A Numbers Game | January 29, 2026 | Hour 1

0:00A number is called the story of those idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Kill I like Xander. He's gone. He said, good Thursday morning, see what is a numbers game of these sports betting network visa.com game plus I hard radio, YouTube TV, and of course, serious acts of channel 158, Kill I like Xander and the return of Kale by the lot. Everybody. Biddling back from my grains. How you doing? Good, man. Good. Glad to be back. Good morning. Uh, pretty bad, huh? Migrate. It's been fun. It's been fun. We were texting about this yesterday. It's the run up because you, you've suffered from these for a long time. Yeah. So you are able to anticipate them coming. Yeah. That's got to be almost as bad as the migraine itself. It is. You just know you never know how bad they're going to be. Sometimes I just were through and brush them off. They're no problem. And usually like a couple of times a year, they take me down for a couple days. Well, good to have you back. Yeah, man. Danny Higgins did a great job. And you're dead. I'm sure he did. That's always better.

1:00And behind the glass. Once again, with the, uh, the normal crew of Chris Larry, I don't know if Rob is in there today. Rob is here today. Darnel, of course. Yeah. Back there as well. Make it all this happened on the show today. Zach and Crack. As we always do on Thursday, Zach Cohen, uh, going to talk NBA, Australia and open with us as well from Melbourne, uh, and of course, any thoughts he has on Super Bowl 60 as well. And then Crack, man, let's script it with the crack. We have Bill Crackenberg. We're looking forward to that. So are we sure it's almost a gurus, uh, a little later on? And Kelly said, he said, I'm not coming back unless we get to talk Yannis trade odds again. So when I said, that's his condition, it's the only condition on which I had to come back on. So we'll do that. I think you made a good bet. I did. Yeah. I made a bet. I did make a bet. Let me put it this way. I don't want to ruin it. Your bet is my favorite available bet. Yeah. We'll talk about that. Uh, and then the country, we'll go country club and here momentarily talk farmers insurance open. Typically, we would talk Australia open, uh, Jesse Pagola loses yesterday to, uh, in

2:02the overnight, our Schrodinger's cat, you missed the whole Schrodinger's cat thing. Oh gosh. Schrodinger's cat thing didn't work out for us when we woke up this morning. Um, Pagola had two set points in set number two. She could not get it done and she loses to her back in us. So with that, we lose that one and we lose also our, our 31 to one, which is our, our last remaining future. So in the end, uh, our Australian open, I'll remember it for two things. One, that it, I don't know if I'm going to have another pick because I think Saba Laca is the proper favorite over Robacola at right around the price. She is about minus 180. And I think center and Alcarazza are going to roll into the finals here in the semis in the men's side. And then, you know, just enjoy that finals match. I might make a prop kind of bet, you know, game spread or, uh, you know, three sets to nothing kind of thing. But I'm not sure that I will or not as far as match bets. I think we're done. Um, so in the end, I will remember this tournament for two things, one that it was an extremely chalky tournament and the fact that we ended up even modestly in the black

3:03was an accomplishment because usually I'm just been dog right where, right? So that's like almost a, yeah, moral victory in that sense because you had to be really precise on which dogs and the other thing is I'll just remember what could have been, right? The biggest one is Lorenzo Musetti thing. You weren't here for this, but one set away from caching a massive quarter in addition to the pool of quarter and he gets an injury and he can't continue. It's, it will be the worst beat of our entire 2026 calendar. A couple of these. I just saw the tweets coming in. It's like, I don't even want to check. I don't want to check. So I'm still. And then someone reminded me. We also had a match earlier in the tournament for a Priscilla Han, the Australian, uh, who was one game away from winning her match and then her opponent walked off the court. So it was, you know, it's, it was sort of a, uh, a gut punch of a tournament also in that respect. Did Ben Wilson really come on here the other day? He did. Fadeiga. Wow. He did. No, no. He backediga. Oh, he backediga. So he's just the kiss of death. We've got him now for everything. He's the kiss of death with anything involving you. Got it. So we'll do country club with Kelly coming up.

4:04Um, the one thing I'll tell you over the past couple of days, because I've just been a week and all hours and everything is really the appreciation that I've gained for you watching this tournament. Oh, yeah. Although, although last night I finally couldn't anymore. I mean, is it maybe the worst possible hours for us doing this show? It's about as bad. It's about as bad as it could possibly get. And the first, and the first four days, there's no chance you can give pictures. There's too many matches to handicap. And then once it finally gets to the third round, you can actually get picks on the air, but just in terms of following your bets, it's like, okay, I can't do this. Yeah. Yeah. When they start up, like, right, when you should be winding down, can I update something from yesterday? Also, we talked about the bill, Bella check thing because we, we talked about it several times yesterday. I know this doesn't have anything to do with sports betting, but I think it, like, it deserves clarification because stuff like this really bothers me when the media like consistently gets something wrong. Yeah. So yesterday I came on the show. I've recently famously billed, Bella check did not get voted into the NFL Hall of Fame on the first ballot. And I started out the show by saying, all right, let's hold two thoughts in our heads at the same time. Like on the one hand, this is not unprecedented, right? And I brought up Vince Lombardi, not getting voted in on the first ballot.

