A Numbers Game | January 28, 2026 | Hour 2

0:00a number is called the story of those 80s and believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander. Our number two, love a numbers game right here at Vs in these sports betting network, Vs in dot com game, plus I hard radio, YouTube TV, of course, series six of channel 158, Gil Alexander, Danny Higgins in for Kelly Bidlin, who's been suffering from migraines. We hope Kelly is better later today and ready to come back into work tomorrow. No offense to you, Danny, of course, but we just want the man to be healthy. Uh, we'll still become deep dive on the national anthem. Charlie Puth gets the honors this year. I got things to say. Paul Karst anybody to talk Champions League with us. We get tweets of being in the book Jason Stark. Hey, Gil, thanks for the Pagula win was going to take in this move until I saw the ANG trio of you drew in Zach role on Pagula. There you go. Uh, Gammar woke up to check tennis scores. It took a few minutes to process that Musetti tripped on tradingers cat and had to withdraw brutal. Oh my God, it's so true. Uh, New York football, John's 42. I can say with extreme confidence that Musetti

1:01last night will be my worst beat of 2026. Can't see anything topping it. Steve, I agree. For those of us who had him in the quarter, will there be anything worse than that, like a team getting right to the end of, you know, the Super Bowl and then like everybody just that's the thing with an individual sport, right? You don't have teammates to lift you up. It's just you on an island. And that's always the risk you take. Uh, Wigspool, uh, it's a great song. New way by y'all will be on the list, but the kitty is probably first. These are all bad bunny songs everybody. I have recused myself of all bad bunny, uh, props Dan Groschell. I didn't want to come away empty. So I tried to put up a little, uh, sauce on joke or money line, but because the app kept spinning. I ended up betting it at plus due 20 plus two 50 plus three 30 happy accidents. Sometimes work out. I guess that's what makes him a happy accident. Good for you. D Jen Southern Jen after lured Chan was the only American to win a set in the quarterfinals. Can we please use the transitive property to crown him the new top American Blair? It really is the consolation prize by validating those mental gymnastics after that Musetti bad B last night. Yeah. String fellow hawk

2:02tailed your Pagula plays had Musetti plus four and a half games graded no bet. Yeah. That's gonna happen. And Jason ice cold gambler. Uh, last year I jumped off the bridge with you, Gil with the under on the Cleveland Guardians. This year, I'll be taking that walk to the bridge again on the over with the Rangers and the white socks. I believe in you. Oh, and white socks was not me. White socks was as well. Rangers and athletics for me. Those are the two teams. Um, Sarah. Hey, Sarah. I'm tuning in late, but no mention of Bella checks biggest accomplishment, which was, of course, winning a playoff game as head coach of the Browns. Oh, yeah, we didn't mention that. True. Bengals OAL double negative Danny back on set. Danny, they're accusing you of double negatives. Oh, I'm not why. Come on. Jason. Oh, it's right. You're not wise. That's right. Wow. Why it under Jason H 11, just trying to get into the mind of hoops. Gilly, you sure you want to go there? Seems like a dangerous place. Tony Coco basketball analytics is for play has been tears laughing. Brian M. I'm sure Greg sets the record straight in the beginning dates may be cut short to review even America East footage and analyze stats. Shoot him a gamble and the kids call it

3:03Riz these days. Yes, they do. When it comes to a wooing a perspective dating partner. I used to try to embarrass Gracie by doing stuff like that by saying, Hey, Gracie, what do you think about my Riz? She would just die cringe. And Bill Walsh, not that bill wash says, quote, so Greg, what gets your lady going more when you two are flirting over dinner at Texas Roadhouse power ranking the bottom half of the swag. We're explaining why the silk attorney is going to be more exciting than the Ohio valleys and on and on with the tweets. We will get to it. Oh, usually I will go to breaking news before I read tweets. I don't know how breaking this is at this point because we have reached the stage where it's like, okay, remaining NFL teams with head coaching vacancies. You're going to get who you're going to get. And there were some thoughts with the Cleveland Browns that whoever took the head coaching job, the condition was, yeah, but Jim Schwartz is going to be your hat is going to have to be your defensive coordinator. You have to come in with that. That's that's allegedly what was going on. Well, the Browns have made their move per Adam Schefter at ESPN. The Cleveland Browns are hiring former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Munkin as their next head coach. Daddy, you're a Ravens fan. What's your review of this hiring? I mean, looking at it,

4:09like I said, I was looking at I was doing because we're going to go over some coaching they can see is later real. So one of the odds I was doing this morning was for the Browns. And he was the favorite, yet a lay a doubt 105 for him. And then Jim Schwartz was second with Nathan Shieldhouse and everyone else was longer shots. I think with this hiring, he was there back in 2019 is our offensive coordinator. So I believe with this and with that organization, how all the talk coming out of there was they want to keep Jim Schwartz. This is a way to keep Jim Schwartz bringing in a veteran coach that's going to run the offense and hopefully try to get that running game going with those two, you know, going to be second year backs. Hopefully junkens come back healthy, but getting that going and still keeping that defense in tack with Jim Schwartz there. Yeah. Todd Munkin, new head coach, Cleveland Browns, Todd Munkin, who has Danny mentioned most recently, the offensive coordinator of the Ravens, Georgia before that, the Cleveland Browns, these Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator before that tab of a Buccaneers OC before that,

