Amanda Frances is Such a Moment!

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2:02Bombas, comfort worth calling for Go to bombas.com slash audio And use code audio for 20% off your first purchase That's B-O-M-B-A-S dot com and use code audio Hey guys and welcome back to another episode of casual chaos This week I have a new member joining me Beverly Hills Housewives, Amanda Frances Welcome to casual chaos Thank you, thank you for having me So you just joined season 15 At the real housewives of Beverly Hills You actually moved into Kyle Richards' old house Is that kind of what brought Bravo's attention to you? I think that was one of the connections It was that and there was someone in an entertainment attorney Who was in my courses, who loved my work Some of those things together connected some dots Okay, and was this something that you ever envisioned for yourself? I always thought I would do reality television I always saw myself on TV more I didn't necessarily see housewives Yeah Did you ever feel any pressure before filming?

3:02What do you mean, what kind of pressure? Just like expectations, not really feeling like you could be yourself Kind of just walking into this room of all these women Especially because a lot of them have been doing it for quite some time I felt very much like I was navigating a whole new world It's not like anything you've ever done before Anything anyone's ever done before It's such a unique situation And there's definitely like a fish out of water Like, okay, like I'm a high achiever Yeah I like to accomplish things I like to do things well It was hard to know like what the standard was for doing it well Like what was the bar I was trying to meet Like what were the criteria like what makes a good housewife or a good like cast member Friend of these people like it was Yeah, some days I was odd to know am I doing an okay job at this? Yeah, you know And I feel like that's totally understandable When you're doing it for a long time, it almost feels like second nature Because then you feel comfortable with the cameras It's also so different

4:03You are really opening up your life to the world And that's when the viewers like really see your vulnerability Because that's when they connect with you Right So I liked I liked having, I don't mind having cameras around me I was fine with everyone being in my home Being around my family I never felt uncomfortable having a vulnerable moment on camera A vulnerability doesn't bother me It was very specific to like if you're walking into a situation And you feel like it's hostile You feel like people don't actually want to get to know you You feel like you're being set up almost in an odd way That's when it was super uncomfortable Yeah, I'm all definitely get into that Did you feel like anyone off the bat already was mistreating you Or almost didn't accept you From the beginning beginning? No Beginning beginning I felt like there was Yeah, at the very beginning I felt like I was just trying to get to know everyone Yeah You built an empire for yourself with life coaching You believe in manifesting And also you have multiple Businesses where you are doing life coaching and etc

5:07Digital courses, personal development Yes So with that, did you feel like the women were judging you based off of you describing what empire you built for yourself? I feel like they didn't, some of them didn't ever give it a chance Because think about it, most people are into personal development to some degree Most people understand manifestation to some degree Most people have had a coacher there but it's not that out there It's not that woo-woo Especially the way I teach it, it's very grounded I mean, I've had a life coach before I believe in manifesting Absolutely Because we're all in a fussing all the time Under my pillow for sure I love little notes in your pillow Anything to set an intention Anything to be clear on what you want Anything to know what you're working toward is what we all need I don't think anything I teach is really that so far out there I think they made assumptions about what it means to teach on manifestation Especially related to money and I think they kind of ran with that With that actually asking me any questions or like looking at my actual work So then did you feel like you constantly had to prove yourself to them?

6:10No, and the thing is I didn't feel like I had to prove anything Because I didn't even know that they were questioning me until like way later There was a lot of the show Well, no, it's while we were still filming But when we get further into the season You'll see me like find out that they've all been kind of speculating and talking and assuming And like they could have just asked me Yeah, yeah, no for sure But that's also how reality TV works It's like a build up, you kind of, it builds And unfortunately it's rough But then when you're saying how you, when you walk into hostile situations You can kind of feel If they've been talking about you, if something's been happening Right, it's odd, sometimes it's the feeling of like yeah Like someone's waiting for the moment to say something But then what's really fun, what I really enjoy and viewers will I think they'll get to see this happen Is as we get further into the season and I see what they are saying about me

