A Numbers Game | March 26, 2026 | Hour 3

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1:02The numbers told this story. It's one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game. With Gill Alixander gone, we send our numbers three of a numbers game. It beats in the sports venue. Now we're a decent.com game. Plus I hard radio, YouTube TV, series sexive channel 158. Gill Alixander on the heels of Joe Sheen followed by Dr. Bob. Bob in a filibuster with all of his college basketball plays. Once again, for those who missed it, Bob is on Houston tonight, half-unit play on Purdue and then he leans, but no plays on both Arizona and Iowa. Good to hear for those of us who are taking Iowa and survivor that at least he leans that way. We get tweets beating the book. This is from prime time Leon Sanders who says, yo, hey man, I get why Dr. Bob dislikes the pioneer thing. Would your brother like to be referred to as a kind of stogo wagon driver? No, they are doctors. It shows respect for the love of Todd Wishnive Sashem. Bees in love. This is Doug Tuttle who says, tailed you on Gore, Si Young, also tailed

2:02Mitch Moss on Trevor Roger's side. Added Peralta, most wins at 50 to one and loud most triples at 15 to one as well. Stu McGoo has got his survivor picks quantified. Thank you for that. He says, uh, based on his percentages, feels like Iowa is a trap play. No trap, Stu McGoo, no trap, proper play for me. Tim Bowers, Dr. Bob bringing the heat, Ryan Hyatt fact, perhaps the greatest Dr. Bob segment on visa, ever for Gil management may force him to claim that segment. It's vacation time. Great stuff, guys. And Colin Murphy. You can't be remotely upset if Dr. Bob picks don't hit. Those were some great A breakdowns. Even if I like the other side of the day of those games, I could not bet against what I just listened to so thorough. Colin, that is the point of the Bob segments as thorough as it gets. And the research and not only the research, but the modeling of all this stuff. No one does deeper dives into college basketball. And for that matter, pro basketball

3:02back in the day, pro football, college football and the great Dr. Bob. That said, Kelly's behind the glass because it's time for unscripted with the crackman, Mill Krakenberger. Let's go. Kelly, good morning. Good morning, sir. Nothing like opening day baseball. I know yesterday officially we have a bunting out here. You see this behind you? I see what what am I looking for? The bunting. It's with the sort of like the draped over American stars and stripes there on the sea. Yeah, like yeah, certain stadiums have. Well, I know they're doing some stuff down there for the A's. There's a lot of people are from media, an opening day for the A's. And you know, it's still amazing. Some people think that the A's are not coming. Some people still believe that. Yeah. They're building the stadium. I mean, they're building this. What do they build it for? I mean, but look, let's just look at Cincinnati today. Look at that. Look at Cincinnati today.

4:03Look, look, just look at opening day festivities. Look at look at how beautiful that is. Yeah, it's just the reds just and I've been there. I did a Fox show from there. It's a unbelievable area there where the stadiums are. And it's just so cool. Cincinnati's beautiful because it's right on the river there. Yes. Overlooking Kentucky. Beautiful area there for for the great America's small park as we call it. Yeah, just Americana. What a Cincinnati as it was pointed out by a tweet earlier. Remember, when we were kids, they would always have the opening day. Oh, okay. I don't remember that. So in other words, that was opening day baseball. It was always a Cincinnati reds who had opening day. And then that shifted through the years when TV contracts came off ESPN would start doing opening nights on the nights and the world evolved. In my opinion, this is a better Thursday than last Thursday. You have, I just seen golf on out there, but you have baseball, you have sweet 16. You know, when it really counts, I mean, this is a great, this is a great couple days. It's great. I agree with you. It's awesome. I don't know last Thursday still. Yeah,

5:04that was pretty pumped up. How about the people that were yelling behind us at 10 and Kelly, also first, first to 10, yes, first to 15. You know, I looked, I started looking, I did not look before then. I started looking a little bit after that. So the South Point, I went to the South Point for games and they were screaming and yelling for first 15 Tennessee played. I think Miami and there was Miami, Ohio. So they were screaming and yelling for the underdog. And it just happened. Tennessee actually won it in the last second, like 15 13 or so. And the room was silent. I'm talking about thousands of people were upstairs. They had a showroom upstairs where I watched the games, which was excellent. It was like walking into the 80s. I got a dollar for things two dollars. It was like, it almost ran me to the masters where you go for food. It's still a dollar for a Pimento sandwich. So, but I started looking then and I did not look before that. I'm saying, wow, one person stood for Tennessee and the rest of them were all