5:09only places been a head coach Southern miss back in the mid portion of the last decade. So there you go. Arizona and the Raiders, you're on the clock. Oh boy. Only two vacancies left. Paul Carr joins us now, ladies gentlemen. I will not ask some similar questions that I asked of Greg Peterson. He could be found on Twitter at Paul Carr, C-A-R-R. He comes to us courtesy of the progressive guest line. He works over a true media network spreading analytics throughout the land. How you doing, Paul? I'm good. Gil. I get a kick out of the Browns. Placing, you know, restrictions on people taking the jobs. Yeah, we got to do these things. It's the Browns way after all. Let's go. That's right. If you're going to come here, you got to get here to our conditions because we're high standards. We're that awesome of an organization. All right. Uh, champions league. Where do, uh, let's just, we throw up the futures board right here. Arsenal plus 370 buyer and Munich from Bundesliga plus 450 PSG at plus 750 along with Man City. These look about right to you. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's always a little funny. You see Barcelona

6:09around Madrid down 5th and 6th, but it's kind of where they've been this year. So if you're looking to take a flyer, uh, Barcelona is probably where I'd actually have a Barcelona future from before the season at 7 or 800. So they have the upside, but there's just kind of the same questions about them. Attack really good defense. Maybe not so much. So can they make another run? And then it's absolutely possible. But if I have to take a flyer, that's where I would go. Okay. Refresh our memories, if you will. Uh, let's, uh, I will represent the, the somewhat casual American sports fan when it comes to the champions league. Where do we stand now in the arc of this format? Yep. And this is only the second year in this new format. So it's worth a refresher. Even for me, I got to kind of readjust from, you know, decades of the previous format. So 136 team group is what they do for this group stage, the league phase as they call it now. This is the eighth of eighth, eighth match day. So the final group match day, uh, the top 24 teams advance, but only the top eight get a buy to the round of 16. The others all have to play in the

7:13playoff round essentially. So there's two tiers really of the most motivation. You want to get top eight. So you can get a buy. You want to make the top 24 obviously so you can advance. And everyone but four teams is still alive and only two teams have locked up a top eight spot. So there's a lot of pots, abilities and permutations on this final day. And this is a new format for this year, correct? Uh, last year with last year was the first one. So it was the second time. So we still don't have, you know, tons of history. So there is a, it's a bit of a guessing game trying to figure out how teams are going to attack these incentives. Obviously things can change over the course of the day. All these games are simultaneous. So, you know, three other games aren't going your way. Maybe you suddenly don't have a chance to move up or down or whatever it might be. So there's still a lot up the air and it is a bit of a guessing game on this final day, even though you know the initial incentives. Oh, on the eighth of the eighth leg, they're all concurrent. Everybody plays the same time. Got you. Correct. So there are 18 games going all at once. So it's a little crazy. Okay. Uh, all three of balls, three pack plays, therefore, are all at the same time today. Let's begin with, let's go Madrid and Buddha glimped. Was that Norwegian?

8:19You have a total. Yeah. Yeah. We're going over three and a half minus 135. I'll say, Champions League prices shift a ton in the 12 hours before. These are all available last night. They may have shifted either way since then. So just be aware of that in general. Over three and a half minus 135. So athletic goes in 12th place. So they need to win probably by multiple goals to have a shot at the top eight. Uh, Boto glimps in 28th place. They have to win to advance, but that's not very likely here. Their defense has been among the worst in Champions League. Uh, six of their seven games have had four plus goals. They've conceded two goals a game and they expect the goals are close to three goals per game. Uh, they've been okay on the counter. And athletic goes just scored well at home this season. Three plus goals and seven of 13 games. Most of those games against teams, you know, better than Boto glimped. So athletic go not known for their attack, but the fact that they need to win need to win by multiple goals. And, you know, Boto could hit them on the counter for one or even two. Uh, kind of like the dead against man city last week. So over three and a half goals minus 135 here. I may have to

9:20tell you on some of these Paul's going to be a, it's going to be an empty afternoon. So maybe there we go. Maybe I'll join you on these athletic on Madrid. Boto glimped over three and a half goals at minus 135. I see your Norwegian side. I raise you an Azerbaijan side. Uh, Karabag against Liverpool. What do you have here? This is an independent of the handicap. Both teams to score when you have a massive favorite and a massive underdog is I think one of the most fun plays to have in soccer because you're just rooting for that. It's kind of like, you know, you bet a 15 seeded in the incidental tournament, except, you know, it's like betting them first to 10 points or something, where you're just rooting for them to do something. So I have both teams to score here at plus one 15, uh, to set the scenarios. Liverpool's in fourth place. They're going to score at home. They have an all but three home games this season, but a couple of their centerbacks are out. So someone's probably playing out a position on the back line. So that's not as strong as it would be. Uh, Karabag's in 18th. They're probably going through regardless, but it wouldn't hurt for them to get a goal just to not lose by as much. And they've scored in six of seven games this

