A Numbers Game | January 29, 2026 | Hour 2

0:00A number is called the story of Alex. Swamp those idiots and believe in Alex. This is a numbers game with Kill I like Xander. Go on Vsyn. Our number two of a numbers game at Vsyn, these sports betting network Vsyn.com, Game Plus, I Heart Radio, YouTube TV, and of course, Series X of Channel 158. Kill I like Xander. Kelly Midland, producer number nine, so much more than a producer back in the house. Yes, sir. Here at Circa. Glad to see you. Shout out to Danny Higgins once again. Yeah, man. Danny Higgins accused by one person on Twitter yesterday of being the double negative guy when that, in fact, was why Tom check your other replacement. Danny, Danny catch a trace. Oh, man. We get tweets with both JD and Florida. This is the outlook for Sunday morning. NHL outdoor series Sunday night here in Tampa. Look at those temperatures in Florida. Even South Florida's like below freezing. Yeah, they did. Man, what is this? The second outdoors game in Florida? I think there was one down in Miami. You are asking the wrong person. I know, I know, I am. Brian M. Going for the all-hair team lineup at Viesin.

1:00Gill Kelly and Zach. Is he including me in that as well? I think so. Thanks very much. Kelly grown his hair out. I like it. You know what? I've cut Zach too. Behold his majestic hair. Did you hear what I said to you before the show? I'm like, I both hate and love my hair right now. Oh, yes. I both hate and love it. You should. You should grow that out. I know what's terrible. I know what's terrible right now. Go Patrick Maher, man bun. Do the whole thing. I wish I could. I think when you call, you didn't call me out of me. When I said I was going to grow it out. You're like, all right. Like, let's get it over under on the date. I'm worried. I'm approaching it. Like any one of these days, I might just look in the mirror. Be like, yeah, I'll go. Oh, Truman, get me in. I need a cut. Truman. I can't remember how much Truman wants. Four is Lehman. THC. Absolutely. Alex, Alex here. From my grains, Kelly. And hunger. Sleep. Aphrodisiac. Stress. Anxiety. World peace. Am I rambling? Yes, you are. Force. Force says though. THC is your, uh, is your cure? He's going to feel those tweets. James Fessler.

2:00Are we sure the Minnesota GM and Kevin O'Connor are still happy? With the McCarthy over. Darnell decision. There's definitely a universe with a biking defense and a Darnell led off. And so the NFC Super Bowl representatives. Hashtag school. Yeah, man. Daniel Jones always also rostered. It wasn't enough. Forget. I mean, don't we don't we think that was part of O'Connor's call? Yeah. They're all involved. Lisa, I thought it was cheap prop bets. The Scotty Pippin of the show. Oh, no. Just tell me it won't end like it did for Jordan and Pippin where they don't get along. Oh, that's a good point. Or, or that my son. Yeah. I was going to say my son ends up dating Kelly's ex-wife. I think to continue the analogy. Oh, man. What a, what a bizarre relationship at this point. Do they still see each other? Anybody? No, I don't think so. Didn't, didn't that happen like once ago? Jesse Welch. I bet you Kelly wishes he could have put his migraine into a box to check on in the morning. Yeah. Trottinger's CAD for Kelly's migraine.

3:01Do what you get. Get the money racing. Kelly, if you don't want a pollute body with dirty pharmaceuticals, check your magnesium levels and add a supplement. Usually magnesium and D3 will help also look back at what you consume prior to migraine may lead to answers. Oh, that's interesting. Okay. Brian M. I don't see a true path for Henderson. I'll tell you about Travion because the explosive runs haven't really been there against Seattle. Stevenson has a better shot with a rush slash receiving longs by running backs this year. Demar Cato had 55, 55 yard run against them. That's too soon on Demar Cato. Can we not bring him up? Williams, 34 mason, 24 quorum, 19, two tied for 13. And Jason H 11 says, welcome back, Kelly. Glad you're feeling better. I am. We all, we all feel that way. Glad you're back. Thank you. I am fascinated by the Super Bowl MVP market this year because like I'm with you, man. I just don't know. There, there is nothing compelling. Yeah. And like look, hey, I, I will field tweets. Please, if you have creative ideas, I think there is possibly a long shot down the board

4:03possibly, you know, but man, I don't remember the last time where the odds board has told, basically told you there's nine guys, right? Because you get to drew lock like drew lock is 75 to what? Yeah. We get to back up quarter back range and 10th on the odds board. You weren't here. Drew was here. I just think again, it was worth saying once it's two weeks, the props are out there. People go crazy on Super Bowl props. I get it. On the other hand, if you're not roofless Peabody and you don't really have numbers on some on, on all these categories, I don't know why you would just saw all of a sudden go prop crazy if you haven't all year. And then MVP has another one that people want to force in and get a people want to just have action and fun. I get it. But I don't see for me. There's there's necessarily a bet that I want to make. Let's talk about Yannis. Let's do a Yannis. Yannis trade destinations. This is available at Calshire. I think draft Kings might have this also, but I'm a state. Yeah. Maybe in some states. Yeah. Yeah. I bet it at a Calshire. We'll get to that. Right now, stays with the bucks or retires is the short shot at plus one 22.