5:06I brought up Joe Jackson Gibbs, the greatest coaches ever lived, not getting in on his first ballot, right? And then later Warren Sharp came on and he said, so I said, you know, so people immediately with, if I bring up Joe Gibbs, they think I'm being biased in some way. No, I'm making a point about it. Warren Sharp came on later. He said, you know, for all the pettiness, right, because the, you know, my point was there's precedent for it and they all should be in on the first ballot hall of the, in the first ballot, right? There's no world where Vince Lombardi, Joe Gibbs or bill, Bella check, shouldn't be in on the first ballot, right? And Warren Sharp came in later, he said, you know, part of this is also the format, perhaps of the voting. Maybe it's not all pettiness about deflate gate and spy gate and bill polian leading some uprising in the voting room about, hey, let's make this guy wait a year, right? The pettiness of it. Both things can be true. And so we do have now a testimonial from one of the voters who did not vote for bill Bella check. I don't know if you saw this, but everyone is kind of ignoring this guy and they're still

6:08going with the whole, because it's more fun to say like, yeah, I can't believe Bella checks not in, right? Like, it's more fun to do that. So this voter by the name of, I want to get it right here, Kansas City star columnist, Vahey Gregorian, I believe I'm pretty not see that okay. If I'm not, I apologize, Mr. Gregorian. He said the representative, he's the representative of the Kansas City Chiefs media contingent for the Hall of Fame voters. And he said there was reasons for not supporting bill check. He said they had nothing to do with spy gate deflate gate. The scandals as we said, they know widely reported to be the major reason for his exclusion. So ESPN, he says wrote these pieces that it's all about deflate gates, all about spy gate deflate the politics that led to this situation. And he says, oh, and they actually quoted an article right the only explanation was the cheating stuff. It really bothered some guys. So this guy said, perhaps that affected some voters, perhaps not. He doesn't know, but he says I can't and won't try to speak for others as a condition of being a voter to not divulge the liberations, but the so called cheating stuff is not at all the only possible explanation because it certainly didn't ultimately influence

7:11my vote. He said he's simply at other people he was worrying about making the hall with two few votes to go around. Bella check being one of five non modern player candidates up for a vote. The other four were patriots on the Robert Kraft in the contributor category and three senior player candidates, Ken Anderson, the Bengals, Roger Craig of the Niners, and LC Greenwood of the Steelers. And so for Gregorian, this voter, he said the rub for him was that due to recently instituted Hall of Fame rules, voters could only vote for it most three of those five creating a situation where five men each needed 40 votes from a room where there are only 150 total votes to go around. Who's going to vote for three of them? So he said he was much more concerned about that trio of senior players who he said have been snubbed for decades might not get another chance at the ballot due to backlog of senior players. So he voted for them with the assumption that Bella check, of course, will be back next year. And they, those three would not quote, I felt duty bound to vote for the richly deserving seniors.

8:11Most likely whenever ever hearing again, I understand why people are offended that he isn't going in the first moment he can in the end, though, I felt more compelled by what I perceived to be last chances and looming lost causes within the system as we have it. A system I hope the hall will see fit to change now. And this is exactly what happened with Joe Gibbs, right? But we don't have the media we have now and people are stupid and think that Joe Gibbs wasn't 10 times the coach bill balance check was, but that's just me talking, right? So if this is what man, this is what makes it weird, too, because then the hall put out this statement yesterday, basically saying, I'll paraphrase, oh, anybody who didn't like there's going to be some kind of retribution. That was the theme of their statement. When in fact, they should be looking internally, it's your format and this backlog that creates this. So the, my first takeaway from this is, yes, absolutely, by the way, there might be five or six that are petty, but I'm just saying, it might not always, it might not all be petty. No, I think well said, well explained, this is like, I'm just rolling my eyes, because it's one of those, you got to get out in front of this, right?

9:12Like you can get out, if you think someone should be able to see that situation coming, right? Whatever that voter just spelled out that you were talking about with having to spread out the votes, then you start doing easy math and see that there's a chance that bill balance checks, not going to be in the first ballot. I understand why there's outrage over this. It's ridiculous. Having said all of that, it's silly that these guys are not first ballot hall of famous, but when you know that and you know, there's been outcry about this before, you got to get out in front of this with PR. Well, this is, this is the difference between the NFL hall and the baseball hall, bring again, the Barry Bond thing into it. Baseball doesn't have a backlog. Like there's no excuse for Barry Bond's being in other than the people who are like, I were just like, all the PD people were keeping out, right? This is, this is plagued the NFL for a long time where again, guys, take the whole wide receiver position itself, like Terrell Owens and Art Monk and Chris Carter, like all the years, those guys have to wait to get into the hall of fame because of this problem.

10:14And so it only comes up now because baseball makes a big deal about first ballot. Football really never has until this moment and people are like, I can't believe that this shouldn't be, you know, they use my line for bonds. There shouldn't be a football hall of fame. Bill Balecheck doesn't get in the first ballot and you know what, you're right. There shouldn't be, but there also shouldn't have been one for Vince Lombardi or Joe Gibbs or all this. And this is the reason why. And so again, at least 11 of the 50 voters did not vote Balecheck into the hall on the first ballot. We will never know my guess is now how many of those people were, how many were due to pettiness about to flake gate and spy gate, which is only pettiness, in my opinion, because you should be able to separate what actually the guy did on the field and what you have however you think otherwise. And again, it's my plaque theory, put them in the hall. You can put a plaque next to it, Z.A. It was accused and then had to pay fines for deflate gates by gate. Here's what those things are, but don't, don't have the arrogance to think you shouldn't put them in. Um, we'll never know now, Bay, you know, this guy coming out and saying this, this

