyone probably knows. But everybody knows. Yeah. Yeah. And you know the sexless city got me into Magnolia bakery, pancakes, which I'm obsessed with. The last time we did a Hyundai film, we went to the Magnolia, we sat on the bench. It was incredible. I love Magnolia. We do. We love Winston-pie too. See, now we're seeing the different places to go. New York LA. I told you you gotta try Beverly Hills cookies. I'm excited. Yeah. I'm excited. Heather's sharing some places to malate places for me to go. to me to go. She told me some restaurants to go to. I love it. I mean Beverly Hills Cookies, which is my birthday and a friend sent me some and now I'm obsessed. They taste so good. So you still have your place in New York. How often do you get there? I mean, I try to go a lot. I mean right now since it is like 15 degrees in New York and it's 80 degrees here. I'm pretty happy to be here. But no, I love going there. I do. That's so nice you do both. That's good.

7:07That's so good. Because it's like an investment property as well. So different than having like a Airbnb. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, that's so smart that you bought it and held on to it. I know. Really good a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really good. I should have been so smart. But no, no, no. I was busy buying L.A. We owned property in L.A. So that's just smart. I know, it's all good. It's all good. No complaints here. No complaints here. You know, there's so many cliches about L.A. Okay. Do you find it be true? I'll cliche that you find it be true and maybe one that you don't think is true. Okay. Well, the very worst thing about L.A. I will just say the thing I hate about L.A. is the traffic. It's terrible. I mean, no joke. I mean, you can sit in your car easily two hours a day just running some very basic errands. Like, that's crazy. This is true. But this is why I need to give you my list of Brentwood things because see, I don't cross the 405 if I don't have to. I know that's smart. Do not. That is smart. Like, you got to get everything. A lot of my friends are living over on this. Well, they need to come to us. I know. You're right. That's why I got into cooking and inviting people over. Definitely. Definitely key. Just get your life over here on

8:07the west side and then you don't have to get in that mess. But yes, it's hard. And you know what I find interesting? In New York, there's really bad traffic. And people are like, well, L.A. can't be worse. I'm like, unfortunately, I can. But also, sometimes you get stuck in New York like one time I remember my parents were visiting in New York and we were trying to go see a play and we couldn't get off the upper west side to get to the play. And we missed it. Oh my god. But couldn't you just park your car and take a subway or I don't know? I mean, maybe, but we were in a weird like where we were. There wasn't some like, and I think I had my parents. I was less agile. Like, let's just go. You know what I'm saying? If it had just been me, I would have been like, let's do it. I mean, the upside to New York is like, if there's terrible traffic, you know, they have great public transportation. Good point. Here they have one thing. No, they do. They have a new train. They do, but it goes to like one place. I mean, it's not practical, right? Listen, my kids have taken that train. Really? Yeah, it goes to some kid places. Yes. That's cute. They love it. One cliche that is true is that the weather's awesome, right? Yes. I mean, of course

9:07that we have some moments of bad weather, but the weather is pretty great. I mean, the weather is incredible and I do love it. I would say, I think there's a cliche. It's not exactly L.A., but it's an actress-based cliche. We talked about this a little bit earlier when we when we did go shopping, but we were comparing notes and really, neither of us shop very much. I remember in time where every interview I did, they would say, either, let's go shopping or where do you shop? It seemed to be what they thought we did with the majority of our time. I was like, no. I mean, we're so used to fittings. I don't want to go try and close in a place for no reason. I don't really like shopping. Me neither. I mean, occasionally, but yeah, I don't know. I don't either. I like to have my places that I might go and pop my head in that are small, like what we went today, the market, where it's like the owners there. It's really personal. I love that, but I don't want to go to a big store. I get very overwhelmed really quickly. I think that's a big misconception about actresses in general. Because we're kind of some like, we're trying to get a job or we're

10:10optioning a book or we're, you know, working on our next thing. Yeah, it's not like we're just running around shopping all the time. No, like that's a crazy life. Like, how? Why? I don't even know why. Maybe it's because you were in an iconic TV show where you had so many fabulous outfits. I guess. I mean, because technically, how do you get those outfits, right? You would theoretically have to shop, but then also, I mean, I would think Charlotte would be online by saying, no, it's so great when you buy something online and it just comes to your house. I mean, right. I love it. Look, what do we do before that? Gosh, except I do remember, and I wonder if you have any memories. It just came to me. Fred's seagull. I know that popped in my mind when you start shopping. That used to be the spot. That and Barney's. Yeah, so I just, because I know one of them is like, exists, right? Both of them being gone. It's crazy. When I drive by Barney's and Beverly Hills, I'm like, what the? What? It's messed up that it's not there. That was like the pinnacle. I remember when I first moved to LA and I was like, this little small person with like, really no money. I'd be like, Barney's is like the holy grail of clothes. Like, I thought like I couldn't afford anything, but I aspired to buy something there. I wanted to walk around. You didn't even have to buy