7:12And I just like, I like bring it up, talk about it Poke holes and how crazy it is Like the whole thing deflates so quickly Because like there's nothing there Yeah And then it's almost like you see people like backtracking or being like Oh, we're okay, right? And it's like we're okay, you just spent all this time going around Trying to drum up some kind of nonsense about me, it's very odd Texting privacy policy in terms of conditions posted at TextingTurbs.us Texting roles you for occurring on a media text marketing That's just message data is my apply or play Stopped out, is it ISSA online for details? Tired of the nine to five grind Looking for something different that's flexible, fulfilling and pays well? How do you like to get paid to work out? And now you can, with ISSA, the global leader in personal fitness certification There's a huge demand for certified personal trainers right now And once you get ISSA certified, they guarantee you'll get a job Trainers can make as much as $100 an hour Yes, I said $100 an hour And with ISSA, you can be certified in as little as six weeks You do everything at your own pace and 100% online

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9:14Orderlymeds.com was built to be different Here you connect with real doctors Who take the time to understand your goals Review your eligibility And guide you through a plan that's right for you Orderlymeds provides access to proven GLP1 medications Like semaglutide and terzepetide Including both name brand options And personalized compound versions when appropriate So you have choices back by clinical oversight Not guess where It's a simpler, more supportive telehealth experience Design around people who want clarity Care and confidence in their weight loss journey And your medication is delivered directly to your home in discrete packaging So your experience stays private from start to finish Do your research, ask the right questions Then visit orderlymeds.com slash podcast for an exclusive offer Again, that's orderlymeds.com slash podcast Individual results may vary not medical advice eligibility required See site for details This is Bowen Yang from Loss Culture Research with Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang We all know the feeling when life gets really busy Taking care of yourself can feel impossible

10:17That's why premiere protein shakes are my go too They have 30 grams of protein, 160 calories, no added sugar And they taste amazing So they're a healthy choice you'll actually want to make It's not just for fitness, it's for getting after life Premiere protein powers me to say yes to more Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com That's P-R-E-M-I-E-R Protein.com How has it been watching the episodes back and seeing what the ladies have said about your career? Right now I don't watch them You haven't watched I see clips I see cards Listen, my mom used to be just like you She didn't watch Nothing Really? So how did she handle the reunion then? There were maybe some things that she could have handled better Yes Because she would, you know, when you're sitting at the reunion I don't know if you guys have filmed it or not yet No, it's in a couple weeks

11:17But Andy will like our production will show you flashbacks Of a certain scene that they're talking about But obviously like there's many pieces to the puzzle But he just shows you something Like one little clip Like to be a jogger memory My mom would just watch those And maybe some things that she saw on social media Real Haasos in New Jersey was never playing in our home I feel like it really is crucial And now To watch Yeah, like you think I need to watch Yeah, okay And now I just benched it Because I knew you were coming Okay And I wanted to watch it So you're more up to date than me I feel like I am Okay But I just think it's really important Because not only to see what the women or your cosmates are saying about you It's helpful even to just see it for yourself Because even now I'm on next-gen and my CM Bravo When I look at myself on next-gen I look at that and I'm like, okay

12:17I don't love the way that that was played out I wish I maybe would have handled this better or said this better But do you have the feeling of average? I love any opportunity for reflection Yeah But do you feel like there's You feel like there's opportunity for growth there? 100% Yeah But I also, you know Even in a hostile environment that is edited Yeah That's a difficult part But the problem is that I, like what I have realized over the years Is that whatever you say You did say it Totally But maybe they use the first part of your sentence And not the second part of your sentence That validated the first part Totally, which is hard Yes So then you feel like, you know, maybe your point was like misconstrued in a way Totally It's Like if they would have had more of the conversation It would have made a little bit more sense a lot of da Um, yeah, but you know what? It's interesting because I'm in the most trouble for, you know, something I supposedly said But when I look at that scene, you know, I'm talking about the dinner at Kathie's

