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1:27We are survivors. Trey, we are. We are survivors. We're talking about that. Very exciting. Sweet 16, of course, four games down, four to come tonight. Two great ones yesterday to start the night in terms of just fanhood regardless of where your bets are. Then two clonkers. After that, we'll get it all momentarily. On the show today, I suppose we give this man the headline every Friday. By the way, show brought to you by Profit X proudly. We'll talk about Profit X, what they're doing with the King of March. I'll show long. Steve Fesik, Fesik Fridays later today. We are going to talk not only men's college hoops. He's got to play in women's college hoops. Tyler Shoemaker will join us to do that as well. They're in the sweet 16. We'll have to call theirs a sweet 16 as well. Four games tonight in women's college. In the women's college tournament. Four games tomorrow night. Tyler Shoemaker's play plays on each. And also his futures play on the women's side. Their sweet 16 is not quite like the men's sweet 16. Yukon is like a 27 point favorite, I think, in their game in the sweet 16.

2:28All number, all number one seed still up in the in the women's tournament. So, uh, Fesik on that as well. Fesik's going to have a reaction to the first day of Major League Baseball. Paul Schien's man. Move. Although you know, I will point it out, right? People are going to say, oh man, Paul Schien's got rock. And he did. He was not good. No one's suggesting that. But O'Neill Cruz did him no favors in center field. That should have been two. That should have been two to two. That was bad. As he sort of leaned in on a ball that ended up a couple in the end. A couple of feet over his head. I don't know. Faces loaded one out situation. Stage is too big for the Schien's kids. I've got a lot to prove. Schien's kid might be. By the way, Guardians won. There goes our season win total under toast. Red's lost. There goes our March April. I do love opening day when it comes to win totals. That's the same thing. You're like, there's just a small part of my braid last night. What a watching highlights. And I'm like, Orioles. Yes. And you're like, oh yeah.

3:28That's the only 85 board to go, Gil. Well, that's the beauty of the, especially the March April's, right? Or, I mean, if anything, you make a point. Right. You stay invested. I'm joking because a month from now I will not think that right when I see an Orioles score. But day one, you're like, yeah. Here we go. On the board. Blue Jays. Our last to be undefeated. They begin their schedule today. So we'll get into all that. Dallin Cuffle. Join us. Talk college hoops with us on the show today as well. JVT making an appearance on the show. Got JVT coming in. Yeah. Nick Whalen. Nick Whalen will join us. JVT. We don't win off. Gets our JVT's hosting money moves this week with Stormy out. So we'll get it all that last night, though, man. Let's, let's just. Let's begin where we're supposed to with. Just two great games early in this one. Beginning with Purdue squeaking by Texas. Braden Smith gave Purdue a three point lead on a lap with 37.7 seconds left. This was nip and tuck the whole way. So. They go up three with 37.7 seconds left.

4:28The, the boiler makers do. Then Texas misses a three. But the long horns are retained possession. Would jump all a 21.5 seconds left. Purdue then thousand. So to make sure Texas doesn't have a chance to tie. Maras. Vokititis. He, he made both his free throws, but then Purdue C.J. Cox makes two. They're back up three are Purdue. However, then Texas tied the game. A less than 12 seconds left. Dale and swaying to the rack and one. He hits the free throw. We are tied. Oscar Kluff with the foul. And so. Purdue calls timeouts and they set up the last play. They're like, oh, like we're going to, we're going to milk this to the end. It's going to be overtime where we win. Braden Smith to the hole. He misses, but Trey Kaufman ran with a put back with 0.7 seconds left. And Purdue. The number two seed advances in their region. In a game where, and now Bob had Purdue was at 79, 77. They were going to eat and a half point. Favorite. Remember, Bob yesterday had Purdue. So we were changing Texas. He was quick to point out. And he's correct about this.

5:28Texas. I mean, 46% three point shooting from the long horns. Purdue was at 20% typically on the season. Purdue's up at about 39%. Texas is about 34.8%. So this was totally an anomalous sort of performance from behind the arc. Had it went, had it gone and, you know, to form. Of course, you know what they say about ifson buts, but it had it gone to form. Purdue maybe runs away with this instead. They just get by the 11 seed long horns who were trying to be the third first four team to ever get to the final four. Remember, 2011. Shockest March. VCU team in 2021. UCLA. So Texas falls a couple games short of that. Yeah. Just looking at this box score a little bit more. Kill you head. Fletcher lawyer with the only one on Purdue to make a three. The only, the only player. Then he had Pope and Mark on the Texas side combined to go nine for 16. It's pretty good. What do you say about football? You need to nose the turnovers and basketball.