11:14anything, which is the vibe. And Fred's seagull also. I have a good 90's story of Fred's seagull. What? I saw a Lannis Morris at that one time. It was so exciting. I was with my girl for Melanie. She saw you. So that's like, she was very, it was like the height of a Lannis time and she was with this beautiful man. And I had a golden retriever puppy. And the beautiful man wanted to say hi to the golden retriever puppy. We were eating at that little cafe there at the center of Monica one. And Lannis hung back in a way that made me wonder what was happening. Like, who wouldn't want to pet this beautiful puppy? I was like, oh my, it's a Lannis. And then I was like, try to breathe, try to breathe, try to breathe because I love her so much, so much. I just had that flashback. But yeah, Fred's seagull was like the spot. And Barney's was the whole thing is making a documentary about Barney's. No way. And he's gonna, I'm sure we would love to interview. And I think he's doing trying to do like a TV show about the family town to see a Barney's. Amazing. Yeah. I have a lot of Barney's stories. I mean, we filmed in Barney's.

12:16No, I love you just to give him a shot. We filmed in Barney's and then also started just going one time when shopping on a lunch break when we were filming near there. It didn't, it was kind of a mess our security guards had to get us out. It was literally a lunch time at Barney's and the two of us thought we could go to the shoe department. Oh my god, everyone in Barney's is like, it was very bizarre. And we had tried to allude our security guys because we just wanted some us time. Yeah, yeah. One of them Q had followed us and was hiding. That's cute. He's got his job, right? We needed him. Yeah. Thank you, thank you. It was really sweet. And then we had a time where we for some reason, I can't remember if it was the movie. They did windows and each character got a designer and each window was a fairy tale for our character. And mine was Provenza Schoolers. Isn't that so amazing? And then we went to the party for that. And then my final Barney's story is that when Barney's had already sadly closed and we started and just like that, we had our opening party there. It was so strange.

13:20It's happening in that building now. You can rent it for events. But I think someone told me they're going to turn it into apartments, which could be really cool to live in Barney's. Wow, wow, wow. Because you guys shot a lot of scenes in Barney's, right? We went to Barney's pretty frequently. One time, this was really fun too. This is a fun meme. One time Charlotte is volunteering at this place for people who are blind. And so she goes to Barney's with the Burberry iPad John and tries to see what it would be like to be blind. So there's a funny little picture of me in the shoot apartment with my eyes covered. And do you remember the Sandy Bullock movie Bird Box? Yes. Where people, you have to blindfold so that they can't get you. And they put funny comparison memes. It was really adorable. Oh my god. Anyway, that's my random reference. Yes. It's the perfect time to get that Hyundai car or SUV you've been wanting. Because the Hyundai Getaway sales event is happening right now. Enjoy great deals across Hyundai's entire

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15:28Audition stories. Horror story. Do you remember this is before they had whatever GPS, right? I don't know if you had this. But when the Thomas guy. Yes, the Thomas guy. Yes. You'd be auditioning in L.A. and you'd have like because I didn't really know the city that well. So you have this book and it's like page 397 41 now they're like go to five eight six nine you're driving. You're trying to like look at the pages like. I know. And then some of my pages would fall out because they were like the ones that we went to a lot. And so I'd be like where's the page? Go on the other floor. We did you have this like where you brought different outfits in your car because maybe one roll you went up for was like the sweet innocent girl. Another one was like the slutty. Yeah. Whatever. And then you're like oh the sophisticated business woman. So I have like five outfits in my car. And it's like changed while I was driving. It's fairly really unsafe. But I was just like I wasn't like a good place at all of the audition places. It's like it could take you like 45 minutes. Yeah, you had to like you never knew. Oh my god. Can you believe everything we went through it now? Everyone's health tapes. So you used to use the Thomas guy. I mean how would we

16:31have lived? I don't know. Now it's so easy. You're just like address band like someone tells you what to do. I think it's like that Hyundai has that nice map. I mean I really dig that. I need a kind of a large map. You know it's not going to be hard to look at because you know the eyesight isn't what it used to be. So I'm excited. I'm excited about that nice big screen in the Hyundai. I'm digging it. I know right? Yeah. Okay. Horror story or just the Thomas guide. Horror story about auditioning. I mean what about you? Do you have one? I mean I have to dredge to come up with one. I mean gosh I'm sure I have so many. I do remember this one time just floated through my head. Remember how like you would go and then they'd call you back and then call you back and they'd call you back and then sometimes you wouldn't get it. One time there was some movie it was horrible. Some horrible film. I came in and remember the name and I really wanted it and I got really close. It was between me and one other girl and in the end I didn't get it. The other girl got it and I was like why? Why? And they said she was wearing red lipstick. What? That makes no sense.

