A Numbers Game | January 8, 2026 | Hour 3

0:00This is V-Syn, the sports betting network. The numbers told the story of the Allies down. So one of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game. With Kill Ivexander, gone V-Syn. Our number three of a numbers game with V-Syn, the sports betting network, V-Syn.com Game Plus, Ihar Radio, YouTube TV, Sirius XM Channel 158. However you're taking a sin, I do appreciate it. I'm going to read your tweets first. This is from Uncle Bush. With Trinidad already announcing he's returning to school in Kiffin. Renegging on his loaning his coaches. Do you see a scenario that may be late in the third Miami up to scores? World Miss throws their hands up and says, hey, we had a hell of a run. It's interesting theory. I mean, I guess there is a white flag raising point with all that swirling. I guess you're right. I'm not sure if it's not till very, very late though, but that's interesting to bring that

1:00up. Jason H-11, Gilly's new producer. Max headroom based on Kelly's a hair situation. Wise guy is wager. Ask crack what he's on. Which sportsbook is the best for comps? And which one is the worst? Thanks. He'll have a great show. I will. Chance Copperbot. Oh, talking about posters. I have a good friend in the business travels around a campus to the beginning of the school year. I'm always shocked how fast he sells out. Large format posters of pop stars and pot leaves. So the kids still do posters, I guess. Yeah. Wasn't there like was that fat? What was the name of that company that had those? What was it called? Fat something. I can't remember that. Fat heads. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate it. Mike Grouse. DK has neither team to score 30 points at minus 116. Yeah. Danny Higgins found minus 120 under game props. Then race to 30 points. So the follika. The follika prop was. Minus 120 to clarify. Scott C. At S. Christians in PGA says Gil mentioned the grateful dead two days in a row about west.

2:00Almost like he enjoyed a few shows at RFK or the Oakland Coliseum back in the day. No, I am not a dead head. No. Never never saw me in one of those. Although I did have a friend in college. I didn't see him till Halloween senior year. I was like, T where have you been? He goes, dude, I've been following the dead around. And then New York, New York mess 16 Antonio Pierce isn't he most known for being Gil's neighbor and something about peaches. Am I misremembering? Let's get this right, Scott. It's delicious. Unscripted with the crack man. Let's go. What's up, man? Hey. So I know unscripted, but last night I went through these little, I put little notes to hopefully remind myself of something that I think the public would want to know. And the ones I've missed for the last like six months. Yeah. 47 of them.

3:0146. You'll never get to I mean, 47. Honestly, both most of these will do it after football season. Yeah. Yeah. There's 47 that I didn't go over. I erased the ones, you know, with normal likes someone scripted that I can't believe I had that many notes to myself. You know what I mean? But would you do the thing where you come in here, oh my God, I got so much to talk. Yeah. And that we had ever we want to talk about. You're like, oh, he didn't know what we were talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we did. We just first. We could talk about. So I have Randy in my podcast yesterday. today. Randy McKay. Randy McKay. Who gave us Illinois State? Illinois State. Yeah. What's 10 and a half? What about it? Plus 10 and a half. It went to 10 online. People listened to us right away, bet it before I even said it, knowing it's going to be FCS. They knew the dog and they knew who was betting on my state. And just because of previous bets, went to 10, went back up to 11 and a half at books. I really respect. Oh, I didn't see that went to 11 and a half. I seen a Chris yet. Circus stated 10 most of the time. They went to 10 and a half minus 0 5. But so there was there was someone on the other side or maybe it was just public. That was a it was a Monday night football where there was

4:01no NFL games. So, you know, and you know, it's funny. The only score I've seen was 14 nothing. Then I seen fourth quarter like late into fourth. So it did not look good for the first half. It didn't all look good. It didn't look good. But then they came back good. Nice win. So Randy said something yesterday. Interesting. You know, I've been talking about this for decades, plural. So he likes Houston for this week. He likes them to go to the Super Bowl. Not necessarily win the Super Bowl. Go to the Super Bowl. He worked out the math around the show. It's pretty good. How the roll over compared to the future price. Yeah. So he's laying 155. I think a 150 155. And then each game, how he would get about eight and a half to one or something like that compared to I think it's six and a half to one or something. So it's interesting how that roll over depends on their opponent. You have to sort of anticipate who their opponent might be and what those spreads will be. Right. Right. Right. It's unusual looking over your shoulder. I see a you

5:05in the background there and there. So and a giant. We're on the big screen somehow. Anyway, they let us on the big screen. Yeah. So I find that interesting. It's just I don't know if I can trust the quarterback on Houston. It's but then again, who do you like, like, you know, someone said something every team is flawed. That's right. So a listener said, said to me, well, who, who, who, who's your team? Who do you trust? Do you trust Bowen? Like, who, who's your team then? You know, it's really, we're, listen, those dynasties are over the Kansas cities and made, well, I shouldn't say they may be not the Eagles. We'll see. Yeah. The Eagles. And I took 12 to one a couple of weeks ago. And it's even I just seen 10 to one at Westgate still. So there's a lack of confidence, even here, it's plus nine and a half to one Super Bowl champs, lack of confidence on the super. The only team that I also say the team with the least amount of sort of, you know, bullets against them are the Rams. That's the one team that, but the Rams even stumbled