6:28You need to nose the three point percentage. And then our Iowa Hawkeyes. Let's go, baby. Get us through a survivor. Iowa reaches the first elite eights since 1987. Actually, remember that. Iowa didn't take their first lead in this game as those of us who had Iowa and survivor. So we're very, so we're certainly aware of. I wouldn't take their first lead this game until two 12 left. Two, two 12 to go and they finally went up 68 65. Did you feel like you were just getting toyed with the whole time by Nebraska? That's what I felt like. I didn't actually believe this was going to be the out. I can't tell you how many times of those, those possessions leading up to two 12 left. I was like, oh, we take the lead anytime you're guys. Exactly. Hey, time you guys are ready. Iowa eventually goes up six. Then there's 71 68. With 58.8 seconds left. As Nebraska cuts it to three. And then Nebraska has four players on the Iowa in bounce pass on the court. Four players on the court and Kale Combs notices it.

7:30Touchdown pass to Alvaro for Garis. Score and a foul. And it was pretty much Katie bar the door at that point. What a blunder Fred Hoyberg taking all responsibility as the coach should. A 15 to six Iowa run down the stretch and the Hawkeyes. Get it done for us. I think I didn't check this morning, but the way I calculate, I think I'm in now like 180th place or something like that now. I really I got no choice to go. I saw I was was the most selected in our pool. So I guess I must have count on moving up too much. Yeah, because there was a lot that had that had Texas not so much Texas, but Nebraska was the other one right now. Any thoughts on that the whole the ending sequence, the four four men on the court. And if the ref should have done something that was that's the big question art, because the refs are always counting to see if they're six. Yeah. Yeah. Are they not counting to see if they're four. So it's reading up a bit on this this morning.

8:30I mean, it's not in the rules in the rules. It's on the coach. It's on the coach to get five my five guys on the floor. However, and I think this is where I don't really care, Gil, but they are incredibly inconsistent about it. Refs will usually will usually they'll hold up play the wave over. Hey, you're missing one. Um, they'll do that often. So it's like, I don't have a problem with this because yeah, at the end of the day, I think it should be on the coach, too. If you don't have five guys on the floor, you should live with it. But I wish they'd let that. I know we don't I know we don't see it often, but I've seen them stop play to get make sure another guy gets back on the, uh, on the floor for a team. So it's just it feels inconsistent. Good on stand van Gundie for noticing it. Yeah. He was the he was. He was great. He was great. Um, by the way, so the, the lines of those, uh, of those upcoming games, do we have lines on those? I'm looking at, I'm looking at a book that's not even posting them. Yeah, we do. We have Iowa, Illinois, Illinois will be six and a half.

9:30Yeah. These were posted last night. I'm just looking at I happen to be looking at six and a half seven. I happen to be looking at an offshore pillar that isn't posting them. Six and a half seven out there right now. One thirty eight one thirty eight and a half. That's Illinois favorite over Iowa. Yes. Uh-huh. And then you have Arizona anywhere between a five and a half and six and a half point favorite against Purdue totals one fifty two and a half. I believe I heard this opened at four last night. So it's been all Arizona money here early. Yeah. Those were those were the two, uh, good games. If you will competitive games, what a great way to start the night just in terms of, uh, just the drama and then not so much after that. Uh, in a in a region where Florida had gotten knocked out and Houston was just playing miles away from campus. The Cougars don't score until four forty six into the ballgame. I wouldn't be. Now I once told the story here on the show when I was a kid on a super little and Dean Smith went into the four corners. There was a Duke North Carolina game.

10:31And I remember going over my buddy Alex spends his house in grade school. It was seven and nothing at the halftime. And I was going to give you a little bit of care line. I was shut out in the first half. But that's pretty shot clock era. I love it. But he times you've told that. That story on the air because it's also partially like Kelly needs to hear it multiple times because you have no idea what we live through. I'm just sitting on that couch last night like, oh my god. This is miserable. But in the shot clock era, they that was like thirty five seconds shy of being the record for biggest drought to begin us to begin a game. D one. We're talking. Anyway, that's how it started. But then remember Houston cut this to two at the half. And you're kind of thinking, okay, they played horribly. They're going to come out and smoke them in the second half. At least I had that thought. Yeah, not so much. Illinois limited Houston to four points in the first eight minutes and forty seconds of the second half rode to a seventeen and nothing run to an eighteen point lead with eleven fifty four remaining forty four twenty six. And by the way, Houston shot their first free throw with three twenty seven left in this game. That was another thing. In all Houston shot just thirty four percent for the floor twenty eight percent for behind the arc.

11:34And yet another lottery pick, right? Kingston Flemmings goes out with a whimper eleven point six boards for us. Yeah. And Illinois, meanwhile, they they're one win away from its first final four. Since Darren Williams and D Brown, who could forget that align IT back in 2005, get into the final four. David Merkowitz, Merkowitz with fourteen and ten for the align. I would look just absolute excuse me pardon me for yeah for a line who looked absolutely great yesterday. I think he's uh Flemming it real quick. I just he's like kind of the one NBA guy. I feel like that I've been trying to watch out for this year, expecting for him to kind of make a significant statement at some. I don't I don't see it. I don't I don't see it as much as with the sub of these other guys. Well, you know, and everybody's been going crazy about a cuff. We didn't get to the Arizona game. The whole time I'm watching it. Arkansas, I'm like, who's 24? Richard's like, that kid looks fantastic. Yeah, he did look good. So by the way, Arizona six players and double figures for the first time in a NCAA tournament games since 1997.