6:07upset. They all had the dogs. So then I run into Vinnie and Vinnie says, Bill, the great Vinnie Mahila. We can't get any money on the favorites. Yeah. Everyone's betting the dog. We have guys coming up and 500 on every single dog. Now I look into the bright Vinnie. You don't know this till right now. I thank you because I didn't look into that market until Vinnie said it. So now I look Southpoint. They're forced on the favorites to have like minus a dollar 50 when it's minus 210 at the shops that I respect. Wow. One was minus 22 to whoever was 30 point favorite that day was minus six to one there. It was minus 20 to one. Actually, not 22, 20 to one at bed MGM plus 10, the one plus 10, 50. I was just like, you know, I'm not even going to scalp these. This is the wrong price. And just so happens that I actually went seven and oh, thanks to Vinnie betting the favorites and all the favorites. Now at great price. The next day. Yeah. The next day is a little

7:07different. Not so much. The next day I started out four and two. Even though I was four and two, I was down. I better dime on each one. I was down 2000. I was mad. Oh, they were giving a dime on those. Dime at the counter. Nickel on the app. Still right now. Nickel on the app dime at the counter. I was down the next day. I got a little taste of it. Duke. I laid 200 on Duke where literally it was minus 300 or 280 and Duke didn't. And then another one. I said, oh, that would happen. I was I was I was I usually never get mad, but that's I was just mad at that all the public screaming and yelling and and I was like, all right, this is my lesson with this. But I wanted to break it even for the day. Yeah. But I didn't I did good the first day. But thanks to Vinnie, I wouldn't even look at that market first of 15. But that's that's it's a beautiful thing. By the way, we always give J Rude credit for being the first guy to put up those first of 15s. You used to do it. Yeah. Yeah. You used to do it. It was always like 10, 12 years ago. It was always this weird thing or only a few people knew about it. There was this this little murmur that would go up after Vinnie. But I love everything about that story because it's exactly

8:09how things should go, right? The public should play a dog up to 10 to 15, right? Because it's a small sample size. Sure. You could get the plus money. But then the books adjust accordingly. And so you then find the value. They need it money on the favorite. Yeah. But then I thought about it too. I admit it. I thought about something the next day when I got a couple in the next day and that I didn't get any in the second portion of the day or even the day after the day after that Sunday. I didn't have a single play. And I said, could it be possible someone at the top point said, what are we doing? Why are we giving crack a murder 7,000? Yeah. What are we doing? Just let us just keep the money on it. I don't know. You know, that's a hypothesis. My brain. But it was a good it was good while I lasted. And I wouldn't have known about that. So, but I knew everyone was screaming and yelling for the first of 15, but it all started here. And I talked about your show here. Yeah. With many different I talked about it on so many different networks about how we were sitting here. And people were screaming for the first 10. That's really made

9:13me look at it first. But then when I went over the South Point and seen people, you know, screaming and yelling for and then when I seen that Tennessee game and only one person standing up and going to cash in, I said, what wait a minute? That one guy won. Everyone else, the whole room got quiet. I was like, wait, I got to look. I'm going to look at the American now. All of a sudden, they were speaking your language. I'm telling you was minus 20 to one. I laid six to one. Yeah. On, you know, that's fantastic. Yeah. And by the way, Vinny, the great Vinny Maliulo over there, who the funny, I will say, first of all, I haven't spoken to Vinny in a long time. I think Vinny's upset with everything. But he, I love how Chrissy by my book after all these years of knowing Vinny, he still mispronounces Maliulo because Vinny Maliulo after all these times. I text Chris yesterday. Yeah. You know, like, I text him on his phone and he must get tired of me texting him. But this, this, this text, well, I'll, cause I'll text him nine at night. Yeah. I said, my text yesterday. I said, I'll see if I can find Chris. I said, Hey, Chris, for some reason, okay. I did some interviews yesterday. I said, did you guys go back to 10cent lines? It sure does look like it.

10:17Well, I hope I didn't get that wrong. I just gave that to a reporter and he text me back just a one word answer. I don't want. Yep. I'm Limes in baseball, minus 105 on hoops. I mean, what a great promotion. 105 minus 105 on sweet 16 sides. Yeah. And five cent baseball is back. Did you know this? I did not know that five cent baseball back. I was like, wait, I'm looking at some of his lines. And I'm like, minus 150, come back 140. I said, do we, do we go, do we finally get 10 cent lines back in town? I'm not, I'm not speaking for anybody. I'm not speaking for my mishpoko, cause I haven't spoken to him about this. This is me, just my opinion. Yeah. What I think, I think going away from the dime lines there was dictated from above. Yes. And I think the above, if you will, finally got smart. I think the volume went down. Yes. I think so. And they finally were like, you know what, we, maybe they admitted they were wrong. Finally, internally. And they're like, we need to go back to today.