10:24season in Champions League. They scored against Chelsea twice, scored athletic at Benfica, had chances against Napoli, rested all their starters this weekend. So I think they can both get a goal here. I got it at one 15. Okay. Both teams to score the old BTTS. Liverpool and Karabag there. And then, uh, Barcelona and Copenhagen, what do you got? Laying the two and a half of Barcelona, Barcelona's in ninth place and only on goal difference. So to guarantee a top eight spot, they need to win almost certainly and win by a lot. And they're probably going to get that by. They've scored three and eight of their 13 home games this season, one five of those by three plus again, mostly against better teams than Copenhagen. Copenhagen's got a shot to advance. They probably need to win. So there's a chance they, you know, go forward, especially if they give up a goal. There's they have nothing to lose. They might as well give it a try. But this feels like a three and no four one type of game for Barcelona. Copenhagen might hang on for a little while, but I think Barcelona will eventually break through that damn and win by a lot. All right. Let's go Madrid, Boto Glimpt, over three and a half goals. Liverpool, Karabag, both teams to score. And Barcelona, Barcelona for those listening in Castellano versus Copenhagen,

11:32Barcelona laying them two and a half goals versus Copenhagen. Paul, thanks for taking us around the globe, man. We appreciate you bet. It's going to be a little bit chaos, but it's fun to think a little bit chaos, but we like it in the Champions League Paul car everybody at Paul car on Twitter, national anthem talk and more next on a numbers game. You're here because you want an edge. That's what separates listeners from winners. But let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bets home pros win because they've got the tools, the data and the discipline. And now so can you be some programs you access to the same real time insights the sharps use, no secrets, no fluff, just actionable info that moves markets tap the link and see why serious bettors are turning knowledge into profit with visa and pro. Number of games on FESET, these scores betting network get ready to win a larger than life world soccer championship experience only at circle resort, casino and Las Vegas. And by world soccer

12:37championship, Danny, I mean the global goblet, you know what I mean. Well, lucky winner scores at two nights day of circa VIP cabana for the games of stadium swim with $500 and credit, plus $250 in food and beverage, arriving style with limo transportation and celebrate with cocktails and legacy club. And are now and kick off the world soccer championship at circle resort, casino, forgive away details, visit circle Las Vegas dot com Gill Alexander Danny Higgins hanging out with us for another day in for the ailing Kelly Bidlin. We get tweet speed in the book, Jesse Welch. Damn, wish I had known that the numbers game injury reports work just like the NBA Kelly was listed as questionable yesterday, not even doubtful. Hope you feel better soon, Kelly. That's true. We totally faked out everybody with the questionable. You're right, Jesse trip temper top five record scratch moment for a numbers game asking Greg about four play had me spilling coffee on my laptop falling out of my chair with laughter elite line of questioning. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Pat Monteforte. It was a Monteforte or Monteforte. I don't

13:37know. He says, I'm following you and will on the Rangers. Oh, he following me and will on the Rangers 81 and a half and 75 and a half. Was that mean that you did an alt as well in there 81 and a half and 70 have 75 and a half. Maybe he meant the a's also in there. A Jakob Ellis at wapisi capital Kelly's gone for a few days and next thing you know, we're talking about Greg's four play tactics. Keep up the good work. You're very, very, very welcome. My pleasure. BP futures bet Eagles fan here. So I'm not sucking up. But how many titles with Joe Jackson Gibbs have won if he knew the plays that his opponents were going to run. I'm glad they're sticking it to Bella, Bella cheater. So there is again, there is that opinion, right? Thank you. By the way, for the shout out on Joe Jackson Gibbs, very good knowledge of his full name there. Only the greats get the full name treatment. Um, yeah, look, that that's the thing, right? Spygate. They're alleged to have known the plays. And so there you go, deflate gate, they're alleged to have deflated the balls and they got punish for

14:41both. And so yeah, some people are like, well, I'm going to, I'm going to make an example of it. Okay. I mean, great. Your morality is one thing. But to take it to the extent that you would then do the disservice to the guy of not allowing him to have this distinct honor is just a certain level of petty that I will never understand. Like the fact that you can't remove your feeling from what the guy actually did on the field itself. And again, I'm the first person to say, I'm not as nuts about this because I do think there are some coaching precedents that don't make this as crazy as some other people do, but they all should be in. They all should be in. And Bill Belichick should absolutely be in it on the first ballot as Vince Lombardi should have been as Joe Gibbs should have been. Um, but there's, I mean, that's a, listen, what future's better saying is an opinion shared by many, but I'm curious if future's better, if you were one of the

15:41Hall of Fame voters, would you have taken your opinion and prevented him from getting in on the first ballot? That's the difference, right? Would you have gone that far? Maybe you would have, I don't know. We just mentioned that the Cleveland Browns have hired Todd Munkin as their new head coach, which I'm sure has the people in Cleveland excited to just absolutely excited. I can't wait to hear Jensen's take on it later. Yeah, because it's a big bronze fan. See what Adam Berk has to say about her too. Yeah. So here are the jobs filled. Once again, there's the, uh, the eight jobs filled of the 10 vacancies that were that were there on the left. It's the Fancy the Falcons, Mentor to the Ravens, Halfway to the Dolphins, John Harbaugh to the Giants, Mike McCarthy, still the most shocking to me to the Steelers, solid to the Titans Brady, Joe Brady, yesterday here on the show to the bills and how Todd Munkin on the show to Nate of the Browns, which leaves the Cardinals and the Raiders. Boy, Cardinals. I mean, I don't know why I feel worse about them, the Raiders, they're both, it's, it's bad in both, but Raiders appear to be waiting for Kubiak. Yes. That's what it feels like. You have odds for both of these. Yes. Uh,