11:15also gives cover for some others who might have been petty and now don't want to appear petty and say, yeah, that's why I didn't do it either. Yeah. So I don't know. Right. He's very easily good. I just wanted to clarify that because I'm so sick and tired of no one talking about this aspect of it. Yeah. That was a good call by you, man. Yeah. Jimmy Johnson was great though. He was great. Just freaking out. He's just freaking out. He's like not going to home fame now or something. He's saying. Yeah. Yeah. Some on ESPN yesterday talking about spying it. We don't try to do it. Uh, we'll talk. Yannis. We'll talk golf next on a numbers game right here at Visa. We're here because you want an edge. That's what separates listeners from winners, but let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bets home pros win because they've got the tools, the data and the discipline. And now so can you visa programs you access to the same real time insights the sharps use. No secrets. No fluff. Just actionable info that moves markets tap the link and see why serious betters are turning knowledge into profit with Vs in pro numbers game on

12:26Vs in these sports. Many one of that smarter star with smarter insights right now you can check out Greg Peterson's college basketball best bets Superbowl MVP history. Oh, I like that. Little MVP history. Zach Cohen's Aussie open picks. You got to cover it was that later with the Australian open to later to you can check out Zachary cones NBA best bets. Jonathan Davis's NHL picks and props and Superbowl prop betting tips right now use promo code ANG ANG is in a numbers game. The save $60 off a visa pro annual subscription at vcden.com slash subscribe. We get tweets that made in the book y'all are the best. This is from, uh, let's see. Let's start with, uh, who we got here, Danny Burmette. I yeah, that hawks underplay Monday. Bidlin gave out gave us all a headache. Hope you're feeling better. Thanks, that's thanks, Danny. Thanks, Danny. It's no need for that Rob Graham. Good morning, ANG. Happy your feeling better Kelly for me debilitating migraine. It's only minus 38 with windshield where I am. Have yourselves a fantastic dad. I don't know where Rob is. Oh, man.

13:27I was joined Fred courier check again with Vs. He's like, Hey, man, how you doing? Here's a picture. Fred courier just sent in another picture. He said, glad you're back updated weather. We lost a few vehicles still spring. God bless. Todd was talking about in Pittsburgh. Todd wish they are expecting lows. Friday and Saturday. So tomorrow and Saturday of minus nine and minus 11, which would set records in Pittsburgh. Just name one. Really? Yes. Uh, Johnny Ringo came migraine. Bidlin in the hissy is old tweet. Michael Burns pronounced correctly. Gill, uh, Vahe is his name, uh, the Kansas City star reporter. I live in say Lucy used to work for post dispatch here. He's really good writer. I'm in by the way, Vahe wrote that whole thing really well. I thought, right? He's like, Hey, could be petting us, but I'm just going to tell you honestly at why it is that I voted how I vote. And I believe every word of it, uh, Edward LaFever. Gill, I had Rebokken and Sabelaker to reach the finals in Darnel for MVP of the Subaru. Only one bet to go. What could go wrong? Thanks for all the tennis talk. You are the best. Good on you.

14:27Edward LaFever, uh, Sabelaker Rebokken is what it is. Tronsky woke up to catch the Pagula. The Pagula surge at the end of the second set condolences. Tennis is an individual sport. Players are playing for themselves, not country. So it irks me to see the flags waving. Yes, we see Spain and Poland flags too. At a time of turmoil at home, some nerve. Yeah, I was always I'm kind of with you. I it doesn't bother me, but I'm with you like the whole. Yeah, making it a national thing is kind of. Cordy to me, but you know what? Maybe that's our American perspective on it. Maybe it means more to other country. To have less abundance of players at that level. Dell mind the gap radio. Any thought about one segment with guest or not about responsible gaming, especially underage gambling, I spent 25 years giving scores on sports line New Jersey, 9761313. Wow. You know, crack and I get into it sometimes. We don't do it every time, but we spend about a segment. I don't know every four or five months, I would say, yeah, where we talk about this subject because it's not we we are very aware and and very sensitive to the underage part of

15:29it for sure. Las Vegas 514. Yo, welcome back you uncally, Bill and those migraines are here in no joke. Any suggestions on how to get rid of them? I hear really eating here really eating spicy food or pressing your forehead against freezing cold metal faucets. Well, that works. Everybody's got something. Everybody's got something. I'll tell you that. We had the French fries from McDonald's and Coke suggestion the other day. I really wish I had something for you. What works for me? But no, there's not really anything. Really gun guns. Hope you guys are staying warm. Nothing like a brisk minus six in the morning here in New Hampshire. Give me a super bowl. It's cold. Who's with me? I'm with you. Money gun. You know who's not with you? This kid right here. No, no. Put in the dough. I'm worried about the weather in Santa Clara. Bees bets. Imagine all the Hall of Fame votes rivers would have stolen from Bill had he not unretired on a bright note. Sanders is a pro-bola. That's right. Should do our Sanders pro-bola. What a joke. What a joke. Hey, look, Norman Vegas says, look who got his photo into the RJ this morning. The review journal Bill Crackenberg got his photo in there a brown down a junk crack a brown down a jungle and drum machine elastic phrasing mirror sunglasses tailored suit

