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Alternative for Germany won an even larger share of the vote than expected in yesterday’s state election. What does the far-right nationalist party’s success mean for Germany and Europe? The climate case for limiting vapour trails from aeroplanes. And why South Korean youths are turning to Buddhism.
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- Tom Nuttall, Berlin bureau chief
- Oliver Morton, planetary affairs editor
- Soobin Kim, Korea writer
- Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”
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- AfD, Alternative for Germany, Alternative für Deutschland
- contrails, aviation, climate science
- South Korea, Buddhism
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thing to worry about. Powered by AT&T Business, built to work. Get AT&T Business at business. AT&T.com. The Economist. Hello and welcome to the Intelligence from the Economist. I'm Rosie Blur. Today on the show, the climate case for cutting airplane condensation trails, and why young Koreans are embracing Buddhism. First up though. Overnight a shocking election result. The alternative for Germany party, the AFD, won a thumping victory in the East German state of Saxony and Halt. It's a party so extreme
that even some other populist right organisations in Europe refuse to work with it. Last week on the show, our Berlin bureau chief Tom Nattel spoke about the prospect of a right-wing nationalist leader running a German state for the first time since the Second World War. Now the AFD has come a big step closer. I was in the Alters Chiauta in Magdeburg, the capital of the state of Saxony and Halt last night where the AFD held its election night party. When we got the first exit polls at 6 p.m. projecting that the AFD had won 44% of a vote which was more than any opinion poll had projected. As you can imagine the move was ecstatic. You had all of these AFD grandlies on stage hugging each other.
Leading the crowd in lusty renditions of German songs and the national anthem. They were all expecting to come first in this election, but I don't think anybody was expecting the score was going to be quite that high. 44% is a staggering or shocking headline figure, depending on your view, talk me through the details of that. For a long time the opinion polls had suggested that the AFD was going to win very big in section the Antelth which is a state in the east of Germany relatively small, relatively poor. So kind of fertile ground for the AFD is governed by the central right Christian Democrats, that's the party of the Chancellor of Freging Mertz. All of the speculation before the vote was whether it was going to be possible for the CDU to assemble some very complicated, incoherent coalition to keep the AFD out of power. And the electoral result is such that this morning that just doesn't feel like a plausible
possibility. The AFD has won such a big share of the vote. It hasn't won a majority, but it has come quite close to it, that it obviously is going to have the mandate now to try to form a government. And I think a lot of people thought that that was not where we were going to be this morning. And how did other parties do? Well, the big story is the absolute collapse of the Christian Democratic Union, the Conservative Party that has been running the state for a very long time. Their vote is more or less halved to 17%. This is absolutely devastating. I think one reason for that is that there was some last-minute tactical voting for people who wanted to keep the AFD out of power. Some of them will have shifted to parties like the Greens to get them over the 5% threshold. So that depressed the CDU score. But there's no sugarcoating it. There's a bunch of people who were immediately called for the resignation of Sven Schuitzer, the CDU Premier of Saxony Antel. This is very bad news for Stryg Mertz, the Chancellor. The party may well lose one of its Minister presidents here. We've got two more state
elections in a couple of weeks' time, all in all the party that had hoped somehow that it might be able to keep the AFD out and cling on. This morning is Chasen's licking his wounds. I actually moved from the AFD party to the CDU party last night and talk about a buzz kill. It was like turning up at a wake. One age to Sven Schuitzer told me that the result was like a punch in the stomach. So this is a really rough night for the CDU. The AFD hasn't quite got a majority. So what happens now? Is there a way for other parties to block it? Perhaps the most important development in a way last night was the fact that a party called the Buntenissar-Vadenknecht, which is a kind of populist left outfit, pro-Russian anti-elite, they defied expectations and just managed to creep into Parliament with five of the 83 seats in the Saxony Unhelp Parliament. And what's important about this is that unlike every other party,