16:44so Kubiak, uh, currently this morning is off Calci. Um, Clint Kubiak is, yes, minus 204. No, plus 177 Davis Web is second at, uh, plus 488. This is for the Raiders. This is for the Raiders. Yes. For Raiders, uh, next size coach odds off Calci. And then Mike LaFour is actually coming in third at just under, uh, 16 to one. Okay. What is it for the Cardinals? Is it is Vance Joseph for the favorite for the Cardinals? No, he is second. I want to see, I want to see you take another guess. I'll see you first. Oh, uh, wait, I do know this. It's not Vance Joseph. I'll know it as soon as you say it. Who is it? Mike LaFour. Oh, no, I wouldn't have guessed that. Mike LaFour is the favorite. Okay. One of this is the first time I've seen this up there. Third odds for, um, the Cardinals. Hey, next coach odds, Ron Rivera, nine to one. Oh, stop. Riverboat, Ron. What are we doing? No. What are we doing? Like, could you, is there a less inspired choices from a Washington

17:45fan? Is there a less inspired choice than Ron Rivera will be? Oh, Rahim Morris was who I thought you were going to say it was the first Rahim Morris is fourth on that list at 13 on Clint Kubiak, who is the favorite to be the Raiders head coach 24 or one Clint Kubiak, given the choice, ain't going to go to Arizona. So that's the thing is is as bad as the Raiders aren't there is something sadder about the Cardinals job. I don't know why that is because it's not even a brand name, right? So there's that. Wow. There's the Raiders list again. Nathan Sheelhouse also on the Raiders list. Didn't Sheelhouse turn down a job already, too? He's like, yeah, I'm good. Uh, wasn't the Browns. How about the Jaguars coordinators, right? Odinski said to turn down the Browns, he took the offensive coordinator job back with the Jaguar. Yes. It's on the deal. So I saw when I was looking these up in Typing Mobile last night and then updating the odds this morning, who Dinsky was, uh, wherever's he at? He was on the Cardinals until he pulled his name out. He was, uh, tied for a second for Cardinals. So, wow. All right. So I'm not going to talk about

18:47halftime because again, I'm bad money. Yeah. I'm not your guy. Sorry. I'll let you all down. But pull National Anthem. Charlie Puth is singing the National Anthem. Now for those who don't know who Charlie Puth is, um, Charlie Puth is a, uh, multi Grammy award. When I think he has multi Grammy's, maybe I'm just making that up. But he is a huge hit maker, young guy, um, who is a musical savant. He's one of these guys that, um, he sees, not only does he see music in color, right? One of these savants. But if you like right now, Danny, if I, if I hit the desk or let's say you just, you know, you, uh, you hit your keyboard. Charlie Puth is one of these guys who he says, oh, uh, B flat. And then he can, and if you do two sounds, he'll be like, oh, B flat, uh, C B flat, that's a C major chord, if I add this and the like, so he's just this amazing guy when it comes to music. And he can create songs. He actually has hit records based on someone shutting a door.

19:51Wow. Like from that, he'll go on Jimmy Fallon. He'll just come up with songs. So he's got this amazing musical mind. He's got tons of hits, uh, attention. Do you know that song? That's a maybe as big as hit. I'm gonna be honest. I'm not the best with song names. So if I heard it, I probably wouldn't know it. You know it. You probably know it. Yes. Darnel, you know that one, right? Jam. Darnel knows that one. Jam, by the way, he's just, just incredible songs from, uh, from Charlie Puth, by the way, he often goes on Howard Stern and does a whole bunch of songs there. But, um, yeah, light switch was the one that he did off just like a door shutting. You made a whole hit out of that. That's awesome. Um, one call away. People would know Marvin Gaye is the name of one of his songs. Also, he did a song titled Marvin Gaye lipstick. Anyway, point is he's doing the national anthem. And there is no footage of Charlie Puth ever singing the national anthem. But yours truly went on the old Charlie Puth deep dive last night to treat you. See if I could glean some intel about what Charlie's thinking about with a national anthem. And I have some quotes.

20:53You like to hear them? Yes. Here they go. Charlie Puth, quote, I'm going to put a lot of jazz into it. I kind of heard the whole arrangement in my head. And we'll see if it, and we'll see if what's happening in my head actually happens. He also describes the star spangled banner as quote, the hardest song ever written, noting its preposterous three octave range. You knew that, Danny. Quote, I just want to show people that I can do it. I feel like people don't really think of me as a standalone vocalist at times. It'll be pressure the week leading up to it. And the hour leading up to it, he says, but once I'm there, it's going to feel so comfortable. And it's going to sound so good. Now he takes as his national anthem inspiration Whitney Houston's amazing rendition before Super Bowl 25 right is the Gulf War had broken out. Um, Whitney Houston, for me, the second greatest national anthem all the time. I leaned towards Marvin Gaye in 1983, 1983 NBA all star game, but that's just me. Charlie Puth loves the Whitney Houston version.