16:32stiff ritual transformed to a soulful groove, effortlessly smooth, unshakably cool. Sorry. I woke up and watched the 83 All Star game anthem again, where we talking about something else. Yes, Marvin Gays 1983 national anthem rendition before the NBA All Star game remains the gold standard in my opinion with drum machine. You could hear people in the arena going crazy when he was thinking of the national anthem. This comes up because again, we did the Charlie Puth segment yesterday and the the line moved three seconds north more in other words as he usually does from the beginning of the segment to the end, Bill 80 putting it in the newsletter this morning for anybody who wanted to see that segment about Charlie Puth and our national anthem. Scott, New York, Mess 16. Gill isn't the hall of infamous a subset of the Hall of Fame, Black Sox, Pete Rose, Arroyd Spygate, Deflake Gate, all shaped their sports and the story should be told heck, even their torpedo bat could have a story. Yeah. Oh, Rob Graham, Northern Saskatchewan. That's right. That's where he is. First time being above minus 40 for a week. What? Yeah.

17:33All right. Maybe I'm going to have to do that Fahrenheit calculator, Northern Saskatchewan. Yeah. Yeah. All right. You ready to do this? A little country clubbing? Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it. Golf start. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. Farber's insurance open. We tee off here at about two hours, two hours. Zander Shoffler, your short shot, 15 to 1, Ludwig Ober, plus 1750 over at draft games, Cameron, young, 20 to 1, everybody else, 24 to 1 or longer. Gill, you know I'm excited. We finally got a real tournament. You did not like last week's tournament. I don't like those first couple of weeks, especially with, there's some about the Hawaii swing when you're doing two tournaments, but when you only go out there for one and it's kind of the birdie fest of the Sony open and then you go back to the M X and it's a birdie fest in multiple courses. It's good warm up for the players for us for better's me.

18:33The love. But would you like to say something about Scottie, Shoffler, winning though, good on Scottie. He's really good at golf. Yeah. It's really good at golf. Despite all that, he still wins. Yes. Despite all that, he still wins. That's how good he is, man. That's how good he is. Okay. We do have multiple courses in play this week. If you are handicapping this at home, Torrey Pines South, they will, everybody will play three rounds on Torrey Pines North. You play one song. So you're going to play mix up the courses these first two days. We'll cut after Friday, top 65 and tie his head to the weekend. This is a little bit of a bigger player pool than we're going to see at most spots this season. You do have Brooks Keppga playing in this is most people are probably aware of you are a golf fan. That also makes you add a couple more spots. Remember, Brooks Keppga coming back, but they're not going to let him box out some other players from some of these tournaments. So Torrey Pines, very famous golf course. This is very long. Torrey Pines South. This is the longest golf course they will play on all season. So a lot of people will go and handicap this event. You just look at big distance guys. That's usually how I approach it. Gill, I'll be honest.

19:34So we run all these numbers. I ended up landing on some guys that aren't the longest in the field. So I'm a little interested. So I'm not exactly what I'm looking for approach wise at the current numbers. But man, this is this is a course that is going to demand quality play from all all aspects of your game. So there are other ways to get it done here. Think having a big driver does help. You are going to get into these approach buckets of kind of 175, 200 plus yards coming into the green. But there are other ways to win. As you see some of the past winners are saying, English Matthew Povone, Max Homa, it's three years in a row of not super long guys off the tee. So I do, I do not remember Matthew Povone. Yeah. Well, this was, uh, yeah, Povone wins and then dipped, dipped to a lift after, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That happened pretty quickly. Uh, so yeah. Yeah. But there was weather in play last year. That's why Harris English is only eight under par. That comes into play too. But I, I think it's a good example of yes, you want to ideally have distance off the tee here, but there are other ways, uh, to get it done as far as what I ended up on.

20:38I think the top of the board is questionable. Zander Shoffley, um, that, you know, this is going to be similar to chef last week, right? Like Zander Shoffley's 15 to one. This is first tournament back. If I'm betting this tournament, I'm usually looking for guys that have gotten a weaker two underneath them. So can Zander Shoffley win this? Is he the best player in the field? Absolutely. At 15 to one, ma'am. Okay. You go looking further down the board. Uh, Ludwig Obert was a, he had to withdraw last week because of an illness. Plus seven fifth, uh, 1750. I love Ludwig. I've bet him at this tournament multiple times and just have questions. And I think this early in the season, when you have questions on guys, it's hard to get involved at least pre tournament in the outright market. If you want to get involved in tournament in the outright market, see how Ludwig plays around or two, that's probably what I would suggest. Um, Cameron, young was the first guy I really started considering. He's out to 20 now. I think if you can get him in the 20s, Cameron, young is probably a bet by the time I got to looking at this yesterday. He was 18 or 19 everywhere. Uh, so he was kind of, I kind of decided to go another way with the card. Um, Patrick can't lay, I think he's got some concern still anyways. I think it's a questionable top of the board.