11:17It's a point giving example. Philly's verse, Texas Philly's minus $1.55 come back plus $1.45. Yeah. There is not one sports book in town that has that juice. Nope. You know, not one sports book in town. So I'm looking at, I'm looking at a sports book right next to it, minus 155, the same way, come back $1.30. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come back $1.30. Now, I got to tell you, how can you beat that juice? No. How can you beat that? This is, and you know what? And you know what? Like the prediction markets, like a Novik, minus one 16 plus one 14 last night on the Giants. Wow. Wow. So I mean, just think about it. Explain to people how that works on that. They pay 1% commission on top of that. Now you're getting me into. Okay. I'm sorry. Because because each one of those is a different. Oh, it is. Okay. Because even if it's two cent juice, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, oh, I listen, I'm very happy to see. I did not know this happens. So there was stations and, and South Point stations went, went, followed everyone else. And this all happened because of the big sports books that came to

12:18the country conditioning America to laying 20 cents on baseball. When we laid 10 cents forever at every single sports book in town. So that's a shame. Thank you to South Point for the five cent line. Oh, which reminds me, which we'll talk about after the break as we had a commercial, which reminds me of, remember that promotion we all ran to at Virgin last year. Yes. They didn't do that this year. Did they? I think they they they sold the book. They got that they're done. That's right. Well, I'm talking about that on their side. I'm scratching with the crack band Bill Crackenberger. I feel crack man with the cake on Twitter. Coming back on a numbers game at least. You're here because you want an edge. That's what separates listeners from winners. But let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bets home pros win because they've got the tools, the data and the discipline. And now so can you be some programs you access to the same real time insights the sharps use no secrets no fluff just actionable info that moves markets tap the link and see why serious betters are turning knowledge into profit with visa and pro.

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15:28work, fellas. Happy opening day. Makes me smile every time to A. Andrews. Winding streak. Winding streak is with me. Bill, he says I have to disagree with crack last Thursday. He lectured. No, it wasn't lunch. I just said now it's less, it's less, it's less craziness, less of a crowd. Yeah. And just baseball. I love, I love baseball. I love baseball. Montreal max all hail the dime line return as that has been my biggest beef as these new books use wide lines and all things to gouge the public and regulators should be focusing on that as a priority one and dealing tight lines for years always gave the betters a shot. Yes. But as you said, Bill, like how are you supposed to beat minus 155 from a grand day rolling over in his grave, max answer, that is you have dime lines up to a dollar 80 and made millions of dollars, millions of millions. If he can do it, why can't everyone else? They could, but they just choose not to remember all his offshores in the 90s, like bet Jamaica. Yes. Line lines up to minus 190. The spirit was in the hall. I got put on the hall of fame this year and he owned bet Jamaica. Yep. And yeah, he had dime lines. And this was, I'm just

16:30was the video I put up last week. I mean, look at the food menu. $2 a dollar, $2. Everything's two bucks. I mean, over at South Point. I mean, that's the way it should be. And they have over 3,000 people there. But the one I want to talk about, I went through every single sports book, but well, every single sports book that I think counts. I was here, South Point, the win, and I was in like, like I said, in Westgate. So I put this one up last week. It was $12,000. I told you to rent that spot. The guy had 25 guys. I thought it was worth it. I just went there now to check. It's 4,000 for today. Well, you can eat and drink 25. You could bring 20 of your friends there comfortably. Yeah. I think it's worth it. It's a great spot to watch games. $4,000. Well, you can eat and drink for 20 people. I just thought it was fantastic. The win, really, I was there to the win. Just a classy, classy place. I went through the win. Yeah, I went there when the other day. I just thought it was, I love the win. It's beautiful. The win sports book. Absolutely beautiful. I put a tweet up though. So that I went to the win two days later.

17:34Here, sports books across America are loving this and bills bills swipe it off calls. Right. Action only minutes, but for tip off, there was a hundred people. Oh, look at that. That's outside the sports book goes into the sports of 100 people online at 830. Game start at nine. And I thought about it. That says something. He's right. You know how hard it is to win at that time with 30 minutes to go right before tip off. Right before tip off. Yeah. I think it's a really hard time to win and just just looking at that. Now, look at this one. John Mahalfi put this up. This is a freebie, by the way, over at circus, circus. Of course, you may catch hepatitis, but it doesn't matter. You know, it's it's a it's freebie. Look at the cows. Just make it a rash. Other than that, this is like how can they put the car? I mean, what do they do went over there? I didn't even know that I couldn't believe that circus circus. That circus circus. They put these couches out. Yeah. And um, after further investigation, these are literally from 1975,

18:38I think when, um, which is named on Jay, Jay Sarno on the joint. I mean, but yeah, but it's free. And there was was the last time you walked into circus circus. Uh, believe it or not, last year, I went to dinner there at the steakhouse. And it was I couldn't believe how good it was. Because the steakhouse is called the steakhouse. I went all your tests were negative afterwards. Yes. Well, the steakhouse is such a classy place. Believe it or not, still is. That was a top joint 30 years ago. And Ronnie, the mater D, still there. I think he's 34 years. He's still there on Saturday and Sunday. Same mater D. Steakhouse is so good. You're literally sitting in a pit almost. They're cooking in the bottom. You can watch them cook around the bar. Cook your steak. Flame broth flames up. And the greatest sides, the mushrooms are great. The steak was great. I talked good and bad about places. So I'll tell you right now, the steakhouse is still fantastic. Just speaking of talking good and bad, the Durango. I was over at the Durango with John Orlando.