21:54Whitney Houston was just shy of two minutes when she did it just for, you know, comparison sake. But one of the other things that Charlie Puth also mentioned in addition to him wanting to jazz it up and that he's already got the whole arrangement in his head is that involved as well will be an orchestra in his national anthem and and here's the real point for all of this. This is the one that drove it home for me acquire. Oh, there's also going to be a choir. Now remember, this is going to be graded. These are available. By the way, if you're wondering where is this available, a wager on the internet is a place where it's available. You just want to point that out. Um, this is graded from a first note that he sings to the last, right? So it's not the musical interlude. The beginning is not going to matter. But once he starts to the end, that's how it's graded. And if a choir is involved and he wants to jazz it up, my recommendation is over 122 seconds over two minutes and two seconds. Charlie Puth's national anthem. It's in his head. He's

22:57got the arrangement. He's jazzed it up and there's a choir and an orchestra. He's not trying to do this in a speedy fashion. Over 122, your Super Bowl national anthem recommendation. Take your time, Charlie. Let him marinate. Coming back on a Numbers Game with Nick Whale next. Numbers Game on FESEN. These sports Betty Network Numbers Game live from Circa Resort, Casino downtown Las Vegas, Gil Alexander, Danny Higgins, in for Kelly Bentley on this Wednesday, Jeff Levine on Twitter, Iga, I want to modify a valuation of Iga going forward from just her relative numbers to that plus the fear in her eyes, not just frustration. He says when things turn bad, she's had zero good karma recently. No fight just flight. First of all, how dare you say this about the six time Grand Slam winner who was going for her career slam yesterday? I would actually say that she just got beat yesterday. I actually wasn't, you know, to me, she was just not the

24:00better player. Rebokina went on with the serve and she was with the serve. We'll get a lot of free points and yeah, no, I'm not going to say you're completely wrong about that look in Iga's eyes because I know what you're talking about. But let's put a little more spet on her name, you know what I mean? James Fessler on his Numbers Game punch card. How many more fillings does Danny Higgins need before he becomes producer number RG3? That's great. Great use of what we were talking about last week. RG3 who wore the number 10 for the Washington Redskins. The next producer will be producer RG3. That's right. I produce a number RG3 3 Jack H3131 Gill maybe whoops Petersen needs to revisit some old Vegas lifestyle podcasts for tips and tricks from Ace. Grab a goolette plus 180 this morning after I wiped away my moussetty tears. The number feels disrespectful. Yeah, it is disrespectful. And again, I'm trying to sort of be light about the moussetty thing because if you

25:01don't laugh, you do you cry. That's just the worst thing that could. I was really that's how we lose I said as it was happening. I'm like, is this how we're going to lose this on an injury one set away from winning the quarter? A brown data juggerland. I'm so glad you included a quick side note about all time anthem rankings. Marvin at the 83 NBA All Star game is the greatest rendition of all time in a landslide. The definitive historical moment that defined cool a brown down in jungle and I am with you as great as Whitney Houston's was and no one can deny Whitney Houston's voice as the greatest of all time and her rendition was spectacular. It's goose bumps and a goose bump inducing. But Marvin Gaye putting on the drum machine and doing it Marvin Gaye style 1983 NBA All Star game. Spectacular. My dad hated when people messed around with the anthem when they put their spin on it. You know, what is he doing? Dusting the anthem. I thought I was spectacular. I'm with you down in jungle land. Nick Whalen joins us now, ladies and gentlemen. He is part of the roto wire crew. He's a senior writer over there and has been kind enough to join us all football season.

26:04And along with our buddy Jeff Erickson is about to resume their co-hosting of of the show that follows. Well, it doesn't follow us follow his money moves. No, it follows us. It follows us. Okay, right. Instead of prop points or prop points will be instead of the John Hansen version, it will go to Nick Whalen and Jeff Erickson. Nick, I asked this of Jeff Erickson last week or two weeks ago. I'll ask this of you. A peaceful transfer of power. Yes. Yeah, I would say so. It's certainly not hostile. I think hosting the show during the late or kind of spring through the summer. Cater is a little bit more toward our expertise. I'm a big NBA guy. Jeff, of course, is a huge baseball guy. Hansen mostly focuses on football. So yeah, I would say it's been a peaceful transfer of power heading into year two. I like how you answer that literally as if there was a struggle for coup d'etat was not necessary is what you're saying. No, no coups. Unfortunately, you were you were just on with Ed Lowe on draft Kings talking about

27:06NBA. Can we can we get some highlights from that as well? I know you're you love the association. Let's start with some of your bets that you're thinking about tonight or beyond. Yeah, we got a fun slate tonight. I feel like we've had a lot of like smaller slates over the last few weeks, but we got nine games tonight. So a few that I like here, we got Lakers Caves in Cleveland. And the expectation as of now is that we see both LeBron and Luca out there for the Lakers. They're still without Austin Reeves, but two big injuries on the cab side of things. No Darius Garland and now no Evan Mobile, who I think is going to be out through the all-star break with a calf strain. So if you look at some of the on-off data at Rotawire, when when Garland and Mobile are off the court, Donovan Mitchell sees about a seven and a half percentage point jump in usage. He averages 10.6 more points, six and a half more field goal attempts, three and a half, more free throw attempts, and three point three more three point attempts per 36 minutes. So there should be a huge spot for him. His points prop last I checked. I think it's all the way up at 32 and a half. Jared Allen should also get a bump. He sees about a seven percent usage rate jump