6:08here at the end of the year, right? Sure. That's, that's the one team that most people would agree has the fewest flaws. Yeah. But other than them, like, like you said, Eagles, well, kind of stunk most of the year. Can you flip the switch? Jaguars, you trust Trevor Lawrence, chargers. Really? Are we trusting that team, right? I am, but others wouldn't sure. You can go one to do Sam Darnell with Seattle, one team by one team. You could. And there's got to pick somebody. Yeah, somebody's got to win it. Almost got to win. Yeah. So I find a couple of things interesting. A sharp syndicate that I actually do trust he's he's up about five. It doesn't sound like nothing up five units after juiced this season in NFL, like like 60 and 50 something something similar to that. He went out on the Rams minus 10, which is still 10 here at circle. And I just it's a lot of my brain. It's a lot. Let me lay double digits in the NFL ever. Yeah, ever. Now this team, the Carolina beat them. Yes. No, I mean, in Carolina or was it on the road? I believe it was

7:11at home. It was at home. Yeah. Same situation that you have him here at home. And I just don't know the listen, I'm not saying I'm betting Carolina. I'm just saying I can't bet that I can't bet that was that was a game where Matthew Stafford had this unbelievable streak of touchdown passes without an interception. They he gets the he starts with the touchdown pass 28 in a row without a pick. And then it was seven seven, I believe it was. And the Rams come down there with inside the 10 yard line and Matthew Stafford throws his first pick since those 28 touchdowns were thrown in the end zone. And then the next time the Rams have the ball, he throws a pick six. So it's a freak win. I don't know. I don't know if it's a frequent because they all I mean, Carolina's offense actually did some stuff too. So I mean, they're pretty good. That's the thing with Carolina. They're so tough to just sort of grasp what year what once you think they stink, they shock you, right? They beat the Falcons 30 to nothing. They beat the Rams that kind of thing. And then once you think they're good, they'll be like, Oh, there's Carolina

8:15again. Right, right, right. As we speak a little bit of, I have a live live live on screen. And I guess I kind of have no problem with this. I just didn't know who with this Buffalo Jacksonville game is going to be a great game in Jacksonville Buffalo getting bet right now at the Sharper sportsbooks. I'm looking at right now. I'm amazed by that. Yeah, Buffalo one minus one and a half now. I want to talk 15. That's the one though. Like, and I'll, you know, that was the one I was surprised by the opening line. Kelly was surprised by the line. I thought Jacksonville should be favorite and open the Buffalo minus Buffalo was open up minus one. Right. And I just, to me, that's a historical line more than anything. It's like, Oh, there's the Jacksonville brand. Yeah, they've never won anything. Yep. And there's Josh Allen who we know we can trust, right? Like if there's any quarterback, we think we can trust them. Playoffs is Josh Allen, regardless of what the other circumstances are about the Buffalo bills. So that lines, I'm so I'm surprised you're saying people about Trevor Lawrence. Who do we trust there? Right. But, but, but like all we've seen

9:16from Trevor Lawrence under Liam Cohen is we can trust him. So I don't know. I mean, so, yeah, that's an interesting one. I'll tell you, isn't this a great week for football? Oh, it's like, no, I mean, even starting tonight, Miami, like, you can go on and on, Miami, Oregon, India, they, they, they, they space it out perfectly Thursday, Friday, Saturday NFL, Sunday NFL, Monday NFL, and they say people don't gamble. Come on. This is, this is involved in the process of putting these games up when the schedule puts these games up. The very first thing I said this week on the show was, I'm going to try to appreciate every minute of anticipation of all these games, the games themselves, and then every minute in between us, because two weeks from now, we're down to four NFL teams, it already feels like it's over. It's over. And then we're going to be like, oh my god, when this football come back, I got a thing, right? Yes. So enjoy this moment. So I guess we got two minutes for the break here. Why am I doing this? I don't know. You probably, you know, you, I'm going to give you Randy's place. Let's go. His NFL season, he's up about three units

10:19after juice. That's, that's how hard it is to beat. Yeah. This is efficient for flop 80, free flop 80, just to be a winner. I told you the one send to get I knows up five. Well, and Randy's up three Carolina, San Fran under our rare total form, San Fran under the Chargers and under and Houston in the game and Houston roll over Parley. So let's go. He's got the chance. Let's go. It was one by one again, because we went through Carolina Panthers. Plus the points. Plus the points San Fran under 45. Okay. San Fran game San Fred Philly. Chargers and the under I'm on the chargers with him and the under Houston for the game and Houston money line roll over. Houston minus the points and a Houston money line roll over, which means, in anticipation of winning the AFC. Yeah. So one, two, I'm going to count the roll over as a play. One, two, three, four, five, six. He has a chance to put everyone in a homeless shelter by the end of the weekend. So, you know, six plays. It's a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of

11:21a lot of games. It doesn't have a chance to put it. Yeah. Well, this is not, by the way, this isn't those FCS games where he is just crushed again. Yeah. I think it was like six and one. He really did good on that. This is the NFL where we know anything can and will happen. All right. Randy McKay's picks over in. There you go. A bunch of them from crack. By the way, at Bill crack man with a K on Twitter, wise cracks name of the podcast that he does with John Orlando does it very well with Randy. He's running times football season during football season. More with crack on the other side. It's a numbers game of recent. These sports betting that you're here because you want an edge. That's what separates listeners from winners, but let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bet's home pros win because they've got the tools, the data, and the discipline. And now so can you be some programs you access to the same real time insights the sharps use, no secrets, no fluff, just actionable info that moves markets. Tap the link and see why serious betters are turning knowledge into profit with Vs in pro.