19:41And he was he was there for the couple of the games. And what a great, great building. These four to seal a ceiling windy windows. There's a restaurant there overlooking the sports book. The George, maybe it is sports, but it's very cool too. What a great spot to watch games. And there's indoor outdoor seating. Just a great spot. I mean, even though I'm not all at the bed on the app, it doesn't matter. I give you the good points of it. Perfect example. Arizona, who they play Utah State, I believe, Utah State. There were 11 and a half point favorite at game time, almost everywhere except for stations. There were 12 and a half. What do you think I landed on? Lamb against 12. 12. So it's good to have them in your repertoire. Right now, if you're betting underdogs, it's always good to have stations in your arsenal. I want to give a shout out to Steve Zeben. Steve Zeben, who if you lived in Washington, D.C., the D.C. Maryland Virginia area for as many years as he was on. He's the greatest, greatest sports radio

20:47personality in the history of Washington, D.C., I would say. And then he was in Milwaukee for many years after that. He was beloved there as well. He was also a national radio in between as well. But Zeben, he does a Zebcast podcast. He was in town. He was kind enough to have me on the podcast with his friend, Armin and Mr. X as well. But I bring them up not because they're all great guys and they were kind enough to have me on. But because they are also lovers of Las Vegas as people who don't live here, right? And they also lament how corporations have taken over and how this Vegas gone by is this thing we all sort of still chase. And so I just, you know, for those listening to you and they're like, wow, these guys are all talking about it. It's people, it's not just people who live here, right? People, people still live for the nostalgia of what it used to be. And so every little looking cranny that you can point out that it's still great. I try to do that. Yeah. I try to point those things out. You know, it's funny. The corporations, they want to get away. They don't want no one to know that the mob was involved here. They don't want anyone to know

21:48that they used to give away comps out of a handwritten book. They don't want no one to know that kind of stuff. Yeah. They're getting away from that. They want everyone to pay for their meals, pay for their drinks, pay for their show tickets, pay for their rooms. I just think that casino corporations themselves, they just don't take care of people like they used to. And it's simple. I know I'm a broken record. I think we all are. It's because of the mentality of people that come in and run the places that don't gamble. They've never gambled before. They come from, you know, college with nice, they're nice fancy degrees on the wall. And they just expect people to spend money and pay for things. And also they expect you to be a sucker. They expect you to lose your money and laugh and have fun and leave. You know, it does happen in Las Vegas compared to Atlantic City. Atlantic City is, you know, I'm going to even say Baltimore. It's a different crowd there. They come in their day trippers. They come in there. They expect to win. So it's a tough for crowd. Being a dealer in Atlantic City compared to

22:51Las Vegas. Las Vegas must be so much easier is you realize that how much easier it is to be a dealer here. There. Sometimes you're getting cursed dead. I mean, they curse you out if you look because they expect to win. They're going there to win. They're there for the day. They're not staying. They may not even go for a meal. They're not going to see a show. They're coming in to win. They're going to gamble to try to make money to pay a bill. Imagine that. Imagine what I'm saying. I went to a dentist recently. And the hygienist said to me, you know, Bill, I, you know, should they know me in there? My sister, whenever the things are tight, she tries to go to the local casino on Boulder Highway. And she tries to play video poker, a keynote to get the bills paid. No, but I think about that. I'm not making fun of her. No, I know, you know, I think about that. And think about how sad that is. How much that goes on closet gambling wise. That goes on all the time. These are all things. Casinos don't want me to say, Bill, my God, this cracker burger he's talking about. He's going to hurt her. I'm not going to

23:54hurt the ones bottom line. Oh, I'm doing this telling you that with that kind of mentality, you have no chance to make your bills by playing negative EV games. Only there is a chance you make a score and you can make that kind of a, and you can pay your 15. You mentioned it. She said, yeah, she won 1500. She was able to pay some of the bills. I don't know at this point in my life. Here we sit middle of 2026. I don't even tell him anymore. I say, oh, it's a shame. I hope she does well. That's all. There's no one saying, well, she shouldn't do this because of this, because there's no one even saying that. Bill and even as you and I have talked about ad nauseam, and even if we say it 1000, no matter, that's why it doesn't matter. The parlace doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Everyone's going to play parlace. Even though the book take my oldest friend, I told you, hey, I went six and one this. What do you mean you went six and one? You never, you never make bets. He goes, oh, I subscribe to the service. Like my oldest friend in the world, right? He's a dentist, right? It's the equivalent of me going to the, to a guy