5:03Nix. Nix. Yes. At plus 284. This is Yannis's next team odds. Yes. On the Nix is plus 284. The warrior is at plus 354. Heat plus 669, everybody else, a distant 32 to one. All right. Can we talk about those three teams besides the bucks and retires? Let's talk about the Nix, the warriors and the heat. Yep. All right. The Nix, which Yannis is expressed, he kind of wants to play for the Nix, right? But the bucks want, this is reportedly, right? The bucks want young players and draft picks. They want to do this trade, right? But this is, they want young players and draft picks as a team would when losing Yannis onto the tempo, because they're not, they're not looking for players necessarily, because they don't think they're winning a championship. The Nix don't really have either of those things, young players or draft picks, right? Like the most they can do is say, Hey, you guys want to do a first round swap in 2030 and 2032? Hey. And the bucks are supposed to get excited about that.

6:04And also the NBA, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong here, Kelly. The NBA trade currency thing has, has changed to over the years. Like a few years ago, McKayle Bridges got traded for five firsts. That world doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That it just doesn't exist anymore. So the Nix really don't have, right? When trade, trade young just got salary capital, just to give you an example of the contrast to what exists now versus when, when McKayle Bridges was traded to the Nix. So the Nix really don't qualify on draft picks and or young players. The only way I see the Nix getting him is if Yannis steps forward and says, you're the only team I'm going to resign with, Yannis's contract ends at the end of next year. So that's the only way unless he really weighs in on that, I don't see the Nix getting him. Let me skip to the heat for a second. The heat, they're really only better than the Nix in all of this, because at least they have Tyler hero and they have, uh, Kelly, where, so that's something I guess in players

7:06and they do have, I guess they got one they could flip right now. Right. Yeah. They can't really trade the 2027 first round pick that they got from the Terry Rozier trade. By the way, what happened to Terry Rozier? Anything happened over there? Just show them. Also prevents them from trading picks in 2026 and 2028. Remember, that's the Steppian rule. You can't trade three years in a row, Ted Steppian, the former owner of the Cavaliers who just tanked annually. The bucks don't have a pick in 2029. So really, it's really like, swap rights off the table with the heat, um, the only thing you could really do with the heat when it comes to draft picks is in 2030, 2031 and 2032. And again, with wear and hero added into the mix, so they're better than the Nix in terms of what they can offer, but it's still all not that, not all that sexy. Yep. Both teams, both these teams, though, this could, in the heat's case, you could, you could wait till the draft, now you could wait till the off season, you get a first round

8:08pick and then you could add that person in or that pick into the, into the trade. But we'll talk about right now before the trade deadline. Yeah. Yeah. Both Nix and he are kind of in that same situation as, as you outline, like they could wait. And this could be like, I think that the bucks don't want to wait. I think that yes, no price on the, on Milwaukee is, is pretty sharp. Like, I think that's good. I, I think there's still a chance with a trade this big difference to have like things that we've seen in the past, right? Or that Luca Doncic was fleeced. This was from a team and a GM that had given up the Milwaukee bucks are just, are just settling in for all right. And this is what we all yelled after Luca, right? It's were officially open for business, send me your best damn offers because Milwaukee's now at the point to where they got a, they're going to try to do what they best they can for Yannis, but they, Yannis understands you got to get a hold back for a player like him. Well, you know where I'm going with this. Yep. The Warriors. I got this morning at plus 488. It is now plus 354. So plus 48, Cal she's 17%.

9:10This makes all the sense in the world to me. Steph Curry going to be 38 years old in March. Mm hmm. So he's like Novak Djokovic, right? Or Novak Djokovic, even at 38, still the third best player in the world. Steph's still a top 10 player in the NBA. And the window is the window, right? Yannis 38 because, you know, 38, 28, 28 to coat, to coat, shack, right? It will come to an end at some point. But in the meantime, how do the Warriors make this work while Steph is still elite? You get Yannis. And unlike the Knicks and the Heat, the Warriors actually have controlled draft capital that the Bucks would want. And the Bucks could also say to themselves, well, so the Warriors will say, well, Yannis will keep us relevant after Steph. And the Bucks could say when they lose Steph, those picks that will get are going to be awesome because the Warriors will stink. And when I'm talking about the picks, Milwaukee doesn't have picks in 27 and 29, 2027, 2029.

10:11Those would be the obvious swap years for the Bucks to target. And the Warriors can solve that problem. Here's one suggestion they could go to Washington, grab Oklahoma City's 2026 first rounder. But Milwaukee, really, they could give Milwaukee first round picks. Ready for this 2026, 2027, 2029, 2031, along with first round swaps in 2028, 2030, 2032. They could also just give the Bucks outright 26, 28, 30 and 32, along with a 31 swap and then force the Warriors to trade for it. Then the Warriors would have to do something with other teams to make that work. They could also throw Jonathan Kaminga in the trade as well. It makes all the sense in the world to me on all fronts that the Bucks would say, Yannis, this is the team that makes the most sense for us. By the way, is there anything, will there be any better duo in the league right at the moment than Yannis and Steph? I challenge you to that now.