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15:35He says Cleveland. What a no. Thanks a lot, Gil. Already ripped up my guardian season. Win total under ticket. LOL. I actually hammered this plan. Never do that. Away to labor before I start getting concerned. LOL. I love great reactions. In, uh, If the first day of mageley baseball. By the way, I'm going to apologize to you right now. And any viewers at home. We've got the golf coverage right now is in the corner. And somehow it is only showing the guys that I've been on, Gil. It seems like my entire betting card is play is an action right now. So I'm Scott. Yeah. Scott was one of them. Yeah. I hope so. I hope Brooks. He wasn't. No, he was not. You see me shaking my head like I just did. It's probably because of golf. Kids of squirrel. Yes. Balls at jump ball. He says you're probably not even awake yet. And I'm tweeting you that I'm riding with Yuri LaHechka today in the semis at Miami. Oh, by the way. Uh, Carolina Mojova. Sorry about that. She went from playing maybe her best match. I've ever seen her play. She was a bad person. Dude, I didn't even like I saw the score. I was like, what happened?

16:36You know what? Just a overall. A clunker out of nowhere. Overall by the way. Just I was thinking about this when I left yesterday. And I didn't think about it again until you just brought it back up. But the so many sports going on yesterday. Maybe this applies more to just like me and you who have tennis and golf going to be like. I mean, opening day NBA. The NCAA tournament golf tennis so much going on. Christopher Lou Besnick. Someone mentioned that George is a team name for Las Vegas's NBA team. I think hotel and casino employees call tippers. George's after the man on the $1 bill. Back when tipping a dollar was enough. I still like the six to fives better. Everybody loves coming up with these names. Peter Watchry. This is interesting. Says Rufus. Our buddy Rufus. Peabody said his group was on Illinois spread and money line this week. For the most money they've wagered in college basketball. I of course, Tailed for an inappropriate amount of money and got sick. When Dr. Bob was Oppo. So interesting how successful math models can differ meant to text you that yesterday. Actually, I was at the gym and listening to. Uh, uh, uh, but the process by the process with Jeff.

17:38My and Rufus. And they they as you know better than most. Rufus. Uh, yeah, he uh, he'll hold back a lot. Yeah. He was very happy to say how heavy they were on Illinois. So I was a little shocked by that too. Yeah. Yeah. Look good. Look good, Rufus. Worked out very nicely. JB Uncle Bush. Mojoba. Gad Zooks. Yeah. That was kind of my reaction too. Shoot him again. And I pretty much only watch college basketball during the tournament. Wow. When your wife starts complaining about replay. You know it's bad. Talking about Texas and Purdue. Oh, interminable stops of action. Oh, I like this. Cleve T.A. Our buddy chiming in because I had mentioned, uh, I had mentioned what Bob was saying about Texas and Purdue's shooting. Well, apparently Cleve had had tweeted yesterday. I think Purdue wins tonight because I have to assume this three point shooting cools off and really interesting if Texas can take advantage of it does cool off. He says he went back over the last 25 years and, uh, and did some analysis. I can't read the whole thing. But then he chimes in today goes tell Bob the three point variance with Purdue was easy

18:40to see it regression for the first two rounds. I like it. I love when our guys get on each other. Holy Buckeye. Our buddy Kirk, uh, Kirk Chamberlain. Are people really betting baseball pre-flop with no listed pictures? I see on the south point and circa app no listed pictures. Am I wrong? Well, that's been going on for some time now with the no listed pictures, Kirk. Money gun guzz. Has anyone ever forgot to put their college hoop survivor pick before? Oh, yeah. He says, I'll raise my hand. It happened to me last night. I went to look to see why I picked and it said no pick felt sad for a second and said, well, it wasn't NFL survivor for one K life happens. Oh, yeah, we had a bunch that didn't put it in six. Well, by a bunch, I mean, 16. Is anybody else as crazy as me with that would never happen to me, Gil? Because I have, I literally have two alarms set on my phone. I have a note written down. I know we're going to discuss it on probably yesterday. I made sure to send it in before we even left here and probably do the same thing again today. Yeah. It's, uh, it would have been very easy to forget yesterday. Mm hmm. Today not so much, but yesterday after, after like three or four days off, sure.

19:41Absolutely. Do you do your alarm for when you wake up on your phone, by the way? Yes, I do. Which alarm do you choose? Whatever the built in is. I've never changed it. Okay. So I, but for those who know out there, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I will sleep through 95 plus percent of the alarms that are set on the iPhone. So like that one will not wake me up. I will sleep right through that. Not me. I use the like blaring horn. Like there is like a nuclear bomb coming or something. It's like. So that's all be hearing like six times. I used to do a two alarm system. Now I'm one, now I'm kamikaze one, one phone. That's it. You know what? I feel like once you've done this wake up call for about four or five years, you could finally move from the, the backup alarm clock to just having one. The same way. All right. We got more tweets to read. Let me just read one more here. Andy V who says I was riding shotgun with you on Iowa last night. You've mentioned taking Tennessee today, but isn't who you have already taken important context. Well, yeah, you can't take who you took already.