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13:41fillets, burgers, frankfurters. Wow. Oh, my God. It was food for two weeks. Wow. They're good. Oh, they were all great burgers, Frankfurters. I didn't get the chicken wings, though. This is from Bobby Getty's. What's up, guys? Consumbed to sharing this, but thought you may appreciate it. Apologies for how long it is. I was told that my grandmother likely isn't going to make it another week. So I went to say my goodbyes yesterday. She was in and out of sleep, but I wanted to give her the best last memory that I could. So I woke her up one last time and said, Ted Williams hit another home run today and showed her video from 1949. It was the first time in a long time. And likely the last time I will see her smile just goes to show the power of sports and how it brings us all together. Thank you for all that you do, fellas. Wow. Cool. What a story. Yeah. Bobby, thank you for sharing. I got a little chills reading. Yeah. It's a beautiful story. We had a we had a family friend in DC. And in his final days, he had all timers. Was it all timers? I'm not even sure. But he was kind of in and out of really being in reality. Maybe it was a bit of dementia. And I also would sit with him and he'd watch. He was a big baseball fan.

14:44I'd watch that Washington Nationals games with him for an inning or two. And in the middle of it, he would say to me, hey, Gil, wasn't that and he picked some ball player from the 1950s when he was a kid. He was, wasn't that Louis apparition? Wasn't he a ball, wasn't he quite a ball player? And I would kind of laugh. And I'd just be like, he sure was just a quarter, right? So sports has that has that effect without question. JC five six two zero seven six, you wouldn't build up the best segment on Veece in every week. But you got to tell him to stop calling it San Fran. That's right. Bill San Francisco. What did I do? You'd call it San Francisco San Fran. The natives of San Francisco did not refer to it as San Fran and I like that. Well, that's how they know you're not from there. Okay. It's a whole thing. All right. SF school. Yeah. No frisco either. By the way, it's not allowed. No frisco. Adam orphan. We won't hold that dead thing, dead head thing against you, Gil, since there are plenty of us here. But he was 100% correct that they played amazing shows at RFK and Oakland throughout their distinguished career. Oh, I'm not doubting that. Ryan Hyatt, the weekly anticipation of crack visiting with Gil and Kelly

15:45on Thursdays on Veece and rivals that have waiting all day to see George Michael sports machine. After the late local news on Sundays, you all have a day and thanks for making it fun. But you know what I remember most about George Michael sports machine is that he always made a point to include NASCAR. Wow. Before it was cool to do so. Was it out like 1130 at night? NBC and something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Sunday night. We were still up after the football. I'm George Michael. Yeah. This is sports machine. It was like pre-IS ESPN. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. You're cool. You were telling me a story off here. We can't talk about that. I can actually look at the someone asked a question about that too. Oh, so. Oh, yeah. Which sports books the best for comp? Oh, yes. I think I'm back to that. Westgate. Westgate is the best for sports betting comps. Now we're talking about sports bet. Yeah, sports books. Oh, yeah, sports betting comps, Westgate. And there are lots of casinos in this town that give you nothing. They don't give you anything. Like they give you nothing or it's such a small puny little amount as compared to the actual casino floor. Yeah. Like I don't know the seizures that they, you know, they threw me off

16:47for winning. So there's the seizures always going to take a little shot at them. But do they give you anything on the app that used to give you something towards your, you can get a different level card, but they don't give you actually a traffic, like, bet MGM, if you bet with them, they give you points, which you can turn into reward dollars, you can get free bets, or you can actually get reward dollars on your on your on your account on your app. I don't know. Seizures may do that though to be fair. Seizures may do that. I don't think stations give you anything, I think they give you enough. Seizures is still a pretty good program though with, yeah. Not, not what like it used to be. Yeah. Um, they used to give, I mean, we got seven star just for betting on the app. That was unbelievable. So it was pretty good. Ben MGM though. Now, like, if you remember, they used to like give you a drink ticket all the time. Now it's like, they'll, if they remember to offer you a drink ticket for every nickel bet. Right. One drink ticket for a nickel is what it's going down to. Yeah. I don't think there's this place that don't even give you a drink. They give you anything. It's here. I think they do. No, I think that that's something that's really gone. When you and I met at the hard rock so many years

17:51ago, how it was like, if you saw a cocktail waitress, it was like spotting the end. Oh, yeah. She don't want to come to sports. See a bondable snowman. We found one. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. You're right. Speaking of cocktail waitress or waitresses. So I mentioned this in my podcast yesterday. We want to go down this whole circle here or this whole spiral your two female waitresses. Oh no. I'm females. Wait a minute. But I'll just say this. Let's just say this. I talked about how someone girls come from the middle of America. Nice wholesome girls raised by great families and all over the country. They come to Vegas and they just for some reason. Maybe it's just not Vegas. Maybe it's now just casino destinations coast to coast. I'm if you're in well, they just don't treat men like men anymore because you're worth a dollar sign to them now. I'm not using cocktail waitresses and casinos. I guess I'm more referring to someone I know that came to town and she got a job and a little job as a waitress and she was a waitress back home in the middle right in the middle of America. And now she's