11:13And they fit perfectly, Yannis, by the way, and I don't know what it does, Dremon, right? It's Dremon likes to start offense sometimes. But this will be Yannis can start plays, right? He can play point as he likes to bring the ball up court. Curry's just hanging out where Curry hangs out, it just makes too much sense. I bet it Warriors plus 488, 17% this morning, I think it's the best bet on the board right now. I mean, the Warriors for the Warriors, they can give up draft assets in years that shouldn't matter as much. And for the Bucks, they can say, give me, I want more draft stuff further down the road with Steph's likely out. Dremon? I like it. Let's go. Coming back on a numbers game.

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13:18Wagspool. Gill, I was lucky to grab Jackson Smith in jig, but before the divisional round for MVP at 17 to one, but maybe a better approach would be the latter of the player, you like, up in their statistical category, Darnell over 300 plus yards, May, rushing and passing way up as an example. Absolutely, Wagspool. That's always a strategy. I think there's definitely something to that. I think there's definitely something to that. Like if you want a bet for Rashidji, you'd have a big game. You're probably better off doing stuff like that. Yes. You can do Seahawks money line and ladder up some of his receiving yardage props or something like that. And you're going to have better payout than the MVP market. Rivers Peabody, who has made a cottage industry over Super Bowl prop betting. Really the first thing he was ever known for now, he's obviously known for golf and college basketball. That's up. The very first thing he's ever been known for was Super Bowl prop betting. I still doesn't. I don't know to the degree. If he does anymore, he will be the guest on the Megapod next week. And I will try to coax some bets out of him that he's made. Hopefully the lines are still intact. By the way, today the Megapod is the 15th annual Vegas lifestyle podcast.

14:19Can't wait to talk restaurants and such with Mark Meltzer, like Celtser and Timmy Lawson. Love it. Love it every year. Megapod is story. I'm interested to hear. I think you've asked her if it's this the past couple of years, but just how his bettings changed. Like, you know, when we get your Monday morning and like five years ago, me and you are waiting on some of these shops in town like Superbook to get up, you know, props on this Thursday. Yeah. We were showed up your Monday morning and draft Kings has got how, you know, 75% of their menu up already because because so many of them are just static formulaic props and they just plug in the names. Nemo Ryan's voice. I know I'm just a square, but I played Travion over two and a half receptions, hopefully one dump off and Barner over half a rush yard, hopefully one Tush push. Am I just a sucker? Do these make some sense? They make sense. Absolutely. They make sense. Yeah, you've got a reason there. You said you said the reason for both precisely. I'm with you on the honest to Golden State took it on Calche yesterday around lunchtime and got 11 to one way better than me. Let's go. There you go. Chance. All right. You had something else to say about.

15:19I've got a couple of things, man. I can talk about this for hours. Okay. Did come down this morning, Brian Winhorse noting. I think this is important. Noting that the Timberwolves have been added by honest to the preferred destination. So basically New York, Minnesota, the ones we know about now, I'm not sure. I want to understand that the Milwaukee Bucks need to get something in return for these guys. You hold on the power right now. So throw whatever teams on there that you want. Oh, I tell you what else is in it. I'm sorry. Yeah. It isn't, but you jog this in my memory now about you spring up the T-wolves. It has because this has taken so long, right, that it didn't happen last off season. You think about teams like the Rockets and the Spurs, remember we used to talk about these things, but they're doing so well that they're, they're not part of this anymore. Like why mess up what you already have going on? The Rockets I've never fully understood and absolutely the status change with the Spurs. I bet the Spurs in this market like three months ago or something. That is, yeah. Wildly changed. I don't really think I stand a chance.

16:20Two other teams. I do want to bring up like, I've thought about this like nose, like we, we, we talk about using Kalashy for different things, right? Just betting some of the nose on here. If you're, if you're pretty sure it could be good value as well. Like I don't think this is, this is settled by the trade deadly. I don't think the Knicks happens and I don't think Miami does, but I will not be betting a no price on Miami because this is like Pat Riley's last hurrah, right? Like he's been trying for this guy for like five years. He's still there with the team. He's still trying to get one more ring on his finger. This feels like Pat Riley's last hand. So I'm not going to bet against them. The other team I don't understand why they've drifted as much as they have. I don't know if Danny caught this, but we caught them there down to 49 to one this morning. Now I've got a little shorter, the Atlanta Hawks, like the Atlanta Hawks have been setting up everything the past few months in my mind to make a run at yada. So I don't really know why they faded into the background of this conversation. I think they're still plenty live, especially if a deal happens in season here. You have some NBA plays for us tonight.

17:20You know, I get a couple games. I'll talk about quick. I do not have any bets yet for that. I kind of have circled for live betting and see where numbers move today. I think it's and Hawks was looking at the under in this game to 24 and a half, just two teams that have struggled a little bit offensively defenses playing well. So leaning to that one would probably live bet that had an into tonight. And then the heat bowls. I had this marked down earlier. I thought I was going to bet bulls, but I was waiting on some of their injury information. Josh Gidey has been ruled out for tonight. This is a back to back for both of these teams, both were in action last night. Miami got to get on a flight, go to Chicago for this game. He's now like one and a half, two point favorites. I think that makes a little bit more sense. And then pistons, this was another one. I didn't really have kind of like the wizards. I don't really have the stones to pull the trigger on the sun. Yeah. Like they opened up was like five and a half, six and a half. And it was the same number that Denver was catching the other night. I thought that was a little off, but this has gotten bet down four and a half under five.