the BSW has not ruled out working with the AFD and last night their lead candidate said that she could envisage working on specific projects with the party. This might be things like pushing for easing on sanctions on Russia, on energy policy, on doing stuff to the curricula in schools. But the BSW, unlike any other party, might enable Ulrich Seigman, who is a leader of the AFD in Saxony Unhelp, to become state premier, had the BSW not made it into Parliament, then we'd be looking at a very different sense of circumstances this morning. So now there's going to be a lot of attention on how that party decides to position itself. What happens if no party conform a government? I think this is highly likely. Ulrich Seigman from the AFD has said that he would not want to lead a minority government and there doesn't appear to be an alternative to that right now. I'm also not sure that he would want to make himself hostage to the BSW, which is a very complicated,
troubled party. They split in a neighboring state just last week putting the government there into jeopardy. So if I was in the AFD's position, I'm not sure I'd want to make myself hostage to that sort of party. So if none of this works out, I mean, it will take some time for all of this stuff to play out. But if none of it works out, then we really are in stalemate because under the laws of Saxony Unhelp, there is no time limit in which a vote for the Minister of President has to take place. So then short search of kind of carry on as acting state premier, more or less indefinitely, at least that's what the law says. So you can imagine that we enter a stalemate that eventually the parliament decides it would need a two-thirds majority, but the parliament decides to hold fresh elections maybe sometime next year. It's not at all clear how things are going to proceed, but I would say that the chances of Germany having its first ever far-right state premier since the Second World War are higher this morning than we expected they were going to be. What does that ultimately mean for Germany then? Well, there's a hell of a lot of soul searching
going on this morning as you can imagine. 44% for a party that the state's own intelligence services describer's right-wing extremist is just a body blow to a country that built its entire post-war identity on excluding extremists from power. But that's where we are. The AFD is a more radical party than a lot of its counterparts across Europe. It rallies behind the banner of remigration. Large parts of the party have a sort of ethno nationalist idea of what they want Germany to become. They're skeptical about Germany's place in the EU, in NATO. Large parts of the party are very pro-Russian, anti-Ukrainian, and this is why the state's own intelligence services regard the party's right-wing extremist, and there are many people inside the German mainstream who think the party should simply be banned. So this is not a conventional party in any sense of the word. And what about the implications for Europe more generally? So there's no direct implications for Europe because even if the AFD does eventually find its way to power and
sexy and health, states in Germany do not have a direct impact on foreign policy. But obviously, there's an indirect impact. It was striking just how many populist right parties in other parts of Europe weighed in to celebrate, with a notable exception, by the way, of Marina Pen in France, because there is no love lost between the national rally and the AFD. But most of the other right-wing nationalist parties in Europe jumped right into celebrate. Some of them were even represented at the AFD party last night. So I think that there will be a kind of morale-boosting effect. There will be a sense that the tide is turning in favor of these sorts of outfits, because if this can happen in Germany, then it can happen anywhere. Tom, thank you very much. Thanks, Rosie. This economist podcast is sponsored by Bill, the intelligent finance platform that helps businesses and accounting firms scale with proven results. With AI-powered automation, Bill isn't just moving money. They're simplifying financial operations for nearly half a million
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for contrails and almost the perfect place to do it. It's called Operation Blue Skies. Ollie, why do contrails heat up the planet and how big a problem are they really? Well, contrails like all clouds, they give them, they take away. They reflect a bit of sunlight out of space, so they're cooling, but they also trap heat trying to get out of the earth in infrared radiation and re-emitting downwards. So they have two effects and although some contrails sometimes may be mainly cooling, on average contrails are warming and they're particularly warming, of course, at night because there's no sunlight to reflect and you just get the warming effect. And depending on how you calculate it, the warming effects of contrails are a bit less than or maybe the same as the warming effect of the carbon dioxide that's emitted by planes in the first place. So in terms of the climate impacts of aviation, it's really significant.