17:38I know. Yeah. It was good. Like you could just wear red lipstick. I was like they could have asked me to wear red lipstick. It was one of those moments where you really go like oh okay it's all ridiculous. Yeah. Everything about this is ridiculous. Yeah that is ridiculous. It helped me see that. I think that's why I still remember it. Wow. Like that was like a valid a valid reason. Like a valid. I mean I feel like I would go on in auditions and sometimes you could tell like oh these people really like me like I have a good chance and then I there's occasionally go on auditions you're like these people really hate me. Yeah. Do you remember how they would interrupt you sometimes in the middle of a scene and be like thank you. Oh I mean I can't even believe that we lived through it all. I mean yeah you're right now everyone just puts like self tape. Right. And I know people complain a lot about it but at least no one's going to be like mean to you. But I miss like connecting with people in person. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Well I feel like creatively when you could connect it was amazing. That was amazing. Right. Because then you knew oh okay this is dorky but like what was your so did you just get offered the part and sex in the city or did you have to audition for it or like what did you

18:38both kind of so I knew Darren star. Okay. I created the show because I've been on Melrose. Right. And he was I knew he had made a deal at HBO and we were like whoa what's that going to be like because they really didn't have original programming so much. They just had Larry Sanders which is a great show which I was a guest star on. It was amazing. But I couldn't picture Darren show there. I was kind of like what's he going to do. And they said oh he's going to do this thing based on this book by Ken Spuschnell and I read it and I oh he sent it to me. Yeah. He sent it to me with the letter that said will you read the part of Kerry because they had wanted Sarah but then she got in cold feet. She was a nervous about committing to television. And so they were trying to come up with a backup and but Kerry in the original script was a little bit like more than she ended up being under with Sarah Jessica's touch. So she was swearing and smoking and kind of really brash and I just didn't think I could possibly play her. So I was like Darren I this is a mistake. I need to be this other girl. You told her I need to

19:40be Charlotte. Yeah I told Darren yeah. And he was like are you sure because the way they described Kerry in the script was that she had the body of Heather Locklear and the brain of Dorothy Parker. Oh that's cool. And I was like I'm neither of those things. I didn't feel like I could be that at the time. So but I'm glad because I did really relate to Charlotte. So then did you have to audition for her? So then he said no no no. Oh everybody wanted those parts. I'm sure you were on some film or you would have also been in the mix. I feel like every woman in New York in LA was trying to get it. Yes. Because it was so unique. Yeah. And so great because at that point there wasn't a lot filming in New York. So the idea of filming in New York about like something around women. That's amazing. Unheard of right. So I had to test. Okay. Do you remember when I did you have to test with other people? Like you saw other people. Other people but Willie Garcin. You know other people for other parts right. But not like another actress for your part. I think there might have been one other actress who I kind of knew who I was like oh no.

20:47It was saying like people that you would see over and over again. Did you have that? Yes. And she's a very nice person. She's listening. She's very nice person. But I was like oh no please don't get it. And we were there. So there was like men and women you know for big and then Willie was there. He was the only person I think for Stanford. And what about like where other people like was Miranda and Samantha? I think there were Samantha Samantha's and Miranda's but I think they'd already offered it to Kim and I think Kim had also turned it down. And I think they were really torn about how funny those two parts should be. So there was a comedian there I think where I was like whoa that's I wasn't thinking that. And then obviously they went more actuary. Right. Right. They just couldn't they didn't exactly know what they were doing but was Cynthia Nixon there? No, Cynthia was in New York. She had already read. She read pretty early and she really wanted it but they took forever to decide on any of us except for Kim and Sarah that they'd offered it to right. But then Kim kept turning them down. Sarah got cold feet for a while then

21:49kind of got back you know thing. I know how to Kim turn around like what happened with like she just decided last minute. Darren talked her into it. I don't know how exactly. I don't know how exactly. I just know that both of them they were more well known than Cynthia and I. So he was known in the Broadway world. I had really only ever done Melrose, right? So they were both more more well known. I think back then you had to choose between film and TV. You know it wasn't like how it's not. Yeah. Yeah. Now that's gone altogether. But I think back then like once you did TV even if it was HBO you were thought of differently. You know what I'm saying? I think that was some of the pressure for both of them. But I'm not sure. It's like everyone's trying to get into TV. Absolutely. Well that's because films I mean they don't make it making enough. I know it's so sad because I love film obviously. Okay. Thanks for telling that story. It was really interesting. Was it okay? Yeah. Okay. When you got it what did you do? Like what were you? Well I was super nervous because they took forever to tell me like you know you would I don't know if you ever did