28:09without Mobile on the court, specifically brings in about two more rebounds and about five more free throw attempts per 36, which is interesting. But I think a sneaky props bot in this game, guys, is Jalen Tyson over 16 and a half points. He's already averaging over this number in his last 10 games with Evan Mobile on the court. I think he's one of those secondary options, who they'll turn to in this game. Lakers continue to be terrible defense. I know they got to win over the bulls the other night. They are 25th, excuse me, in defense of rating over their last 10 games. Caps are about five points per 100 worse on defense with Evan Mobile. So I think this could be a higher scoring game. And I do lean toward the Lakers getting points here on the road. I know they're a very difficult team to trust. But Caps are an NBA worst eight in 19, ATS at home this season. Okay, but the official play is on the total. I like I like the Jalen Tyson prop the most. I don't have a six and a half points. And then yeah, if you over 235 and a half and then Lakers plus two and a half is what I like in that game. Okay. Um, all right. What else do you like nine games total? What else do you like?

29:13Yeah, Hawk Celtics is another one that caught my attention. I would lean over in this game as well. Total sitting at 230 and a half. We have an interesting contrast in terms of pace. Yeah, I like to look at the last 10 games to try to gain kind of a clearer sample. And Boston is playing at the second slowest pace in that time. Atlanta is playing at the second fastest pace. So I think we settle probably somewhere in the middle. Last meeting between these teams a week and a half ago, Boston put up 82 points in the first half. These, these teams combined for 98 three point attempts in that game. And Boston could be without its starting center. And, and Nima is Cata. He is doubtful right now. Luca Garza is also on the injury report. So I think that does open things up. Perhaps for Annika Kung-Boo on the Atlanta side of things like the over 15 and a half points there went for 21 points on 14 shots in the last meeting. He's taking about seven threes per game over the last 10 and both the Hawks and the Celtics are allowing a ton of threes every single night. So of course, it's always a matter of how many of those are actually going down. But I think we

30:15could see a back and forth higher scoring game there. And then you have to like Sam Hauser over two and a half threes given what I just talked about averaging close to four makes per game in January. And the Hawks specifically give up a ton of catch and shoot threes, which is what Sam Hauser does. 27 catch and shoot three point attempts per game given up by that Hawks defense. All right, this kind of analysis and props that you can expect from Nick and Jeff Erickson once their version of prop points begins on February 10th. Let me just ask you this, Boston Celtics, they're going to be the Eastern Conference Representative in the NBA finals in your opinion. I think there's a reasonable chance. I really do. And we're seeing those those odds start to drop, you know, Celtics to win the finals, Celtics to win the East. I did a little video for our site earlier this week about that. You know, they were plus four 25 at that point, I believe, to win the Eastern Conference. And look, no disrespect to the Detroit Pistons. They're sitting at 34 and 11 right now. They're clearly the best team in the East. Boston with Jason Tatumback, I don't think they're overly scared of the Detroit Pistons. You know, a team that that still has

31:15plenty of holes offensively and defensively for that matter. They got to figure out what they're doing with Jay Nivey. They need to figure out if they should upgrade at the deadline. Not enough shooting to me on that Detroit roster. You know, it comes down to what version of Jason Tatum are you getting? But to me, even if you get 80% of peak Jason Tatum was the top five player in the NBA, that's a massive addition. That might be the biggest addition that any of these Eastern Conference contenders gets when we get past the deadline. And I feel the need to also follow up on the thunder because we, you know, when they were going crazy to be any of the year, we had a lot of people saying they were going to, you know, a lot of people were betting at least on them, breaking the record to 73 and nine from the Warriors. It gets 74 wins. Now, I mean, look, that's not going to, that's already done that that's not going to happen. But then it was like, oh, well, at least the win 70. Yeah, that's probably not going to happen either. Are we sure they're going to see their season win total, which I believe was 62 and a half if I'm not mistaken. I wouldn't be sure. No, I, you know, I actually preseason was leaning under on that, which looked horrible, of course, like the first month and a half of the season. But I, you know, I thought

32:19there was a case that OKC wouldn't be pushing as hard this season as maybe we wanted them to. You know, I know they are a younger team. They're a deep team. So it's not like they're overextending like two or three guys every single night to push for the record. But now that the record's off the table, I just, you know, I think they're priority like a lot of teams that win the title, you know, that following season, you typically don't see them turn around and then put up an even better regular season. You know, they're starting to try to peak in in April and May and June as opposed to January and February and, you know, the thing that's happening with OKC now is like SGA is out there just about every night. But they have two, three, four role players out. It feels like every single game like missing Isaiah Hardstein for the last few weeks has been brutal for them. They're the worst rebounding team in the NBA since he went down. Caruso's missed a ton of time. Jalen Williams is out indefinitely. We probably don't see him until after the all-star break. So, you know, with that chase for the record now off the table, I don't really see an impetus for for OKC to, you know, be stepping on the gas every single night. I mean, we've seen this team just be brutal against the spread against these big numbers. They failed to cover again last night

33:23against the Pelicans. I believe that's now eight of their last nine games as a double digit favorite. They have not covered. Can we squeeze in one more prop in a certain NBA game before we go to break here? What else you got? I will say I like the Hornets tonight. Just a big mismatch with how the Hornets are playing right now. Number one in offense. Number five in defense plus 13.7 net rating on the road against the Grizzly steam. That is not very good. And I do think this could be a raptor spot tonight. Go at home against the nicks. I know they're coming off a long West Coast road trip, but they have not played since Sunday. It's the second night of a back-to-back for the New York Knicks who have been the worst road cover team in the NBA and they are two and four ATS on back to back to see. Well, that's interesting. I got some random text from somebody I really get a text from. I like that. The raptors only two-point favorite store. So that's a thing for short. More in Nick Whalen on the other side, including Super Bowl 60 right here on a numbers game at Vincent. Prove.