24:54on down the street corner from him. And I'm like, hey, can you yank out this tooth for me? And me saying to Tommy, me being like, oh, yeah, I just got my tooth yanked out down the street from me on the street corner. You don't mind, do you? It just, it's people are going to bet how they want to bet. They're going to bet how they want to bet. They want to make scores. I get it. Yeah, man. Coming back, Bill Krakker, by the way, the name of his podcast is Wise Cracks. Does it it with John Orlando? They did a great job. Coming back on a numbers game right here. Unmatched transparency with records updated daily, AI betting analysis, real-time global betting information and alerts directly from the pros. We invite you to check out charplays.com, scan the QR code for more on your screen charplays.com. We get tweets from the book. Two drinks in. Wow. What a segment with Dr. Bob. I now need another cup of coffee. Yeah, he was great. Matt Trudeau. Gilass Krakk, if he has future baseball picks,

25:56sorry, if I missed it in the first, I would last year, I tailed him on the Red Sox bets he made when at the hard rock in Florida, plus 125 or plus 225. But we cashed. Thanks, Krakk, man. Anything? Basically, I'm trying to think what I, but I, um, I guess that was the Red Sox. Maybe he seen me down there. I don't know if he's saying he's seen me that day there because I've seen a couple of people. It's amazing, Gil. Again, yeah, I want to tell you, it's amazing the outreach that this program has in South Florida and a lot of South Florida peeps. It's unbelievable. Yeah. How many people come up to me about Visan? Not that showtime, not Fox. It's Gil. Those casinos there, yeah, they have a lot of a lot of your people are there. And even Louisiana, I went to Louisiana. I went to New Orleans, the Harris there and drove two hours for a promotion to another casino. I don't know the name of it, but it was really nice to casino. At the middle of nowhere, you're in the middle of Louisiana swamps and this giant building comes out of nowhere. Wow. It almost reminds me of like Barona in California, driving these windy hills and all of a sudden,

26:58this beautiful mega resort comes out of nowhere. But I was in Louisiana. Literally, uh, two or three people come up to me and say, Hey, we'll watch you on. Don't mind me. I'm sorry to say this live. Are you on YouTube TV? Yes. Yes, it was YouTube TV. Yeah. Nice to know that I know about all these things. Um, but yeah, and they were just so nice. And I, and I, people asked you for winners, and I just try to tell them, this is one of the one, but I, you know, I'm going to lose 40, if you're out of 100, try to tell them. And I ran lucky down there with them. So maybe that's what he's talking about. Or it's the Red Sox. I gave out some futures of Red Sox and twins, I would think I'm going to all DM that person. Okay. Yeah. Um, I think I think it's, it's an efficient market now. There's no, I'm not going to give nothing out. And, and, um, you're betting into a market where, uh, season winds and losses right now, though, uh, I would think it's pretty efficient. And like, I know Fez and a lot of the guys run the pirates over. Well, it moves six games. The pirates went regular season winds. There's only one way to play now,

28:01I think I, you can't bet over, I don't know the number. Let's say it was 80 and a half. And now it's 84 and a half. I don't think it's that high though. You can't tell someone that went over 80. And now it's going over 87. The only thing you could do is bet the under, in my opinion. Yeah. There's no value on the over. Physically, and I had this conversation about the pirates, right? The pirates started out 74 and a half. Oh, I think it was the pirates. Yeah. I don't know why I said that. There he goes. 78 and a half. And I asked Fez at the time. I'm like, when is the buyback? And he literally, he literally sent us where within an hour of first pitch with the pirates, he literally said he goes right before the game. The first game starts. Wow. Is the buyback? Yeah. So there's no, because he really believed in that momentum. Yeah. There's, there's, there's really right now, there's, uh, you know, when it becomes pretty profitable, do you do this at all? I don't know. I don't think they do this here at circa. I don't even know if they do it at what there are sportsbooks. I know MGM does it after the day is over. They put up season ones and all the all the teams again. And every day, they'll have an adjusted season one price. I don't know