18:55making two to three hundred a day. She's like so excited. Now she gets a strip club waitress job five hundred a day. You're making bigger money in a strip club. And of course, someone talks her into dancing. He's like, well, you can make thousands two thousand a day for dancing. Here's how it goes. And yeah, once that happens, the party's over. It's actually hard to even it's hard to even go on on a date that love connection that love inside. You're just look at men as money now. Yeah. No more. You don't look at them as actually kind of a sex companion. It's very sad. And I'll be honest with you, you better lock someone up by the time you get 37, 38 because you got a lot of candles on the cake. And now you better lock. No, I'm not saying I'm bad. It is what it is. I'm not I didn't call anyone anything bad. I'm just saying that they if you're sharp enough. Yeah. If you're if you're sharp enough to save money. What you could you could you could you could be sure we do many stories of young ladies who save money to go through school. Yeah, based on that. Now that is you're sharp enough. But a lot of like the party scene, the outside and it's expensive. And you know, and yeah, you better like I

19:59said, you better lock up one of those, you know, guys that came in the club. And that happened the stories of that. It is a it is a in all seriousness. What you're talking about is a very depressing little side of this of the Vegas culture. Yeah. Because we've all seen it through the years, especially when we were younger. Yeah. Um, when you know, also just even forget it. Let's say they're not dancing or anything like that. Even if you grow up here sometimes, right. I it's a different mental because think about it. If you grow up here and you see all you see is folks coming into town throwing money around. Yes. App hazardly. Yes. You develop a very skewed um, sense of how the world really is. You put it in the more correct terms. I'm the street guy talking about these things and broads and everything else. You put it in the right. You put it in the right terms. Thank you for doing that. No, you put it in the right. Nice, uh, proper terminology. No, but but you're you're right. That's exactly what you would come now. This not,

21:02it's not everyone either. So take it easy. I don't want the strippers coming in there. You know, throwing things at me when they see big, big stripper audience we have. So yeah, yeah. You know, it's funny to it. I talked to another guy just just what happens this last weekend. How were too sharp? Too sharp. Not too. I'm not saying we're, you know, that we're not mother Teresa here, but we're too sharp to go to sports to go to strip clubs. Right. Because it's a place. I wish I could say it. You get something, but not something. Yeah. So, uh, I, I've, I've, have I done this ramp before? Like I have never, I have never been like I always look at it. I'm going to go in and spend $1,000. I'm like, so let me get this straight. You're separating me for my money and nothing happens here. Yeah. Okay. That's great. Yeah. It was never in any other places. I'm sure it does. But I mean, yeah, you know, I mean, we are in city. You know, you see these, how about honestly, you see these things going up and down the strip. It's amazing. Our prostitution is actually illegal. That's right. In Las Vegas, you have to go to Perump. Um, Perump, but, but it's illegal here. But yet up and down the strip, they got the guys giving out the cards, snapping the

22:02cards. And how about the girls to your room, those trucks that drive around girls to your room, girls to you, you had to see those trucks over the years. You're, you're, you're numb to them. Wow. You're not even noticed. They're all over the strip. Everyone, listen, I'm sure I got a viewer here or something. I say, absolutely. Girls, it's the same girls from 1980 on those photos. If they ever came to your room, they'd be welcome and canes. Their names are, are margin. Yeah. Beatrice Beatrice. No, but it's just, it's just funny how the, the girls become desensitized. I guess we could use that. It is. I know this girl that came literally great girl from Montana. It's such a, I know her family. That's why. And yeah, she, she's ruined for life. But she is saving her money. I guess. I hope. Yeah. She knows she is. She is. And you're right. You know, she is, she's planning to go to college. But you know, it's hard to go to college when you turn 40. But we'll, we'll, he'll just tweet it. He goes, crack is throwing 102 on the corner today. Oh, meaning you got your fastball and you got your fastball place. He loves it. Oh,

23:02okay. I don't really, like it's just, I put this on my phone. That's right. Months ago. And I said, I got to talk about the waitresses a little bit, not all the waitresses and how they, how you can go down the spot. And I was even referring to when we were younger, just like if you, if you thought about dating somebody, you noticed it also. Yeah, it was just a different. Yeah, more. That's why it's unscripted with the crack man on the other side. Numbers game. V's in the sports betting network. Numbers game on FISA. These sports betting network. Profit X, the number one sports prediction market has some of the best future pricing you'll find on college football national championship and Superbowl odds with a huge holiday slate-saving playoff seating. Now it's the perfect time to get in and take advantage of Profit X's 20% purchase match. Download Profit X today and experience the future of winning. Use promo code V sin to get started skill. Alexander Bill Crackenberger alongside on this unscripted with the crack man. I can't wait to dive into some of these tweets here. Crane pool. Have a happy and healthy new year