34:26Numbers game on Vincent. These sports betting network. Don't forget about the sharp plays. You can scan the QR code on your screen for more unmatched transparency with records updated daily. AI betting analysis real-time global betting info alerts directly from the pros. We invite you to check them out. Sharp plays dot com. We get sweets being a book. Y'all are the best. Seriously. This is from Drew since 1985. That's what it goes by. As long as Charlie Puth's jazz rendition is nothing like Fergie's NBA all-star game of rendition, we should be good. I can't remember that. Was she bad in short? Well, I can't remember her version. It was it was Pant Fergie. Oh, I don't remember that version. Danny is not the music college. No, I'm lucky for the show. No, the RGB, the social beacon says, Gill had Pagula over half a set parlay with Musetti over half a set over half a set for an. I don't know. I was writing here. Maybe he means over. Yeah, over half a set. I guess I don't know what I don't know exactly where the parlay is, but essentially says

35:29for a nice winner before the cat died. Now that the national anthem play is in, we can get the fly over lock in a grapple game update from Jason. Oh, the flyover lock. Yeah, Jason Wynghorn used to come on this show. He had like contacts in the Pentagon. Oh, and he and he would tell us some they would put up props. How many F 16s are going to fly over the Super Bowl? And they'd put a number on it. And Jason would come on in here and be like, Oh, I know for a fact from my contact at the pen, at the Pentagon. That's going to be over three and a half. We'll work on that. We'll see if we get Jason over that Ryan Hyatt at Ryan Hyatt media. I'm with Gill. I'm with Gill's dad when it comes to singing the national anthem. There's no extended dance version. Sing it where folks can sing along with you. Gill's dad was very wise, other than that whole stop sign thing. Great show today. Thank you. Yes. So little is a little loose with the stop signs. A stick, Cardano, Bill Parcells would have long since been lost to history. If not for Bella check. Wow. We'll always know he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. I guess that's all that counts. Yeah, Ace again, for those who missed the beginning of the show, I was talking about this. Just the, the the pettiness of humans has no bounds.

36:36No, we are Hall of Fame voters. We will determine if you are worthy of first ballot status. And again, it's not just Bill Polion. It's at least 11 of the 50, at least 11 of them were like, yeah, the other thing the other reports from Seth Wickersham and Don Venata, who did the great job on this is that it was sort of brought up to have a Zoom meeting beforehand. It was sort of brought up right that deflate gate and spy gate was brought up briefly. And it was quickly sort of they quickly moved on from it. So yes, it was brought up, but there was no real lengthy banter about it. So people, by the way, each voter, they don't know what the other voters are voting. So according to this voter that was interviewed, he was like, there was no indication that that was going to be a thing. We all just sort of assumed that he would get in. And then you fucked out that 11 of the 50, at least 11 said, no, not on the first bill. Bobby Getty's still can't get over that tennis man had the seven or one for Mousetti quarter did a quasi hedge bet on

37:40Mousetti wins set one Joker wins match. First bet loses second bet gets void and unbelievable. Oh, anyways, let's go 74th best DVOA Super Bowl team. It's not 74th best. It's a 81st out of 96. As far back as as Aaron Schatz goes 81st out of 96, talk about the New England Patriots. Speaking of which, ladies and gentlemen, Nick Whalen kind enough to join us for a second segment to talk Super Bowl 60 with us. Nick, thanks for staying on. Nick comes to us from road wire. By the way, you can follow Nick on Twitter at Whalen, just replace the L with a number one. What about Super Bowl 60, man? Did you did you make a bet yet on side or total? Let's start there. Nothing officially placed on the side or the total yet. I am interested to see if we get more movement, you know, as we get closer to next Sunday, you know, if you look at the splits over at Vison.com, still a lot of money coming in on Seattle, which, which is understandable to me. Yeah,

38:42I think they are going to end up being the heavy public side. I think people are going to look at how these last two games played out for the Seahawks where they put 41 on San Francisco. They blow the doors off them and then they outscore the Rams at this crazy back and forth game. Whereas the narrative for New England is what you just said, right? People talking about, man, this is one of the most unlikely kind of worst feeling Super Bowl teams we've had in a while. Every game was ugly on the path to the Super Bowl. But I actually respect the path that New England has gone through. Now they were very, very fortunate to face Jared Stidham. They were very, very fortunate to face whatever that version of CJ Stroud was in the divisional round. But, you know, they've already gone through three of the best defenses, three top 10 defenses by DVOA in the AFC playoffs. And now you're getting the number one defense by DVOA. So I know it's been ugly offensively for New England, but I don't think there's a team in the NFL that was going to move the ball effectively in the second half against Denver. Given that defense and given the conditions, they were playing in snow in the second half against Houston as well. So there are factors we could point to. I think