20:42For example, I've taken Alabama already. They've been upset. Michigan. You'd be dead in the water with Tennessee based on the bracket. Yeah. From my perspective, I don't give Alabama much of a shot. I do like Alabama, plus the points kind of, I don't give Alabama much of a shot. So for me, the only play is Tennessee. Like I'm not even considering anything else. So even if I get knocked out like I'll have zero regret whatsoever about this stuff. About tonight's game. I have no idea where I'm going. I'm not going to throw a suit with you survive because you don't have to use Tennessee. Yeah. So as much as I want to complain about like being forced on the Iowa yesterday, I'd almost rather be forced on to a side here today. The early, pardon me, the early games today, one in the east, one in the Midwest, St. John's Duke tips off earliest today at seven, 10 Eastern, four, 10 Pacific, Duke, favored by six and a half, all we have heard, including ourselves, by the way. And I joined you guys is St. John's traffic and yet Bob is on Duke.

21:47Bob is on Duke. I saw one last seven last night and I was like, yeah, I'm going to join my friend, Gil. This is it. You know what scares me about this too? I could see, say, John's keeping it close for like the first 38 minutes of this game. Yes. And then losing by 13 losing, but well, I don't even know if that, but they tend right with final free throws and that kind of thing. Alabama Michigan is the one that tips off early in the Midwest. We were just talking about this Michigan's favor by down. It was it eight and a half now anywhere between eight and a half and nine and a half out there and all over the place, mainly nine, but I just, I want to say this one more time because I feel like I need to be on record with this. This Aiden Holloway thing is bothering me. It seems like more than anybody else. Well, which part because I feel like there's a part, I'll tell you which part because if this were, I don't know, let me go with Cam Booser. Yeah. If this were Cameron Booser, we would not stop talking about this. Right? Cam Booser is just, he's gone because he had two pounds of weed and again, it's a Californian talking here, right?

22:48Weed is not a thing, people. Well, at least it shouldn't be anyway. So if this were Cameron Booser, right, we would not stop talking about this because it would threaten Duke, you know, Duke's run here for the national title, but because it's Bama. And by the way, no people are like, well, the Baron Philan's best. I don't think he is like Aiden Holloway, if you watch enough Bama games, Aiden Holloway is just sick. So that was the part I didn't know if you're going to go, go to, I don't, I can't believe how much I've heard. They're a better team without him. Oh, people got to stop with that nonsense this week and drive me crazy, drive me, drive me. You're two game sample size, just a whole article from somebody. They're better off without, same sort of things happening right now with Jason Tatum. He's like, had a couple bad shitty games on the Celtics and they're like, I don't know, they were a better team without it. Like, no, no, no. Anyway, I'm looking at Alba and Plus not, but you're right, it's all over the place. I expect Michigan to a world, this is one of these games and I think one of I didn't mean to cut you off because you're absolutely right. Yes. You're absolutely right. It drives me crazy that this people's gods, Bama, say, whatever, no one talks about

23:49it anymore. It's like, no, this is, this is such a, especially when we, because you and I believe the same thing. This feels like such a set up and like, I don't, like, maybe we made too much light of it and I don't want it. But it was the day after selection Sunday, like couple, like, this is just amazing coincidence scale. Someone decided to pick up a phone that day. I do feel like if you told me Michigan one by one or they won by 31, I wouldn't be surprised either way. So I'm not going to see her and say that two pounds of weed isn't a lot of weed, but like, oh, boy, they found a whole $400 on them. Oh boy. The shager operation be prosecuted to the extent of the law. I think sarcastic, but second, the second wave of games, of course, in both of those regions. Tennessee Iowa state, Iowa state favored by four. Oh God, I'm an trusting survivor to Rick Barnes, aren't I? Oh boy. I am very shaky about this, but I got no choice. I got to play Tennessee. I got no choice. Six seed because I need the points. And then Michigan state Connecticut.

24:50I mean, if we had to choose one game above all, is it St. John's Duke or is it Michigan state Connecticut? It is Michigan state Connecticut. I think so too. And I bet Michigan state last. You did. I did. Yes. Oh wow. I bet Michigan state. I think Yukon just is still like isn't it all season we're waiting for those Yukon team to put it all together? Well, my future's ticket says that. Yeah. Husky's favored by two. I might even play him in survivor, you know, get down and cuffs thoughts on this. Oh, really? Might. Might. Kaleid by the lawn, calling his shot, coming up on a numbers game right here at Feeson. A numbers game on Feeson, these sports betting network. Look at where it edge this tournament. Well, Veson's got you covered seed by seed betting trends report is available gives you the historical trends key stats betting angles for every matchup, everything you need to bet every round smarter. And the best part, it's completely free. Don't cost yet. Nothing. Download yours today for free at Veson.com slash download. That's V S I N dot com slash download.