21:39So I went that, that kind of that next tier down did go with all class players in my opinion in the outright market. I do think you are going to see one of the better players in the world win this week. Um, so I started my card to JJ Spon. This is a multiple winner last year. Uh, he's probably that next tier down of a really top tier golfers that we're talking about. He has to start this season a ton of experience on Tory Pines has doesn't have a ton of great finishes here, but as a San Diego kid, ton of experience here, he knows the course is not the longest guy off the tee, but he's solid everywhere stat wise. Chris Godler up the other one that I added 31 to one. This guy has a win already. I know, I know most people don't want to go back to someone after they just won, but kill this guy. Okay, not the strongest approach numbers on that win in the win in the Sony, but he gets it done off the tee and he gets it done with the putter. And that's what's going to come into play here. So if he has a even mediocre approach week, I think we're still talking about God are up in this race. Um, so I played him in the Maverick McNeely guy that I haven't played as much as some others in the past. No, there's been a lot of a lot of McNeely fans out there waiting for him to kind of get

22:41to get to this moment, uh, to win tournaments like this. He added distance last year. I think that's going to be a big, big factor heading into the season. I think McNeely is a guy that I will be betting here, a fairly often early until he wins a tournament. JG spawn Chris God are up Maverick McNeely and the outrates and then top 20s on Taylor Pendraith and Pearson Coat tournament starts at about two and a half, two hours, uh, Chris Felica's live texting the show. He says, I'm tired of trying to make Ludwig O'Bear a thing wins something big actually can't end all hype. I hear you, Chris. I hear you. I hear him. I do. Zach Cohen, NBA NFL and tennis next on a numbers game. He said these sports betting network back on a numbers game live at these, but it's sort of a sort of, you know, downtown Las Vegas, you know, Alexander Kellen villain in the house. Everybody back from his migraines. Yes. Give it up for Kelly. What do you do? You just put yourself in a dark room and then you just sleep. Is that pretty much man? Put on a TV and brighten this real low and volume low.

23:44Yeah. Watch stuff that you don't remember. Like I stream so many shows. I know I can't even tell you what I watch. Oh, of course, it's great. But by the way, they answered your 40 degrees question earlier. A Rob Graham pointing out to your question that 40 degrees Celsius, same as 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Well, in fact, I will add it is the only temperature where they are the same. I remember the river. I was going over. I was a little Fahrenheit Celsius conversion, ladies and gentlemen, Zach Cohen joins is now courtesy of progressive guest line. You can follow him on Twitter at betting on X coveted Twitter handle that he procured for himself. Zach, how you doing, man? I'm good. I've teased Kelly every single day for hardwood handicap. Resist week. I haven't gotten them once. Well, Zach, I feel worse for you than anybody on. How was that a guilt? How many times did you invite them on? He was supposed to come on Tuesday and then what Wednesday and Friday, we're not going to have them on till next week. Yeah. Well, how did the long shots crew go without you? They did just fine. They did just fine. We get them organized with Matt West recorded.

24:45We got it up. Yeah. They can do it. I just kept telling Zach I'd be there the next day. All right. Zach, let's start. Let's start with tennis because I don't have anything probably anymore for the tournament I'm guessing. I don't know yet. Don't hold me to that. But you do have something here in the men's allies. Yeah. I played over three and a half sets in Zverev against Alchoraz. I just think the way that Zverev has played throughout the course of this tournament has been really kind of what everybody's been asking him to do over the last couple of months and that he's being a little bit more aggressive with his forehead, whether that's with plus one opportunities off his serve or just opportunities along the baseline within rallies to take chances for winners or just bigger shots like this is a guy that normally just taps that forehead over. But he has made some improvements there and I think he's also got a little bit better with his transition game with coming up to the net and having one of the best serves on tour gives you a really high floor within matches and I just think I'd be really surprised if he can't serve his way to a set. At some point in this match, it's a match that I do think Alchoraz will win. I think we're going to get Alchoraz center again.

25:46I just think that Zverev can force a four to fit set. And again, for just putting Sasha Zverev's cold career in context, he got to two slam finals in his career. This is like the, the, the problem of living in the era of Federer and Adalyn Jokovic who are older than you. And then missing that transition point where you had your shot, right? And now these two kids that are younger than you center in Alchoraz, you're never going to beat him kind of feeling to it. Jokov, excuse me, Zverev was in two finals. He was in the US Open Final against Dominic team. The one where Jokovic hit the ball girl with the tennis ball and he got to qualify. That was his shot. And he had it on his racket to win it and he gacked it. And then really wasn't the French Open Final against Alchoraz a couple years ago. He got a bad line called. Remember this Zach, where the young patented like, I'm sorry, sorry, no, it's, it's out actually or in whatever it was with the French because they don't use the Hawkeye in that case or thinking overrided.

26:47So that's where it is. So also, yeah. I'll see Open Final last year. I'll see Open Final last year. I forgot about that. But he's the guy I always joke about with you that I would like, I would bet he's made 40 straight quarter finals. Like he's always into the second week, but like he's never like winning anything. I mean, you'll take his career, I guess, but it's got to kill him that he's never won one of these. Zach, say he can win one set here today against Carlitos. That's the bet. Yes. Sverif. Yeah. It's essentially both players to what it's at. Okay. All right. Um, what have you thought about the, how has the tournament been for you in its entirety? I've had a bad tournament so far. I have not done well with sides or totals. I've not done well with futures. So really hoping to revocate a good pizza, but like, otherwise, I'll be, you know, really in the, in the negative here. Yeah. I saw the sabileca. I did catch part of the sabileca match yesterday against fiddle lead. A man is she firing on all cylinders. So we'll say that's a great, uh, it's a great final. We shall see about that. Okay. Um, they'll make more tennis after the Australian Open as we talked about going to go to the Middle East and then to the, uh, the American hard courts as hard courts season, just