18:23I think that's where that one belongs. And then the big game of the night, thunder and Timberwolves back to back situation for the Timberwolves. Man, I'm not, this is a team. I'm not betting on or against for a while. Minnesota. I have been so off on in the past like six weeks. I brought this up yesterday. So thunder not going to break the record. They're probably not going to win 70. You think they're going to go for their season win total 62 and a half. Oh, man. How many of them lost now? 10. It's tight. It's going to be tight. It's going to be tight. It's going to be tight. I'll stay in by though. I beginning of the season, it still would have been over or nothing for me. So if the undergets there, oh, speaking of wind totals, yes, Charlotte, widow meter up to 20 ice back in action tonight at the Mavericks. I know Zach had a bet and I can be about to double double there at 20. What was their season win total? 26 and a half. And you took them all to 30. 30. Yep. Okay. All right. To the Super Bowl, Super Bowl 60 because you haven't been here for a couple days with your migraine, you want to refresh folks memories on how you were, what are your bets

19:25at this point? I bet Drake may over 32 and a half rushing yards, 33 and a half, 33 and a half is where I bet him, Danny, some are up to like 38 and a half yesterday, 37 and a half. Yeah. That's, I think that's probably more right. Look, I would still lean to the over. I think what Zach brought up are pretty fair points. I think you're going to see May under pressure. I think May outscramble could make some sense. I also think it just makes sense from a Patriots game playing standpoint. We've seen it a few times in past few weeks. Biggest thing with that bet, though, Gil, it's just what we see so often with these props. It's go overs early under his late, right? These numbers get inflated early on with everybody coming in to bet and overs. There's going to be a buyback point on this May prop. Like it might already be there, you know, 38 and 37 and a half, 38 and a half. We saw 38 and a half yesterday. So maybe it's already on its way back down. You Danny put these, these props up earlier in the week. I'm curious if you have any takes on these, Donald and May combined passing yards. You can bet these props. There's a fun one.

20:25There's a fun one. So 425 plus. Again, this is Donald and May combined 425 plus is minus 185. So that's a big favorite, right? Then as the 25 yard increments go up, obviously the plus money goes up as well to the point where we have 525 plus would be plus 274. You're thinking yourself, wait a minute, 525 plus, they would each only have to like throw for two, you know, 268, right, 255 each, pardon me, 265 each, right? And you would get there. Wow, plus 274, yeah, but most people think it's going to be a, you know, a low scoring game. So can you really get to an average of 265 for both players, especially after the playoffs that Drake May has had? And then either player passing yards, you can see there's the 250 plus. There's the 25 yard increments, right? And the higher it goes, 350 plus would get you 930 plus 930 for either of these guys to throw for 350 yards.

21:26So these, I, I would imagine people would take flyers on stuff like this. Yeah, I mean, that's a fun one to have. That is a fun. Yeah. Donald May either player 300 plus passing yards and plus 250, that's a fun one to have in a suit. Well, do you think there is one side or correlated to a total outcome than the other? Oh, I see what you say, because as you were kind of going through this, like I think, think the Patriots would be more correlated to it and over. Oh, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Because again, I go back to my cowboys, skins, Niners, Giants versus Bill's Broncos, 80s and early 90s theory, which is to me, there is a scenario here where the Patriots just get destroyed. So I agree with you. I'll push back on you and sack a little bit. I, I think, I, look, I'm going to be against the Patriots in this game. I think the Patriots can win the blowout. I mean, isn't it real? Yeah. This is the script we've been writing all year, right? Like what happens if the Patriots get out to a 14, nothing leading?

22:27It's just Sam Donald's pressure time. Like are we all convinced Sam Donald's thriving through this? No problem. Cause we all had a lot of doubts all the two weeks ago. Yeah. I think Mario Cristobal and Sam Donald have, and I know Mario Cristobal didn't win the natty, but I think we can, I think we could put it to bed. I think you're right, too. Yeah. There's one game to prove, there's one game to prove everybody wrong. There's a one game to revert back to it. That's for sure on that, but I do like among the Super Bowl props. I kind of dig this one because you can kind of work yourself into a mental pretzel with him. Be like 500 combined and plus 183, they each have to average 250. They both don't have to get there. But if one goes 350, it goes 150, like you can really work yourself up into that among the many props that there are in this, have a little are we sure? Let's do that next on a numbers game. David Vista, these sports betting network numbers game on Fisense, these sports betting network back on the numbers game, live from Circa Resort Casino downtown Las Vegas

23:30killer. Kelly Midland back in the house. We get tweets. Be the book. Everybody wishing you back. Wishing you. Wishing you well and happy to have you back. Jason H 11 says Kelly all these healthy remedies. People are suggesting for your migraines, don't work. He suggests your basic combination of Vegas things for you. I'll let you. All right. Let's set. Let's put it this way. It's not Halla notes. It's something else. Won't do anything for the migraines, but it'll be a hell of a lot more fun. He said, Joe, Joe Connor on Janus, how many teams want to take on all of his brothers do taking a roster spots, low chance of developing young guys? I think that comes into play for teams as well. No Alex, no, uh, the Nasi, the Nasis, Ryan Shay for 31, Gill, if the Bucks trade Yannis for Kaminga and picks, Bucks fans would burn down the arena. Kaminga's a waste of height, G league player. Oh man. I'm a G league player. Warriors would not win the championship with Stefan Yannis and Dremont. Does that really make team scared?