25:53J Ron Berger, D through some tweets. Kelly. See what we got here? I mean, I do some editing. OK, J T C J T and S J J C was responding to cleave TA talking about Bob. He says, he says no, tell him his two bets on the show lost and the result is all that matters get tired of the justification and crying from Bob through Gil when his bets lose. All right, J T, we got to be better than this. I can't I can't stand when people like when someone gives you stats as to why the bet lost doesn't mean he's given an excuse. He's just telling you, Hey, here's what happened. He's not giving an excuse. And he's by the way, he's very honest about what he wins to that things break his way also. Yeah, I just want to back up a guy right there, Mitchell Davis, Mitchell Davies, pardon me, Mitchell. Once Vegas last Thursday Sunday, first time in Vegas from March, man, it stayed at MGM Thursday through Saturday. Circa Sunday through Tuesday, ridiculous. How they kept drink tickets at four a day at MGM.

26:54No matter how much you bet, Circa way better. Not only that, I think it's like $500 a ticket, $500 bet a ticket. In other words, also, I'd hate to be a captain buzzkill. But I think dream tickets are quickly becoming a thing of a past in the city overall. Yes. It's like basically anything you can get these days. Steve S, how amazing is Lord Allen Boston? Yes, gentlemen, he should be a Lord. All his info on sweet 16 day, one, four and oh, leans and likes. He's truly a national treasure for sports betters, cheers Lord Allen Boston. See, there's the flip side of it. All people need his one day of success and it's like, oh my God, let us worship at the altar. I know I keep bringing it up. I don't want to be that guy. It's like the every time I see one of those tweets, it's like, do people fully understand like he's good. Bob's going to lose 40% of the time or near 40% of the time. I can't. And Mickey Monkey, man, Gil, they're trying to end the brain dead parlay run. They really say it isn't so apparently the NBA is presenting three comprehensive anti-tanking proposals. We'll have to talk about those later on the show after read up on which three they landed on. Sure, they're all flawless.

27:54I was just about to say this is my next line. I'm sure they're foolproof. Adam Silver's got it all figured out. Ladies and gentlemen, Tyler Shoemaker is here to talk not only men's tournament with us, but also the women's tournament, which begins the sweet 16 tonight, continues into tomorrow night. Tyler Shoemaker joins us now courtesy of the progressive guest line. You can follow all his stuff at visa.com at T shoe index, which is not just his Twitter handle, but his index is a rating system on all these college teams. Are you doing Tyler? Hey, good morning, guys. Doing very well. You were purple this morning. That was the, that was the choice. That was your Kelly, you said? It was. Yeah. Well, you know, to be honest, I was almost stormy in JVT earlier in the week and stormy said the purple ones are favorite. So I had to do it. None of her. There you go. I just like anything bright, Tyler. I appreciate your bringing the, the bright jacket. Yeah. I like it. If stormy says I'd go with it as well, let's, let's start with the women's game. And let's start with just all, I've got to just say, all four number one seeds still alive. And by alive, I mean, here are the spreads on these. Yukon's a 29 point favorite over North Carolina.

28:57UCLA tonight is number one seed is a 19 point favorite over Minnesota. Tomorrow night, the one seeds South Carolina is an 18 and a half point favorite over Oklahoma and then who is a tight one, Texas, only a 15 point for favorite over Kentucky throw in LSU to that mix. And when you look at the futures board, because LSU, by the way, double digit favorite in their game as well in the sweet 16, everybody else is 80 to one or longer to win this Tyler. I assume you think that's generally correct. And is there a bet here besides Yukon? I definitely think that's correct. And to be honest, I don't. South Carolina, I mean, obviously a great program and a really good team and a deserving number one seed this year, I would put them below the other number three, below the other three number one seeds. And then, and I know South Carolina B LSU and the SEC tournament, I think LSU ceiling is higher. I think, I think when I was on with Stormy and JVT earlier in the week, LSU was 25 to

29:58one at that point. And I said, that would be my play would be LSU. I mean, if you want to lay the chalk with Yukon, I don't blame you. I think they're going to win it. But if you're looking for, you know, kind of a longer shot play, I think LSU is as good as any because they have three players that I think really just hoop like dudes and, and that's what you need. That raises your ceiling with Michaela Williams and my laser full wily and flage a Johnson on any given night, I think they could be just about anybody, but maybe Yukon isn't just anybody. Yeah. And if we, I mean, let me ask you a different way, if we went back into the pantheon of great Yukon women's teams from page backers to Maya Mord or Rebecca Lobo, I was far back as you can go, where does this one rank to you? You know, yeah, I mean, to me, it maybe doesn't have the long-term star power of like, you know, the Brianna Stewart era or something like that. But I do think Sarah Strong and AZ Futter are going to be really good pros, but I just think this Yukon team top the bottom is just so complete.