27:49getting underway to the national basketball association. Uh, you have some plays tonight. Where do you want to start? Yeah. I have a bunch of that. Uh, we can also talk a little bit, you know, so I know that Kelly probably has some opinions on that that we weren't able to talk about on the pod. I do have a lot of thoughts there, but let's start with the wizards against the bucks because I always come on this show and give you guys the best of the games. And I do like Washington on the money line tonight against the Milwaukee team that has lost three straight games and six of the last seven. I think that this bucks team is pretty close to lifeless without y'all know something to group on the floor. And I, I always find ways to kind of play them. Whether that's player props or not, I think the Ryan Rollins is a player that when y'all just doesn't play does tend to put up big numbers, but I do really like Washington in this game. Washington has been way more competitive lately. They've actually covered in four of their last five. They're coming off the straight up win over Portland as a six and a half point dog. And I talk a lot about bad teams, but like there are talented bad teams. This is one of them. The wizards have a lot of young talent on the roster.

28:49Their guards are starting to play some really good basketball. Trey Johnson being, you know, a lights out shooter and somebody that's really coming on at his rookie season. And I just kind of think that Washington playing at home against this Milwaukee team, I'd be really surprised if they can't get in the wind tall. Yeah. Good for you, Zach, because this is the classic example game go where I'm like, yeah, I've got Washington like minus one 20. They should be small favorites in this game, but I don't really feel like that. You don't want to live through it. I don't want to live through that. I don't want to live through that. It's the old Jason Weingarten. My model shows the Tigers at three dollars. Do I really want to spend the next in those days? It was like three and a half hours watching this. This is where I would appreciate that. This is often a lot of times he and I will not align, but he's taking a play that I was can heavily considered and decided to pass on. Um, I was the worst part about being me as I watch all the games that I play. So like, I'll have my friends in a group chat talking about like an awesome game that's going on. I'm like, no, I'm watching the wizards. Yeah. I always appreciate Zach coming on the show and giving us the poo poo platter of NBA dreams.

29:49Uh, it's a bet on here. Uh, you have a Kobe White prop tonight as well. Yeah, so I had this last night and it lost. It's Kobe White to score 20 plus points. He only had 14 last night before that though. He had 22 plus and five consecutive games and I do really like to match up with the heat. As opposed to the one you have last night, Miami is one of the worst teams in the league at defending non corner threes and white scores like 40% of his points from that area of the floor. Miami's also a really weak defensive team when talking about inside 10 feet and white has gotten a lot better with his floater game getting to the basket. So it's kind of everything. He's a little bit more elusive off the dribble and I do think he's going to have a pretty big game tonight. And this is a game with a very high total. These are two teams that play at some of the fastest paces in basketball. I think it's going to be up and down. I'd be surprised if white can't, you know, make his mark on it. Okay. Um, NBA in general right now where, uh, how do you feel about the Celtics in the east? How do you feel about the thunder's dominance or lack of dominance now, perhaps in the west

30:50to where where you macro on this league? Yes. So there was big news that came down last night and feels like it was almost hitting the Jason Tatum. Yes. Considering sitting out the rest of the season, I feel like the people are kind of brushing it aside. But if he's not out there, Boston has no business being at the top of the odds board at the Eastern Conference. So that was huge news to me. I, if Tatum's back shore, like I've talked about the Celtics team a lot, I don't expect Tatum to come back at 100% health. That was a serious injury. But if he's like 70% of the player that he once was and he's eating into like the minutes that Baylor Shireman and like Jordan Walls are giving you, like then yeah, it's going to help them a ton. And also, I think that they'd look to be buyers at the deadline. But with now some uncertainty surrounding him, I don't see Boston as the best team in Eastern Conference. I actually wrote the other day about the Cavaliers being a really good bet to win the east just because this team is now really kind of figuring things out since the start of January. There are a top five team in both offensive reigning, top 10 team and defensive reigning in

31:50that span. And they're starting to get a little bit healthier. I know that Mobley just got out for one to three weeks of the cap strain. That seems like it was precautionary, but eventually they're going to have their bodies back. And I think they're going to be better off this season than they were in last post season because I think the Jalen Tyson is just a stud for them. Like the second year player is a good shooter. He can get to the rim. He's a pretty solid positional defender. I ended there a better team than they were a year ago, even if the numbers might not say that. Yeah. Back to the Jason Tatum thing for a second. So he's he's considering not returning because of how well the team is doing without him for one. Right. And he doesn't want to disrupt the flow. I'm guessing that's part of it, but the real impetus, right, is, hey, guess what, ladies of gentlemen? As documented on this show many times, you can't really come back from a Achilles that quickly. I know Dr. Chal thought Aaron Rodgers could do it in a minute and a half, but it's just just hack medicine, right? So, and this from, you know, again, these are people trying to play at the top level of their sports. And so Jason Tatum probably is weighing all these things and who knows?