24:30Save your picks. Uh, yeah. I think it would make some team scared. Yeah. I think Stefan Yannis. I think you're wrong about that. You're definitely wrong about that as far as the, but I have the reason again, I get to the Warriors is not because of necessarily the outcome of Yannis and, and, uh, I'm sitting center, Yannis and Steph Curry, because we have a center, uh, graphic, you're on the, on the side. But it's also because again, what I laid out, the Warriors have what they want, right? A bevy of great picks that aren't, um, conditional, right? The Warriors control almost all of them and the Bucks can, can say unlike within, with the heat and the nicks, oh, man, this package is way better. Kaminga's just a throw in to be honest with you. And again, the thinking of the Bucks can very well be, hey, you know what? Even if we, if we have to endure watching these two guys for a couple of years, at some point, Steph's going to be 40, 41, right? Like two years away. So he's going to retire at some point. And then we believe, just talking like if I'm in the Bucks heads, right?

25:33We believe the Warriors are going to stink. And so those picks are going to be great. So the other one, the other one I wanted to bring up and I'm glad you, you circled back to this. It's, it's the other part, like the, the calcium market is extremely specific. By the way, if you are betting this, it settles at the trade deadline. So that's where I kind of brought up the no prices on the nicks. And he, I don't think the nicks and heat are completely out of this. I think it is very likely actually that this gets pushed past the trade deadline. And then this is early, early offers, basically that the Milwaukee Bucks are getting right now and they'll settle this up after the season ends. I think that is completely likely to happen. In fact, I think that no price on him getting moved is fairly accurate on this one. So the, the biggest thing what you, like you brought up with the Warriors, the biggest thing for the Bucks is I need draft picks this year or kick the can down the road with, let's target when Steph gets done. Yeah, fine. That's going to be the best time, best time draft outcome for where the Warriors play with Steph off the court. And then all I, all I've been here and go is that we know about the, the stars that are

26:34in this draft glass. The next two draft classes aren't looking as great for the Warriors, could fit the bill for this. Exactly. So you get that done at the trade deadline. It's cool. Get Warriors trade assets for this year and then down the road. Primetime Leon Sanders. Yo, hey, man, I'm a professional self-medicator and I got to the cure for all of country club and K Michael Bidland's headaches, brown liquor and Maya joint. You're welcome. Let's go. Johnny Kiefer. Who's Johnny Kiefer? And golfer. Oh, golfer. Bright young star. Is that who you guys a bet on? Is that why he's? No, he's just got a bet. He was probably someone. No, no, he was down the board on the rookie of the year bet, right? You made Erkel Penn. I went pinch. Yeah. Corbin. Good morning, fellas. Glad to have Kelly back. I'm way behind on the show. We just wanted to show you guys the real reason why Bill Bellcheck did make all of famed thought you guys would like this. That's the 24 year old girlfriend angle for some Hank Dill. If someone takes a quarterback for a rushing prop and the quarterback gets sacked, will that reduce the rushing total? No. No. Sacks do not. But kneel downs do. Yes.

27:34We know. Yes. We know very well. Thanks for bringing that out. Real quick before we get to our shirt because I've been meaning to bring this up. Yeah. Did you see this guy over the weekend scale that building in Taipei? No. Okay. Some Netflix. So we all real hip to this. I didn't know anything about it. Oh, the Netflix guy. I saw this was going to happen. I didn't see it. He did the first. His name is Alex Huddled. He climbed. He's got a few of these. Taipei 101 in Taiwan. Yeah. Did Dale Capitan in 2017? No, we didn't. Okay. This is Taipei 101, the building in Taiwan, 1,667 foot tall skyscraper. He did it without ropes live on Netflix. I want to say this was like L. Duncan's debut on Netflix. I wish the announcers would have just shut up. It was awful, right? But this dude, I am so, the only reason I want to bring this up is I am so scared of heights. Right? Even though I choose to live in San Francisco in some, some high spots. And I'm so scared of heights that I could barely watch this.

28:34My palms were getting sweaty and I found my body moving involuntarily left and right because I was like, oh, no. But this dude had this unbelievable upper body strength where he's just able to like hoist himself up in ways that mere mortals could never incredible to watch. No, it's insane. It's wild. It is literally. You and I are both not fans of heights. I get the same way when I watch these sorts of things. I could just watch it for more than 10 seconds at a time. I'm laughing off here. You hear those like talk about talk about a commentary that's easy to criticize. Like can you imagine doing that show? No, how long does it take for him to climb a building? No, it's worse. You're right. It's a brutal game. Like they're often fighting people that have no idea what they're talking about. It should be being killed. He's on floor. 73. I mean, like, how quickly will they were talking to him? That's what made him. No, okay. That's terrible. What up there? Well, how do you think he's doing? I don't like that when they're talking to PGA tour players during the round.