13:19Yeah When I look at that scene, I'm like, that was so benign That was so part of a big conversation You know, we see, like, set an agree with me We say me, me and Jennifer are talking about it a little I, Jennifer tells me something that Doree has said about her ex And I'm like, well, you know, if it's true, it is not at all me going after her At all And I think that was a lot of the things you were in agree A lot of the woman did agree with you, but even when you, the whole thing with you and Kyle You didn't say much, you really just agreed with her Well, I had never heard Kyle said it That's the first time I heard that perspective, she said it to me and I was like, yeah, you know There's something to that Then I kind of carried it with me, it was in my mind, and then people are asking me about it And I was like, well, you know, Kyle said a lot of da And it was like, the idea that I was trying to put Kyle Make Kyle and Doree fight or whatever that was, it's like, no! Like, you asked me what happened, and I told you I went to Kyle, she said this I went to Kathy's, they asked me this Like, I thought I was just telling it chronologically Like, I was just trying to let people know what happened

14:20But they don't want that They don't want the truth of it, they want you to own the most salacious part of it Also, when it comes to joining a franchise where a lot of these women have been together for a long time It's all about loyalty So because Kyle and Doree have known each other for such a long time Even though they have been having some issues with like the loyalty and trustworth The aspect of their relationship between the PK and Mo and Kyle and Doree stuff They'll still hold their loyalty that they've known each other for so long And their relationship is so deep But coming in as a new cast member What else are you supposed to do? You're supposed to question Kyle If you go to someone's dinner party and they ask you about every single woman that you literally just met two weeks before All you can say is what you've been told so far What you've seen, I've observed so far There was nothing else to say So I didn't have some big dramatic, fully formed thing It was just like conversational

15:21Kyle said this, I can see that Yeah, she probably shouldn't It was very nice Yes, it was very menace school, I agree with you on that So you have a book about money and manifestation And call yourself the money queen I don't like when people say I call myself the money queen But kind of bothers me No one walks into a dinner party, no one walks into their child's school And says hello, I am the money queen For years, my audience called me the money manifestation queen And sometime around COVID it got shortened And I absolutely ran with it But it wasn't like a self-proclaimed thing For what it's worth Your viewers Because no one goes around calling themselves out, that's crazy No, yeah Just for the record I don't hate it at all, it's like a branding thing I don't hate it at all, it's a good quick summary But you go what I'm saying Yes, no I mean, I also think it's a compliment If the people that are supporting you

16:21If the people who've read my book, been in my course, who's referring to me that way And they do, you're correct, it's a compliment So then, are you defending yourself kind of right now on that Because do you feel like the women took that? Because all these articles have said the self-proclaimed money queen And no one goes around calling themselves that So do you feel like the women kind of took that out of context Even when it was little things Or that they kind of played this out multiple times From what I've watched so far It would be like you guys were going on a hike when you guys were in Was that Sardona? Sardona Yes And you're like, oh, I'm bringing my Chanel And set and commented Because you basically commented on a designer bag that you had Or the things that you brought No, I can explain that one so easily So, to me, it was interesting that the joke didn't hit Because in my friend groups and my social circles That, like, juxtaposition of I have sunscreen in my Chanel Is, like, funny Yeah It's, like, cute and funny

17:21Like, I'm going on a hike, but I'm bringing my Chanel because I'm me Like, to me, that was me just being me Yeah And, like, it didn't land I don't know if it didn't land with these women Because it's not their humor Or if they were, like, you know, looking for the one-upy kind of moments Well, and I think that was kind of what they described And how they were describing it throughout these episodes so far That they always felt like you were trying to one-up them But that's so silly, listen To just shoot it straight I thought it was a show about rich women with cool shit So, I thought we were supposed to be rich women with cool shit I thought we were supposed to be excited about our cool shit So, that's one Let's, like, put that there Isn't that what the show is for? So, let's put that Beverly Hills When you compare Beverly Hills to the rest of the Real Housewives franchise We're so so we're a Chanel or whatever Yes, totally And I actually do really enjoy a Chanel Is elevated And a lot of the women are Very wealthy on Beverly Hills And obviously could afford probably way more than any of the other franchises Got it