32:54Maybe he doesn't come back this year, which we all kind of assumed he would. Yeah. I guess I read into it as like he's trying to walk back some of the stuff that got out early in the season. Exactly. I don't really know if that, like, I don't want to overreact and say he's definitely not coming back at some point, right? But I, that's what it feels like to me is he's trying to walk back some of the leaks that happen early in the season. What it sounds to be like is maybe he'll just show up for the playoffs. Yeah. Yep. Could be. Yeah. Speculate. You have one more prop before a while. We go from the NBA. Yeah. I have a Musa Diabata to have a double double against the Mavericks tonight. That's plus 220 only putting a half unit on it. I was kind of flirting with over nine to half points and the over nine to half rebounds. I just figured why not take the plus 220. The Mavericks have been one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the entire NBA this season, which is kind of crazy. Considering the log gem they seem to have at center before the year started, but injuries have kind of depleted them there. Diabata is a really good energy big. He's had 10 plus points in four straight games. Double doubles in two of the last three. And I do think he's going to have a pretty big game in the statute tonight.

33:56All right. Zach, hang out with us if you would. We must get your thoughts on Super Bowl 60. I know there's only 10 days of, it's only 10 days away. 10, Kelly. Where's the counter? 10. Kelly's like, which two days should I do this for this calendar? I'll come back more Zach Cohen Super Bowl 60 and more. It's a numbers game. It feasts in the sports betting network numbers game on feces these sports betting network unmatched transparency with the records updated daily AI betting analysis real time global betting info and alerts directly from the pros sharp plays dot com check them out. You can scan the QR code for more. That's the sharp plays, but the, uh, the URL is sharp plays dot com without without without the word the beforehand check them out. We get Sweden's book fairway Fred quarter back for 17 years all with the Niners 1970 NL M NFL MVP through 205 touchdowns, a combination of being NFL MVP and winner of PGA Champions

34:59Tour event probably won't happen again while five for two US opens. He was involved in one of the first collusion cases as he was drafted by the old AFF and NFL great guy loved cadding for him. RIP John Brody. Oh, John Brody passed away for those of an older set. Oh, I knew you were talking about. I wonder where where this was going, RIP, the RGB, the social beacon. Hey, Kelly, the windshields will be around nine degrees Saturday and Sunday and your old FSU stomping grass golf effects snow is possible for Tampa. Oh, my goodness, talk about everything, but South Florida is going to be freezing. That is crazy. And I'm glad you put it in the Tallahassee perspective for me because that's cool. You know, remember ever like it was Tallahassee was kind of like here. You weren't getting below 35 40. It was really tough to get too much below that. I remember there were Christmas's like during I remember when the fog bowl was happening with Chicago and Philadelphia, that was like a Christmas time where or at least a winter time where only South Florida was spared the cold, right?

36:00It went like halfway through Florida still as well. This is, let's see here, Frankie fridge. Hi guys, great to see Kelly back. He is the Scotty Pippin of the show. I would like to see if he ever tried Botox for migraines. It has saved me for that from a couple of people. I get the injections every three months. He says Thursday's a must for me crack is so entertaining. Knock him dead, guys. Yeah, crack coming up. Can't wait for that. Can't wait for that Botox Kelly annual. I've heard that one from a few and you'll look younger than ever. It'll be great. Zach Cohen kind of enough to join us once again on the show before we get to Super Bowl 60s. Zach and I were kind of getting into this off air. We were just talking about we're tennis hardhoses drew like so and and here we are. It is another center alchoraz final coming up. Now I know it's kind of middle of the night anyway for the US. So it's it's tough to watch. But let's just say it was a tournament that we could watch during the day. And what I wanted to do is it is I think I brought this up once before center alchoraz one and two in the world. This great rivalry. Is this really good for tennis though? Like do people really as great as they are right the two best tennis players in the world.

37:04Do people really want to sit around and watch a best of five. Final that could last for five hours. It kind of kind of tells me in the end, it's like, I don't know if this is the greatest thing ever for bringing people into the tent. You. Yeah, I think the problem is also just how often we've been seeing it. It's like we waited so long for them to face one another in a final for the first time in a major early last year. And then like it's all we've gotten at every single tournament in ends of center alchoraz. So now we've just seen it so many times that I'm getting a little bit bored of it. I mean, it's never boring. It's it's fun to watch for me. But like I would like to see some new faces in these finals and it just doesn't see like we're going to get me for at least any time soon. Anytime anytime soon doesn't seem like it. And it is one of these things on the tour and it's sort of alluded to, but like I heard interview with Milo surround it shoe for those who don't know is Canadian player, big server. And he was talking about this thing. He goes, you know, for my whole career, I thought he was like, you picked it number three

38:05in the world. It's like for my whole career, I looked up at Rafa Roger and Novak, but I figured, oh, they're going to be old at some point and I'll get my chance. That never happened. And now it's these two young guys. And so yeah, it's never going to end, right? So that's that's been tennis for you right there. All right. Super Bowl 60. Let's start with the side and total. Have you played either of those? Yes. So side and total is really all I have right now. I like the Patriots. I haven't yet taken it. I think that four to half or five would happily take those if I have to. I just kind of want to wait a little bit longer because I know I'm in the minority on the New England side. I think that everybody's going to be looking to take Seattle. I call every single show that people can watch possibly their side to take Seattle. So I'm just kind of thinking that there's a chance. I end up getting the five or five and a half at some point. And the reason I do kind of like the Patriots is because I think this is going to be a somewhat low scoring game. And I think that just having five, five and a half points will be really valuable if