24:04to you or a happy and healthy new year to you find gentlemen. Gill, I had a fair faucet poster. You know the one on my bedroom ceiling and I had a Joe name. I thought a graph poster on a wall. One of my brothers had a piece of bachelor's three with Namath. Cool. There you go. Everybody had the fairer. Yeah. If you're a certain age. Chris Heath. My mom's advanced life directive is short but very specific, including no daytime television other than sports. Talking about Bobby Getty's nice story that they shared with us. Thank you again, Bobby, for sharing. I hope everything's okay. I hope your mom. Mom has a fine rest of her time here. Chris Heath also adds. I bet a dime at the Binion's Will Hill had to ask and got one drink ticket for a dime. Might be nice of them. Might be nice. NJD 107 underscore. What is your your and Bill strategy for when these online books like Fandall draft Kings send you bonus bets or no sweat bets. Swing for the fences are grind out of profit. Swing for the fences. Swing for the fences. I always go with a big dog. Yeah.

25:05James Moran circa usually gives you a drink ticket with a smile and a $200 bet for my whole. There you go. Mike Alper has Gil let all your frisco pals know it's a city by the bay. Can I have Felica's phone number so I can ask him random horse racing questions during the Miami game tonight. Yeah, let me tell you something. He will. Felica during a Miami game. It's so funny because we're on the group text. And you know your buddy, Fesick. Fesick is a lot of things. He's a mathematical genius. He's an actuary by trade, but able to read the room, not necessarily his strength. So Chris has these futures on Miami. He's a Miami, a lot of these big Miami fans. And the whole time, Fesick's just like, Miami's going to lose by this score. Miami's going to lose by the whole time. And in the room in a side text, Felica's like, oh, I'm totally getting angry. Jeff Isaacs back in the day, the Orleans used to give out a handful of drink tickets every time you bet at the counter. No matter the domination during March, Matt is now a days you're lucky to find anywhere that gives him out for less than a nickel or dime. Sad. Wow. Yeah. There's Will Hill saying crack

26:05throwing 102 in the corner today. Super jerk. Oh, God, super jerk. Don't call it sand, friend. Logos don't like it. They know you're not from there. Crack won't say it. He's much stupid light. But I will. I'm glad you know, I'm not from there. My response is spoken like someone who's never been to San Francisco. Y'all, y'all can stay away. That's fine. You don't want to be in paradise. That's your problem. Jason H 11. My trick to get free drinks on my annual trip to Mandalay Bay would be to bet the horses used to give them out much easier than regular sports. But even that has dried up. Oh, horses. Yeah. Because the horses guaranteed money for the book. Three Jack H 3131. Wait, did the Vegas lifestyle pod just start? Where's Ace? These cocktail waitresses could save money by switching to Geico and using upside to save money on gas. You need to send Kelly out into the field for research. Kelly's on the field trip for Kelly's for some research. Brian Morianna and in 2013, after my first trip to Vegas, my brother asked me what it was really like. I told him walking down the strip. You won't find more people who want to get you drunk. I and or you know what? Evan Klein. Vegas cocktail waitresses are the low. Used to date one who worked graveyard.

27:07We'll make a ton of tips overnight, feed it back into the video poker machine while drinking a Jameson and chasing it with a Corona. It was the best time of my life. Evan, it's, it's amazing. How many gamble and drinking gamble? Even breaks the gamble. What Evan just described is when I was Hard Rock Gil back in the day. Yep. Those waitresses at the diner, they would do their 12-hour shift. And the next thing you would see him is playing slots with their with their page. Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right. It's it's it's it's, listen, people won't realize that it's closet gambling here is giant for the people that work in the industry and then they blow their checks and it's it's tough man. It's tough being in the gambling town. I'd be like, Kayla, what are you doing? Because the name was always Kayla back in those days. It's gone. I'll name Kayla Rick Olyay ridiculing me for calling it say a friend, huh? Well, watch this. Have we spoken about the occurs on the strip yet? Crack man, the goat is just quoting. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he basically is a crystallizing Rob Graham. Good morning, Gill Kelly and Crack. I'm absolutely laughing so hard from Crack. It's definitely

28:07unscripted. Thank you for making my day. I wish Crack was in charge of Maxim magazine. Oh, my man. Montreal max with January being a huge tennis month as I tweet off and with Gill on women's tennis. But I've never asked if Bill also tells some of Gill's plays like I do on many occasions. Yeah, I definitely would. I mean, you don't get to it. You don't get them. Yeah. No, but you know, on the show, I've heard you give them out. Yeah. Yeah. Not this time of year. Jeffers 23, Gill, nice memories of George Michael sports machine as a high schooler in the late eighties. I would wait every Sunday and anticipation. I recently ran across a stash of old VHS tapes full of the last sports machine show of every month. The plays of the month. Gold. Wow. Chad Lasso. All Crack made me want to do is take a trip to Vegas. What's better than gambling and women and poke therapy. A proper tip at this strip club says class. The wrong kind of tip just says misunderstood these signs. There's the words of advice. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mean to say just bad thing. It's not all strippers. It's not all cocked away. This is just something that happens when they come. That's not their goal to come to town and turn into that. But you know,