Okay, so that's a big deal, Ollie. Half of the climate heating effect of air travel is down to those wispy little trails. Not just the wispy little trails, the clouds that the wispy little trails turn into, but yes, it is striking. Now, I think we should normally say up to 50%, because the air abars on the amount of warming that you get from contrails are quite large. To get up to 50%, you need to think your estimate for the contrails is a bit low and your estimate for the fuel may be a bit high. Half is quite possible. A third, I think you could probably take to the bank. Aren't they a byproduct of flying? What could you do about them? They are at some extent a byproduct of flying, but the ones that really matter are the ones that last and then persist. You'll have seen them in the skies as they spread out and become broader pale clouds. And that only happens when the plane involved goes through an area which is crept up for contrailing. These areas are areas where the air is cold, but it's also damp. In fact, it's so damp that if you just put something in it around
which ice could crystallize, the ice would crystallize. And so it's not just the water that's coming out of the jets exhaust that's going into the contra now. The contrails gathering up moisture from around it in order to make a much bigger cloud than the plane could make on its own. Those are the contrails which do most of the warming work. And they only get made in these damp but cold areas, what are called in the trade ice super saturated regions. They're up towards the top of the lower atmosphere, what's called the troposphere, which is where air traffic mostly goes. And so there are above eight kilometers, maybe eight to 13 kilometers up in the sky. And they tend to be very broad but very thin. People talk about them as pancakes. They might be a few hundred kilometers across, but only a few hundred meters deep. And so if you know where they are, you can normally avoid them simply by flying a little bit lower. On their quite strict rules about where planes can fly, not just for efficiency but safety. Can you really add another variable to that?
Well, that's part of what Operation Blue Skies is doing. The change you need to make to stay out of one of these super saturated regions, these cold damp pancake bits. It's normally fairly small. You couldn't just drop down a few hundred meters and your problem is over. That's what people who fly stealth bombers do because they don't like to leave controls. And so you're following the same path, but you're a little bit lower. And that's the sort of thing that planes do anyway to avoid turbulence. But the question of whether they can be asked to do it on a regular basis by air traffic control to avoid controls and whether that can be done safely and routinely, that's one of the things that they're testing in Operation Blue Skies. The other thing they're testing, of course, is that if you do this systematically, do you actually end up with a sky that has significantly fewer controls in it? And how do you test that? One of the advantages of the North Atlantic as a test region is that it's been continuously looked at by not just one, but two weather satellites.
And they are looking in both the visible and the infrared. So they're pretty good at picking up controls. And part of Blue Skies, quite a big part, is being undertaken by Google who are using machine learning to make sure that they can actually ascertain which controls come from which flights and where they go. The North Atlantic is a good place to do this because by some calculations, the North Atlantic is about 5% of the global control problem, but a fraction of 1% of the airspace that air that aircoff travel through. Given how expensive fuel is, won't this cost too much in the airline's view? The airlines may have a particular view about it that doesn't necessarily represent the common good. But in general, it's actually, I think, surprisingly cheap. Flying lower down is slightly less efficient and slightly slower. So you add a few minutes to a journey time and you may add 1% to 2% to the fuel costs. But remember, you're only doing this for a fairly small amount of flights, researchers at an organisation called contrails.org, reckon that
it's at most 5% of flights you'd have to change and maybe 2% of flights. And that would give you about 80% of the potential benefit. If just 2% of flights is responsible for 80% of the emissions due to contrails, isn't that quite an easy change for airlines to make? Well, it's easy to make if air traffic control measures can be made that will make it safe and reliable. And if it turns out that the ways we have a predicting where the places where very warm in contrails will form if those systems work, then it should be fairly easy. And if that figure turns out to be too optimistic, it still for sure gets 70% of the cooling with 5% of the flights. At the same time, airlines are very jealously guarding their fuel bills. There's another point to bear in mind as well is that some airlines would end up doing more of this than others. If you're flying in temperate and subtropical Asia, you are much less likely to make a persistent