31:00They just don't have any flaws. Yeah. Brianna Stewart, I left out Diana Terossi, Sue Bird, like, who else did I leave out everybody? Okay. That's a good assessment of this team because I was wondering, I was like, did I miss an epically great team, but you're telling me not quite tip of the, you know, tipy top here with Yukon, but all right. So LSU still value at 18 to one, though not as much obviously as you liked him earlier in the week. Yeah. For sure. If I was going to play anything besides just laying chalk with Yukon, it would be LSU. Okay. So in any of the sweet 16 games tonight or tomorrow night? Yeah. Friday, today I bet Notre Dame plus five and a half against Vanderbilt. I understand why the line is what it is looking at the season long metrics, but Notre Dame since February has been like a different team, but now it would actually make them about a half point favorite just looking at that data set. So I think Notre Dame is a live dog here against Vanderbilt. I also laid 19 and a half with UCLA. I think they're going to destroy Minnesota. I had green Bay plus the points against Minnesota and the earlier rounds.

32:03I don't think Minnesota is all that good. They just play super slow and it makes the games look better than they, they really are, but I think UCLA is going to roll them. And then I laid eight and a half with LSU because I just think they're going to kill Duke. I, I've faded Duke several times this season. My numbers haven't been super high on them. I think LSU is going to kill them as well. All right. Tyler, by the way, told us all fairies up 17 units on the women's basketball season. So again, Notre Dame plus the points against Vander tonight laying the chalk, laying the wood, I should say, with LSU and UCLA and their respective games against Duke and Minnesota. Anything tomorrow night? Are you not yet at tomorrow with the women's soups tomorrow night? I've got, let's see, I laid 15 and a half with Texas. I mean, again, we, we talked about this being very top heavy. I laid 15 and a half with Texas. See, I, oh, and Friday night also took the over in the Yukon North Carolina game and then played under 145 and a half in Michigan, Louisville, but I think that number has dropped a few points. So, um, you know, tread lightly there. You caught North Carolina just to clarify as tonight, correct?

33:04You caught North Carolina? Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I missed that one the first time around. All right. No problem there. Okay. Let's go to the men's game. I don't know if you know this Tyler, but they're also playing men's college basketball. A little thing called March. Man is I heard anything tonight in the second half of the sweet 16. Yeah. I like a couple of dogs here. I heard Kelly earlier say that he liked Michigan State. I am also on Michigan State tonight. Um, I've got St. John's beating Duke outright. So I'm going to take the six and a half with them. And then I also like the under in the Duke and St. John's game. I played at 142 and a half. I think now it's about 140 and a half. My projection on that is 136 and a half. So I think there's still some value there at 140 and a half. Nothing on Bam and Michigan. Nothing on Tennessee. Iowa State. Steering clear. Uh, yeah. As of, as of right now. Okay. What about the, uh, the two elite eight games that we know already, where the Alina or touchdown favorite seven point favorites against Iowa, who they beat by six earlier this year. Uh, and then Arizona and Purdue, the Wildcats favorite by five and a half in that one

34:06two game. Yeah. I, I just put this out today this morning on visa.com. I'm going to lay the points with Illinois and that's the only bet I have right now for the elite eight. Only bet so far. Um, the T shoe index, uh, I, I'm sure it delves into this kind of thing. We just talked about Yukon and women's hoops. Who is your team when you run simulations on here? What's your team to win it all here on the men's side? Yeah. I mean, I picked Arizona in my bracket. I mean, I'll, I'll be honest. I really just don't do a whole lot of bracket stuff because I'm so inundated in the day to day betting of the, of the tournament, especially with men's and women's going on simultaneously. So, you know, take that for, for what it's worth. Uh, I, I definitely don't put as much time into my bracket as I do my day. Really best, but I do have Arizona winning it all. That's what I thought I would hear. Thank you, Tyler. Appreciate it so much. Thanks for the time. Yes, sir. Thank you, guys. Tyler Shoemaker, everybody at T shoe index on Twitter and again, T shoe index, not just a Twitter handle, but also his, uh, his rating system. I, I do think about Arizona, man.

35:08You know, I had him. I had Florida beating them in my Megapod bracket. Is that still alive? By the way, Florida beating Arizona in the finals. Um, it's not, I, I do think, sorry, Florida fans. I do think the, uh, the muscle memory of Arizona just never seeming to get there, right? Since 1997, right? Never just always no matter the potential, never getting there. And then the Tommy Lloyd bias, meaning the anti Tommy Lloyd bias that I seem to have. I think I got to get over it. This team is, this team feels like Michigan will have something to say about this as we'll do. But they feel like they're cut above right now. We were talking about it off air. It's hard to separate some of those shooting percentages from just, you know, what they really were last night. They, they looked really good. Kill really. I'm with you. Markets. I just played no day whatsoever. Yeah. There's also that's a terrible matchup for them. Arkansas. They, uh, by the way, I'm going to encourage everybody to go to, uh, whatever local sports news outlet you use to read up about the NBA tanking solutions, because there is no way in hell. And I are going to be are explaining them on a radio show. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