29:09when you got guys that come here and groups with a bunch of money, they love it with a bunch of money. They love giving out their money. So you just view them differently. Gill, on the break, you were talking about hard rock. You said something really good. I said, wow, that's so good. About the girls that gambled and the waitresses that gambled. It's hard to believe. And just playing Kino and stuff. It's sad to me. It really is. It's a sad thing. I was, again, these folks know me as a mild-mannered middle-aged sports guy. But this is back in the day. Yeah. Back in the day at the hard rock. Even before that. Back in the day. So if you ended updating a girl who was from Vegas or right, it was only a matter of time before you were asked in some form for money. Right. And I remember thinking at the time, I'm like, that is such a Vegas thing because no, no other city in America would you date someone who would then ask you for money. We're in a diner. We're used to living on the East Coast, Baltimore, Washington. Yeah. That doesn't happen. They just think you're in a casino. You have, you must have money.

30:13Most have it. Can I have some money? Yeah. Well, that's amazing. And this is in the casino. This is their asking. What shop do people have going to a strip club in one that it's unbelievable. Here and that is just unbelievable. Let me tell you what, this could be two weeks. It could be two months. It could be whatever. It's gonna eventually will happen. Yeah. How this all started was, I go to a casino coffee shop. And when I say coffee shop, I don't mean Starbucks. I mean, an actual restaurant in a casino. And I've been going there like two, three times a week for a year. And it's Christmas time. And I said, you know what? Let me give the waitress. The bill was 40. I give her 40. I give her extra 40 for Christmas. I give another girl 20. I give another girl 10. They're not no big deal. Not giant tips. And I have changed in the ones life. But the girl I give 40 on 40 there. And I give some other waitress because it was literally Christmas Eve morning. And I said, have a good Christmas. And I literally went in 24. I guess it was 48 hours later. And I got a different waitress. But the waitress that I gave the 42 two days ago, I guess it was two days ago. Because it was like Christmas Eve, whatever it was.

31:16Even if it was the next day, I see her. And I don't have a setting. My waitress in the back. I said, hi, how are you? Can I have a setting? And she says, I'll tell your waitress. Oh, no. What? I just want to fork. Like, like, just get there. I'll just give the girl 40 on 40. I like, and that maybe go down this whole spiral of girls. And it could be guys too. That started everything. Yeah. I just is what sets you off. That sent me off. You also told some story. You don't have to give the restaurant of the name. But like, you wanted to sit in a booth. Yeah. And it was empty. It was the middle of the day. Nobody was there. There was no one there. There was actually no one. There was actually, there was actually two tables in the middle taken. There were three boots. And then they have like a half-booth, half-table. It's more comfortable. And I asked to sit in the booth and was friendly. And they said, oh, we can't. We have it. It's only part of the tour or more. I was like, wait a minute. I just can't, I can't have one of these boots. I have a comp for a restaurant. It was in the casino. And yeah, they wouldn't, they would sit me. I was like, couldn't believe it. Like, I don't know. Like, you just

32:18keep accommodating. I don't know. That's like that Ben Stiller scene from, uh, analyze this or analyze that. Whatever it was where he was like sitting in row 25 of the, of the plane that he was trying to board. And there was nobody in the tour in the gate area. And they're like, uh, boarding group one. And like, he's had to wait it out because it's like, there's nobody here. Can I just board it? I'm not saying I just have special treatment. Right. But I'm just saying like it just to, you got to just have common sense. There's no, it's not a reservation restaurant. It's almost like a fast food restaurant. That's right. You know, the, the cheapness of gamblers I wrote down, I'm trying to think why that was, this is back, this is back literally, uh, in November, the cheapest of gamblers. I guess it was because of something to do with, with tipping at count. Oh, wait a minute. I know what this was. This is a spiral too. Oh boy. If anyone knows anything about moving, when I'm talking about moving, when you move games like work for Billy Walters or work for one of the groups years ago, you, um, you actually would get a percentage at the end of the year. Usually it's settled, um,

33:22after the World Series and after the Super Bowl. That's that right. World Series. World Series will twice a year. They would settle. In other words, let's say you bet 2,000 a game and you're up 100,000. Well, whoever you're working for, you don't get a salary, you don't get a paycheck, but you get a percentage of the profit. And of course, if it's someone like a Billy Walters, someone sharp, you get 25% free rolls. Really, really pretty generous, pretty nice for your work. You're getting good information. And I want to talk about that after the break. And I'll tell you why no matter what they give you free roll, you're still going to bet a little bit extra for yourself, but your local guy or somebody because you have to. It's like, this is the best effort on the world. I wouldn't you. Yeah. So, so like, there's been like four groups that I know that, that in the past that give those percentages out. And I have to talk about that compared to today. These bugs don't even know what that is. So we got to talk about that. I remember bugs are involved. It's almost worth sticking around for coming back on a numbers game. Advees to these sports betting