29:05what other sportsbooks do that. Oh, so listen, listen, this was a thing. Well, we did primetime action a map around Kelly and I. And I remember the first time they put out Kelly will remember is the first time they put out, I think it's draft Kings that put out adjusted and it definitely does. Yeah. NFL adjusted season windtotal draft Kings and they can handle also before like 2020. Right. No one did that. Yeah. They put up the season windtows before the season ended. Yes. They were taken off. And once the season started, you never saw that, you know, it was great at the enemy. I think seizures does too. I'm not sure, but I know that they do that. But you're right. They never did that. But my point is is we become so normalized to these markets that didn't exist a minute ago. Like they there was 2019. These did not exist. Right. And I used to say people will remember who've listened to this show, listen to the podcast for as long as, uh, you know, into the last decade, I used to say I'm involved in this off the grid stock market like a season wind total thing, which originate, which originated at Lehman Brothers. Yes. No names. And there was an

30:07NFL adjusted season wind market. There was an adjusted college football season market in typical stock market fashion. It was a buy sell market. So they're really sharp market makers doing it. So it was really tough to beat. It was, but it was phenomenal. And then legalized sports books, really just within the last six, seven years did it. All this stuff, right? Season winds in general. You know the story. Sure. 1989. The concept of season winds did not exist. And for those who have heard this story, pardon me for repeating it, but Jimmy Vicaro is at whatever casino he was at at the time. And remember the cowboys are supposed to suck. And this was the year that they ended up going a one in 15. And before, by the way, the only one was against the skins. Um, before that season started, some guy came up to Jimmy Vicaro in a in a cowboy hat set, say, uh, how many wins you suppose the cowboys win this, this year? And Jimmy was like, huh, let me, let me, let me think about that kid. And he came back with the first ever season wind total. This was 1989. This

31:10did not start, you know, and in, you know, after Christ, right? This is not exists from the beginning of time. And we take all this stuff for granted. Yeah. Well, we live in an era where all this stuff now is like, uh, you know, kind of in place. Yeah. Yeah. And like I said earlier, on the early segment, even I'm learning sometimes the first to 15 market, that's something right. It's brand new and it could have been exploited there. I don't know. It's in the last 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. It's in the last 10 years. Um, I didn't know Jimmy came up with that. I didn't see the wind totals. Yeah. Yeah. That's Jimmy Vicaro. Yeah. All Jimmy. You know, I interviewed a pool player, a billionaire's player who I knew when I was a kid. I knew him. He didn't know me. He was a great one of the greats. Um, Rodney Morris. I put him on my podcast and a Hawaiian. He's from, he's from Hawaii and he, uh, he was telling me some of the stories and I asked him about, you know, if a caro put the odds up on these pool billions guys here in Vegas, they came here. It was like a, you know, uh, championship coming to Vegas and Mirage, giant advertisement. Jimmy said, let me put the odds up on the players and he put like,

32:14you know, Johnny Archer, three to one Steve Mizorak, 10 to one, you know, all the different great players, Buddy Hall, 20 to one. These were some of the great players. I used to love billions and pull as you could tell. And every time you bring up Mizorak, I say the same thing. Even even if you're just showing off from that Miller like commercial, like for Miller, you know, and that's, that's the guy I was friends with. I was, because my dad knew his dad and Perthambo and New Jersey. He was a school teacher at once. And I retired to Florida and I, I loved Steve. But, um, so they put the odds up. I know people don't want me talking to them. Oh my god. Don't be talking about this. Oh, Rodney and I talked about it. So I want to talk about it now. Give me the car. I'll decide to put the odds up on the players. And they see, that he's puts all the odds up. The worst player there is an older, older man, Spanish Mike Lebron, you know, all sorts of kids in their 20s. Yeah. And then you have like a couple of other older guys. Miz was 38 and 40. And then you got Spanish Mike Lebron, 58 years old, ancient, 50 to one. Well, you can't put up odds like that and expect pull players to play on

33:24the level. That's right. The 50 to one quickly went to 30 to one, quickly went to 10 to one. And if you watch anyone can look, you can look this up on YouTube. You can watch the Vegas event, buddy halls in the finals, desperately trying to lose to Spanish Mike Lebron. He had like a straight nine ball and a bug got in the way and he miscued or something. Yeah. And uh, Spanish Mike Lebron wins the longest shot in the board. What do you tell you how much money the Mariahs lost? The first bet was a thousand to one 50,000. I know that. So, uh, you know, you can't expect billions players to be on the level. They all got together and said, what are we doing? It's a $100,000 prize pool. There's 20 guys. We each get $5,000. So we split that up 100,000, $5,000 each we get. Now we got that 5,000 guaranteed rooms, food, beverage, great stuff. Let's win some money now in the sports book. That's right. Isn't that an unbelief?