29:35It's a little different when you're climbing a wall. He was so chill. It's like he was five feet off the ground. That's how he was behaving. That's incredible. Incredible. Anyway, ready? Let's do it. Are we sure? Let's go. You think you know what's going on in the sports betting world? Are you sure? I'm positive. Kill and Kelly tackle the hard-hitting questions on another exciting edition of Heart We Sure. Again, Ryan always says it's exciting, which is very nice of him. Well, we'll let you be the judge of that. Hard-hitting questions, too. Okay. What do you got? Maybe. Um, I also wrote that entire thing, so, uh, okay, Australia and open. Are we sure? Yarnick's center should only be a minus 125 favorite to win it. Yeah, that's about right. I mean, again, they both have elite numbers talking about Yarnick's center and Carlitos Alcaraz. They are the two best players in the world. Their numbers, the way I do them again, 100 is an average player, 110 is elite. They're both like 117, 16 and 114-ish, right?

30:37That's where they land. They're just so much better than everybody else. And yes, Yarnick is the slight favorite. Yarnick has won all of his on hard courts, right? All his slams on hard courts. Do I have that right? Did he, did he finally win one not on a hard court last year, um, but that for the, for much of their career, it was center one, all the hard courts and Carlitos won the clay and the grass. Wimbledon. Wimbledon this last year, he probably, finally broke that. So, you know, this is Yarnick's surface, in other words, so he should be the slight favorite. Is this not a perfect example in gentlemen of the back if you could take this graphic again? Just the, what Drew talks about every, every tournament, right? Like every first. But this is, what, this is better odds than you could have bet center joke of it before the tournament, right? Like it's just, if you're looking that way, just, just wait, just wait, the out grass was what? He was like plus 160 something like that, so that's come down a little bit, but three other names on here. No, just bet it out. Uh, okay. Are we sure? Sam Darnold or Drake May will win Super Bowl MVP. I alluded to it earlier. I am about as sure, you know, look, is there a possibility that they don't, of course,

31:40but I'm about as sure as I can be when you ask this kind of question, as I remember being at any other Super Bowl, just because the Darnold story itself is so compelling, right? People have just been killing this guy for years. And here he is. Even last year when he had the great season, but then he had the bad two games to end the season. So now he's on the cusp. He's on the doorstep. What a story. What a, what a story. This is redemption story for Sam Darnold. And then if the Patriots do it, people love Drake, man, yeah, they will, you know, like his playoff performance will be overlooked. They'll bend over backwards, trying to give it to him in his second year. So I just, I don't know. I mean, could Dravy on break a few and you have those games that he had earlier in the year? Sure. I guess he could have that game, but I think this is about as quarterback heavy as it's ever been. I just, I don't even think, like, I think if the, if the Patriots are winning this game, I think Drake May is having a big game. And then I don't know what else we've seen. Like you're knocking his numbers from the past few weeks, and that's fair. But like, I mean, Ramundra Stevenson is probably the, the rightful second Patriot on the board.

32:41But I can't get to that. Let's put it this way. The Patriots don't have enough stars and other skill positions for you to gravitate towards them. Right. Right. May is still the biggest name. And in the Seahawks case, it's just that darn old story is so compelling. You go to Darnal. See, I was surprised, actually, that you're not more interested in a Darnal ticket than I am. Because with the past couple weeks, I'm kind of interested. Okay. Okay. Okay. You get a plus one 30. I'm kind of interested. Because there is more, you're getting more bang for your buck on that one than the May. Yeah. May with Patriots. Right. You get like 30 cents, basically difference between Drake May and what a Patriots money line. That may bet. Darnal here. Yeah. Yeah. I just think for me and you talking it out of the past couple weeks, it's not moving anywhere. It's not. Yeah. There's no rush. Absolutely no rush. Hey, look, I don't think I think there's a long shot. We're not staring at that could be in play here. I just think they're limited. I think with the, what the board is telling you here is we get to a backup quarterback with number 10. This drops off quick. Um, okay. Are we sure Kenneth Walker will score a touchdown in the Super Bowl? Because he is your biggest favorite on the board at minus 190. Oh, that's a rando.