39:07it ends up being that I know that the weather is supposed to be very nice. That's not supposed to be an issue. But I do think that the defenses of this game will end up being kind of the show's dealers. And I also think that overall like for as ugly as things have looked for the Patriots over the course of the playoffs. I do think that the body of work for the entire season is still really strong when looking at least at best numbers. Like I think the EPA, you know, EPA per play still tells the story of a top three team in the league. I know that people have a lot of holes that they can poke with this with this Patriots team. But I just don't think it's quite as bad as people are letting on. What is the so you what about the total? How are you leaning that way under the under I think this is going to be a low scoring game. Yeah. The defenses are going to play well in this one and I think that it's going to end up being somewhat ugly and that's kind of why I think that the points will be the more valuable side when I'm looking at the spread figure that's what you mean. Just want to clarify. Okay. So what's the and MVP market is I mean, so my feeling on the MVP market is it's not

40:08really that exciting either because I think they'd almost have like the game paths for Darnold and or may not to win this seem so remote to me. Is that kind of how you're viewing this or do you think that others are legitimately live? Yeah, I think that it's really tough to get there especially with Darnold just because I'd rather just have Seattle to win I don't know, I don't really love either number. I think that if you're looking for kind of a longer shot here, maybe look at like a Traveey on Henderson for New England, like if they need a spark at some point offensively if they're not really getting anything going, I could see him breaking off a few big runs and kind of you know, winning over the night for the Patriots. But other than that, it's not a market that I'm finding too much value. Okay. And then with props, how do you approach? I understand you don't have any right now, but how do you approach it? Are you looking for something specific that you have in mind? Do you go into it? Open-minded and are like, well, we'll just see what we have here.

41:08How do you attack that? I'm very open-minded. I really do start with the out day. I play our prop projections. Like, I know that that's a little, like we've been talking about these all year with visa.com. But I like to kind of get an idea of where they see the biggest edges. And then I kind of take it from there with my own research. I think, you know, why do they have it there? Is there, you know, something that I can find to kind of back that up? So I'm going to look at that and just kind of see where I should start. But I am kind of thinking like Drake May rushing yards is somewhere that I might be looking just because I do think the Seahawks pass rush is going to get home. And I know that that kind of leads people to think that, yeah, there's going to be a bunch of sacks in this game. But at the same time, there will be some plays where May uses his legs to get away, get out of the pocket, and ultimately has to run and has a lot of green field ahead of him because the pass rushers already buy. And I do think that it's going to kind of lead to a pretty strong game from May on the ground, which we have seen in these last few playoff games as well. I believe our own Kelly Bidlett made that bet. Yep. Well, Drake May rushing yards over. Yep. I like that one. I'm trying to, you know, again, and I'll say this again, I bet the Seahawks, I'm waiting

42:13to see if now there's an additionally nice muted money line part on the Seahawks. Could the Patriots win the football game? Sure. Anything is possible in any one game. But I do think that and this is just a Malcolm Gladwell blank thing. This feels like those 80s and early 90s dominant NFC teams against an AFC team that once the actual Super Bowl happens, you recognize, oh, they're, they're just not the same kind of team in the Patriots again, third, easiest schedule, DVOA history, according to Aaron Schatz's DVOA 16th worst Super Bowl team out of 96 tracked by Aaron Schatz. And the Seahawks are his seventh best team period, right? Since 1978, now you don't have to agree with Aaron Schatz's DVOA stats. I'm sure there's a lot of people listening, who are like, ah, DVOA, SchmeeveoA, when is he ever gotten right about his great teams? But at least you have to, I would assume, take some kernel of wisdom in them that even if you don't believe those extremes, he's talking about that it's somewhere in that area

43:16code. What's the only outcome here that wouldn't surprise you? A Patriots blowout? Yeah. Patriots blowout would definitely surprise me. And I will add this like about New England, like while we all kind of like that dump on them, but we kind of like, you know, put a damper on what we have done this season. They are a little ahead of schedule, like this is almost a little bit early compared to what they're supposed to be in the long run. I think this is a team that will be back here in years to come and it's almost a shock that they are. It's house money for them at this point, but it's just to say like that while we are kind of like downplaying what they've done this season, they are going to be a pretty special team as long as they, you know, are to stay healthy. And I brought this up at the end of the show. I want to say Monday, when you were here, Kelly, but maybe it was Tuesday with Danny, which is, you know, again, the mountain that these teams have to climb now, right? Denver. Now, we'll say in Denver's case, they'll, they'll free up a lot more cap space that they had that they didn't have with Russell Wilson contract still looming over them. So at least they have that. But again, it's not going to get any easier with the schedule.

44:16They skated by, right, really bad teams by only a few points all season long, the Broncos. We just mentioned about the Patriot schedule. You lose here, right? It doesn't like these windows that we think are going to be open for a long time. Oh, Dan Marino, he got to the Super Bowl in a second year. He'll be here many times, never happened again, right? So there is just the pressure on this should not be, I know these guys aren't thinking about that. They're thinking about just this game. But for fan bases and for those of us as better as who are going to make season longs moving forward, just keep all that in mind. That in the same way for Detroit, Detroit wasn't going 15 and two again, Washington wasn't going to win 12 games again, whether they had the injuries or not. For Denver and now for New England, if they don't cash in here, that could be the future. Zack appreciated, man. Thank you so much. Thank you, Zach Cohen, everybody on the show. We'll come back. Yannis. Where's it going next? Next. Where is it going next? Next. Next. Next. Next. Next. Next.

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