18:21But it is cool to watch It's fascinating to see the Homes in Bel Air and Rachel Zo Who's been an amazing fashion designer and icon Like Jennifer Tilly, Kathy, she's a Hilton Like, it is cool to watch these women Totally So, if that, like, if that affluence is meant to be like a through line of the show I kind of thought that's part of what we were just talking about, right? So, there's that So, that's one side And then, too, what I think people kind of got wrong and don't see Is I have a real through line of like gratitude through my life Like, I am celebrating my purchases I am celebrating how much I've been able to spend I am celebrating a self-made person all the time You know what I mean? So proud of it So proud of it Like, I think New Money is one of the best compliments you can give me Would you rather be like New Money or Old Broke? Like, I want to be New Money all day long I want everyone who currently does not have money to become New Money So that doesn't offend me at all Like, I'm so thankful Yeah But I think we're missing that there was real gratitude There was also me looking for commonalities, ways to connect with these people

19:23So, my humor was missed I mean, and I thought that's kind of what the show was about I mean, and that, I feel like that kind of says a lot And people are really going to understand you more by that comment Because it wasn't that you were trying to want up these women You were genuinely trying to find a common ground with all of them Right, isn't Chanel our common ground? Wouldn't you think on real houses of Beverly Hills, Chanel is our common ground? Yeah Or Hermaz, one or the other? One or the other Right Hermaz was a big gift you guys always give Texting privacy policy in terms of conditions posted in TextingTerms.us Texting rules you for occurring on a media text marketing message Just message data is my apply Stopped out is an ISSA online for details Tired of the 9-5 grind Looking for something different that's flexible, fulfilling, and pays well? How do you like to get paid to work out? Now you can, with ISSA, the global leader in personal fitness certification There's a huge demand for certified personal trainers right now And once you get ISSA certified, they guarantee you'll get a job Trainers can make as much as 100 million dollars

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23:32Do you feel like because you are a self-made woman That end your career that you have built for yourself is different from the other woman I mean, I don't know because we have to think that Rachel built a lot of what she has She did Boaz has had a long career But so many of the women are smart Kathy is really smart with how she does a lot of things Kyle is smart, a lot of these women find really interesting fun ways to make money Like through the show, not directly on the show, but how their leverage the show With their husband or ex-husband So a lot of them had husbands in the mix through the growing process and I did not Yes I made it on my own Like I was a multi-millionaire before I met Eddie, you know what I mean? And I'm the breadwinner and like we have no qualms with that That's like, you know, he thinks it's hot, I think it's great Like no one has any issues I think that's their problem with me, I think they have a hard time wrapping their heads around it

24:35And I think when people have their hard time wrapping their heads around something They just go into questioning and skepticism Instead of like asking questions Yeah, you know And you also stated on the show that you did not come from much when you were growing up Right So I think it's very understandable for you to be proud of everything that you have Absolutely And if you want to show off what you have a little bit and it wasn't landing with these women I really don't think it's the worst thing in the world I think for season There's always a newbie, you're always the target And that will grow And you will evolve from that Maybe a lot of the women didn't understand what you were saying this season But hopefully going forward They'll understand where you are coming from And why you are so proud But I felt like they were almost like I get it And not maybe really listening to you and understanding what you've got

25:38Well, if you come from the lens That women should be proud of themselves and celebrate themselves And be in gratitude for what they created If that's like your lens, your worldview, like it is mine You would never be offended by a one-up or whatever You wouldn't ever view it that way Yeah You know Did you see when people were calling you on social media a fraud Like how did that affect you? I've seen it a little bit Honestly, I feel like I already had a pretty thick skin I remember what people say about me online This has made me feel like Like with a bull Like the way I have just been able to anchor myself into my work And what I actually do It kind of did a lot of good things It made me stronger, it made me tougher It made me feel like you can't f**k me But it also let this fire under my eyes I'm going to show you exactly what I do You're going to make fun of me Like let me show you what a money queen does Watch me monetize every single part of this