22:50this in the olden days when you would audition for something that was like a big deal. A big network they had like a date that they had to tell you by. Yeah. They waited till like midway through the day of the final date. Wow. I mean it was so stressful. Wow. And I had gone to a movie to try to get through the day. And I remember it was in Santa Monica at the AMC and I was walking through that parking lot. Yeah. And I had my cranky big cell phone back then you know when I called my manager I was like wait. I heard from them. And he was like yes you got it and I was like oh thank god Brett was just like relieved. She didn't say like I had built up so much angst at that point that I wasn't even happy. I don't think I don't think I was happy until we went to New York. And then I was it was like oh world opened up you know which was really fun. I know it was exciting. And also it's just so exciting to be able to be in both worlds. That's great. You know. Also I wouldn't it okay this is just me interviewing you but I would love to be like dressed by Patricia Field. Right. Incredible. Incredible. I mean you imagine just like okay make me cool and then she

23:52just does right. Well it wasn't exactly like that because I was playing Charlotte right. Okay so you weren't supposed to be I mean you weren't sure. Well yes cool but Charlotte right and in my mind I had an image of what I thought she should be and I went to the upper east side and did a lot of research. Yeah. But Pat didn't necessarily agree with me. Okay and what were you thinking and what was it? I was thinking like what I saw on the upper east side. Yeah. Which is like classic Ralph Lauren long straight brown hair. Okay. You know like constrained. Yeah yeah. But that's not really how Pat thinks as we all know. So what did she think? She wow I mean in the beginning she tried to dress me in all kind of crazy things and I was like no and then she was stressed. And then I remember one time Darren took me out to dinner and whenever Darren called you to go out to dinner you knew that you were in some trouble. Okay. So you were just waiting you're just gossiping and talking until he told you what you were in trouble for. So we were walking

24:52home. We both lived on Central Park West at the time. We were walking home and I was like Darren what is it? You know we're walking home. And he said well I just want you to trust Pat because she knows better than you do. In other words your taste is bad so like listen. Right definitely but at that point it wasn't even my taste. I just wanted it. I wanted her to be identifiable as an upper east side but Pat was so downtown. Yeah yeah. I think her she found that boring. Yeah. Right. Okay. So like and and I'm not saying that she was wrong because there is an episode where Charlotte goes back and has brunch with her college friends. Yeah. And she realized she's she's that's when you try to be like more like Samantha and she tries to be more like you. Yeah yeah yeah. And I realized I'm the Samantha of my college friends and I'm wearing a little tank top with a sweater tied. Yeah. In my mind. Yeah. That's how I thought Charlotte should dress the whole time. Okay. But Pat was way better. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

25:54Like Pat would twist things ironically even for Charlotte. She's brilliant. She's brilliant. Yeah. But it wasn't so easy as like make me cool. Do you know what I mean? I grew up in suburbia and my family we didn't think a lot about clothes like we went to like Marshalls. You know what I mean? So when I started acting I started going to like these fancy stores and I was like what is this? Yeah. Oh I felt that way. I looked a little bit like a Mormon child. Wow. I looked like a frumpy preppy Southern child. I mean like I wore wide whale corduroyes with like ducks embroidered on them. That sounds cute. I don't know. I don't know if it's cute or not. Thank you. Now I want to see a picture of that. It's interesting that we get to be different people. Yeah it is. Because if I didn't have help I think I would have looked really bad. Me too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. My hair makeup too was really questionable. I mean weren't all of us without like being an actress and having like professional people be like don't do that. Do that. You know I would definitely always super helpful to have the pose. We need the pros for sure. All right. Thank you Heather. Thank you. And I want to say thank

26:58you to Hyundai for a really fun day. Thank you for this day. It was great. I mean what a fun day and you're a joy. Thanks for inviting me. You're amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go eat some more pie. Okay great. Okay great. The Hyundai Getaway sales event is going on now. Getaway with a deal so right it almost feels wrong. Right now you can get great deals on Hyundai's most popular models including their adventure seeking SUVs like the Hyundai Santa Fe or Santa Fe Hybrid, the Tucson or Tucson Hybrid, the bold and stylish Elantra loaded with the latest tech or go all electric with the Ionic 5 or Ionic 9. So get down to your local Hyundai dealer and get away with the deal you'll love during the Hyundai Getaway sales event. Visit HyundaiUSA.com or call 5 6 2 3 1 4 4 6 0 3 for more details. This is an iHeart podcast.

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