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38:16Kill Alexander, Kelly Binlin. We do have a tank of blues of play, massive one coming up later on the show. Kelly just mentioned, or I just mentioned, Kelly just sort of piled on there at the end of the last segment about these three new tanking proposals by Adam Silver in the NBA. Let's bring in Nick Whale. Nick Whale, of course, co-host to prop points, which he does every day here with Jeff Erickson. Nick joins us now. You can follow him at Whalen, just substitute the number one for the letter L, Nick and Kelly both. If you could just, I'm just going to read through these three proposals as quickly as I can, just to show, just to just express how I'm a shook into this is. So it's three proposals to combat tanking. They have one thing in common, bringing teams that make the playoffs into the lottery process. Yeah. Okay. First proposal. This is a told to Shams Charania. 18 teams. That means the bottom 10 that missed the play in tournament and the eighth that do play in the play in tournament or the qualify for the plan, all will be part of the lottery. The bottom 10 that are out will have an equal 8% chance of moving up the lottery. So that's what 80% total with the remaining 20% of the odds being split among the eight

39:20play in teams in descending order, 11 through 18. Okay. All right. Great. Sure. Sure. Sure. Does it really? I don't know. I don't know. Second proposal. 22 teams. The bottom 10 that missed the playoffs, the play in tournament teams and four teams that lose in the first round will all be included in the lottery ranked according to the record across two seasons, which I guess is how the WNBA does it. Nick is sick. Look at Nick's face. And then the last one, wait, the two season one, because Nick, I'm sure you heard about this one too. If the two season ones have been talked about it, I've hated it always, because I was wondering what they were going to do about just teams tanking for entirety of two seasons, right? Hey, Gil, guess what? They can only be so bad. That's right. There's a cutoff line. Like, somehow, if you're under 20 wins, they're just going to mark you as having 20 wins. That's right. There's a total. There's a floor.

40:21There's a floor. Okay. Right. Oh, ready. Well, I'm ready. My brain is breaking. It's like something's wrong, intrinsically. And the third, by the way, is the one you were talking about, Kelly, which is, they call it the five by five method, told to Shamshtarani again, and this one, the same 18 teams from the first proposal. Remember back to that, including the first round losers, the ones that missed the playoffs, the ones in the play. And they'd be in the lottery. The teams with the five worst records would then all have the same odds, right? And then once those five picks are in, there'd be a second lottery for the remaining 13 teams. I can't anymore. Nick. Nick. What do you got? What do you got for us? So overall, guys, I agree with you, Gil. This is all way too complicated, right? This is a greater problem with the NBA right now. And it all comes back to, you know, promoting the level of competition, right? So now we have whatever decision they make among these three options. These appear to be the three choices that will eventually be voted on.

41:23They're all complicated. They're all confusing. You feel like you have to be completely locked in on the NBA. You have to be doing math to figure out, you know, exactly how this is going to work. The play in tournament is already complicated for for casual NBA fans. The in season tournament is still complicated. Who's in every pool? Which games actually matter for this? You know, what are the tie breakers? Why are we actually doing this overall just so the players could get some more money? All star weekend has become complicated. You have no idea what the all-star game looks like until it arrives every single year. The issue right now, I think overall, guys, is that teams are becoming a little too smart as far as their long-term building process. And they're basically saying, look, if I don't feel like I have a top three or top four roster in my conference, what's the point? What's the point of being the Toronto Raptors bouncing somewhere between the five and the seven seed in the Eastern Conference all season? You know, maybe we could steal a playoff series, but we're not making it through the conference. If we don't really feel like we have a chance going into game one of the season to win the NBA title, what's the point? That's the problem that the NBA has been dealing with, I think, going back 15 years now,

42:25right? When we started to see some teams say, well, we don't really feel like we could beat the Miami Heat. We don't really feel like we could beat the Kevin DeRae at Warriors. What's the point of even trying? So the NBA, I think, is still trying to undo a lot of the super team effects from 10 or 15 years ago. I don't love any of these guys, but I'm also not going to sit here and say, I have this magical solution. I will say, Kelly, I would you on the two-year model, I know that the WMBA has had some level of success with this WMBA also plays far fewer games. So taking is just much less of an issue in that league than it is in the NBA. I don't think that really solves anything because to me, the bigger issue is these teams that are tanking for two or three years in a row, right? If you're the Utah Jazz, this is business as usual. You're going to be tanking for multiple years anyway. You want to make sure you're getting those best odds over multiple seasons. So I don't really think that disincentivizes the main problem, which is these teams that are in a rut for several years in a row. I think fans can deal with their team tanking for one year, but you don't want to be the wizards. You don't want to be the jazz. Yeah. And you were saying off air, you don't even mind tanking, right?

