
About this episode
Filmmaker and director Ali Selim shares a story about his complicated relationship with his father. Dr. Emily Gaarder talks about her work in restorative justice, and explains why she sometimes refers to forgiveness as “the F-word.” Songwriter Carla Kihlstedt recalls her long connection to Ali and his work, and shares a brand new song.
Special thanks to FilmNorth for hosting the live event, and to New England Conservatory's Department of Recording and Performance Technology Services, and to audio engineer Collin Register.
Chapters:
00:02:38
Ali Selim's story
00:16:28
Dr. Emily Gaarder's perspective
00:42:29
Carla Kihlstedt's "I Am a Fish"
SongWriterPodcast.com
Instagram.com/SongWriterPodcast
Facebook.com/SongWriterPodcast
TikTok.com/@SongWriterPodcast
YouTube.com/@SongwriterPodcast
SongWriter is a music and songwriting podcast that turns stories into songs. Host Ben Arthur invites writers, poets, and musicians to share a story or poem, then pairs it with an original song written in response. Along the way, the show explores the creative process through intimate conversations and performances. Guests have included Questlove, Susan Orlean, David Gilmour, David Sedaris, Joyce Carol Oates, and George Saunders. Distributed by PRX, SongWriter also appears on the syndicated radio program Acoustic Café and in Paste Magazine. Learn more at SongWriterPodcast.com.
Season seven is made possible by a grant from Templeton World Charity Foundation
Get every episode summarized
Each time SongWriter turns stories into songs publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from SongWriter turns stories into songs

A Troublesome Cat: Bruce Holsinger + The Golden Hours
SongWriter turns stories into songs

Forgiveness in Rio: Maria Rezende + Pedro Mann
SongWriter turns stories into songs

Unicorn-Level Positivity: Helen Cho + Alison Mosshart (The Kills)
SongWriter turns stories into songs

Caregiving and Reconciliation: Silas Howard + Dorian Wood
SongWriter turns stories into songs