33:41I think sweat that right? Uh, no, I'm not sure. Yeah, me neither. That's pretty quick. I mean, they would love to run the ball, you know, obviously it's easy to say they would love to run the ball, control the cloggy. Yes, he will get a lot of looks in those act sharpening, but man, I'm not going to get by this 190. No, we'll continue this on the other side. Yeah. We cap all the bets. Are we sure? On a numbers game right here at Vison. They sports betting network. We're getting ready for big game 60 with a big deal to match. Save $60 off of Vison pro annual subscription when you start up using promo code A and G. A and G is in attempting naked gymnastics. Wow. Become a Vison pro annual subscriber bet smarter all year long with full access to our daily best bets from Vison. Yes, real time drive Kings and circuit betting splits, AI powered prop tools and matchup analysis 24 seven video and full show replays on the Vison watch app, plus all our betting

34:45guides and expert pictures of the super enough coming March madness. Don't miss out on the big game deal. Visit Vison.com slash subscribe. He's promo code V, pardon me, promo code A and G. What did you say was again, attempting naked gymnastics to save $60 off of Vison pro annual subscription today. It's V S I N dot com slash subscribe. Kill Alexander Kelly Bidlin in on this Thursday morning crack top of the hour. We get tweets beating the book. This is from Kevin Ryan, Gil Bill Bell, check weighted 49 years for his girlfriend to be born. I think he can wait one more year to get into the hall of fame. There it is. Zinger man, a little big. Just so you know, Alex Huddled is also a Las Vegas resident. Oh, the guy who scaled these skyscraper is here from here in Las Vegas. I did not know that. That feels unshocking Kelly said that not me Sean Abbott plus 950 on golden state to win the Pacific division, especially if they add the honest at the deadline, Phoenix can only

35:48tie in the head to head tie breaker and they have two remaining versus the Lakers, including one in the final three games. What do you think about that? Really like it. It's one that I know Zach Cohen's been all over that division price. I'm with you though. That would be where I try to jump right away if he gets moved. Scotty, leisure shoot, leisure suit Kobe. If you have a substantial bet on the bucks down by one in the ball and Janice's hands are on the free throw line. Are you confident? He's now basically a physically bigger version of Russell Westbrook and not the MVP version of Westbrook. Yeah. Look, I've gone. I've done a lot of back and forth in my mind on this skill. Like I think over the past couple months, it's been like, okay. If I was the warriors, what would I be willing to move for us? I have come full circle in the past like 36 hours on this where it's not. It's still Yannis Antidacumbo in his prime years. You give up whatever you have to go. You have to put your don't worry about what your team looks like three years from now or anything. You have to put yourself in the warriors mindset. Here is Steph, the greatest player we've ever had, the greatest shooter who's ever lived.

36:49He changed the game. What can we do for this guy in his remaining two, three years, whatever it is? To make this relevant and worthwhile, bam, Yannis, that's all they're thinking about. The warriors will move, what's the expression, Helen, Helen, Helen, Helen, what's the expression? Heaven and Earth. Heaven and Earth, mountains. Yeah. Yeah. Skyscrapers, whatever. Yeah. Sure. Brian M. Can you have Kelly share the GoFundMe link for Jesse Pagula after her loss? I want to be sure she can make it home from Australia. Oh, absolutely. Yes, I'm going to tweet that out. She's going to need some help. She's going to need some help. And mile marker 420. This is very nice of you. He says, you and Kelly are absolutely great together. The timing of comments is perfect. He says, best show on Vs. And can't wait for crackman today. Glad you're back, Kelly. Thank you, mile marker 420. That's very nice of you. More, are we sure? What do you got? Uh, yeah. So you JVT, he just took a piece of the words to win the West. Oh, there you go. Okay. That's how he's playing it. Inside the hardwood handicapers group chat, real fascinating. I know. Little window into it.

37:50That's right. A little window. Coming up later on. Okay. Are we sure Bill Belichek should have been left off people's all saved balance. Well, okay. If you missed it earlier on the show, and I talked about it a little yesterday, it's, it's complicated, right? It's the immediately everybody goes to the pettiness angle, which could very well have been the rationale for some of the voters. Maybe it was for Bill Polion, right? But it was 11 people at least who didn't vote Bill Belichek in on the first ballot. When we talked about this, you know, yesterday Warren Sharper brought this up. I alluded to Gibbs and Lombardi not getting in on their first ballot. I don't know the case with Lombardi, but I know that this was the case for Gibbs as well, which is the way that the NFL Hall of Fame voting is structured. There's a backlog of players, and I don't know how we got here in the NFL where this didn't happen in baseball, but the NFL, you've got probably because there's 53 people on a roster. There's more players to begin with, right? And there's more positions. But whatever the case is, we have a history of players that just wait way longer than

38:54they should to get into the NFL Hall of Fame. I always tell the story. The only Hall of Fame ceremony I ever attended was when Art Monk and Darryl Green got in, and Reskins Van gave Art Monk a four minute standing ovation, which was our way of flipping the bird to the NFL Hall of Fame, right? Four minutes, by the way, is an eternity like it's uncomfortably long, but the point still remains now for Bella check, who absolutely should have gotten in on the first ballot, right? But that the format as we had this one voter talk about, he said, Hey, he raised his hand by Gregorian of the Kansas City star. He said, I didn't, I didn't not vote did a double negative. He goes, my vote was not for Bella check because not because of petting us, not because of deflate gate, not because of spy gate, but because I thought that LC Greenwood Ken Anderson who was the third, there was another Roger Craig of the Niners, I thought that their eligibility was running out so much that I wanted to make sure that they got in because they've been snubbed all this year.