43:26That was your headline. No. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I get it. I know there are a lot of loud voices right now. I know it's certainly something that Adam Silver is sensitive about. They're taking these steps and doing it so immediately. It clearly, they abuse it as a problem. Some things where it's like the people that complain to me about tanking are the casual NBA fans. I'm still fired up to watch a jazz grizzlies game. You know what? I want to see what a spaley could do when they hand up 41 minutes in late March. But I do think it's more of a kind of immediate narrative thing. There's just no magical solution. You know, when you play an 82 game season, they're going to be bad teams. They're just are. There's no magical world in which every team wins between 30 and 50 games that you have, you know, parity among 30 and soon to be 32 teams. Like, why do we not talk about this in baseball guys? Like we make fun of the Colorado Rockies. We'll make fun of the white socks, but it doesn't, it doesn't feel like it's this, you know, league wide crisis. It's a great point. And I've known players on one of those teams and I can tell you, like by July, they are so checked out. Yeah. I just think it's, it's, it's when you're comparing to what, I don't want to say I like

44:29tanking, but like I'm, I'm more okay with what we're currently going through than the like making a way to complicated solutions and Brian Windhorse keeps saying the saying it's a great point. They've already redone the NBA draft lottery like eight times since it was invented. Yep. I'm going to address the same issue, but as long as that there is, there is a prize at the end of the road for losing teams of any kind, there's always going to be incentive for these teams to do this. So I just, I don't, I don't think anything is really going to change and I don't think this helps. Yeah. And not every year has this right bounty of players that needs to be said to, yeah, not every year does. Yeah. Kind of just flares up every once in a while. It will flare up though time and time again. And you can't do the two year thing. It makes absolutely right. Like the wizards, the wizards, the jazz like this is like a five year operation. They don't even think about operating. This is great for those teams. I love that. 10 games in the association tonight. What did you land on? Benning wise. Yeah. I'll run through a few spots here guys. So Clipper's Pacers is our first game of the night in Indiana.

45:32You know, both these teams should be relatively healthy. Pacers appear to be playing their remaining dudes tonight did cover against the Lakers the other night. Orlando straight up before that hung in with the Spurs like when they have their guys when they have Siacum and Eastmith and Nemhard. They're not a terrible team. They also do not play any defense. So I think this is a spot where I would look at some props on the Clipper side of things. We shouldn't see Kauai out there. But I do like Darius Garland over 26 and a half points plus a sis. He's gone over that number in seven of his last nine games averaging closer to 30 and a half points plus a sis in that span. And then I'm looking at the Celtics tonight to cover five and a half at home against the Atlanta Hawks. Now, this is contingent on the injury reports because Derek White, Jalen Brown and Nemis Cata all questionable for Boston, boost of it. Of course, out. But look, the Hawks have been the hottest team in the NBA. I think you have to run a little bit of an audit as far as who they've played over the last month. I know they're coming off of a nice overtime win against Detroit Detroit, of course, did not have a cutting him in that game. But you look at their wins over the last month, guys, Memphis, Golden State, Dallas,

46:34Orlando, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Dallas again, Philly, Milwaukee, Portland, Washington, Washington, the list goes on when they've run into quality teams, they have not looked good. They've lost to Houston. They've lost to Miami. They've lost to Charlotte twice. They've lost to Minnesota in that span. A lot of those games were lopsided. So I think this is a spot where I would take Boston, if even two of those three end up playing, especially Jalen Brown. All right. So a contingent play on the Celtics, but you are on the Pacers plus the points. More so on the Garland prop, but I do think the Pacers can hang around. I think this will be a competitive game. So it's not an official play on the Pacers plus points. Okay. Anything else? You know, what spot I would look at is Pelicans Rappers, where we have Trey Murphy questionable. We have Dejante Murray, unlikely to play on the second night of a back-to-back. Pelicans lost to Detroit last night. You know, they've actually been the better team compared to Toronto in terms of net rating over the last 10 games. This is still more of a prop spot for me, though, with the Murray absence. I would look at Zion Williamson over 24 and a half points, plus assists. The assist numbers have been down for for Zion since Dejante Murray returned, but I

47:36think this is a good match up for Zion Raptors run teams off the three-point line. He, of course, does not shoot three, so I think he can get into the paint. And then we'll look at Sadik Bay, as well, over 23 and a half points, plus rebounds. If Trey Murphy does not play, he tends to be the guy who benefits most from a usage and from a rebounding perspective. Nick, we look forward to hearing you, Jeff, on prop points after our show today at 1 PM Eastern 10 AM Pacific. And thanks for your thoughts on the three-taking proposals. Appreciate it. Yeah. We'll be doing a full hour on NBA taking on prop points in it. That's right. Thank you, Nick. Appreciate it very much. Darling Cup's still to come. JVT's still to come. We've got to look at NBA MVPs, getting kind of interesting, and our take up a loser play next. Few things are as uplifting as the greatest moments in sports, and nothing brings us together quite like Team USA at the Olympic Winter Games. From NBC Universal's iconic storytelling to the innovative technology across Exfinity and Peacock, Comcast brings the Olympic Games home to America, sharing every moment with millions.

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