34:23network. Back on a numbers game. Live from certain resorts, you know, downtown Las Vegas, Gill Island, Xander, Bill Crackenberger on this unscripted with crack man, each and every Thursday on Twitter, Chris Heath, that quote, unquote, mild mannered middle-aged sports better. That's all he just, he just quoted me for the last segment of y'all only now. But no one wants to hear it. Buddhist man, for entertainment purposes only. Oh, yeah. So Buddhists is showing me one of those signs in Vegas, right? That you're referring to. I'm like, I don't even notice them. I actually showed you. Right. I probably see those signs 10 times a day. Yes. But I've become so desensitized to it, right? And you're right. Like the girls where there's the same girls that were from the 80s. This is unbelievable. But they're all over the strip,

35:23those trucks. Buddhist, I was once asked, what do you think the girls from the photos on these trucks are doing right now without batting an eye? He quote, he says, I replied, retired in real estate age, retired real estate agency says, if you know, you know, that's exactly, I mean, it's just Dr. Van, she's been around. Dr. Van, no straight. I can listen to crack all day. He has more stories than Stephen King. I need him to start doing books on tape. I'd be the most or it would be the most well-read gambler in New York City or I would be the most well-read gambler in New York City. Sorry, Darren Frazier. Once again, crack is the best segment of the week. Former Paris resident hypnotist, Anthony Kuz has made millions from those trucks driving the strip with girls to your room billboards. How have you missed a gill crack? All was bringing the heat. Thanks, Darren. It's a hundred percent that I've seen them because I go to work on Dean Martin also and they have those up there. But if you live here and you're just, you're not, by the way, I'm 150 years old now. So like, you know, and not, by the way, when I was 20, I wouldn't have cared either. But you, I don't even notice that they exist because you're so dissent. Now that you say it, Dean Martin, I know I see it

36:26the web ring. You're right. You don't realize it. Um, Dell, mine the gap radio. Best hour of the week with the crack band. Thanks, brother. And Scotty, leisure suit, Kobe, you'll gill on behind on the stream. Why you got to, why you got to disrespect my great Aunt Beatrice like that? Huh? She works hard for her money. Sorry about that. Sorry, Aunt B. I didn't mean to appreciate it. Yeah, apologies for that. We were just talking about something off-air. Do you remember what we were talking about? Yeah. Uh, cool. What, what, what large amounts of money that Bill Corkenberg. So I'm saying like, you know, when, when you work for someone years ago, I did, you know, and that's how I know Alan Boston years, Alan 11 years. And, um, you know, Billy was always very generous to everyone that I know and very generous to, you know, to me and, and, and the cruise back then. And, you know, this is literally used to have a, this is even before then when I first started in the 90s, we, I was introduced to Bill from Ken Weitzner, who used to own a website called TheRx.com, who was since past, um, you used to, everyone had their phone and you had a sports

37:27book. This is back in Jersey and New York. And it was literally like, and, and you're on a big, um, remember the AOL, there was an AOL, like a little box that came up on AOL with like a chat. Yes. This is bad. This is like 98, 99, 97, 98, 99. And you would go with three, two, one, bang. You know, used to minus three and everyone would dial their bookmaker and, and they'd have them on the phone. And, you know, back then in New York, it used to be, give me 20 times, you know, 50 times, 100 times, whatever, every time was $5. And you, you bet your, your bookmaker and you turn the whole thing into Billy or any, let's not use Billy. Let's, let's use, I mean, any group, Chip and Doyle, baseball, total. So great. Uh, uh, Harlow Bob and NBA second half unbelievable, master, first and second half, I can go on and on to the, the poker, the kosher's, uh, Billy. These were the groups. If you work for them, you get a free roll, um, of course at the end of the year or like I said, twice a year, a free roll on the money you're turning in. Now you have to guarantee your money. You can't say, hey, uh, Joe Schmoh on the corner didn't pay me. You have

38:30to guarantee your money and you get a free roll percentage. Like I said, everyone always bets extra anyway. I just, it's, it's the nature of the business. You're always going to bet more. So, um, yeah. So what I was saying is the new thing, the last 10, maybe more 10 to 12 years, the, these, these kids that are the geniuses, these analytical, um, you know, like, you know, the kids, if you were to tell them together, they just think the bonus is giving you the information. Like they, they, it's really hard to say, you know, like, they, they, they, they wouldn't even know if I tell them they, they think they were lying. Hopefully to some old school guys on air that would confirm what I'm saying. They would think I'm lying the way it really works. Now they think information is your reward. So let's explain that. So, so you're the one. So, so, so let's say a group gives you a play. You're the one who's actually physically betting it or sneaking around betting it or manipulating it or, or, or better yet, even, even actually circumventing limits to get down extra. That's right. So you're doing all the

39:32legwork. This, by the way, happens within groups as well, right? Where one person is the, the, the guy doing the numbers and then they've got people doing all their stuff to get the money down, right? But in the case, what you're talking about. So you're the one who's carrying around, let's say hundreds of thousands of dollars in the end. Yes. Yes. Back in the old code, you were given a piece of that. Yes. These kids don't view it that way. They would, they would say, what are you talking about? They don't want, they don't want to, if I go to the counter here and take 20,000 out, I said, listen, I had to give the guys 50 bucks. Well, well, that's not my 50. I don't want to take that out of my end. What would you say, Myron? Let me don't take it out of your mind. Myron. Like, like, like, like, they, you know, really? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Why are you talking about it? It is in it because they believe. And by the way, let me just, let me, let me take, let me take their, they get to my edge. That's right. That's exactly right. It's all math. They're getting into their edge. Because they, I'll, I'll defend them because there is a case to be made for their side, right? Which is, hey, the information, you, this wouldn't even be happening if it weren't for me. By the way, groups have broken up because