39:55So that's why I forego, I was able to forego or I decided to forego the vote on Bella check. And I think I believe him entirely, he, that's the way he voted. So he voted with his conscience that way, figuring his first ballot really matter because I don't think football people ever made a big deal about first ballot until this now, whereas with the baseball right, all first ballot, all events, the biggest deal in the world, right? God forbid anybody get on the first ballot. Um, and he felt like he had to vote this way because of rule changes, right? The process of it, which they were doing, yeah, it's always been messed up, though, that way. All right. I got one more I want to get with you, get you on, are we sure Todd Munkin was a bad choice by the browns. You know, I've not been able to talk about this yet. Um, I don't know, I don't know, I'm not sure is we never know with coaches, man, we just don't know. I want to say it's comically bad, but uh, most people do think that you and I have been keeping everybody updated on who they've been talking to recently. So where we were at recently with this job search, I don't know if it's the worst choice you could have made. I mean, you're, you're already at the, that look great, though, that look great.

40:59That look good, Bob. Not great, Bob. Not great, Bob. Um, I don't know, you, you have no idea, right? You have no idea once these coordinators get to be a head coach, what happens? None of us can be sure about anything with this, but Jim Schwartz took his toys and went home. He was not happy about it. So I mean, that's the worst part about it. Right? Like is that you clearly, you, the priority was to keep Jim Schwartz some correct. And you screwed up. So he screwed that up. Well, apparently he didn't talk to Jim Schwartz about how he'd feel if they went in rather direction. Right. And Jim Schwartz made it clear. He's like, well, see ya. I'm not coming back, which also could be, you know, that could have been the same situation in Buffalo, but Joe Brady was actually included. Yeah. Well, there you go. Once again, Kevin Stefansky in Atlanta, Jesse Minner in Baltimore, Jeff Hathley in Miami, John Harbour in the Giants, Mike McCarthy, still the most shocking to me at Pittsburgh. Robert Salah to the Titans, Joe Brady, elevated in Buffalo, Todd Munking goes from the Ravens, OC to the Cleveland headman and Jim Schwartz is out the door at least temporarily.

42:00If not permanently as defensive coordinator, because he, he walked out of the building. He's still under contract though. Hopefully to remaining now Arizona and Las Vegas, but I'll say the same thing about Arizona and Las Vegas as they did about Cleveland, which is you're, you're at this point, just hiring who nobody else wants. Yeah. I mean, unless Brady's had someone in mind, right? Well, he does. He has kubiac in mind, but apparently none of the other teams felt it was worthwhile waiting for him. Yeah. Sure. I have to see Hawks minus four. Where's the Patriots taking immediately on Sunday night? And I had a Yannis next team warriors plus four 88 over at Kalshi. I'll probably make that Darnell MVP bet, but I don't have it yet. You think that's big. I haven't made it yet. I might join you on Yannis the Warriors. I again, I think that's the best bet on the board. So I'm with you there. No NBA for me tonight yet. Be up on visa.com later. If I do end up on anything golf, though, that starts here very soon. JJ spawn Chris Gotter up mag for it. McNeely in the outright market for me. And then Taylor Pendrith and Pearson Kudy in top 20. Pearson Kudy.

43:01You see on that. It's a gill favorite. That's a list that I sent you. Uh, yes. That's great. Greatest names and golf, not greatest names. It was a, uh, it was a more specific list than that. Yes. It was the country club in name folks that have never met people like me list Parker. Parker Kudy. I just blanked on the brother's name. You might have listed Parker, but that's let's brother Pearson. I listed both of them, which I think, okay, which I think Pearson is more fitting for the country club Pearson. I'm both pretty bad. I mean, you spelled that out. Pearson, like, come on. Uh, you also have Drake May, the over 33, like, I do have Drake May over as Russian prop. Sorry, boys. Uh, sorry. 33 to half over. That's right. I had to cover. Um, okay. And then, uh, Zach Cohen was, uh, was with us earlier as well. And, uh, Zach is, uh, he's got some NBA plays, wizards, money line versus the Bucks. Zach's always coming in here, giving us the worst NBA teams. I'm so glad he set, that set that up though, just so I could add in what I did. Like, yeah, I, I, I show some value on the wizards money line tonight too. I'm not bad, though. He's got a couple props. Kobe White 20 plus points versus the heat tonight. And then, uh, Musa Diabate double, double versus the Mavs.

44:01Let's go. Plus 220 for your hornets, uh, then he's on Sasha's Variv and Carlitos, uh, semi-final late night tonight in Melbourne over three and a half sets, meaning that, uh, each one of them's got to win at least a set. More specifically, if you really want to know it's going to go, he just needs Sasha's Variv to come up with a set, basically. And it's possible, right? He could, we could very well win in a tiebreaker if he got that far. No, maybe we can get it before that. It's at minus 141 for it to go more than three sets of other ones. Those are Zack's plays. And did you have a Super Bowl play at all? Can you remember? Um, I don't know if they were official. Yeah. He's leaning certain ways. Yeah. Side and leaning under, leaning under, leaning under, leaning Patriots, I believe, from a Zach, but not official plays. Crack. Next. Unscripted. Bill Crackenburn. Exclusively. The numbers came at Veecin. These sports betting network coming back.