39:43for why this offense has been disappointing. But I am curious, you know, if this game, if Seattle comes out hot in the Super Bowl, let's say there are 10 nothing, you know, eight minutes into the game. How does New England respond? Because there have not been many spots given their schedule this season. So they've had to bounce back from early adversity. I think you have to go all the way back to the Cincinnati game in the middle of the season where they gave up a few goal early Drake Bay through a pick six. And it was 10 nothing. And of course they rallied back in one because it's the Cincinnati Bengals and they didn't have Joe burrow. But prior to that, you got to go all the way back to week one and week three. Those were against the the Raiders and the Steelers respectively, to find the last time that they trailed by two scores at any point, which I think is a likely outcome at some point over the four quarters. So one one thing that I have played, Gil early on is the over 31 and a half pass attempts for Drake Bay. I don't think this is a spot unlike the the previous three games where New England can really lean on the run. I don't think they'll run it all that effectively on Seattle. It's not going to be another 25 carry game by any means for Ramondra Stevenson. I think it has to be a much, much higher volume game for Drake Bay to hang

40:45around with the Seattle team. And based on the game script, you just outlined that would play into the passing attempts on that as well. This feels to me. And again, listen, wasn't a good NFL season for me. Let me just say that advance. So I've been wrong before. But this does have 1980s, early 90s vibes to me that if if Seahawks play their A game, this feels like Washington against Denver Buffalo or the Giants against Denver Buffalo or the Giants Buffalo wasn't so wasn't so dominant. But the the Cowboys against either those Cowboys against Buffalo San Francisco against either against Denver just blowing them out. You get the idea where the NFC was just so dominant back in the day. It feels that way to me, but we shall see time. We'll tell besides that prop. What else did you bet so far? Yeah, well, first of all, I'm with you. Like if you asked me like which of these teams wins and a blowout, I think it's pretty obviously Seattle. And you think back to the last time they won the Super Bowl, right? Going up against that Denver team that was light in the league on

41:46fire. And that that game fell over by the end of the first quarter. I don't think we'll see that kind of result again, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility with the Seattle defense. Ramadrey Stevenson over two and a half receptions was another early play for me. I've been just kind of riding that late in the season. I think there's this idea that Trevi on Henderson is the past catching back. When in reality, you know, the games that have mattered most this season, they have leaned heavily on on Ramadrey Stevenson really more than they did at any point during the regular season. I think he's officially out of the mini doghouse from those fumble issues early in the year. Henderson played only four snaps in that game against Denver where they were going run heavy for basically four full quarters. So I think this is another spot where they get Stevenson involved in the passing game. I people just don't think Ramadrey Stevenson is a pass catcher. Maybe because he wears number 38, which is not a pass catching number. You know, he looks like this big bruising between the tackles back, but he's actually been a really good pass catcher throughout his career. And then one early play for me on the Seattle side guys was Cooper Cub over two and a half receptions. It's got 11 targets over these last two postseason games. You know, I think we thought

42:51Rashid Shaheed would end up, you know, intruding on his targets a bit more than he has. You know, he had the one deep all down the sideline early in that game last week, but Shaheed has not really been a volume guy whatsoever. They mix in a few of those tight ends, but I think I game like this, you know, the postseason certainly the Super Bowl. Like this is the reason you got Cooper Cub, right? We saw them go to him for that key conversion to basically seal up the game last week against the Rams. And yeah, I don't see this being like a five or six catch game necessarily for Cooper Cub, but can you get to three or four? I think absolutely. And what's the, let's do it the other way. What's the, what's the script? We're New England wins this. I guess darn old has a darn old moment, right? Or two, the Seahawks running game can't penetrate the the Patriots run defense. And then the Patriots somehow cobbled together a win as they have here and, you know, right? If not in recent history, but for most of the year, I guess that's it, right? Yeah, I think it's the darn old implosion, right? And like if you're Seattle, you feel I think significantly better

43:51about handing this game to to Sam Darnold than you did four days ago, right? Like that was a huge question for me going in was if this turns into a darn old versus staffer duel, I'm going to decide with Matthew Stafford. And that's kind of what it turned into, you know, Seattle was able to run it fairly well. The final production, I thought for Kenneth Walker didn't really match up with how well it felt like he was running the ball in that game. But Darnold was, it was excellent. I thought it was easily the best big game of his career. I mean, every other big game for him has been a disaster. So I think you have some confidence that you can avoid that scenario, but it's still going to be there deep down. You know, I think there's still going to be skepticism of Sam Darnold. And I think the other key for New England is to just keep playing as well as they have defensively. Again, they've run into some bad quarterbacks. They've run into some bad offenses. The conditions have helped. We could talk about them scoring 54 points on their way to the Super Bowl, but they've allowed 26, you know, I mean that the defensive numbers on the course of the season say that they're not nearly as good as Seattle. But in these playoffs, I mean, New England has been lights out defensively. That they have Nick Whalen. Nick always a pleasure. Prop points with Jeff Erickson and Nick Whalen.

44:53Their version after the John Hansen version begins on February 10th. We all look forward to it. Thank you, Nick. Any time, guys, thank you, Nick Whalen, everybody. Senior writer over at Roto Wire. I will come back Warren Sharp on Super Bowl 60, Tadewish Neve as well. Numbers, Game Beast, and these sports, Betty Network.