40:35of definitely, right? Definitely. We know of one very intimately. They broke up because there was, you know, the guy who's crunching the numbers thinks he's the guy, the guy who's doing what you're doing thinks, well, none of this happens. If I'm not, you're not good at doing this. You're not the one moving, right? Yep. So it's the old, it's the age old story. But I do think that mentality shift is very interesting. For sure. And to be real blunt, I've been stiffed for life changing money. Like retirement, people could retire on a money that I was stiffed on dealing with all these guys back in the day. I dealt with a lot of bookmaker. I dealt with street bookmakers all my life back then. I don't do, I don't, anymore. But back then, I dealt with, I, I dealt with a guy in, in, in the city that gave me 21 guy. I'll tell you, this is a great story. Wow, I can't believe I'm never talked about this. This has got to be a statute of limitations. It's just 25 years. 1999. Yeah. It's more than that. So I dealt with a guy that got me an account. And he said, okay, he, he, the guy that I get these accounts from two accounts, he's not paying

41:36us. I said, what do you mean he's not paying? He's not, yeah, he's not paying. I said, well, listen, I told you that you have to get it. I'm never going to tell you my partners in this stiffening. He can't tell me your book then stiffening. He goes, well, I don't have the money. But he made us a deal. I said, what kind of a deal he'll make you? Well, he wants to meet the person that put, that's put in the bedroom. I said, well, you always tell him it's someone else. You don't give him my name up. You know what I mean? You never tell him what it is. He goes, well, he, he, he says we, we can make a lot of money with him. And I said, well, I'm not meeting nobody. I'm not going to meet you know, because they can, they can get real mad and say, you don't, you don't walk into a bus. So you don't know you're walking into. And I've actually walked into someone to put that, that pulled a gun out on me, supposed to pay me. I never got paid to this day, 42,000. That's true story. But this wasn't it. This wasn't the situation. This was a situation where the guy wanted to meet me consistently. Otis 11 ran and the kids like, no, he's okay. Trust me. I actually went and met him. I went up to Greenwich Village met the guy. And he was really nice to me. He's like, well, here's what's going to happen. I'm going to give you 11,000. And we're going to make a lot of money together because I'm going to guarantee you and everyone

42:38will get paid with this guy must have gave me 300 more, more, 400, 500 accounts back in the day, like 20 at a time, 10 at a time. He's right. We made a lot of money together. Absolutely did. You know, it was the 90s. It was the PPHs were just coming out. And he guaranteed all the money. And it was absolutely that that's what it is. This is what the business used to be. Yeah. I'm just trying to tell you guys from then to now. And you know, I've been doing this 30 years versus you gave him 50 dollars. You cut into my edge. Son into my edge. Yeah. No, but that's the way it would be today. And like, they don't realize that there's a lot of tipping involved with the encounters. You can't go out and take money out. Like one thing about FESS. FESS tips. I told you this. He went to the counter here with me. I said, I'll say it again. I just did a 10 dime transfer from my account that is. And he gave him what's that for you? You press the guy's press the button. There was no financial change. You know, you got to give him something. No, you know what he he he'll be mad at me for him. He said, you know, he said he said, I'll give it. He was he's like, I'll give me a half percent of of of my winnings in this kind is I'm like, you're not giving me anything. You know what I mean?

43:40I didn't do. Yeah. I know he takes a lot of stuff and there's reasons why sometimes I get it. But I don't know. Why do I rate people on how they tip? Well, I do. In general, you know, like I can't stand that so people some people are just so cheap that they actually want to get a tip calculator at the dinner and split up and say, well, you had a glass of wine. That's it. That's it for me. You go that we did it. The party's over. There's no more than I don't like that person. There's no more than there's I've seen it. I've seen it because you know that when it comes to the vagus culture of tipping, I will often take the other side of where I think it's going too far. I'll take that position because I was like, oh, you you you also think I you should get the percentage of this as well. So I'm on the but on that kind of stuff like the restaurant stuff. Oh, yeah. No hard hard. No after that. Hard. No. It's it's and I've seen some guys that's for a lot of money. I know a guy that's worked hundreds of millions. I've said it on the show before. Yeah, hundreds of millions that me and someone who listens on the show right now he's listening have had to go back behind him and tip. Yeah, he's like probably worked about 300 million. I think for you to go behind him.

44:43It's steel curvy or enthusiasm. We're a one to psychs catches Larry going back. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you a little. Yeah. Larry, what were you doing? But this is real. This is real. It's a shame. The guy's in the gambling business too. And he's just he doesn't tip if you buy his bottles of wine. If the bills five thousand bucks and four thousand of what's wine he's only tipping on thousand and he's tipping fifteen percent. Oh, and he buys those kind of bottles of wine. That's four hundreds of millions. Life is too short, man. Boom. Yeah. I just buried everyone today. Bill Crack and Burger fastball. 102 on the corners. Gordon will. He's right. Back to your regularly schedule program. Prop points next. Enjoy from Vison. These sports betting network.