contrail than if you are flying over Canada or over the North Atlantic Ocean. It's just the atmospheric conditions of different. Nevertheless, a real cost on airlines is something that might be hard to persuade them of. I think that's one of the reasons why doing it to air traffic control is possibly the simplest and most direct solution to this issue. It's true, airlines won't be amazingly happy about it, but airlines have to agree to air traffic control changes. So they might lobby against doing this, but if people could overcome that lobbying, then I think that system might work quite well. Now, people with a less idealistic hat on say that well, we'll probably have to sweeten it up for the airlines to some extent. And that may be the case, but in general, this is an externality of air travel, which airlines are imposing on the rest of the world in order to serve airlines passengers. And it's not entirely unreasonable that airlines should pay the cost of that externality. And if they pass it through to passengers,
well, I think that would be entirely reasonable too, but it won't be a huge amount of cost pass through to passengers. Oli, thank you very much. You're welcome, Rosie. Happy travels. Across South Korea, Buddhist events are popping up everywhere. Subin Kim writes about Korea. There are Buddhist raves where young people dance to sutra and spy our tracks. Temples are organizing meditation festivals and even matchmaking events for singles. These couples are taking part in a trust-building walk. It's part of the program at a Buddhist matchmaking retreat at the Exanso Temple in South Korea. Buddhist groups hope these type of events
can revive interest in the ancient religion. South Koreans, especially young ones, are becoming less religious overall, and the number of practicing Buddhist is shrinking. Last year, the association of Buddhist orders in Korea met to discuss Buddhism's future in the country. It focused on one core challenge. How to create lasting engagement without being coercive? One of Buddhism's main selling points. I went to a Buddhist expo organized by the Chouket Order of Korean Buddhism and Seoul to see those efforts for myself. When I enter, I'm surprised by the size of the crowd. There are hordes of people queuing to get in. Inside, I see dozens and dozens of stalls selling everything from Buddhist deemed art to prayer beads and singing bowls. One stall showcases the only funeral provider in the country that still puts on the ceremony
the Buddhist way. A Buddhist funeral prepares six offerings, rice, candles, incense, flowers, tea, and pure water, which represent the six paramedics or the virtues practiced in Buddhism. These days, most people opt for a more simple funeral with just the frame portrait and flowers. To try it out, I decided to die for a few minutes. The funeral director has me put on the robe. There's golden letters printed on it. It's a passage from the diamond sutra, a book about the impermanence of life. Then he tells me to lie down in a coffin. He knocks on the coffin three times pretending to seal it. Nailed shot.
After a minute, he says I've been resurrected. Many stalls like this one are promoting Buddhist tradition, but others are actively trying to give Buddhism a modern twist. One booth presents an AI monk chatbot, tell it what is wearing you, and a Buddha with dreadlocks will generate a reggae song in response. Minanai Sampchanan, the four-starry lord, made by his own mother, made it down. Its creator, Kun Sang, is charging $3,000 per track, about $2. He says he chose reggae because its rhythmic structure compliments the repetition of mantras. He also seems to think reggae is popular among young people. I'm not so sure about that, but he's noticed that the exposed visitors are mostly young. For a growing number of young Koreans, Buddhism offers a refuge from an unforgiving
pace of life. Many describe life as stressful, competitive, and full of uncertainty. Buddhism begins with the idea that suffering is an inevitable part of life, and offers ways to confront it with greater common perspective. At another Buddhism expo, Antegu, I meet 25-year-old Kim Soojin. Soojin says Buddhism has an advantage over Christianity for some secular Koreans. Rather than asking followers to place their faith in a deity, she says it encourages them to have faith in themselves. A recent poll found Buddhism to be the religion viewed most favorably by secular Koreans. That doesn't seem unrelated to its recent surge in popularity. Books about mindfulness, like life hacks from the Buddha, have become best sellers across the country. And last year, temples hosted a record number of overnight guests, many like Soojin,
looking for some peace and perspective. Some monks fear that Buddhism's recent focus on reinventing itself and the commercialization that could happen along the way could misrepresent its teachings. Fenerbles Ho-wan of Chik-ji's Atempo, who is manning one of the stalls at the expo, is optimistic. She sees these adaptations as a way in, and she doesn't see them as radically different from existing Buddhist practices. Buddhism, she says, as always, transcended conventions. With so many people flocking to his expo, it is hard not to share some of that optimism. Organizers say a quarter of a million people attended the four-day event in Seoul. I think it's too early to know whether this is a passing fad or the start of a more lasting shift in how young Koreans engage with Buddhism. The merchant derives may not bring you closer to enlightenment per se, but at least they are lifting spirits.
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