34:24Does it's a story that people don't like to talk about the world of uh, billions doesn't like to talk about. But uh, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy never told that story. Laydowns happen, you know, the pool halls across America have had guys go in and not play good and make themselves look worse. Roddy talked about that on my show. Speaking of which though, John Orlando yesterday, he was in the senior's tournament. He's over 50 now. So looks great. I told him. I said, John, I said, you have to see if the sea is girlfriend. Anyway, um, I said, John, how, so you're in the senior's tournament here for 400 bucks and you, you did good. You were doing really good. You were in first place for a lot of it. He loves playing poker and poker loves him too, by the way. And he's just looking to make that giant score. Poker's coming here in a couple of months. The World Series of poker. I said, John, what was the rake in the poker tournament? Because I don't know. No. I said, well, John, but you have to know what the rake is. I don't care what the rake is. I said, hold the hold to John. So if there's a 25% takeout, you're still going to play goes,

35:24yeah, of course. Yeah. What does it matter? No, the rake doesn't mean anything. It's, it's unbelievable. How many people don't know the rake or how much, you know, sports betting is four and a half percent parles or double digit. They don't know the household. Just like I didn't, when I was a kid, I would say something. I didn't care going to the race track. I was still betting into the 20% polls. I didn't know. But at this time in your life, John, I'm 10 poker, but he brought up a point. Maybe some of the listeners are on or will agree. He goes, Bill, the world series is bringing people from all over the world to this building. They have to make money somehow. Yeah. I'm the $15 hot dogs. They sell. They sell. That's what I said. You think people are going to be troubled by mathematics. That's right. It's like what's the, what's the ace of the biggest runner? So you say goes, Bill, there's no juice if it wins. Right. There's no juice. It wins. That's an old saying, right? There's no juice if it wins more with crack on the other side. Numbers can't be seen. These sports betting never. Few things are as uplifting as the greatest moments in sports. And nothing brings us together

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38:49First off, so the first week of March, man, this I was 16 and six on my releases, which is good. But the reason why I'm saying this, I use a combination of you. Ask me sometimes about this. Like Billy, you don't do your own work anymore. You have other people do it for you and you based on that. So I have three sources for college basketball, one of which is Alan Boston. I will take his stuff into consideration. And rarely I will bet against him. But sometimes I do. If my other sources is strong enough to be against him. So Alan, I did two podcasts, which went very well. Lots of views. And he was view is successful. He was nine and five on his first podcast with me. He just did another one with me. Randy did one yesterday with me too on college hockey, which he's very good in college. Randy did one on college hockey games or Thursday and Friday. Great stuff. But I just was thinking about in general, how hard it becomes in later rounds. So like this round, like Alan only had one play.

39:50He had 14 last week, going on to the finals, how efficient that market is compared to early in college basketball season, even early in the dance the first couple weeks. So it gets tougher and tougher. I know people are getting excited for, you know, March madness tonight. And and we're still sweet 16 lead eight down to the final four. I'm just letting people know it gets tougher. And so we're not going to be on. I'm not going to be off another week. It gets tougher and tougher here. Do you remember what Alan's play was by the chance? Alan's this week. I don't okay. I'm sorry. I don't ask. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know Alan and I think Alan and Randy met. I ran to give out a couple only a couple plays too. But it's only a 12 or two minute podcast with Randy. Maybe you guys want to give it a watch. It's very good. So Gil gambling coming to New York, these three casinos that they're going to build here. We talked about it in the space before. They are probably going to be the most successful casinos in the United States. They're going to outdo the hard rocks in Florida. Why? Because the casinos that are in New York

40:53are in the cat skills upstate. It's in the culture. This is I'm going to read from the article here. These they're calling them down. I think I said downstate casinos, but the downstate New York market is significantly significantly under penetrated. There was a strong case for each of the three projects being the top three highest revenue generating casinos across regional gaming and just reading this article. They're expecting about six, five point six billion in revenue. And I just look at this number. And I am, you mentioned responsible gaming before during the break. I have to think that this will be so bad for the public in New York there. These are going to be casinos within a, you know, but by Shae State, I almost say Shae, I did say Shae Stadium. Sorry. It's still Shae Stadium to most. Did he feel? Yeah. Well, someone put up a tweet yesterday about Roddy Dangerfield at Shae Stadium. I was there that day when he's throughout the opening ball, but he still gets no respect. They wouldn't

41:54give him opening day. They too. They let him, they let him throw out the opening ball. So I got to be even a diamond club. He was really so nice, such a nice guy. I wish I got a photo with him, got an autograph, but I had a minute. Well, now I respect them more. I'm more of a Rodney fan now. I was only 16 at the time. Now I'm, I love Rodney now. Love Rodney on, um, on a Johnny Carson. That's my pump up videos, you know, but anyway, going back to these casinos here in New York, like I said, six billion, but, but at what cost to the human race? Because let me be blunt, gambling just might be more addictive than drugs or anything out there, more addictive, hurtful, harmful and pack full. And, and I just, why? Because it's mostly closet gambling. You can't usually look at someone and physically tell if they're a degenerate gambler or, you know, unless there are, there is some actions that, you know, you can see nervous energy, smoking, shaking, cursing, going crazy. But if they look only looked at how much, and this goes

