AI vs Creativity. Then, Now, and Next with Drew Thurlow.

The episode in which we ask the expert all the questions about AI and making music, as it stands today: what can AI actually do? What is it going to be able to do next month? Next year? How do we retain rights? How do you ethically train AI models? Is our work safe? Is it protected? Are musicians done? What about AI bands eating up the streaming money? Drew Thurlow is the former SVP of A&R at Sony Masterworks, Director of Artist Partnerships at Pandora, and part of the A&R/marketing team at Nonesuch Records, and is currently the founder of the Lone Wolves Community - a music business and tech community and think tank, is founder of Opening Ceremony Media where he consults on AI strategy and more to companies such as RocNation, and has a book coming out in 2026 titled, “Machine Music: How AI is Transforming Music's Next Act."

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Links:

• Drew Thurlow
• Lone Wolves Community
• Ep 111 - Bandcamp Editorial Director J Edward Keyes
• Ep 109 - Major Jackson
• Tiesto
• Velvet Sundown
• Timbaland's AI label
• Suno
• Anthropic
• Justin Tranter

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