26:38Okay, great So like I just didn't affect your business at all Oh, I mean only positively Oh, great Because my clients, my tried and true clients Tens of thousands of happy clients and students over the years They're still happy They've been happy all along Right, so they're not deciding what they think about me by a bravo content creator Like that's not influencing them So we've had a lot of new people who are just curious Saw you on bravo, want to see what you're about We love those people We're like come, you know, enroll in a pay Whatever you feel to offer We have like low cost stuff, pay what you feel, stuff free stuff So we're like welcoming all these bravo people into all of this stuff And that makes us really happy, right? And we have a lot of new book readers So no, there's no way trolls could affect my business negatively Because again, happy customers aren't going to trolls to validate with already know You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I totally understand that Now that you have filmed a full season of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Do you regret joining the cast? No I don't really believe in regrets

27:39So you're happy I wouldn't say I'm happy Peace is strong word That was a tough experience I mean, you know, it's not like anything else It's really hard to describe what it even is It is tough I wouldn't say it made me happy But again, I think I've taken a lot of strength from it I think it has just reminded me like who I'm here to be And what I want to do with my life Like, I don't think I'm going to walk away with any negatives Do you, would you go back for another season? That is undecided Undecided I mean, listen, I also, if it makes you happy Clearly, you are so mean That your show make you happy Next Gen NYC It makes you happy Yes, you have fun I do Okay Because I feel like Real Housewives versus like Next Gen NYC It's two completely different ball games Okay I feel like Housewives All of these women

28:40Like from all the franchises Come for each other's necks And it's dirty Whether it's about their husbands Whether it's about the rumor about this one cheating This one having multiple lawsuits on their businesses This that like they go So they try to dig up on me and that thing's there They go for the trailer Right On Next Gen, there's not much to dig up about us in our 20s Yeah Unless you want to say something about our parents Right, in your kind of like whatever Yeah, like whatever This has happened This is our life There's nothing really to be ashamed of Nothing you do about it But that's why it's fun still on Next Gen No, and you got to understand I'm not assuming there will be a time where it's maybe not fun And then you won't do it anymore Right, yeah Well, that's also very confusing Because everything in my All of my success has come thus far From doing what I wanted to do And putting my whole heart into it You know what I mean And believing in myself

29:40And what I could create through it So like making money Doing what you love is like a literally my life And I'm an environment of very highly supportive women Like women supporting women is literally The personal development world That's all I've been around for a very long time So I really did not fathom to what degree People who you're getting to know Or supposed to be your new friends Would want to make you look bad Like I really did not grasp it Yeah, it's kind of like the name of the game a little bit It just certainly Yeah, yeah But I just I believe if If you are finding this to not make you happy And to not lift you up When you really don't need it Don't need it Don't really need it Think about it You know always think about it Because I mean you know this You're all about mental health Mental health, manifesting Being positive, growing

30:40Within yourself I mean I don't think you would ever Send yourself into a bad direction The only thing about doing another season Is almost like once you see how it works Once you know a little bit more about it It's like I could probably have a good Whatever, better season I think I would know a little bit more Like I don't know how it works Because it's not like anything else I agree with you When you feel like maybe The way you were perceived Wasn't fully correct Obviously there's going to be Parts inside of you that want to come back For the next season And basically Write the wrongs or whatever Yes, prove the people wrong It's not even that It's more that I like would just want to go in And do like It's like you have clear eyes Your head's on more straight You just know what you're stepping into And I could just see myself doing it better And then again, what constitutes winning in this environment? You know what I mean? I got it

31:40Well, thank you so much for coming on Thank you for having me Thank you for having me And I can't wait to watch the reunion and see the rest of the season Oh my goodness Stand your ground at the reunion I think a lot of these Easier Yes, I think a lot of these women Were misjudging the way that you were explaining What you do and your business And what you have achieved And probably thought of it as one uping and bragging But I think it's very understandable For you to say I'm proud of what I built And this is why I'm so passionate about it And I just wanted all of you to understand Or even any single person sat in front of me And said like, hey, that's on the one uping Even that, I could have been like Oh my god, really? I'm just proud of myself Yes Like that's so much could be corrected so easily Yeah And they never really gave you the chance to do it At least thus far I mean watch the whole season Every single thing that people have issues with

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