43:01for people now, everyone, if you only wrote down, I'll keep a little journal of how much money you lose gambling every year, you would be shocked. Shocked. How much money? And that's going to, I'm telling you, New York, this, this, like I said earlier, people trying to pay their bills, going to go, going to gamble, they got no chance, no chance, long term. But that, yeah, we got a tweet about responsible gambling, gaming ask us to do 15, 15 minutes on it. We don't, we just do it in the, in the, in the, you know, the course of our conversation. Sure. And again, the point of what we do, the point of what the network does is to try to, as best we can, right, give reasoning for why we are having bets and to, to make it as sharp as possible. That's what, so what I try to do on the show, that's what Kelly and I try to do on the show. Here's why we're betting something here are the reasons why and to the, to the extent that it resonates with people, I think they understand that we are doing it in a sort of cerebral way. You know, with the rare exception of the brain dead partly, because we're, we're sure. But yes, what you're saying is absolutely right. Both things can be true. That stuff is, you know, some, I've heard financial

44:04experts say the biggest scourge on American finances is young males gambling. Yes. Because your money is supposed to compound. And if you keep nipping yourself in the bud every time at, at a young age, you are doing exponential damage to your actual net worth. And so it's a big deal. And there's no question is, and I believe I told you I said when Gracie's, when her friends in college are, you know, friends in high school, part of them in college, when they're in the back seat, when I'm driving them around, and then they're like, oh, I've got my plays on prize picks, all that stuff. Yeah, it is concerning. And I will say this. I will raise my hand. If it was that available to me at that age, I'd be in the same boat. You know, I would be, girl, this, you and I talk from the standpoint of we're not guessing. We've both had these things when we were younger. I'm going to say meeks. I really don't. I was a losing gambler. Yeah. How many times I took that ride from North Jersey down to Atlantic City? That's all we had. We had Atlantic City.

45:08We had some racetracks all the way down two hours, make a little bit of a score. When a thousand bucks, I'm driving back thinking how I can get off work tomorrow to go back. And just I can't wait because why shouldn't I be? Why shouldn't I want to go back? It's fun. I'm out of work. I'm having fun and I'm making money. Yeah. You'll actually your brain and your eyes will play tricks on you thinking you could make money in the casino. And I gotta go back. I gotta get back there. I gotta go back. We're, believe it or not, if you look at a psychologist and talk to us from a psychology level, we're actually happier at that age. I was actually happier when I went broke. Now I can go back to work. I could sleep eight hours. I can work. I have no money to gamble until next paycheck. I know what it is. This comes from myself doing it, not just hearing from somebody else. I know I'm sure you weren't as much as of a DJ as I was when I was a kid. I was around a bunch of DJs.

46:08I told you we said it here. We didn't have money to pay the tolls. We ran a gas on the way home. I want people to know that I talk from experience, not just from hearing stories. I know what it's like. I know what it's like to be in the pits there and drive and sometimes when you go dead broke and you're driving home, I've had trips back from Atlantic City. I didn't turn the radio on for two hours. I just thought about what just happened. For two hours, I was playing Sinatra on the way down. Big shot you watch, Charlie. And on the way home, no radio, no nothing. Just saying, Jesus, well, idiot. I am. And I've had those trips. I mean, have you had any of those things from Atlantic City, back to DC, my buddy, Juan passed out the back seat, only able to say, make an egg and cheese. We were making the one stop, right? The toll we would try to we would fly through the tolls, make the noise, shake the rail, stupid like that. Yeah. You were three hours probably, right? That's three hours. Three hours, but in change. Yeah, true. No, I'm just saying.

47:09So you speak from a point of of knowledge. We're not just being dad saying things. It just that both things can be true, right? You can do this responsibly, but there is a side. And you talk about with his New York stuff, you do worry about it. He's going to hurt us. This is low or middle class people trying to, this is really, it's really going to hurt a lot of people. And prediction markets, which I support now, you know, look, hey, people love betting on who's going to get married or not married on love is blind. People like betting on politics. People like betting on will there be an eight point earthquake by the end of the month? I'm just saying people like the war. Yeah, this is unbelievable. Yeah. So it really is. Very good. With the good comes the, the bad sometimes. I'm glad we talked about this stuff. And I know we're gambling that where we still got to talk about everything. So got you. Prop points is next. Nick Wale and Jeff Erickson. And then money moves JVT in the host chair. Enjoy it from Vincent. These sports betting that way. Few things are as uplifting as the greatest moments in sports. And nothing

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